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@قلبٌ بريءٌ Why we can't find any Arabic letters in petra. do you know when these letters were invented!? when was arab writing invented?

There is a phenomena called CONTINENTAL DRIFT. Continental drift is the theory that the Earth's continents have moved over geologic time relative to each other, thus appearing to have "drifted" across the ocean bed.

@قلبٌ بريءٌ lol, why do you think that? Did Romans know youtube?

@@brominder CONTINENTAL DRIFT Geological times are counted in million year periods, they can not explain why the pyramids are perfectly aligned while early mosques are not

@قلبٌ بريءٌ I know when you answer my question that's why I asked

Please elaborate

@@demitrijones6922 the eyes see how right the Muslims and Islam is, But the hearts don’t give in…

It usually starts from the eyes and then descends to the heart. It is not possible for the heart to be blind if the eyes can see.

And to think....all muslims bow in the WRONG direction... 😭😭😭

This research shows how dangerous it is to follow broken pieces of archaeological evidence while having little knowledge about the facts and denying reality. It is also interesting to see how they can combine information from history and even from the Quran and Sunnah to prove their theory while ignoring vast texts from the Quran, Sunnah, and Islamic history contradicting their theory. Moreover, this is a total disrespect and insult to Islamic history and the credibility of all Muslim scholars and Muslim Khalifas. This research and analysis are complete garbage, either from his ignorance or as propaganda to spread misinformation about Islam and confuse ignorant Muslims. Believing in this research will be kufr; he is saying that Allah didn't protect Islam; Muslims are praying toward the wrong Qibla and going to Hajj to the wrong place; in that case, no one is worshipping Allah. This is total kufr and clear propaganda against Islam. May Allah destroy this guy and everyone involved in this kind of propaganda against Islam.

Kudos for noticing that .

Also, if Petra is Becca .. why the Masjid Qiblatain face Mecca in Saudi Arabia (fact: Masjid Qiblatain Was Built When Prophet Muhammad is still alive)

I thought same.

Genesis 16:7 The angel of the LORD found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. Shur is a location mentioned several times in the Hebrew Bible. Scholars believe that the 'way of Shur' was located along the Wadi Tumilat - an arable strip of land to the east of the Nile delta, serving as the ancient transit route between Egypt and Canaan across the Sinai.

Zam Zam is somewhere near Wadi Tumilat, nowhere near Saudi. Near Palestine. Ibrahim is from Assam Palestine, so Wadi Tumilat is within rational walking distance, not Mecca 1500km. A woman and a young infant is not possible to walk that distance let alone the heat of the dessert. This proof that Quran is a compendium of LIES.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l8-0SAb4Rqc.htmlsi=U9X12OllMd5WTzQC Best confirmation

Oh right 👍

Prostration has literally been a form of worship across virtually every culture. Everyone and their mother bowed to their respective gods all over the world. You Muslims really think you invented the practice. 😂😂😂

Omar is the one who changed the direction of the Muslims prayer

I gave you a Quranic verse with the source and you say "Omar"!!? So, if you want to play dumb, find another place to do so. It's narrated by Abu Hurairah that the Prophet PBUH said: “Whoever believes in God and the Last Day, let him speak good or remain silent” (Authentic in Bukhari and Muslim).

:)

@@windbauram7659 true, best answers

God is great he replied to this fool before he was born 1400 years ago am just amazed by his infinite wisdom

What do you think of it

I wish id done the same.

Even when presented with crushing proof ...... Dumb, Dumbest & Dan often believe that the very proof that they are WRONG .... is a proof that they are right ..

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@@zionisthindurepublican7989 who are you referring to? Please clarify!!!

Bro this is a Zionist Christian channel. 90% of what they're saying have been has ben debunked by academics. For example, the Nabateans are 100% Arabs and spoke Arabic not Aramaic, that's agreed upon. Second the Roman province was named Arabia Petraeus nor Syrian province. Also the in the Arabic text it does not say Syria but the word Sham is used which mean the Levant. Also notice how they call everything in Palestine - "Israel", and avoid mentioning the word Palestine even though that was the name under the Romans.

Press the CC button it may help

The message is a joke and insult to western scholarship. No mainstream scholar from either the muslim or western tradition endorses this ridiculous theory.

Lies in English is enough, unless you want the Arabs to be more disgusted with white man

yes, while they were travelling around Saudi gathering all evidence, I believe the gov thought they were just random tourists or whatever....I'm sure had the Saudi gov know what they were doing, they would be imprisoned or not even let in the country.

"Deaf Dumb Blind, they will never return" Quran 2:18

Ikr. Dan missed that part. He tried

I think it's because extraterrestrials shared their knowledge with them just like they did with all other ancient civilizations and tribes all around the world. We are not alone.

