because palestinians are nightmare and they have this reputation even in the arab world . the same reason no one wants the kurds around palestinians and kurds bring war with them
Why would Palestinians go to other countries and leave THEIR LAND? If I knocked on your little house of inbreeding and Islamophobia and told you my religion says this is my home now ... would you leave peacefully?
It's a testimony to the amazing power of propaganda that you believe Hamas started the hostilities on October 7. And Israel has rejected multiple offers to return the hostages in exchange for an end to the war.
Harvard, or any university, is a SERVANT (service provider of educational services). Where the F does Harvard get off not giving graduation degrees? The fee was paid, the courses were successfully completed. Kick Harvard's ass.
@@user-lo4eo7ie4p The service provider Harvard did what it was hired to to, deliver education. Students confirmed they obtained the education by passing requisite tests/exams. End of story. Harvard is a SERVANT, not the boss.
@@user-lo4eo7ie4p It's like hiriing a dog trainer or an accountant. You retain them fpr specific goals and you pay them to perform certain tasks. They are not the boss. You are. When students start studies at university, they should stop saying, "I was accepted at Harvard", and instead say, "I selected Harvard as my servant (service provider)." Currently there's a power imbalance.
@@shinehy403 Oh we changed, our own citizens turned traitors caused this. Guess what, it wasn't the Red party who threw their country under the bus. But, by all means if your country is so much better, please share it with us.
@@shinehy403 We went straight into social Marxism, of course we changed. Maybe Vlad will sanitize Europe though, that entire continent has bas plagued the world for centuries.
They should be denied degrees. That what accountability is. If you chose to break university rules, then you run the risk of denying yourself a degree.
@@yousreyakhalil5238 Do you remember how many college students destroyed universities all over the country in 2020? The same Dems who took part in 2020, are the same Dems arresting these protestors. The hypocrisy here is 2nd to none.
We taxpayers should not be giving them a penny and all foreign money should be banned. Let them spend the 50 billion dollar endowment. With their bloated paychecks it won’t last long.
@@marcosolo6491 Are you listening to yourself and your justification for Israeli atrocities it’s completely parallel to the same kind of claims and justifications another historically condemned and infamous group made to dehumanize and justify their atrocities towards Jewish people…
Shameful! The university (actually a corporation) has no right to withhold their degrees! Harvard should be proud of these students instead they are witholdytheir degrees. Because the Harvard corporation and administration are purchased, guess by who.
@@UnclePumblechook Corporate rules does not supersede Constitutional Rights. Also, they paid for and passed their courses. Therefore, they cannot hold their degrees. They could have expelled them if they had not already completed the course and thus withhold the degree. But course work and been paid for and successfully completed. This will be revered without the need for a lawsuit. And they are going to take the "Corporate" stance then they should lose the government funding side and lose their accreditation. Since, losing their accreditation is essentially equivalent to withholding the students' degrees.
@@jonq.public5892 you are forgetting that if any student breaks the law or behaves themselves in a manner that breaks the school’s code of conduct, they can be suspended or denied a diploma. Hate speech, illegal occupation of school grounds, calling for genocide of Jews - all are against the BASIC code of conduct for any school. I would also add that if they are protesting against something they can’t even articulate or provide arguments for (outside of what they read on TikTok), then they should be denied their diplomas by the virtue of being simply a pack of ignorant morons
So where are the geographical roots of the so-called Palestinians??????? Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad, aired by Al-Hekma TV on March 23, 2012. Stated..........we all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties. Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri ["Egyptian"]. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians, and the other half are Saudis. Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. The so-called Palestinians are not even from Palestine!!!!!!!!!!
Law suit in the millions... We have something called a constitution. There are many laws that violate our rights and need to be challenged and this is one way to do it. Harvard should be held accountable.
Harvard is holding people accountable. If they don't do this, they're letting everyone know that their university is not safe for certain religions and ethnicities.
