Hardcore SMOKING ALCo's 2 : Indian Railways 

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Apparently an Indian engine manufacturer holds usage rights for one of the engine models (I believe the 251) and they still manufacture it to this day for locomotive and stationary Power generation purposes. These trains are newer than you'd think

@@cpufreak101 no, all our current diesel locomotives are EMD designs, IR stopped producing ALCOs years ago. That said, the designs are extensively modified, and ALCOs are still quite efficient when run and maintained properly.

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@@railvideosbc luckily this locomotives now smoke less from 2020 cause someone attached a filter to them

Also alcos today now smoke white smoke which does very less pollution,but Alcos chugging sound are so nice

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Maly Pivo The turbocharger on am Alco is called a free gas turbocharger it is driven solely by the pressure of the exhaust gas from the engine. The turbocharger doesn't begin to pressurize the air into the engine until the 5th notch of power through the 8th notch which is full power. Once the throttle position is left in either 5-6-7-or 8th notch after the engine reaches the rpm requested by the throttle position then the turbo starts to accelerate to provide the air it needs for proper combustion. There is always a lag of air from the turbocharger but once in for example the 8th notch the turbocharger spools up to provide the air needed. You will notice once at full power the smoke diminishes until nothing but heat waves are coming out of the exhaust stack. The real problem is Indian Railways are built on the lay of the land I.E.: not a constant grade hence to avoid over speeding the train the engineer has to reduce the throttle the as he's approaching the next upgrade has to open the throttle to keep the train speed up. This cause the smoke until the turbocharger gets back up to speed.. I've run Alco, GE, and EMD locomotives for years in the USA and they all smoke till the turbocharger gets up to speed. EMD uses a gear driven turbocharger as it is a 2 stroke engine and requires the gear drive to run when the engine is idling or below notch 5 the the turbocharger on an EMD runs faster than the gear drive driven by exhaust gas pressure and goes faster due to a clutch which allows the turbocharger to run faster when the exhaust gas pressure is there. Alco and GE both use free gas turbochargers with no mechanical drive at all hence they smoke a bit more till the turbocharger gets up to speed. From what I've seen of Indian Railway Alco locomotives they are maintained very well.

wow thanx for the update:)

Maly Pivo No problem I enjoy explaining how diesel electric locomotives work. The simple way is a diesel electric locomotive is nothing more than an electric locomotive with its own onboard generator to provide electricity.

Rajesh

Yes, thanks

That’s f**king pollution

@@lalchandsinha8714 I mean it doesn’t matter to me if it pollutes the air

Americans have trucks that roll coal like a damn alco lol

Are there still Alcos left in US?

They are now manufactured in India.

Pankaj Patellar

Thanks for watching , appreciate.

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But these are not steam engines.

VeRTeL hi

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Canis Major No, an inherited turbocharger design problem. Indian Railways will Phase Diesel out completely, but there will be some as Backup.

@@1AxK9 ALCo has had this problem with their locomotives, especially the exports.

george smith not the steam bro,the smoke from coal is bad and this smoke of diesel engine is not for ever,it reduces as the engine picks up the speed. This engine is a generator set that supplies electricity to the big electrical motors atteched to the wheels of the engine.

barjinder toor ...Gee thanks for the info. I had no idea how a diesel electric locomotive worked. snork, snork

A good fireman on a steam locomotive can run a clean stack that's cleaner than these things are currently running. You'll see very little smoke from any American mainline oil fired 4-8-4 IE Santa FE 3751 or UP 844

I don’t care about the air or the environment i like all the smoke!

Thanks for sharing some of your past memories about ALCo's, nice to know , quite informative and thanks for watching :)

theswitcher1

Very much reminds me of Erie Lackawanna /NJ Transit U34C's running commuter service out of Hoboken

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A Singh its Sad that next generation children will not see Diesel engines in action, after 10 to 15 years. By keeping the Videos preserved is the way, we will show them that Once Diesel engines did Exist.

And also They should put hidden camera in locomotives. Because some BASTERD loco pilots drive very badly. And they spoil our indian Locomotives.

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Very well said, yes they abruptly pull to the max throttle resulting in this disaster.

Subhajit Seth yeah seriously well said..but the no. of wagons pulled up by diesel engine's in ascend area..the driver has no other option but throttle up quickly

Good point but are you sure that the smoking problem is not due to old engines needing a overhaul or new engines. India is a fast rising economy and one would think that they would be working on their infrastructure first before spending billions on their space program. However, I'm sure that the government bean counters and politicians know what they are doing! It just seems to me that if one had a business with old equipment that was breaking down all the time and inefficient and costly to operate, that one would fix the old equipment and/or rep[lace them with new equipment before building ones self a mansion! But what do I know! On the other hand, it's good that there are not hundreds of people hanging on the cars and stacked on top, so that's a improvement! I have seen the videos of the old steam engine days and India's excellent maintenance facilities, is it different now that they have diesel engines? Would it be cheaper to rebuild and repair or upgrade the systems on these engines or by new ones? It's almost painful to watch these poor old engines doing the best they can with what seems a lack of proper maintenance!

Nightlightabcd: i am not an economist. In technical aspect, i am sure what i had written and the point by Ranjit Ranjan is also correct. The train had a good number payloads to haul. So sometime pulling the throttle too fast is necessary for avoid stalling.. that i can say.

Subhajit Seth hyuop

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Any idea what year this video was taken? Ps...great footage..

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Mbit Gbit Definetly not in sweden

SixStringLove Guy Oh dear, how sad.

Exactly

Alcos arent produced more in india too... These are all old engines

Cooking

Not really. Diesel engines are like workhorses. Retires after at least 20-30 years of service.

Very truly said Diesel Engines are more charming and Train journeys always bring loads of memories that can be cherished even after decades !

@@TheRailzone ,

I love real story

Scoobydoo Carr What's the difference between indian and American railways

Scoobydoo Carr Yes Indian Railway has Broad Gauge 1676mm. Few heritage mountain railways in India have narrow gauge, ex- 600mm gauge, 762mm gauge, 1000mm gauge. Standard Gauge 1435mm only on Metro Lines and Trams.

Scoobydoo Carr ... Yes something like automobiles in India; right hand drive.

dron dave black steam?

This is surprisingly all by design, it's old engineering from the 1940's and 1950's, when Turbodiesels were just getting developed

They are being replaced by EMD GT46PAC and GE ES43ACmi

this is india not usa population is high

barjinder toor bsex

You should fix your trains.

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The power and thump of twim turbocharged diesel will never be the same with electric one. I would rather say. Plant more trees, but let Diesel loco stay alive.

Shut up Greta.

Who cares if it pollutes the air

Agree with you.

All steam and diesels should be cut for scrap to recycle the metals.

Very bad news, beautiful locomotive converted to electric locomotives

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And going to cause GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Valoro85 stupid idiot. these locos are a economical disaster like whole india....

peter charles The longest passenger trains are upto 26 coaches. Generally Passenger Express trains are of 23 Coaches. Different coaches accommodate different capacity. Just for Knowledge, Unreserved - 90 seating. Sleeper - 72 sleeping. A.C. 3 tier - 64 sleeping berths. A.C. 2 tier - 48 sleeping berths. Chair Car - 108 seats. And so on, many different classes are there. Un

Technically, the world's longest passenger train is the Amtrak Auto Train, but it's a controversial contender as it isn't all passenger cars, it's mostly autoracks

Electric loco🔫diesel loco & steam loco

An shut up let us enjoy diesel locomotive not electric

Forbes Hutton 😂😂😂😂 well said