Has Claudine Gay wrecked Harvard? | SpectatorTV 

Claudine Gay did not ruin Harvard. Harvard did that; she is the symptom of a decline that has been occurring for a long time.

She is a symptom not the cause.. The whole structure that elevated her to President is the issue, not her temporary occupation of that slot.

The hiring of Gay is a telling indicaton that Harvard has turned its back on merit.

She didn't wreck Harvard she exposed Harvard.

I have a Ph.D. in Chemistry. Believe me; that was hard hard graft for four solid years followed by a searching and remorseless viva voce that ground on for over three hours. To think that this person has 'achieved' the same qualification through cheating and friends in high places boils my blood

She is still on the payroll, $900,000 salary...DEI at it's finest.

This is proof she was not there for her academic rigor. The search committee and Harvard Corporation board should also resign.

I think Harvard sponsors have a moral duty to withdraw funding until Gay is sacked and Harvard’s entire sewer is cleaned out

Her sheer arrogance in playing the race card when found guilty of plagiarism & blatant double standards on discrimination is both shocking & sadly predictable. She couldn't even bring herself to say the one word which would have given her an ounce of respect or credibility; 'Sorry'.

Blame the people and the ideology that gave her the job.

The whole Board should go, not just her and do not let her keep the President's salary.

She is by no means a lone actor. She is propped up by those who would overlook plagerism because of her skin color. The place is surely rotten.

My grandparents spent 3 years in a Soviet run gulag in Hungary. Everyday they did hard labour, and received a re-education telling them how bad Hungarian society was until they finally agreed. Their crime was that they were farmers. It's gratifying to know that Harvard now teaches the exact same curriculum the Soviets used.

The point being missed by most, is that these three academics all gave roughly the same answer. Threy had been advised by the universities, the people behind them also need to go. They are the puppets of the unseen. WHO ARE THEY?

Enough blame to go around on this one. 1. Harvard's faculty and board for hiring Gay. Her list of publications was nothing short of lackluster for a university president. 2. Harvard's commitment to DEI and not academic excellence. 3. Harvard's willingness to look the other way to protect Gay from critics and try to use the race and victim cards (overused by now across the US). 4. Gay herself has done huge harm to Harvard----first by plagiarizing and then by refusing to admit that she violated academic honesty codes of conduct. She has shown no remorse over what she did-----and I have a sneaking suspicion she will continue to plagiarize because she has a gaggle of willing defenders who have made her resignation about race and not about academic honesty. 5. Harvard has opened a huge Pandora's box of problems by retaining Gay in a $900,000 faculty position. What message does that send to students? to faculty? What message does that send about the relevance of Harvard's code of academic honesty? Will Harvard now have to accept plagiarism and cheating as acceptable since one of their own faculty members is a plagiarist? More questions will be forthcoming as the media and critics continue to examine Gay's publications and Harvard's actions.

Her doctorate should be rescinded.

50+ items of plagiarism so far. Gay is an academic fraud full stop. How did she get as far as she has?

Claudine Gay has spent her life in all the best schools and universities, before Harvard she was a tenured professor at Stanford University. It's abhorrent that she has risen to the top so quickly considering the 50 incidences of plagiarism with 11 published papers and zero books written. Gay is not meeting the minimum requirement for such lofty positions. She is no longer president, but still tenured faculty at Harvard pulling down $900000 per year. I assume she will go back to teaching, which is hardly punishment for what she did.

But she is useful in one way: she personifies everything that's wrong with contemporary academia.

In all fairness, Harvard has ruined itself. This didn't happen overnight.

Students at Harvard should start submitting Gay's doctoral thesis for assignments, unaltered and unattributed, just for a laugh.

The fiasco certainly doesn't reflect well on the intellectual and moral integrity of Harvard's administrators.

Board chair Penny Priztker must take responsibility.

Twice in applying to doctoral programs, I was told I was the favored candidate, but edicts from the administration were that women were to fill these slots. I had a similar experience when applying for university positions. This occurred in the late 80s and early 90s. Had there been a superior or comparable female candidate, the choice would matter little to those particular schools, programs, and disciplines. But since the edict was to choose a female candidate/PhD, the selectors would go as far down the list as needed to find someone who fit the bill. The reward/punishment system was set up now not to select someone who could advance the reputation of a program or school, or to advance a field of study, but one that would change society. Thirty + years of that process created Claudine Gay. If one were to compare her academic or administrative accomplishments to the entirety of any major university faculty, she would be in the lower 5%. But if the selection criteria is to select a black woman, she fits the bill. One other comment, black candidates who would be qualified were not evaluated because they were not pushing a DEI/CRT agenda. In my academic and professional career, I have worked with countless formidable black professors and administrators, none of whom would ever play the victim card as did Gray. Any of them would have been a far better choice to lead Harvard than a dishonest researcher who does not understand that there is no context in which advocating genocide on campus is not violating Harvard's policies.