@@margueritearavena2256 stay led astray

@@margueritearavena2256 Yes thats the true answer as in my research. Througout the bible theres talk of alien visitation & the book of Enoch had lots & it wasnt even in the bible.When i was younger i love Astromony & found to my suprise that the Saudis im sure it was had the greatest knowledge in civilization even better than China & planets & star systems etc were named by them wayy back in time.Where did they get the knowledge, where did anyone back then get it.And through the ages word has been passed down by mouth & carvings on rock till to this day we know it was because of visitation of other beings. Funny how time can eraze a lot of great information, burning books & missinformation etc. But we have great ppl who spend their lives on finding the real truth that others wish to hide from us but we keep finding it .Love IS the key i believe not war & murder.Have a great life

The belief system will not tolerate objective analysis.

Lol

Fatwas will get issued and examiner would be cooked for blasphemy

@@themsmloveswar3985Why are people like you so ignorant and liars and deceivers. It’s open for anyone to explore Leeann the history of Islam and even put it under the microscope. People like you are the problem in society spreading hatred.

@@nfmg1719​​⁠Why are people like you so ignorant and liars and deceivers. It’s open for anyone to explore Leeann the history of Islam and even put it under the microscope. People like you are the problem in society spreading hatred.

Right? 👍🏻

So well said!!!

وكلما تعلمت عن المسيحية شكرت الله اني مسلم 😂

More you learn about christisnity the more you become confused

I am a happy Christian especially from what I have been learning from other religions. THANK YOU JESUS. I LOVE YOU!!!

Well said bro

Thanks for the explanation. This helps in getting better clarification.

My friend please understand that I am telling you this from many years of research the black cube at mecca is a representation of Saturn worship. The cube is a representation of the prison of the titans. This is idol worship. Mohammed received much of his information from a spirit deep within a cave. This spirit is most likely a powerful jinn or demon.

Its actualy forbidden to NON-muslims !

@ The Human Experience The Truth is rarely pure and never simple.

let them be in their wilderness, they're motivated to just put all the curiosity in all Muslim readers. a waste of time.

No-one can convince us brother.Faith is not that easy thing

I ask this question with respect to all Muslims and there faith! If Mecca is the place where the 365 windows were, then they are right, its not there. That place of the 360 windows or niches is in the americas! Many of the ancient places today geographically are not the ancient place mentioned in the ancient records. Horace Butler in his book When Rocks Cry Out has shown many of the sacred ancient places temples pyramids and cities in the Americas. I know that to you i sound crazy like i was hit in the head by a large flying stone. Even the great pyramid in the ancient records said that it had stair cases and a summit at the top of it, when we clearly see that today it does not have any of those features. When you take a look at 'El Tajin' the famous pyramid of the niches in Mexico, you will be looking at that the ruins of the 360 window temple where Muhammad destroyed the idols in those windows.

@@brianglisson968 what windows?

@@kibriaali536 Well, they are more so "niches" or cubbies, than windows, where the idols were placed for veneration.. there were 360 idols that Muhammad destroyed according to the history. Each idol had its own day. And 360 Niches that were in the 'Temple of Windows' at ancient 'TaJin' in Mexico.. the "place of the Jinn" That means this temple "Temple of Windows" is the original Kaaba!! Now that begs of answers to now know that the Kaaba was in Mexico as well as these old events recorded. This was history that was deliberately destroyed and hidden yet somehow in our lifetime it was found uncovered by Horace Butler, author of 'When Rocks Cry Out'

@@DrAliWD Why there is no ruins of ancient city on the place of modern Mecca as well as why there is no evidence of agriculture?

@@Btrutaltruth ikr

***////////⚠⚠ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠⚠ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠⚠//////////**** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** ******are all prophets according to the Quran*******

Christians God is not the God of Islam, Allah was made up.

Both was made up

I don't understand why people can take Quran seriously... Maybe out of curiosity. The Quran was written in a way that it was out of order unlike the Bible. I mean ...it was not written in a chronological order...there was no order.....it was a bunch of Arabic documents put together and with Muhammad's beliefs...

@@geoffreyk6229 LOL BIBLE AND ORDER 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@The1Bozkurt1The Holy Bible was written in a well mannered order. Quran wasn't. Look at them both.

@@The1Bozkurt1Quran is just like Muhammad..F.A.K.E.