No. But being told dozens of times to disperse, told law enforcement would be called, and told again dozens of times by police to disperse, all of which they ignored, does make them trespassers and subject to a criminal charge.
@@ninadaly7639 The US justice system and the college system are two separate things. Ultimately, Harvard is a business and can be sued for breach of contract if they withhold their diplomas.
Joe Biden has been wrong every step of the way in solving this tragedy. Move Over USA, Joe’s “Open Border” Is More Important. Protesters have marched in the streets concerning the issue of “Free Palestine”. Why haven't college students stepped up to the plate and addressed the following very important issues in America? Their motives may be sincere but the importance of the issues they choose to protest is lacking. How about switching your sign to read: “Save America” against the invasion of 8-10 million “illegal” people, from around the world, across an “Open Border”, including criminals, “want to be” terrorists , and fentanyl drug smugglers? Fentanyl ( a synthetic chemical drug) kills 75,000 young Americans ( age 15-44) each year. 300,000 families will bury their children during Joe Biden’s Presidential term. If Joe is re-elected, expect the total to rise to 600,000. This will be a tad less than all US military fatalities, in all wars since the beginning of WWII. World War I: 116,516 World War II: 405,399 Korean War: 36,574 Vietnam War: 58,220 Iraq War: 4,487 Afghanistan War: 2,442 Total: 613,749 Most of the fentanyl coming into the U.S. is trafficked into the country through Joe Biden’s “open border” policy on the southwest border by transnational criminal organizations. Fentanyl is up to 50 times stronger than heroin and 100 times stronger than morphine. Like other opioids, fentanyl use can lead to dependency and addiction. Joe Biden does not talk about this horrific epidemic of opioid drugs on the campaign trail. 300,000 dead Americans and not a word from Joe or the White House. It's as though this scourge is completely nonexistent. Looks like America comes in second place for important issues by Joe Biden. Joe does not use the democratic system to make decisions about "open border" policies, but implements decisions from the White House that have allowed "when and how" "illegal immigrants" and "drugs" can cross into America. "Pay attention to what Joe Biden does or does not do for America , because his actions will tell you everything you need to know."
@@ninadaly7639 Harvard was established for the education of Protestan ministers, not to kiss the Zionist ass. It us the end of Harvard Corporation. This time you're not going to getaway. There is nowhere left for you to escape to.
Not when you are committing a crime. These rioters are not that stupid, they knew what they did was illegal. You can't "Takeover" a building or part of a college and call it protesting. These are domestic terrorists, and should be charged for that. How many people were killed, because law enforcement was baby sitting these spoiled brats. They do not deserve to say they are Harvard Grads.
and the fact that someone pays and completes what they paid for ... should not be allowed. How the hell can a college, a body that is supposed to be open to ideas, take away what these students paid for. Harvard is an elitist trash of a school. The only silver lining is the students that made it without mommy and daddy money.
@@mikeleonard38 Still I have not seen any proof or charges of crimes on these students. How many student protests have taken over buildings in the past without losing their degrees since the Civil Rights protests? Hundreds? Thousands? You talk of them committing crimes forgetting they are protesting much worse crimes.
Of course, these Pro-Palestinians violated the rules of the university. It is not racist issue. The students are have misbehaved and what they did was gravely serious.
@@ninadaly7639 They could probably find a progressive lawyer that would take their case for a lower fee and with a crowd funding effort, it might work... better than paying student loans on a degree they earned and were not given.
Good , you're at school to learn not to throw temper tantrums . If your actions are causing others education to suffer then you don't deserve a diploma .
The larger problem is our universities have become leftist indoctrination centers. There were several professors like Norman Finklestein celebrate the October 7th attacks. The odd thing is he is Jewish.
If u support Hamas, get out of the west and go live in Gaza, Afghanistan, Iraq, Algeria etc. and see how you like it under Islamic laws. be grateful for ur education and show respect to ur countries.
