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Hard Support Tier List | Dota 2 7.37d 

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@ZQuixotix
@ZQuixotix День назад
Some heroes I forgot on this list/you have asked about: - Tinker = C Tier. A lot of pubs won't give you the proper space to get farmed the way you want to. Still good in the late game and at the style he brings - Bounty Hunter = C Tier. He keeps getting buffed, I think you can make him work with a more aggressive team comp. Similar to Tinker, I don't think you'll get the ideal draft to make him work as a 5 very often - Magnus = D Tier. You have to be really good with Skewer. Empower to enable teammates is not as good as it used to be. Magnus specialists will be fine - Nyx Assassin = D Tier. Very weak laning stage, no option for creep dragging and very punishing to roam from safe lane - Sniper = D Tier. Scattershot nerf hurt the value of support Sniper a lot. Still playable as pos 4, but quite weak for a pos 5
@SFTaYZa
@SFTaYZa День назад
Don't know how you forgot medusa
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 День назад
Nyx surely has to be a C, his potential to take the large creep from a pull camp with his second spell is very handy, and for some reason people love to focus the pesky Nyx who has high armour. He's a constant threat to squishy supports and trades well. I'm not sure why you think he can't creep drag, this sounds like a you issue, learn the hero. Source: 86.4% WR after 22 games on Nyx this patch.
@beneaththeveil
@beneaththeveil День назад
Your service in forcing Act IV out is invaluable, Zac. Thank you
@Trash_G0lem
@Trash_G0lem День назад
I would put pugna higher on pub games, cause the lower you go, the rarer people buy dispels for your w, healing reduction item for your r, and often just ignore the ward whole teamfight, which makes you tankiest fing hero on the map.
@TheLegendofLeo
@TheLegendofLeo День назад
I played Lich last night for the first time in years because of you. What a beast of a hero. He’s way more fun now than at any point in his history.
@bestiaalfin1061
@bestiaalfin1061 День назад
U literally doesnt have to care abt mana once lane breaks out,and ur slows are extremely overbuffed,feels like enemies are rooted.
@enBT
@enBT День назад
Especially after you get aghs upgrade its so strong gazing 3 heroes at once and then ulting them
@Jebu911
@Jebu911 День назад
Sacrificer lich was my guilty pleasure back when it worked. It just instantly made you win your lane
@PsychoMachado
@PsychoMachado День назад
@@Jebu911 Lich and Enigma were able to do it. Just constantly deny the ranged creep so the enemy has less xp and gold.
@lordparthurnaax
@lordparthurnaax День назад
Lich is my go-to hero whenever I'm in a losing streak. Papa lich never disappoints
@nobeledgar6289
@nobeledgar6289 19 часов назад
another fun fact about lich is that there's another cheese build i tend to have high success before is building phylactery on lich + lvl 10 left talent which makes your skill 1 nukes harder it's been a while though since i last played that build, i think it was around when my mmr was still archon 4-5 ish in the 2.8k-3k and i'm aware that it's sort of a greedy build but it nukes so good the earlier you can get the phylactery so i'd say it's kinda strong mainly in lower bracket i've opted from building that strictly because i've been playing less lich and when i do play lich i now usually tend to play around like solar/glimmer instead as i play in a 5 man party and team items in the previous letter patch was sort of the broken item so yeah
@subschool5
@subschool5 День назад
i propose that every episode Jupiter gets a brief analysis segment 13:00
@willocoptor
@willocoptor День назад
“In low tiers X is good because players don’t buy counter item Y” - ZQ meanwhile in my low tier pubs theres 5 players first item rushing Y
@wuhu0
@wuhu0 День назад
Probably they're farming item y slow as fuck
@milansvancara
@milansvancara 11 часов назад
Yeah when coaching I also love when in some games there is no detection whatsoever and in others they buy gem min 15 and pile 20 dusts in inventory lul
@thekentmk
@thekentmk День назад
Having great success with Grim the past 2 weeks, running at 27-7, currently on Crusader 4. This rank on SEA takes long at times to end, which gives me enough time to build aghs. With most SEA Crusader Pos 1 picking Jugg, Luna and SF, its great to have it late. Putting it with souldbind and with another core or scaling support, it just tips the scales during clash.