@@geoffreyk6229 DID JESUS CURSE THE FIG TREE BEFORE OR AFTER DIRIVING THE MERCHANTS FROM THE TEMPLE A-)AFTER : MATTHEW 21:12-19 B-)BEFORE : MARK 11:12-17 😂😂BIBLE AND ORDER 😂😂😂😂

Look also into the work of Dr. al-Jallad on epigraphy (rock inscriptions). It sheds light on the origins of Arabic and the type of Arabic used in the Quran, which is northern Arabic. This agree well with Gibson's findings, as well as the geographical descriptions in the Quran, which are to places much further north than Mecca. Cheers!

Nope, Gibson is lying. even secular historians believe that Petra became part of Roman empire and before Prophet (Sm) even born. So does Gibson wanna say that he born in christian society? Which also contradicts Quran. Moreover, Mecca is located in Petra, and Byzentines, Sassanids and Israelites are like "We pretend, we never heard any Muhammad (Sm) from Petra" (Although he is our enemy)

@@theastronomer5800 yes it is true that muslims are praying in the wrong direction- because that's what satan wants them to do-qabese=ka bese= in Albanian language means to COVENANT with GOD and this word QA+BESE is only in Albanian language- which means that that land is the direction the prayers should GO- the holy land and the language that was spoken with GOD- many things are hidden, the truth is very deep but who knows ALBANIAN understands what has happened ; praying to the ground and not to the SKY where GOD sits, dressing in black; going around against the spirals that GOD rotates the univers; dressing women in black like dead mummies; islam was just a business to cover the east and peoples to be divided and controlled - Alexander the Great spoke Albanian- who burnt the Library you think and WHY???!!!!

This research shows how dangerous it is to follow broken pieces of archaeological evidence while having little knowledge about the facts and denying reality. It is also interesting to see how they can combine information from history and even from the Quran and Sunnah to prove their theory while ignoring vast texts from the Quran, Sunnah, and Islamic history contradicting their theory. Moreover, this is a total disrespect and insult to Islamic history and the credibility of all Muslim scholars and Muslim Khalifas. This research and analysis are complete garbage, either from his ignorance or as propaganda to spread misinformation about Islam and confuse ignorant Muslims. Believing in this research will be kufr; he is saying that Allah didn't protect Islam; Muslims are praying toward the wrong Qibla and going to Hajj to the wrong place; in that case, no one is worshipping Allah. This is total kufr and clear propaganda against Islam. May Allah destroy this guy and everyone involved in this kind of propaganda against Islam.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-loeFN3VHCWc.html

agreed balqis

I think further research might need to be made about the Zamzam well. But my theory is that the Zamzam well would just have always be there and formed naturally. And that the story about Hajar and Ishmael about the well might be just that, stories to justify the existence of the well in an arid area that's seemingly in the middle of nowhere. And the Maqaam Ibrahim, it's a stone that has an imprint of where the prophet stood when he built the Kaaba. If theories about the stone to be the related with the Black Stone that's descended from heaven is correct. Then I think that it might be coming from the same meteorite where the Black Stone comes from. Which matches the description that it's a stone that comes from heaven which can be interpreted as fallen from the sky, in other words, a meteor. Which then we can admit that the stone is definitely not of earth origin. But this is just my baseless theory, and I think further research needs to be made about it. I am a muslim, but I don't practice my religion through blind faith. I approach my religion through scientific views and always make sense of things using common sense and with historical socio-cultural contexts.

@@NeoKingArthur this kind of confussion about the kiblah already predicted and answered in the Quran. This make me realize how amazing The Quran is. So regretful that i am not a perfect moslem, yet. Sorry bad english. 😂😂

ARE THEY TWO OIL WELLS?

Please view this explanation by Avi Lipkin, a Jew on Moses pilgrimage to Mecca at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TitVJG70piM.html

This theory has been disproved so easily and so many times, even by other orientalist that I’m honestly shocked that someone would even waste their time in creating this video. 1 hour plus video which can be refuted in like 5 minutes lol

This is amateurish garbage based on a totally debunked thesis from the 1970s.. Ancient Muslim historian accounts are extremely accurate and match very well with contemporary accounts written by Byzantines, Armenians, Copts and Syriac monks. _Hagerism_ actually did a great service to Islam and Islamic studies

Dear @rosevale3218. Consider the fact that since the conquest of Mecca by Prophet Muhammad (peace be unto Him) in 630 CE, the Kaaba has been accessible for pilgrimage and annual Hajj throughout 1400 years history since then with no break.. It is the same Kaaba that Prophet Muhammad (Peace be unto him) set foot on. That is fact not beautifully narrated theory

Today’s direction of either mosques was made later. Dan Gibson has researched that too.

After the Muslims moved to Madina, a prayer of the Prophet was accepted and Muslims were told to face Mecca instead of Palestine, so its clear enough that they faced a different direction in the early days. Read all of Islamic history then make assumptions.

