As a former ref myself, i see all the fouls taking place. My question is, why the heck is this ref (if you want to call him that); not blowing the whistle? It's like he is waiting for someone to get seriously hurt.
I'm laughing at the post's on here defending the referee, especially the ones that reference their 6 hour class. Please, I was a referee as well, taking that same 6 hour class. Learning the rules of the game is the primary effort of that class, recognizing fouls is and was very small part of it. There are definitely times when a call is missed but as slow paced as games at this age are, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to miss one, especially ones as easy to call as these. This ref was either extremely green or too scared to blow the whistle. Regardless, this was absolutely unacceptable.
Some calls were terrible, but you have to remember at this age level kids stumble over their own feet, and a lot of kids have no clue what they are doing. Out of my referee experience of U8-U14. U9 is the one with the most fouls, even though kids don't know what to do you must still call the fouls or they will never learn.
It's pissing me off that people are talking crap on refs, Bc I am one and they don't understand we can't see everything at once!! We have to take a 6 hour long class. We know what we're doing!!
+TrueBlue ya!! Parents really need to shut up and let us call the game... I had to eject a parent Bc they wouldn't leave my ar alone!! They kept throwing balls at him and I told him to leave...
I actually went to go spy on another teams practice once when I was in U12 and the coach straight up was teaching the kids how to pull jerseys, throw elbows, cleat up slide and how to dive. The parents were there watching the practice smiling and everything. I called my coach and warned him about it, he called the soccer association and they apparently were already keeping an eye on the coach and were watching the practice as well. Coach was fired, team was suspended for the next month while they found a replacement coach to "unlearn" everything they were taught by the previous one.
Maybe instead of saying people are bad or the worst, you give them advice. Maybe instead of putting them down you try to help them. As a ref I hate it when people tell me I do a shit job, no It doesn't happen often, but getting abused makes you feel so bad. It makes you feel like you failed at something you put so much work into and if you wonder why people don't like refing... Its cause of you guys.
21 was reckless with a lot of his tackles, but he's so young I can't tell if he's just really uncoordinated. The ref doesn't need to show any cards as he's reffing (what I assume to be) 8-10 year olds, but he definitely can't let fouls go, and needs to have a word with the child and/coach to let them know that what they're doing isn't acceptable football. This ref is the reason so many players grow up to be so dirty.
Referees like these are the ones that give all refs a bad reputation. The referee here had absolutely no control over this match. Had the kids been older a fight would have broken out from all those late challenges/kicks.
@@charlie.h9893 That’s not true, as they game goes on you can see them purposely kicking/taking out each other while the ref doesn’t absolutely nothing about it
The blue team especially number 21 was taught how to foul not how to play soccer/football. This is not right for the ref to not call anyone? The ref was blind.
+Dev Bedi - My initial response was to wonder why anyone would post a u9 game in an effort to shame a referee (and/or a player). I still believe that it's wrong to have posted this. Having said that, this referee was having a really, ... REALLY bad day. I would have hoped that a coach, or some caring parent on blue's side, would have intervened to reduce the violence shown by #21 and a couple others. Children learn the wrong things when allowed to play like this. And this referee showed no sign of competence during any of these clips - although I recognize they represent only a small segment of the total game. But man ... he was looking right at the plays most of the time, and still failed to blow the whistle (about half of these are not fouls on blue - but the other half are ridiculously obvious fouls).
I actually spoke to a coach at the u-11 level before I did his game. He said a player recklessly kicked a player right in front of the ref, and she did nothing. He also said the ref missed about 6-7 other fouls, He said he put in a request never to have the ref again-fearing player safety. In my early years, I was guilty of missing some careless fouls, calling a pre-mature foul, but could always see the reckless aspects. I also, as one mentioned, was consistently paired with sr officials that made it a point to coach me.
It's ez for all of us to jump on the referee. But when there are not enough refs who are properly trained and some poor slob is just shoved out there without proper training or reasonable ARs, this type of foul will go unpunished. We can all agree that the ref missed many hard fouls, and that #21 blue was an SOB durig the match. But we have slow mo and re-runs, (VAR) as it is sometimes called. I have had a game where a some players frrom both teans came up to me right after the match and said that Blue kicked Red after the signaling at the end of the match. Upon inquire of my ARs, neither one of them saw it, and neigher did I. So what is a referee to do? Sometimes we are screened off and sometimes our eyes are in another place. Of course it doesn't happen 9 times in one game.
Scott Burry seriously man? Chill the fuck out the kid is like 8 or 9 years old and you're calling him an SOB. Looks like the son of a bitch is you picking on little kids
It’s a manner of speech. Most of them were dangerous fouls from behind, except for the kick in the kids chest, that was a straight on in your face foul. Kid should have been red carded several times.