@eclxys
@eclxys День назад
wait are u the grimstroke on match 7999033126 where i was weaver good stuff if yes
@jakevoytko
@jakevoytko День назад
I came in here to say "Thank you for sacrificing yourself and summoning the next patch," and see that you already addressed it in the intro. Thank you for your service 🫡
@fdajax5107
@fdajax5107 День назад
A true support
@jaxjax5489
@jaxjax5489 День назад
Thank you for the video
@nicocastillo2099
@nicocastillo2099 День назад
I just finished watching your Lich video and you dropped this another video. Awesome stuff man!
@Arcticp75
@Arcticp75 День назад
Can we get Jupiter back on the analysis desk? Some insightful pub points, truly a cat of the people.
@Twinsen764
@Twinsen764 День назад
ZQ you should cover up the heroes you don't talk about until you are talking about it to make it a surprise. Also WHERE"S TINKER!
@eclairitea
@eclairitea День назад
no teasing pls
@fajitas4every1
@fajitas4every1 День назад
ET has been my climbing hero over the last year. I enjoy playing him pos 4 though. The impact he has by scouting with Spirit and nailing clutch stomps makes him fun to play over and over IMO. I am a current pos5 Silencer enjoyer. Just had a 9 game win streak end last week. Global will never be bad, getting int steal from across the map is nice. Ancient 3.
@adhirf
@adhirf День назад
Thanks for this updated tier list, maybe the next video could be Phoenix guide because i want to try to learn it by myself but i don't have the knowledge for it.
@Drizzle52693
@Drizzle52693 День назад
Tinker is by far the best supp in pub games IMO. Get a solar crest and just spam it with defensive matrix on your carry and they’re invincible. With March he can double stack camps and it’s also a very good lane spell that heals. Laser is great for spamming on enemy cores in fight. I double down every time I’m playing pos 1 and I have a tinker pos 5 and I almost always win
@emmanuelrenard3749
@emmanuelrenard3749 День назад
I love Abaddon right now. This hero is so good at my MMR (2.8k) . The heal he provides with locket is really good ! Just buy tranquil, locket and whatever you want and you're good to go. I'm still not sure about aghanim. I think it's more a "win more" item you get when your team is already winning, but i've yet to see a real impact it may have.
@JuristPugilist
@JuristPugilist День назад
How do you handle the mana issues when buying tranquil boots? I’ve always purchased arcane boots on abandon, often converting to guardian greaves after holy locket, which helps with mana. Abaddon isn’t much of a “spammer” but in a contested lane you do go oom just from protecting your carry.
@auto1nfanticid3
@auto1nfanticid3 День назад
not having tinker is weird.
@ZAN23966
@ZAN23966 День назад
I love that shadow demon is getting more recognition
@zhontigue
@zhontigue День назад
zquixotix dropped a tier list! patch tomorrow confrmed!
@trontheallmighty9055
@trontheallmighty9055 День назад
I'm not a big pos5 rubick fan, I think he's way better as a pos4, but I think he's relatively well positioned just based off what heroes are very picked right now, you don't get a ton of heroes with spells that are just bad to steal, though neither underlord nor lesh are A tier right now so it's a little sad (icefrog double the numbers on invading force I want underlord to get picked)
@DreamOnDamu
@DreamOnDamu День назад
wd with the split shot ult has been getting me pretty far as long as u get early picks and rotate often. Buy whatever first support item would be important first like a vessel or force and with enough picks your team can be farmed enough to fight anything while u get ready for aghs and e z win every fight unless they have a lot of stuns
@jithinsurendran678
@jithinsurendran678 День назад
Act 4 is up soon❤❤❤❤
@jtong622
@jtong622 11 часов назад
Can you make a video on how to think about counter picking when you see enemy heroes pick a few heroes?
@ragberkotobuki41
@ragberkotobuki41 День назад
I`ve been playing Naga 5 since 2016. Fucking Glad she is back as a 5, with the same "E" skill as in the past (kinda). Im not a pro but in my bracket and in time I have to play I found a lot of success with naga, even with people who don`t know the hero and why is she 5
@tevit7461
@tevit7461 19 часов назад
I love the cat sm
@nate2sev
@nate2sev День назад
Thanks for the list!
@NicholasWaldrop-x3g
@NicholasWaldrop-x3g 16 часов назад
Pudge in D tier makes me feel like my wins are more worth it.