MADINA mosque more than 5 times reconstructed...

Weak documentary.

@@twitterer if anything against Islam it is weak.. so funny.. weak hadeeths and weak quran, weak Muhammad and weak Allah.. But I know woman and perfumes are the weakness of Muhammad.. Brother he saying with historical and scientific evidences... so you have right to answer the same way.. God Bless you

Documentary filled with endless lies. No offence but the stupidity in your comment of thinking mosques were around before Islam 🤣🤣🤣

@@theguidancecounsellor2948 I don’t take offense from idiots. Some cities predate all religions and not just Islam, Damascus is one of those. As such, the Umayyad Mosque is an ancient site that once held a temple to the Roman God, Jupiter. The same site was later made into a synagogue, then a church, then, during the Umayyad period, it was made into a mosque. PS: before you go around calling people stupid, I suggest that you be knowledgeable, cultured, and smart enough so as not to make a fool of yourself.

@@Mrmrnobodymr I didn't call you stupid, I said your comment was because Mosques did not predate Islam. Yes the site at which the mosque is built predates Islam but as it was expanded in size and completely changed, a distinction must be made. I also don't believe Damascus predates all religion. Pretty sure the Canaanites (if you're referring to this far back) were polytheistic.

@@theguidancecounsellor2948 you contradict yourself wildly. When the site was expanded and changed, the prayer wall of the mosque faced exactly between the two cities of Mecca and Petra and still does so till this day. This proves the video correct and your first comment to be made of ignorance and completely irrelevant.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7JjSVpLSfB8.html

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l8-0SAb4Rqc.htmlsi=U9X12OllMd5WTzQC Yes, this is the proof

Regardless, there was no evidence of any city where current day Mecca is fitting the description of the city in Islam. No trees, fertile fields, or any archaeological evidence there was any city off the trade route, even on ancient Arabian maps. Where all the maps in Arabia changed? How did mecca become a desert instead of the fertile fields the Quran describes ?

@MrA If all of my claims can easily be broken down, then do it, you are obliged to disprove my claims if you have the nerve to speak. I think I have put forward a rational argument with many of my claims opposing specific parts and statements in the documentary. It seems like you haven't paid attention to the details in the documentary and probably have not read my argument carefully, it's obvious by you saying that I will talk about zamzam water, which I already did, and to your bright attention, I have not claimed that the Quran mentions zamzam, as it does not need to mention zamzam, it's presence is a scientific fact. The Quran does not say there are olive trees in Mecca, this is the verse: “By the fig and the olive; By Mount Sinai; By this City of Security (Makkah)” this verse does not make a claim that there are figs and olives in Makkah nor on mount Sinai, it's an oath to those fruits because first of all they are very beneficial to the human body, secondly, figs and olives were known to the Arabs of Makkah because they were widely traded commodities. As a matter of fact, any commercial produce which was available in Petra - Palestine - Levant area, you could have also found in the markets of Makkah because there were merchants trading these goods. The prophet Mohammed had also travelled to the Levant in his youth as a merchant, people of Makkah were familiar with many fruits and products such as olive oil. Anyhow your understanding of history is very shallow, which explains why you would believe a clumsily prepared documentary like this one, I guess it was aimed at an audience of your caliber. Go read some history books, Mr.self proclaimed donkey genius

How do you know the translation was deliberately wrong?

@@michael7324 probably because he is an arab and knows classical Arabic?

@@xondeez757Hi XON, Im sure a lot of people speak the language. My question is why does he think it is deliberate? He can not know the translators intent.

@@michael7324 Arabs know what classical arab means.

Response to Dan Gibson Claim that Ibn Al Zubair moved Al Kaaba from Petra to Mecca Episode 1 of 11 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-24JX2aeNiaU.html

Ibn zubayr did what in 690 AD? Care to explain further? You should read the real history of qibla direction change. Muhammad and the early Muslims in Medina initially prayed towards Jerusalem, and changed the qibla to face the Kaaba in Mecca in 624 CE.

Lol facts because they not agreeing on nothing

There was no Sunni & Shia in the days of prophet Mohammad PBUH Go correct your knowledge first

@@wakdoj bro did you even watch the documentary ? lol

Catholicism, Islam, Zoroastrianism, Judaism: they all survived over a thousand years. It's a long time but it doesn't say anything about veracity. It's quite imaginable that the Qibla could be moved if you were only roughly supposed to face it and weren't required to face it 100% accurately 🤷‍♀️

Turn around. Look at what Muhammad prophesied.. Find nothing...he was NOT A PROPHET.

