what if, Jacob remembers everything, or Tina helps him remember, so when Newt and Tina move to England, Jacob changes his last name (and goes with Prince, to match Queenie) because he's technically supposed to be oblivated by law, and Queenie and him go to England with Newt and Tina so that they can be married
This is very interesting because it would make Queenie Severus' only magical lineage, if his father and grandfather were both Muggles. And we all know how JKRowling used the maternal line to be a defining factor for Harry and Voldy. It would be a fitting motif. *edit: father and both grandfathers were all Muggles
But that can't possibly be it. Eileen's parents were both pureblooded. Remember? They cut her out of the family when she married a Muggle man. Refused to have anything to do with her or her son. Even if Jacob was pretending, why would they do that seeing as he was Muggle himself.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SNAPE READING MINDS: “Harry wondered whether he could slip his Invisibility Cloak back on, thereby gaining his seat at the long Gryffindor table (which, inconveniently, was the farthest from the entrance hall) without being noticed. As though he could read Harry’s mind, however, Snape said, ‘No Cloak. You can walk in so that everyone sees you, which is what you wanted, I’m sure.’” *Insert Seamus glare here*
We've known that Newt Scamander is married to Tina since the 'about the author' section of Fantastic Beasts the book. Which was way before Pottermore even existed.
Obviously, their skill levels vary. But, known Legilimens are: Voldemort Dumbledore Snape Queenie Sorting Hat: So that's how he sorts people, huh? Salazar Slytherin: According to J.K. Rowling. It's not exclusive to humans. Wampus Cats can also use it. Possibles: Bellatrix Lestrange: Debated, but someone had to test Draco.
Im fairly certain jacob remembers almost everything but like a dream. Because the venom in the rain removes BAD memories. So he still has his GOOD memories
Optimus Prime454 same oh and your name reminds me of my dogs, we named him that. (I really hope this isn't my brother, he's not allowed to have electronics right now.)
I second that. I'm pretty sure Dumbledore is not a legilimens. Otherwise it would be common knowledge for everyone, and would have managed to prove that Newt and Hagrid were innocent.
Not necessarily. Being a legilimens more powerful than Queenie is a very valuable card to hold in your deck - and we know that Dumbledore isn't a blabbermouth. A demonstratively secretive man like Dumbledore would keep such an invaluable ace close to his chest and never play it until mortally crucial.
Nothing tells us for sure Dumbledore is a legilimens for sure, we can only guess. I mean it's not because he's the greatest wizard in the world that he necessarily have absolutely every single 'cool' power. I mean, Being in an animagus or a metarmorphagus are awesome powers, but Dumbledore is none of them. So maybe he's not a legilimens either. That's problably even more impressive if he doesn't need these powers to be the greatest wizard in the world.
Why is no one talking about how his names is seamus! And there is a seamus in HARRY POTTER Edit: I always thought my opinion was nothing! Thank you so much for the likes 😊
DoctorW42 , okay that statement is going to unleash potterheads on you. Be prepared. There is a Remus Lupin who is(was D:) an adult werewolf.. and a Seamus Finnigan, its one of Harrys friends
Tori Wood wait she could turn out with him because snake is a half blood so she really could have ended up with Jacob because if their child marry's a muggle too like queenie then Snape COULD be Queenies grandchild
This makes perfect sense! It would explain how Snape could “sense” Harry when he was using the Invisibility Cloak but no one else could. You can see him physically tense up because he feels someone is there. The cloak is supposed to shield the wearer from all magic, but it wouldn’t shield against a natural ability that doesn’t utilize traditional magic. For example, we see Snape sense someone is near when he is confronting Quirrell about the Philosopher’s Stone or when Snape somehow appears and catches Harry using the Marauders Map late at night in the corridor. But other people don’t sense him using the cloak, like when they infiltrated Gringotts
Wait but if you think about it, that would make Snape related to Luna Lovegood because Queenie is sisters with Tina who marries Newt who’s grandchild is Rolf Scmmander (mind my spelling) who marries Luna.
@@katestarnes1709 i think in the fantastic beasts and where to find them book, on the writer bio it says that newt scamander live with his wife porpentina
Actually it is noted by Professor Snape that Bellatrix Lestrange was teaching Draco Malfoy Occlumency in the Half Blood Prince. Thus, it would mean 7 characters have been noted of using Occlumency :)
It is not the case of using occlumency or legilamency. Bellatrix may knows about it to an extent but she is not that skilled or have a mastery in that. snape, dumbledore and voldemort does legilamency without wands. other people can practice legilamency with wands
@@samanthagibson5413 yeah and Snape talks about it and mentions the name a few times. Idk why Seamus said it was new when Legilimency has been in the books before.