Racism? It all depends on the context.

She gives me chills, she doesn't have empathy, pure narcissist

No, she's exposed Harvard.

The fault lies with the people and system that gave her the role in the first place.

Harvard wrecked Harvard : it certainly did !!

Gay’s stonewalling replies, and her failure to condemn the strong anti semitic culture at Harvard, indicates she is comfortable to allow it to continue. I found her indifference quite shocking,

Lethal combination of Marxist politics plus woke DEI double standards AND lower standards got her in AND out of Harvard. He’s right about the need for a push back & it’s not just from the right but also old school moderate liberals.

Nice Samuel Johnson reference! ... "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." In today's academia, "Racism is the last refuge of scoundrels."

Thank you for making us feel like the adults are returning to the room!

She said it's against the code if it becomes conduct, did she she mean it's OK until you start killing people? What is "conduct"? And how is your classmates calling to g Jews not personal if you're Jewish? This is like than what happened in 1938 in universities in Germany. Or I wonder if it was like this in Rwanda.

Harvard should strip of her tenure and fire her. If not, every student should graduate with honors regardless. Moreover, the expelled students should file a class lawsuit against Harvard for losing lifetime earnings without a Harvard degree. The fired faculties and school personnel should also file lawsuits against Harvard and her for emotional and financial damages.

Claudine Gay tells us she was fired because of racism. We should retort; "perhaps, but i suppose it depends on the context...'

Harvard diploma holders should class sue them, since that diploma is a T paper now.

I hope donors withhold donations until she is no longer at Harvard.

Harvard wrecked Harvard.

It took 2 centuries to build the reputation of one of the worlds most sought after university and a DEI appointee to irreparably taint the reputation in just 6 months-seems like that was the goal. Clean house starting with the board that hired but wouldn’t fire her. Ms Gay obtained tenure by committing fraud therefore she should be shown the door, not allowed to continue teaching; both she and Harvard deserve the lawsuits they are facing.

God forbid if anyone ever said anything along the lines of "the linching of blacks in America is only wrong depending on the context."

Harvard is a 50 billion dollar hedge fund. It isn't going anywhere. And Harvard will probably appoint someone as bad or worse to replace her. But Harvard alumni, as well as alumni from most American colleges and universities, should really reconsider giving them any money since most all of them are bad in terms of values.

I learned more from just being a high school graduate. Plagiarism was beaten into our minds as a way of cheating.

She was only 'borrowing' the material until she got her Doctorate. In the meanwhile Harvard has created a number of new terminologies to reframe what she did, as calling what she did 'cheating' or such would be an attack on her person making her feel unsafe on Campus. It's all in the context !!!!!!!!!

She appears to be a symptom of a much deeper systemic malaise affecting the whole institution of Harvard. She is just a public manifestation of this malaise.

Claudine Gay advances a chilling vision of what human thought looks like when unencumbered by moral principle.

Yes, the Harvard brand now sucks!

Harvard was already fucked.

What a huge embarrassment to BE the one that DESTROYS such an institution's very name....

It was already wrecked... She is just an indication of by how much

In 2022 a panel discussing autism awareness including information regarding treatments was canceled after backlash from Harvard students who supported the neurodiversity movement. This movement has been successful in canceling much needed treatment for individuals with profound and severe autism and has put a rubber stamp on warehousing and custodial care. Yes, Harvard has a problem beyond Claudine Gay.

With me now that when I see a black person in a position of power I automatically think that they were given a leg up by DEI, and not on merit or their ability.

Thank God this awful woman has gone. But which is worst: the fact that she was appointed in the first place or the fact that instead of leaving Harvard she goes back to a well-paid cushy chair in whatever "discipline" she is in.

Thank you Spectator for posting this piece and it was refreshing to hear so much common sense and reassuring wisdom being spoken in such a calm manner. I particularly liked the part at 22.37 where you guest said that 'being called a Racist has lost so much of its emotional power because we know we're not racists...' . Let's hope 2024 is the year where common sense comes to the fore and the Race Card is firmly put back into the box marked 'to be shredded'.

More I learn about this saga the more I realise that this DEI cabal needs to be confronted and brought down.

Listening to Peter Woods’ excellent analysis in this video of what and why teaching institutions are now failing in their primary purpose, should be made compulsory viewing for both new students and faculty members alike in USA, UK etc.

At least in the US there is a strong push back. About time the UK government followed suit.

Thank you to Peter Wood and Freddy Gray for an illuminating talk.

If Gay is a perpetrator, what do you have to say about the faculty that reviewed and approved her thesis?

How did Gay get away with the plagiarism in the first place? Were people to afraid of being accused of racism to bring it up at the time?

Harvard will never go away. It's in "The Good Ol' Boy" system which is impossible to shut down.