Please view this video by Dr Shabir Ali on Dan Gibson's qibla at the link on the right; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rxv_QTMWTro.html

I guess anyone that protested met a knife in the back afterall the ruler's words were ultimate back then pretty much everywhere in the world, unlike today.

@@Vengeance22 lol so how did you know that everyone who protested got killed? Sources right? The where are the sources that say anything about the change or the protest? Exactly nothing it's all in your imagination

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7JjSVpLSfB8.html.

U want a 🥇?

The crescent moon and the black stone the Muslims walk round at Mecca are from the pre Muslim religion, when the people of Arabia and Iraq worshipped the moon. These symbols were absorbed into Islam.Mohammed travelled with his uncle around Arabia and Across into Egypt. He picked up Jewish and Christian teaching when he visited Synagogues and churches, but neither the Jews nor the Christians would let him convert to their religion, from worshipping the Moon God, so he started his own religion -- Islam. He incorporated the teachings he had heard into his own teachings. Non of his followers could read and write so it was important that his followers learned his teachings by heart. Even today Jewish children learn the Law (the first 5 books of the Bible )off by heart , when they go to Hebrew classes after school. The Quaran was codified 250 years after the time of Mohammed ,and there were 8 ancient copies written on vellum ,rather than papyrus . One of these ancient codices is in Cairo and the other is in Baghdad. The other 6 have not survived. The earliest Jewish Scroll dates from 100 years before Christ ,and individual books of the New Testament date from the late 1st century and 2nd century AD. All 3 of these religions had a long tradition of scribes faithfully copying the sacred texts, until the art of printing was invented. The Christian scribes did not only copy the Old and New testaments. They also copied Greek and Roman poetry ,plays and historical documents. There are over 5ooo copies of ancient New Testament books .

It's filled with lies.

yeah vids amazong how a group of peopls dedicated in debunking their religion.. fascinating

You are clearly missing the point though. If Muslims were told to "change the qiblas" and then they build so many mosques pointing towards a specific point, and this point is not Mecca, what does that tell you about early Islamic history.

@@theastronomer5800The mosques were not pointing in any particular direction, but were just built facing random directions each, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KLIUCrd5hG4.html

I understand your point of view, and largely agree. However, I don’t believe this documentary was made with the purpose of being offensive to Muslims. I think the researcher is simply trying to clarify inconsistencies in early Islamic history. I certainly do not take his claims at face value, but it is an interesting theory.

Ehh. We never changed directions. Explain zam zam well, city of medina. Etc mecca is filled with homes and graves and mosques of the prophet's time.

it's also an inintentinal sin to pray in the wrong way, same thing in christianity

this is what happens when you dont understand arabic yet you judge like he expert you are not

Nope, Gibson is lying. even secular historians believe that Petra became part of Roman empire and before Prophet (Sm) even born. So does Gibson wanna say that he born in christian society? Which also contradicts Quran. Moreover, Mecca is located in Petra, and Byzentines, Sassanids and Israelites are like "We pretend, we never heard any Muhammad (Sm) from Petra" (Although he is our enemy)

Kudos. Very good answers.

Good

not a good comparison they did. yet again ho w can he claimed being an historian without speaking about evidence and studying the linguistic before tried to understand Quran?

All Religion is man made with medieval mentality , nothing wrong with that , they were the times . We need to move forward with science and reason . Faith is a just not enough . That’s trickery at its finest .

All Religion is man made with medieval mentality , nothing wrong with that , they were the times . We need to move forward with science and reason . Faith is a just not enough . That’s trickery at its finest .

This should kill your "emaan" right here....Jesus Yeshua who lived a whopping 700 years before the quran+hadiths said that 👉He is The Truth👈 Sooooooo, who do you think is lying, Jesus or muhammad?

What? What truth?

Jesus is the one who claimed to be "The Truth" 👈 a whopping 700 years before the false cult of Islam came around.

Only lies and more and more lies. Without it islam dies

The black rock was a diety the ancient pagan arabs used to worship

Hristiyanlar aşırı yalan söyleme yeteneğine sahiptir , kutsal kitapları İncil'i 6.000 ayrı şekilde yazdılar , yalana asla doymaz bir hristiyan😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

مكة البتراء وبكة القدس

No history of peeps in mecca

❤notice the doorways "larger made for "giants"

Makkah is not Petra, the descriptions do not match

I found the answer.. it's in the Qurán, There was a different location as a test to see who will follow the prophet.. Some American wrongly joined a Quranist cult, then left it and studied Islam properly, he learned how to pray and that there was a different location.. Here is where he mentions it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pnkLvJHi5h8.html start at timestamp 40 minutes

You like an idea that does not exist and is incorrect, and your source is RU-vid😂

Its a vile cult

Since the conquest of Mecca by Prophet Muhammad in 630 CE, the Kaaba has been accessible for pilgrimage throughout history since then.. It is the same Kaaba that Prophet Muhammad (Peace be unto him) set foot

Good day/night Sir, does your book not say the following And to Allah belongs the east and the west. So wherever you (2:115 And please according to Muslims the Quran is written very simple. so that whoever reads it can understand.