Seamus you should tweet Jk Rowling and ask if Queenie is Snapes grandmother there's a chance she could reply and then you could find if your theory is true
Teigan Bryce: Many English people have American ancestors, and relatives. Belinda Eddy: As for tweeting J.K about Queenie being Snape's grandmother, I doubt she'd want to tell you, because it might be a spoiler to one of her up and coming movies.
Well. If Queenie marries Jacob, then your theory won't work, unless Harry is wrong. In the book, it says that Eileen Prince is a *pure-blood.* Harry says something like, "He's just like Voldemort, pure-blood mother and muggle father." And Eileen can't be pure-blood if her father is a muggle. I think I'm right about this, I'm too lazy to get the Half-Blood Prince out from my bedroom to check lol
It says in the books. Hermione finds out that his mother is Eileen Prince, so it isn't a hint, it's a fact that contributes to the impression that this theory is right.
Dude... we've known that Legilimency has existed since, like, book FIVE. Queenie just has a natural proficiency for it. Like how Tonks being a metamorphmagus would help her learn self-transfiguration Magic.
Munchkin of Pern I've been searching the comments just to make sure that someone else had noticed this too 😂 it was such a big thing throughout the fifth book and film
Thank goodness other people paid attention. It pisses me off every time someone says it's new. But Snape is skilled at the opposite that doesn't mean he can read minds cause he accuses Harry of stealing from his position ingredient twice in Goblet of Fire. He would know it's wasn't him or that Mad-eye wasn't himself.
Sorry, when I describe a "Legilimens" I'm referring to someone naturally gifted at Legilimency. On the other hand, I refer to characters who train this ability as "skilled at Legilmency".
Yes but if he's as gifted and forgiving and understanding and legitimance as the books have you perceive then why not stand up for Sirius? He stood up for many others except for Sirius.
My theory is that Credence is the father of Eileen Prince, Snape's mother. The dates match, plus Nagini being Snape's grandmother would be far more interesting, although sadder too
@Mr. Maxim Isn't Aberforth Dumbledore's brother not Credence. Credence is way too young to be Dumbledore's brother and in the Deathly Hallows we meet Aberfoth and his relationship with Grindelwald and Dumbledore is explained. Credence is a Dumbledore none the less but he's probably a distant relative of Albus' mother
It actually makes a lot of sense that Dumbledore would train to be a legilimens in the fall out of his and Grindelwald's relationship. Like weather they were friends or more it's pretty clear Grindelwald manipulated the shit out of Dumbledore, something Dumby would probably want to protect himself from happening again, so training to literally read people's minds is a great way to never be manipulated and tricked again by someone he trusts. This also puts Dumbledore's absolute trust in Snape into an interesting light, as well as everyone else's complete faith in his judgement until Snape's apparent betrayal because he's always right about people. Loving your use of Come on Eileen!
dumbledore literally said he was a legilimens in the books (specifically order of the phoenix) and that he should have taught harry occlumency but.. ok....
I'm pretty sure he says he's just good at it, but not a born legilimens, which is something different than being able to read peoples minds via a spell
I love this theory. I just want to point out that if Snape was more powerful than Voldemort, he should have been able to hear him when Voldemort was inside Quirrells body?
I saw this one theory of how Snape originally saved Harry from the beginning it was pretty well researched i think it would be great if you could cover it!