Dude I understand your frustrated but when these kids are only 8-9 then they are going to give little to no coordination so they will fall over a lot and trip them self’s. The referee was doing a fantastic job with not calling half of them, yet a couple he could have just stoped the game and talked to the kid, also kids at this age will have no intent to start a fight and hurt people. They are 8-9 remember that
Completely untrue. These were obvious tactical fouls. You under-estimate these kids. I don't think he's a bad kids, just on purposefully using tactical fouls. In older ages, you get 1, maybe 2 such fouls before you get a YC and the next is sent off. He could keep going because the ref had some silly, inflexible sense of whats right for a U9 players. Bu if a kid is engaging in purposeful tactical fouls, he's old enough to get a YC!
Not true what so ever, if the kid commits more than two fouls he should have got a yellow even if there 8 or 9 there is no need for a kid to take out other kids, the ref is a pussy for not calling a single one of them
Using cards at this age won't get you anywhere. This is where calling fouls when they happen and making a presence as a referee makes a difference. Players respond to the referees actions- or in this case inactions... simply calling the easy fouls will earn you respect from the players and games will be easier to referee. At this age, players don't know about the game, it is the referees job to make sure they learn the rules and that they learn they can't get away with cheap fouls.
Rough game, and pretty much because of a single player. IMO I agree there were fouls and they should have been called. IMO B#21 is a reckless player and should have either been carded out of the game, or removed from the game after a warning, a yellow, and a talk to the coach with this player. :12 Clearly a tripping foul from behind by B#21 with no intent on playing the ball, verbal warning at this age. :29 Foul and a stern talking to. :38 Charging foul by B#21, yellow card and definitely a talk with coach & player. Even recommend a rest for the player. Hopefully the coach is receptive. If not, you know where it comes from. :50 O#25 Charging foul. Always helps to talk with the players. They will start to retaliate, yes, at this age and level of play. :58 Not real clear if any foul occurred. 1:03 B#21 Charging foul, second yellow for this kid. Now realize none of the foloowing would have occurred with this player removed.1:21, Wow, kicking the goalkeeper when he is in possession of the ball, in U9? 1:51 B#21, kicks an opponent to the chest, reckless (yellow), or SFP (red). 2:11, not really sure B#21 had anything to do with it. Just because a player falls, does not mean he was fouled. 2:34 Careless attempt to play the ball by B#21 on this one.
I have been affiliated with soccer for close to twenty years and have two kids now playing college soccer and a U10 player as well, our fourth child. I have been a team manager for a high level travel team and also been a travel commissioner for a club. I have seen it all and my oldest son actually refs. I first thought what idiot is taking the time to post fouls in a U9 game. However, after watching the video, I would post it as well. Many of these incidents are straight red cards, not just fouls. The players are in DANGER and the coach should have really gotten on the ref and even stopped the match to protect his team. I am surprised to see linesmen in a U9 game and why are they not flagging? I have never been tossed from a game but if I was a parent, I may have been at this match. How do you ignore a foot to the chest? Where is the parent of that player? I would be ashamed. Regarding 21, he may have gotten away with it today, but he will not in the future and will obviously be sitting out a few matches and hopefully learning what is acceptable in the sport.
Show your son this video and he will tell you game has made worse calls. And second of all. This kid is 9. If I take a kid and put him in a room full of candy what is he going to do? Eat as much candy as he can. If I tell him not to eat the candy what will he do? Still eat some candy but less. If nobody tells him not to do these things than he is going to. The ref should have called the first foul. Then a yellow on the second and the kid would have been done. He wouldn't have gotten near another kid.
+Ben Rice Then you do the reffing community a disservice if you don't! If you don't send him off, how is he going to learn? I don't care what age you are! You do something stupid, you will get punished in accordance with the Laws of the Game that we are obliged to uphold.
I hope my English is good enough to say something about your video. First I am a German football referee so I can explain some thougths the ref might had: Point 1: I agree with you, that Nr. 21 should been suspended from the game, but I would speak to the coach first, because you can´t do much with yellow and red cards in this age so the coach sould see that the player Nr. 21 should stop playing. Point 2: As a referee it is not so good to be so strict in this age group because don´t forget that this are children and they don´t think about their actions. Point 3: If you think you would do it in a better way so go to the club and ask to become a proffesional referee then you can understand why the ref wasn´t so strict in this game
All refs have to develop somewhere. No one knows how much experince this ref has. This could be his 1st middle ever. Yes I see some fouls but deff not classy to blast U9 reff for missing some calls on RU-vid. This guy is prob trying to feed his family and you take it upon yourself to name associations and towns. Shame on you. Shame on you.
What? Some of those fouls were straight up nasty. It's only a matter of time before one of the kids will sustain a really bad injury. If the ref does not have the competence or the cajones to properly officiate the game, he needs to be called out. Or he can find another job.
ohen There is a time and place to do it. You can talk to the assignor and show him the video. People do not show up to your work and video you messing up and blast it all over RU-vid. Refereeing is extremely hard even at that level.