Hello@@henrypacquette1489, I hope you are well, and thank you for your question(s). Yes, it does say so, I believe I even referenced it (2:115) in my original response above. It was added to highlight the point that Dan's whole production is moot due to the fact that God doesn't need a direction to be reached, rather the direction is for our unity as a people, among other things. Not sure I understand your second point/question. The message is easy to understand yes, "Belief in One God, and serve God by serving life". That's pretty much the crux. A child can understand this, but then Islam also caters to the deep thinkers that can take it to a scholarly level. So hamdillah it covers both spectrums. Not sure if that's what you are looking for, but you are more than welcome to ask anything you want :) Good day

I learned more from this comment than in the documentary lol

This comment is worth reading than to waste time on documentary which obviously tries to fool people. Don't let anyone shake your belief, these are the propaganda of shayatin to deviate to create confusion but we should have faith coz faith is the base of our deen..

1) if bekka comes from (ب ك ك) it would be (بككة). therefore bekka comes from (ب ك ي) so it can make the word (بكة) + the meaning makes sense than (ب ك ك). God said the quran was explained and detailed (Sourat 41:3 for example) so the meaning of بكة based on its root (ب ك ي) makes perfect sense. 2) God said that he sent down Torah, Injeel and Psalms, and sent the Quran as a discernment (Sourat 3:3 - 3:4 for example). So as a believer, we must read those books in their original language and use Quran to detect problematic verses. in the case of the chapter 84 of Psalms, this chapter confirms what God sent before because both books talk about the valley of Bekkah. Therefore, for a Quranic believer, the chapter 84 of Psalms verse 6 and 7 are correct. 3) why didn't you write the whole verse? Abraham tells god that he established his family in an uncultived valley and he demand him to provide his family with trees of fruits. Abraham came before Mohamed so if God accepted Abraham demand and blessed his family with trees of fruits, then when Mohamed was born those trees were already here. 4) those verses doesn't prove your point in anyway??? they don't even mention Mekka it only describes how the believers were persecuted. Thus, Dan Gibson has solid elements to prove that masjid al haram is in Petra. But, nothing proves that this Masjid al haram was in Mekka so why do you use these verses pretending that it was happening in Mekka without any proof? 5) Nothing proves that God in the Quran named the city that is called today "Mekka" to be named Mekka. you say you're a believer yet you assume stuff about God without anything to support it, if you're a true believer then stop your shirk by pretending that you know what God is doing. "Millions of people come to mekkah so it is definitely a sacred city". Dan explained with evidence why people started to go to mekka have you even watch the video? your arguments doesn't make any sense you just assume stuff based on your own personal thoughts the Abraham example doesn't support anything of what you said. 6) If you're a true believer stop lying about God! God made us a Qibla towards Masjid al haram and told us to turn to its direction (Sourat 2:144 it is even used in this video! And you even used it in your commentary! Why are you lying!). in Sourat 2:115 Actually God says where ever you are where ever you turn God is here and everywhere. God is actually telling us that he is everywhere and knows everything and everything that happens. Again why are you lying! 7) Lemme laugh a bit i'll be right back. Your argument makes absolute no sense! STOP LYING God never told us to face the city that is currently called "Mekka" . STOP assuming stuff about God when God himself never talked about it. Stop your blasphemy! Stop your lies! Open your mind and use your brain! This documentary is a tresor for people who seek knowledge! You're the fooled one!

You and others on the social networks promote lies and skepticism to obscure historical facts, in order to serve the evil Zionist dreams of enslaving the largest number of ignorant people. You talk about the Prophet in Islam and the Kaaba and flounder right and left. You reached India and Buddha, trying to narrate the lies in a convincing way for us to believe them. We must To know that the history of the Prophet Muhammad is linked to his family and companions, whose stories are full of books in detail. As for the Kaaba, the history of the Arabs speaks about every inch of the Arabian Peninsula, and every stone has a story, a poem, a battle, and a wisdom, Do not try to talk about what does not concern you and you are ignorant of what is in it. It is a strange thing to learn our history from someone who does not have his own

Haha, nice one! On the real though, I think there is a huge disconnect for any Muslim that learned objectively. Things just don't connect. Don't know if the video is right... But it connects way better than the agenda we have today.