Snape is my favorite too! I'm reasonably sure that she is talking about the video by SuperCarlinBrothers that rather simply says that the only reason lily was able to save harry is because of snape. James sacrificed himself for his family, but it didn't make a difference, but Lilly was somehow able to make it impossible for Voldemort to touch him. This video goes into why, and how. Here's the link if you want to watch it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NV8g_s4VQEY.html
Dude I believe the same theory about Queenie and when I found your video,I was shocked. There is a person in this world that communicates with my mind. Awesome. ♡
legilimensia is a kind of spell but yes people can learn to be one - voldemort, dumbledore, severus and several others (though i think he still uses spells to do so). As a non-verbal non wand needed spell its rare ability. its hard to learn it efficiently; look at the lack of animagi in the wizarding world - its a skill i think everyone would like to learn but we only know about 5 or 6? three of which learned it in a very short time (the marauders). i think more likely that legilimensia is a restricted, and possibly illegal to learn subject where only natural skill and occlumency is the only way to keep it secret
i think there are many unregistered animagus in harry potter including the marauders and reeta skeeter. being an animagus is more of a going through a magical process rather than a skill it seems but still it is a complicated process
That's a cool theory but Queenie's last name is Goldstein and Eileen's last name is Prince. It is said that Eileen was born to the Prince family in Britain in 1929, while we know for sure that Queenie was still in the United States in 1926. It just seems slightly unlikely to me that in two years she would meet a Prince, move to the UK and have a child. Especially with what we see at the end of Fantastic Beasts where she goes to Jacob's bakery. I think that just like math geniuses are born all over the world to different families, so do legilimens :)
There might be other Goldstein´s, which means Queenie could have given birth to Snape´s mom, while other relatives had their descendents, thus Anthony Goldtsein having that last name and being related to Queenie
Stephanie Raebel IKR?! And Draco says in their 6th year that his aunt has been teaching him Oclumency. Is she knows Oclumency, why not Legilimency as well? Draco is actually good enough at it to reppel Snape, hey! So the Blacks and their descendants, Draco being one of them, must have a good ability of it
Lisa Kazmier No... no you're not. You can *like* an era (like the 80s) but you're not an "80s girl" ...no matter how much you tell yourself otherwise. You're a millennial. You suck. Come to terms with it LOLOLOLOL
Wyatt Burnett because taking the luck potion too often or too much is highly toxic. Can also result in having a big head and being overly cocky. Like James Potter natural young personality.
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seraphiccandy21 if I remember correctly, it is stated that drinking it too often leads to developing a tolerance and makes it useless after a few hours and also it means it will not work if you need it in the future for something more urgent...
Seamus: I don't think that Snape and Quennie are related at all. In Quitachy (I know I spelled wrong) over the years 2014, there is a player called Quentin Kowasky (like Jacob Kowasky). Snape didn't have children. In 2014, Quentin would be old enough to be Queenie's grandson.
Queenie could have had several children - a son with Kowalski - to carry on his name, and when Jacob dies of an unfortunate accident, she remarries some guy named Prince and has a daughter.
Queenie is Jewish therefor any children she would have would be Jewish as well (because Judaism is past down by the mother) as such Eileen would also be Jewish and any kids she would have would also be Jewish. J.K Rowling tweeted (when asked) that the only Jew to ever attend Hogwarts (in the harry potter books) was Anthony Goldstein. so Queenie cant be Snapes grandmother because J.K Rowling said the only one in the books was Anthony.
This ability was introduced long time ago and I don't think it has much to do with DNA, just as oclumency, or however you spell it, it can be taught. Some people have talent, and I think Voldemort actually was able to read minds, but I can't be bothered to go online in search of proof.
MorrisMeynolt thanks!!!! I've had a really angry time trying to explain this people aren't getting it and they thing it's brand new . Like. Voldemorts nipple- it makes me mad!
MorrisMeynolt yea Voldemort was born with that like snape. Harry was taught because he had some of of Voldemort in him . draco was taught but he didnt really get it. Snape was better the Voldemort when it came to occlamency and legilimency
Voldemort is hinted to have learned it as when he was in school he couldn't read Dumbledore's mind. Snape is hinted to be born with this skill because as a young child he can seemingly read thoughts (Lily~)
about the leta lestrange theory: it could actually be possible for her children to be fair skinned, as darker skin isn't always a dominant trait. take the stolen generation of australia for example(i'm australian so this might not be relevant but oh well) a lot of mixed raced children were born pale enough to be considered white, and therefore were taken from their aboriginal families. so... it is possible, although can be unlikely. loved the vid btw!
Americans have a very distorted idea of mixed races I find, this dude needs to look up Eartha Kitt and her children and grandchildren and learn something. *smh*
Something that may help you be more optimistic about Americans, or people in general: 20% of them are proud ignorant that scream their hatred as much as possible, the rest are pretty decent...
Robert Follows off the top of my head, I can name snape, voldemort, Dumbledore, Queenie and the sorting hat (people wonder how the hat sorts people :) )
This theory is sort of impossible. Snape's mother was Eileen Prince who was a pure-blood and she was ostracised from the wizarding world for marrying a muggle and disowned by her family. Seriously doubt Queenie would have done that. Snape's father was a muggle who was sceptical about the wizarding world and that caused a lot of fighting in their home, there's also some hints that Snape may have suffered abuse as a child.
Good theory, but I see some flaws. Don't you think Snape as a Slytherin (and this comes from a fellow Slytherin) would brag about being related to (even though it would have been an 'in-law' relation) the famous wizard Newt Scamander? Also, you kinda totally discard the idea that he could have just been the first of his family to be born with a natural ability in Legilimency. This abilities are not something to run in just certain bloodlines, nor does having a legilimens parent guarantee inheritance of the ability; it's like saying that only Einstein's and Hawkin's descendants will have the potential to be geniuses. There were probably thousands of legilimens wizards and witchesin the world for that time, obviously Rowling was not going to cover them all in her books nor now in the FB&WFT movies, so yeah, most probably there is not a direct and/or close family relation between Snape and Q.