@@aryastark3148 Take the time to look back before & after 1900's.The Balfour Declaration: How was Britain involved in 1948? How much land did Israel acquire after the Six Day War? Did Israel trade Gaza for peace in 2005? Did the Romans first give the name 'Palestinian' to the Jewish people? The only ones who wish to kill all Jews are the genocidal terrorists.
@@UnclePumblechookyeah this finna be a big lawsuit. You think you can take somebody's money and federal funds and not give them their diploma if that's the case give them back their money or give them their degree
It isn't. Every University has a code of conduct, just like a Criminal can be given terms of parole. Any violation of those terms has consequences. I don't know if you went to a University but the Degree is not just for academics, it's for Academics and Character and not meeting the criteria of either is enough to have a student kicked out of school. When did America start supporting TERRORISTS it ones used to pride itself of not negotiating with. It's still this same generation of young people who just some few months back trended on TIKTOK with OSAMA BIN LADEN letter, saying Osama Bin Laden is a HERO. UNBELIEVABLE. And to think these same young people are the leaders of America's future. Incase you are not seeing it, America is GONE.
@@jobcreationmaster Let’s see supporting Palestinian civilians who are being ethnically cleansed and collectively punished is not equivalent to supporting terrorists. You think ethnic cleansing is okay? The leadership at Harvard is showing a lack of moral character here as are you thinking that protesting these atrocities against other human beings is a bad thing. Did you know it’s possible to be against what Hamas did on the 7th and the Israeli governments actions as well? Your false equivalency is grasping at straws and stinks of racism and dehumanization of the Palestinian civilians.
@@marvsmusings ethnicly cleansed my ass , no one buys that line of bull excrement. They are no more being "ethnicly cleansed" than the Germans were in WW2 or the Italians or Japanese. And the vast majority of people know it.
@@ryanbruno8871 You realize that same dehumanizing logic can be used against you for any crimes your government commits as well right? Your claim is straight up fallacious and dehumanizing just so you can cope with the fact you are defending ethnic cleansing and collective punishment.
@@Mike-rc7gn Private entity cannot do what it wants. They had no problems taking their money and they must give them their degrees. Shame on Harvard, shame on Harvard, shame on Harvard.
That is not fair at all. Education is their right and protesting. It is sick that Harvard is playing politics and not anything against the genocide that is happening Palestine.
Havard University kerp your word. Please do not give them the degree certificate. If you do so, you will not be trusted, and students in the future will take you for a ride.
Oh!!!! Take the school board to court. Sue the school board as a body and bring individual suits againtst all those who voted yey to keeping these degrees these kids worked and paid for
You have no idea what the wrong or right side of history is. Nobody does. However, if anything, it's the pro-Israel people who have the moral high ground here, not the gullible idiots running around on campuses chanting rhymes.
What about the thousands of children killed in Africa? Why are these people not protesting for what is happening in Haiti? Why only the people who support Iran, Hezbollah and Hammas should be allowed to protest. Something is wrong with this picture.
@@JoeMarx1914 They do have freedom of speech, the government cannot prosecute them for expressing their opinion. That doesn't mean that private individuals and organizations cannot choose to react to other's speech. Never has, never will.
@@davidgriffith3938But freedom of speech is an entirely ethical issue also! Especially for universities. Free speech is the essence of a university. Don’t pretend otherwise!
and Zioni$ts never have consequences because they blackmailed american politicians through honeypot operations involving underage girls. "Chosen People Of God" wouldn't need to do that if they were truly Chosen by God.
Take a good look at who governs the US. A bunch of corrupt, greedy, immoral, deranged, fascist lying psychos. The worst part is that the politicians are puppets for a foreign state who is in control of the government to the detriment of US citizens.
just shows who is really running the country. it ain't the USA majority but very tiny Minority with roots somewhere else . this group has influence rom top to bottom . happy to see the majority is waking up to this fact
@@ninadaly7639 Look! Someone with no capital fighting for capitalist. So, you mean to tell me that you will pay for a service up front and then let that service provider keep your money without completing the work you paid for because you support the fair treatment of innocent people?