@@aliyuolalekan8276 I’m born and raised muslim , I’m sorry to disappoint you but this video was lie . Quran has never been edit or any change ( word of god ) and we people we know it and we use it on our daily routine. Simply this’s video mentioned the story against Quran’s story

Hhhhhhhhhhhh

@@K-noise. If it was the words of God, should not you follow every word?

@@K-noise. lie or not has nothing to do with your birth and the way you were raised, I'm also not sure you've read it.. If the Quran is not the same as history, then which one is wrong? All I know is: history and fact is very stubborn

It’s in Mecca where Kaaba is.

Masjid Al-Haram is not in Petra.

Bro, There is a water passage in petra where the Zamzam would flow, this water still appears in petra even today but it's rare!

@@thelegando4281 , I will repeat again. Zamzam water’s location in Al-Haram. Whatever is in Jordan it’s not zamzam. You can’t just call any water zamzam…

​@@Hums916 Zamzam means flowing water, not a well.

It's all about today's age which is full of lies. Quran it self says Mecca had no water and food While this guy claims Quran says it was cultivated.

@@qinshihuang7576 whats your point?

@@user-zt9ts6vq4m my point is Allah says in Quran Surah Ibrahim while telling the story of Abraham that "Our Lord, I have settled some of my descendants in an uncultivated valley near Your sacred House, our Lord, that they may establish prayer. So make hearts among the people incline toward them and provide for them from the fruits that they might be grateful". While he claims in this documentary that according to Quran they were settled in a cultivated valley which is Petra. But in reality Quran gives us a different story.

@@user-zt9ts6vq4m why was fruit available in Mecca because the Quraish tribe were merchants. And Mecca is also the place where most people use to come after escaping the Roman empire. A slave and also the companion of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) named Suhayb Ar Rumi is a one such example. If he escaped to Petra I think he should've been dead and even Islam should've been crushed by the Roman Emperor.

This video is made to *DESTROY* Islamic History.. The point in this research is that *the original Qibla is Petra,* not Mecca & not Al Aqsa with Evidence : There are several Old Mosques facing their Qibla to Petra (Data Defect) IN FACT, to judge whether Mecca is now in accordance with the Qur'an or not, it is Very Very Easy : *1. Is there a tomb of the prophet Abraham near the Kaaba ?* *2. Is there a spring of Zam-Zam whose water never runs out ? (in Petra there is none)* Very Very Easy. *Don't Be Fooled.* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W-B2KBZQxuw.html id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27bah

First off Petra was not Mecca this guy Gibson is in total error guessing. He is guessing because he knows that modern day Mecca is not ancient Mecca. So he trying to guess at an important place that it could be. But he is wrong. He is right that modern Mecca and ancient Mecca are not the same place. The descriptions do not fit modern Mecca. Modern Jerusalem also is not ancient Jerusalem and they have not found any of the biblical stone cities. These place dont just disappear. And its not that they disappeared, they were never there, but some where else. These cities were hidden including the ancient biblical cites and Mecca. When you read the book When Rocks Cry Out by Horace Butler you will see where these stones cities still stand in the americas! Yes, it sounds impossible but the proof is having the stone cities! If you cant find the ancient stone cities and historical monuments like the Kaaba then you don't have the ancient geographic locations of these places.

@@brianglisson968 well said.

@@brianglisson968 You’re saying that precolumbian ruins in the Americans are actually biblical locations? How high are you dude?

@@kill_em_dafoe Thats Horace Butler's research that he found and wrote about, in HIS book 'When Rocks Cry Out' not mine. Read that book first then you can talk about it. Right now you have NO idea and dont have the knowledge to even argue against or for it! You dont know that Adam is not the first man in existence but the first of the creation of the Egyptian Empire after he gathered and combined the scattered groups/tribes to defeat his own real fathers empire. You also have no idea that Cain and Abel are the other names for Khonsu and Bel(Ausar) and that they are the sons of Amen their father who is 'Ed'Amen, "ADAM" You dont know that when the biblical records states that Jerusalem was in a high Mountain surrounded about. that those hills over their in todays so called Jerusalem are not it. So yes, modern ancient egypt that was built after they left and fled the Americas, on its walls and records are talking about their dawn and beginnings in South America where Amens temple was in the high mountains of Peru.

Avi Lipkin the Jewish historian claimed that Prophet Moses did pilgrimage to Mecca in his book "Return to Mecca" which was in the Arabian deserts. He also claimed Jethro was the high priest of the Cube / Ka"aba and Moses was married to Jethro's daughter. The Phylacteries that Orthodox Jews put on their heads or arms are replicas of the Cube/ Ka'aba. The time of his pilgrimage was during the Israelites' sojourn in the Arabian desert for 38 years followed by 2 years in the deserts just to the east of Jordan River. Please google for the image of the phylactery.