Ocean Taylor He did became a Death Eater, so at some point, he actually believed in wizard supremacy. As you may recall, in his years at Hogwarts he took for pseudonym 'The Half-Blood Prince' once again, taking pride on his mother's surname, not a Sacred Family, yet still respected through the 'pure-blooded' wizarding community. He did call Lily Evans a Mud-blood, reason for their fallout, once again proving he did once believed in the superiority of magical blood. There's also plenty of proof on how the prides himself during Harry's school years, for example: when he talks about knowledge (his knowledge, if you may) being superior to Harry's fame and so on. So yeah, Severus, like any human being, is capable of bragging. Moreover, he was friends with Lucius, Bellatrix, Rodolphus, Rabastan and other pure-blooded Slytherin folks at Hogwarts, don't you think they would have asked for 'credentials' on his blood purity? Most probably they did. Which would be the best opportunity to talk about his 'supposedly' relation with Scamander. Now, I know not all Slytherins gloat about their blood purity, I mean it's obvious there have been muggle-born Slytherins (confirmed by Rowling) so not all are proud pure-blood supremacists, but I do think Snape at some point was and there's plenty of proof.
My dad told me that fantastic beasts was supposed to be before Harry Potter but since they never knew that Harry Potter was going to be a success they decided to save fantastic beasts for after the Harry Potter series
I don´t remember seeing the Snape name in the list of the pure blood families, so Snape´s mom isn´t pure blood, she is half-blood. Which means this theory could be true, Queenie could be Snape grandma as she is a witch and Jacob is a Muggle.
Queenie was a half blood witch. But Eileen Prince according to wiki is a pureblood witch(well, possibly), it can't be possible for her to be pureblood if her mother is a halfblood. If she is not a pureblood, the maybe your theory is right. Also, pureblood families are so confusing .
Devil Inferno- No, a child of a halfblood and a pureblood isn't a pureblood. He/she is a halfblood. Like Albus Severus is half blood even though Harry is a halfblood and Ginny is a pureblood.
Devil Inferno-- I found it on Google and apparently a pureblood would've to have both the parents purebloods to be one. The answer is still the same Queenie is a halfblood and Eileen is pureblood so even if she married a pureblood, she wouldn't have a pureblood child. But since it is doubtful whether Eileen is actually a pureblood or not, his theory could be right.
Queenie might be from a pure blood plus half blood parent I don't think she has any mudblood Association and also it counts as pure blood like this Pure plus half=75%pure 75%pure(halfblood or pureblood)+pureblood Pureblood So 3gens
Dumbledore himself said that he was a "sufficiently accomplished legilimens" so he knew kreacher was lying to him and he didn't trust riddle because he revealed too much to Dumbledore when he realized he was a wizard
Eileen could have taken after her father, and if Queenie died when Eileen was very young her daughter could have grown up in a very sad atmosphere which she passed onto her son. And being married to a rat didn't help matters either.
just a fun fact :) Snape's first words to harry were '...tell me, what would i get if i added powdered root of asphodel to an infusion of wormwood?' thisis actually the victorian language of flowers and when translated, it reads: "i bitterly regret Lily's death." MIND BLOWN
I have a few problems with this theory. Slytherins are cunning and clever and personally I don't think that Queeny was the most cunning. Also, Snape had a horrible childhood because of his parents, I think that Queeny would have been a loving mother meaning that Eilean Snape would have probably been loving too, because children often follow their parent lead. These are some of the reasons why I don't agree.
Bellatrix Lestrange is also an Occlumens, we know she taught Draco from Half-blood Prince. She may also have taught Snape. Also the Wiki is guessing that Eileen Prince was born in 1929. To quote their citation about 1929: "As Eileen's sixth-year Potions book was published "around" 50 years prior to 1996 (Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 16 (A Very Frosty Christmas) ), it would have been published around 1946; assuming Eileen bought it new, and she being sixteen at the time, she would have been born around 1929, although she may have alternatively bought a used copy or purchased it earlier."
If Dumbledore could have read Riddle's mind he would've knew he was a murderer. If Riddle was an occlumens, even then Dumbledore should have notice something was wrong with him. I mean, after making two horcruxes (his father and Myrtle) he was, at that point, extremely pale, thin and with red eyes. Dumbledore, dude, what were you thinking? That he was a stoner?