@@mstrwil73 There is a huge difference between a protest and breaking the law. They have every right to protest, the problem started when they chose to break the law. There are standards of conduct on these campasses, they do not have a legs to stand on. They need to tread cafefully as some are talking drastic action like depotation. There is a bill to send them to Gaza,(wont happen, at least I would hope not!) The world is crazy. You never know what retailiation will come.
@@mstrwil73 No, but if I signed up to attend a school and agreed to abide by the schools rules and policies, but was talked into protesting an issue I knew little about and in so doing harassed other students, destroyed school property,, blocked thoroughfares, made a general ass of myself on campus and got myself arrested, I would have done it to myself, wouldn’t I? Do you mean to tell me you think you can do whatever you want without accepting the consequences?
@@ninadaly7639 What school policy restricts your right to your first amendment? What property was destroyed or throughfares were blocked. Sounds like your belief is based on your biases or what the narrative is within your circle. The only violence and/or destruction was done by police and ant-protestors. Rather than witnessing anything or knowing facts of what actually happened, you chose to live in the lie because the truth doesn't suit your bias. If I pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to anyone who offers me a service, they better complete said services even if I don't support a beleif that they do.
These 13 students have invested time and money and EARNED their degrees. They should sue HARVARD and seek relief in the form of their DIPLOMAS and LEGAL FEES and let DISCOVERY reveal HARVARD'S disgusting CORRUPTIONS.
um....no, there's more required to earning a degree than passing the classes. It's just that almost all students actually have no trouble doing those things.....
@@nrsrymj *Listen well, this is how employment works:* Those students are blacklisted _only_ for bad corporations. The good ones will hire them immediately. This is a badge of honor that shows morality and conscientiousness: Exactly what employers look for in an employee.
@@user-wl2xl5hm7k lol, that's certainly not how ANY corporations work, which are amoral entities designed to maximize profit. What their hiring departments will see is that an applicant doesn't have a degree and they will be promptly dismissed.
What has that got to do with anything? Are you even thinking? It's not High School. People pay for University education, no University can just withdraw results because they "feel like it'. Get a grip.
What's bad behaviour about demonstrating? Do you see the similarity between the words Democracy and demonstration. Do you need someone to explain to you what living in a democracy means and as to how it is literally translated into "the rule of the people". How is a people supposed to execute their right in a democracy? By demonstrating. Especially in America, where skinheads can wave the Swastika but students who built a little camp on University ground (which is not on the streets so you don't even see them protesting outside of the area) and protest in a peaceful manner are so scary, you people lose your mind. I mean if my mind was so small, I'd loose it too. Go look for some real arguments. Or keep yapping, at least you are exposing your own biases and lack of knowledge. Free P.!!!!
Yea it seems like an easy lawsuit to me . Like apart from cheating and actual terrorism I can't imagine a school being able to do this . This is wild . Doesn't matter what they were protesting.
A Diploma is the result of studying and passing exams - what has protesting to do with it? Are those universities holding back those diplomas as punishment, and despite the fact that they have been earned by the students?
You will sh!t bricks. Or as Henry Ford said: When you come face-to-face with the monstrous complex organization they have, you will be frozen in fear . Henry Ford 1920 All those doctor jump in line to dance tiktok Left wing Right wing, but all 1000% Israel anything 💥every country whom hasn't a Central Bank, or recognized Israel as a state, in the u.n. Guess whom was exempt during probation .....😂 Making Laws,for only us. Jesus tried to warn us 🐑 🐑 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 🙊🙈🙉
Exactly!!! This is the opposite of "Antisemitism"!!! But we don't have the special same privileges. Palestinians are Semitic so I guess it is also Antisemitism against Palestinians and their causes!!! Even YT looks for any opportunity to censor me!!! One group of people hold so much power over the West and the world at large!
Once you realize that Epstein and Maxwell were Mossad assets, everything starts to make alot more sense. You what to know what is more powerful leverage than donations? Blackmail.