@dinoattack2
@dinoattack2 22 часа назад
How does DB support work? Every time I tried it, laning feels so bad because of her bad mana pool
@Bergreen88
@Bergreen88 День назад
I really don't understand how Enchantress gets a low win rate. You can literally play her without micro. Just don't control creeps, use W as a massive hero slow, and play her as an unkillable right clicker who does massive damage. Get like hurricane pike, shadow blade, parasma. You can just kill everyone that way.
@GurneroMaelstrom
@GurneroMaelstrom День назад
She'll gets easily countered late game by Silver Edge making you waste BKB
@Bergreen88
@Bergreen88 День назад
@@GurneroMaelstrom if she has her own silver edge and hurricane pike, she's not just easily countered by another silver edge. But also don't forget sproink. She's just so hard to kill if you have any practice playing her.
@sHooIT
@sHooIT День назад
usually im on point with my evaluation of the patch (as a lowly archon scrub) and my list is very similar with yours. but holy shit i fucked up this time lol. I thought pugna felt soo strong. I also thought tusk was very good still. And i played omniknight and wrote him off immediately as dog tier.
@basketball2560
@basketball2560 День назад
Yo how come you never talk about Sand King ? That hero is all I know lol and I'm good with SK but it's the least talked about hero.
@dariussonofjazzlin7433
@dariussonofjazzlin7433 13 часов назад
Does Jupiter do coaching?
@mario141230
@mario141230 21 час назад
I don't see Lycan with Alpha Wolves plus aura item in the list :)
@peropero2307
@peropero2307 День назад
I haven't played entire summer, well more, about 6m... shadow and tusk are always at least a tier, you have good save, bkb piercing spell and a bit of cc. tusk is better IMHO, but it is way harder to execute, and he is more 4 then 5. so kids, learn ss 5 and tusk 4, and you can go 9k easy, is 9k still good....
@peropero2307
@peropero2307 День назад
PS, before summer I have played lych... he was so fkn good... don't take that talent that basically just zones one enemy with ur ulty.
@eclairitea
@eclairitea День назад
Had a game where my SD kept saving enemies from my Sonic Wave with disruption lmao. definitely not a pub hero
@chrisbowerman988
@chrisbowerman988 День назад
Tinker, BH, Nyx, Magnus, Sniper all missing!
@lukaspts671
@lukaspts671 День назад
when soft list i wait bro love it
@B0uff0s
@B0uff0s День назад
dunno about AA. I enjoy being annoying in my 2,5-3k pubs
@adrianljx66
@adrianljx66 День назад
Is it just me or tinker is forgotten already 😅
@TheGlenn8
@TheGlenn8 День назад
Having a cat must be hard bro.
@maryclaris4762
@maryclaris4762 День назад
It's not that hard. I have 6 cats at home and some at workplace. It's much more fun with them around.
@HosenMatzDeluXe
@HosenMatzDeluXe День назад
Tinker?
@simonepizza8600
@simonepizza8600 День назад
praise
@Melteezy23
@Melteezy23 День назад
stop Mentioning y'all tinker cuz tinker ain't post5, its a pos4 lol
@lanceeeee1
@lanceeeee1 День назад
Guys I am now a better person I had a 0 chat behavior score for the better part of a year. I am now at 2,000 after 3 months of supporting in turbo. Is there any way to increase it faster? I’m trying to learn the support role as best as I can
@GurneroMaelstrom
@GurneroMaelstrom День назад
2000 is extremely low. If you were actually a better person, it will be easy for you to get behavior and com score to 10k
@maryclaris4762
@maryclaris4762 День назад
Just play with less talking on the mic. If you want to do something with the team, try saying why you wanted to do it. For example smoke gank, maybe like "all our ulti is up, lets smoke gank for a kill" or "Enemy don't have bkb / ult in cd, lets find a pick off." Tbh, just less talking and try thinking on how you can improve your game.
@brycetorian
@brycetorian День назад
Where is visage?
@OPequeNiNo1
@OPequeNiNo1 День назад
where is tinker
@lukaspts671
@lukaspts671 День назад
good tier lost bro
@wallacepekeur687
@wallacepekeur687 День назад
lol that intro
@rogenhamen
@rogenhamen День назад
Bring back TB support :(
@brobro1659
@brobro1659 День назад
harosh
@brandyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@brandyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy День назад
techies buff soon pls 🙏🙏🙏
@thecrystalblue23
@thecrystalblue23 День назад
Naga guide plz 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@budisuping8551
@budisuping8551 День назад
No one wanna talk about BS support here? :(
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