This is the State of most of the Ivy League Universities in USA. They no longer reward meritocracy but are more interested in DEI, Racism,Woke/Cancel and the alphabet soup culture of sexual orientation. Gone are the days when graduating from these Universities meant excellence. No wonder that these Universities are no longer contributing in giving the Country CEO of major Companies.( Look at the list of CEO’s at the Top 10 Company’s on the Fortune 500 list) One attended an Ivy League school, eight were educated as undergraduates at public colleges,including 3 internationally.

Just a few institutions that I thought would never have “woke” agendas. In no particular order they are; the Military, the FBI, Aviation, Med Schools,Law enforcement, Private Corporations and Sports. I know I’m leaving out many.

She had a lot of help.

Thank you both for your concise and informative conversation about a complex topic.

Gay has received a partial comeuppance (as unfortunately she will retain her salary, benefits and academic "career") but until she is completely removed for her racist treatment of Roland Fryer (the black who had the "wrong positions" backed up by evidence) justice will not have been done ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m8xWOlk3WIw.html

Peter wood excellently clarified the issues. Thank you.

My nephew is supposed to be going there & I am trying to convince my sister & b inlaw to reconsider. I don’t want them to spend another penny on that place

Cut off federally funded student loans to institutions that practice DEI or prohibit any institution with an endowment over x-billion from charging tuition.

She’s not gone she’s still on faculty warning $900k

$900,000 a year?! She should have been sacked.

Clear sighted review. Thanks for putting that together.

She got the first punch in when she decided on punishment for Roland Fryer! A black male economist. He was the wrong kind of black!

Harvard has been academically obsolete for years, imo.

This is the best conversation thus far.

Excellent. Thank you Spectator TV and especially Peter Wood.

I was thinking of doing a Harvard course. I would be too embarrassed to do that now.

I am impressed by this interview. Not everything is lost.

What an eloquent and informative piece.

Au contraire, Spectator readers and viewers are quite likely to have been following this story closely. We're one of the sharpest anti-woke audiences out there.

Pretty low of her to not admit to the cheating ….. to play the victim when it clearly she is the wrong do-er here, shame on her

Great guest. Extremely illuminating.

From what I understand,she is still employed by Harvard, which makes her but a toothpick in a lumber yard of problems Harvard needs to address.

Harvard is now existing only because of its past scholarship... and its $50 billion endowment. Students can get a more useful and applicable education at the local community college.

Peter Wood sounds like a man of true courage, willing to speak the truth into the face of established power structures. Hopefully his actions will encourage others to stand with him against the oncoming wave of resistance to any change in the establishment .

Calling for the murder of a whole group of people does not need "context" and saying it does is morally corrupt.

Gay never learned her lesson. Others are using 'racism' as their talking points and are failing. If I were Harvard College, I'd sue her for slander thereby forcing her in a public venue to prove her 'racism' accusations against Harvard. Failure to do so will, of course, result in Gay paying a steep fine, possibly going to jail and most likely losing her teaching license. But, she opened that door with her written statement siting 'racism' as part of the reason for her dismissal. Time for accountability. Sue her, Harvard, and redeem yourself and set a precedence going forward for everyone else ever slandered via misuse of that word.#

Peter Wood is a voice of reason in higher ed.

DEI isn’t gone.. just re named.

So ... how good was Harward's presidential selection process if Dr. Gay's apparent plagiarism was not discovered then? I do not hear anybody discussing this subject.

If I was a graduate of Harvard I would sue her for the loss of value of my qualification.

Heather Mac Donald deserves endless thank you's. Her recent book was painful to read...but I'm ok. Also good to hear a lot of Black Conservatives speaking out. There is more than us then Folks realize. We are the ones that can end all of this madness. RFK 2024.

The 3 ladies answered similarly. Why is MIT one still on her job ? …

She and the board need to be sacked if Harvard are ever to have any chance to regain their name.

First thumbs up for the Spectacular for some time. Very comprehensive catalog of our mad new world.

This interview is outstanding. Even though Peter Wood kind of looks like a villain from a James Bond movie, he nailed all the important stuff about what's been going down in academia. I've seen it myself while working at a big science publisher in the UK. If regular folks knew how two-faced, cowardly, and biased some of these people are who "produce science" they'd think twice before buying into all the odd ideas floating around.

This interview captures the essence of the current social and political climate with its discussion of controversial subjects. It provides a platform for nuanced conversation surrounding race, gender, and victimhood, subjects that have become highly divisive in recent times. However, amidst the polarization, it is important to identify constructive solutions that can bridge gaps and promote unity.

So much to unpack, but Peter Wood does so clearly and unhysterically. Excellent discussion. 'My truth' can only be based upon 'unconscious bias'. we used to call it 'subjectivity'.

No, it was wrecked a long time ago. Like all the rest. Is there hope?

Her parents were immigrants from Haiti. They meet while studying in NYC. Her father worked for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and her mother was a nurse. How they found the money for her to attend Phillips Exeter Academy, a private boarding school in Exeter, New Hampshire, DEI scholarships? The cost in 1985 $11,000, today $63,000.