Likely the the only reasonable comment here. It can always be better - but it's odd that every youth soccer game has so many expert referees in attendance.
Some of the calls were questionable but I’m with the ref since it seems like a physical game so being a ref myself we are suppose to let more stuff go when it is a physical game. Also they are u9 they trip over themselves and have the balance of a broken cryan. There is the no call from “zac” getting him back but after a few of the trips I would have told the kid to quit it and also yelled at the parents a few times over cuz they were out of control
Buddy, you have no idea about how soccer is played. Many of those fouls would be called in the World Cup (where professional players are much better at protecting themselves) let alone in a U9 game. C'mon.
ohen yes but that’s professional where everybody dives. You need to watch some Sunday league to see some real football then you’ll see this kind of physicality is normal.
As a ref, I feel that some of the “fouls” weren’t and your being overprotective of your precious little boy and others I feel are red/yellow cards bust seriously dude it’s U9 soccer grow up
21 is playing with aggression! At such a young age that signals talent and a will to fight! I think he will succeed in his future soccer career, bc this is one of the most important game aspects. Y'all are just soft
Philip Bogdanov the fuck you mean just soft, that’s like saying “oh, all he did was kick him in the back of the head, make him bleed and go the ER.” He was just playing a bit to aggressive
That’s unacceptable by the ref, if I was the coach of the orange team I would have intervened and pulled my team. It’s a miracle no child was seriously injured. In Australia we play Minni Roos for u7 to u12 with modified rules no points for winning the whole thing in geared around development. The no points for winner does not mean learning to be competitive is lost. It’s very competitive but not at the expense of development and learning to play in a good spirit if winning or loosing.
I don't agree that every foul wss intentional. This could have been stopped immediately if the ref would have addressed the first hard foul correctly. From the clips which are only a small portion of the game, it appears the ref allowed the game to get out of control and when the kids realize they can get away with these types of fouls these will continue yo push these boundaries and retaliate. At this age, the coaches and ref need to control and teach tge game bc parents typically only add fuel to the fire.
More proof of how Americans don't know jack about football. Half the time, number 21 didn't touch the opponent, or just did a simple push (not a foul).
Tomas Munoz you clearly don't know the sport a push without the intent of getting the ball is a foul I play semi pro and some college ball and they should teach this kids from early on how to play by the rules
Pressure isn't intending to get the ball, it's just basically pressure. Get your stuff right, now if you think ur so cool because you play semi-proffetional football then you need to think a little, semi-pro isn't a biggie. I have trailed for teams like PSG, Wolverhampton, Fulham and Sporting Lisbon (Where I now play). It's called pressuring, and someone playing in Portugal (One of the best countries with youth teams) would know the term of that.
To aribpm, you are correct that this might be a newbie Referee. That puts the failure on the Assignor and league for not having someone senior on the crew to help him or a Mentor watching the game. This Referee crew needs guidance on foul recognition. He could have been getting help from his AR some of the fouls were in front of them.
The problem is that there is not much lower than this, and what is lower is often "training ground" for 11 year old referees. This guy looks more than old enough. Not sure if it is inexperience or simply he's not cut out for it. He'd get eaten alive by even 12 year olds.
1. This is u9 2. I know, there are a TON of fouls 3. Overall, was the kid fouling. Yes, but you shouldn’t take it out on 1 kid, I mean, some kids are more aggressive that others, and that was indeed shown in this montage of this game
Crazy to see that in a U9 game. As a ref I have never shown a card to a U9 player. They just aren't cynical or malicious yet. I think I would have shown this kid a card (#21) though. I also think I would have escorted him off the field and ask his coach to sit him down for a while to calm him down. At least get him to think. But then again I wasn't there in the moment so it's hard to judge how I would have handled it.
As an amateur level referee, that has refereed at this age level, I believe that this referee was not good. At this level, the kids can be a bit clumsy with tackles and controlling the ball. Therefore, you really need to be a bit lax with calls - otherwise you'd be stopping the game constantly. BUT - the referee (at this, and every level) must primarily watch out for the safety of all players on the pitch. Anything dangerous MUST be addressed immediately. I don't like to criticise referees, because we can't possibly see every incident perfectly and with the benefit of replays. But, in my opinion, the #21 player made a number of dangerous tackles which should have been dealt with severely, even at this age level. Children are not stupid, they learn quickly - good habits, and bad. When you ignore bad behaviour, they'll assume it is acceptable - and they'll keep doing it. If he is rewarded (like if his team won), then that is telling him that his behaviour is how best to play the game. Funnily enough, adult players are exactly the same. I treat all adult players respectfully, but deal with bad behaviour (bad/late/deliberate fouls) harshly. Adult players learn, very quickly, what they can and can't do. Children should be given the same guidance.
The ref should have to get re-licensed. Player should have been handed a red card. As a coach, I would have removed that player and informed him if he wanted to take the pitch again he couldn't put anyone else in the dirt.