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“I believe that since he cannot go there as a non-Muslim he created his own Mecca.” Also you: “… I’ve watched this with an open mind …” ☺️

@@kierenmoore3236 wouldn't finish it at all if I had a close mind. He basically says for thousands of years Muslims were idiots and worshipped the wrong place...

Very good brother. I've made a rebuttal to this video on my channel to show his blatant deceit.

The map that he drew, was he eluding to the "Ottoman Empire" ? How come Spain was also put into this too ?

@@theguidancecounsellor2948 where?

True

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the book burning -- i'm still in mourning after all these centuries. i week for the information, the knowledge that we lost.

Maybe it might make you happy to know Dan fabricated that whole thing amongst other things.

@@theguidancecounsellor2948 :sigh:

there are many water wells in Petra....

Research yourself. Try to investigate and ask question. This religion has literally made people brain dead.

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I have always faced McDonalds when I prayed & have now been blessed with type 2 diabetes

Haa

@@carpecervisiam9366 LMFAOOOO WTF

dang

Look at the comments. So much confidence combined with so little knowledge leads to lots of stupid comments. :-D

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@@harriskhan7671 hahaha but he forgot taef

@@prenom8793 jazakallah

He also forgot to mention Badar and Ohad mentioned in Quran the land marks where the battles were fought. Also Zam Zam spring where is that in Petra. And what about the cave of Thaur near Mecca. Did prophet migrate to Madina from Petra? His enemies came from all the way from Petra to fight him near Madina. What about the conquest of Mecca, did prophet all the way back to Petra to conquer it? As for compiling the Quran. There were only 10 subscribes of Quran called Ashra bubashra who wrote down revelations as soon they were revealed to Prophet and none else was allowed to write down Quran, not even the Ahdith (the sayings of Prophet) were allowed to be written so that it was not mixed with Quran. Mosques built far away from Kaaba couldn't be so accurate because there was no technology to for accurate direction. The error in direction of older mosques is due to the curvature of Earth hence they all face same point at Petra.

no old walls no figs no olives

they use false logic to mislead us as if we are facing the wrong qibla. Indeed, it is an act of Satan (Deceit - Talbis) to confuse Muslims. The evidence that is claimed is widely distorted and spam. one of the proofs is that he does not include where the water of zam-zam and hills of shafa and marwah are located.

Interesting but...

@@blorac9869 of If E your week AA

His work is very interesting. I recommend reading his book "Quranic Geography". What he says is not that new though as it is supported by other evidence and a long time ago scholars started to notice for example that the linguistics and geography of the Quran does not agree with the Mecca region. If you're interested in the history, two excellent books are Early Islam by Ohlig and The Hidden Origins of Islam by Ohlig & Puin. They contain many fascinating works within!

@@blorac9869 There is always a but when the answer you get is not what you think or told. the evidence is strong he is right like all holy books there is always changes to suit the leader of the time in the early years maybe in today's world specifically over the last twenty plus years.

And the stream "weeps" though the crack. Double entendre ftw

I AM The Daughter Of Heavenly Hosts

You probably smoke alotta “Bekka” then 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@dennissettlemyre917 Do I know you?

@@ross3818 தி,

I agree with you

@Jeriba Shigan zenith

@Jeriba Shigan North.

Stupid comment

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Australians?

This video is made to *DESTROY* Islamic History.. The point in this research is that *the original Qibla is Petra,* not Mecca & not Al Aqsa with Evidence : There are several Old Mosques facing their Qibla to Petra (Data Defect) IN FACT, to judge whether Mecca is now in accordance with the Qur'an or not, it is Very Very Easy : *1. Is there a tomb of the prophet Abraham near the Kaaba ?* *2. Is there a spring of Zam-Zam whose water never runs out ? (in Petra there is none)* Very Very Easy. *Don't Be Fooled.* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W-B2KBZQxuw.html id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27bah

What?? we never said mecca had any agriculture or trees. Also, if the prophet peace be upon him and his household, his wife, his father, and his grandfather were merchants, doesn't that mean that Mecca was full of merchants and thus was on the trade routes??

Yup, that's the issue that all blind slaves of Al-Lah face. Their brains have been shut down for sooooooo long, that abrogation and Bid'ah makes more sense to them then going back to the source of origin when it comes to historical facts. 🙄 That is why there's no point in digging or questioning for them.😔

them, they their :)

what proof is there, forget about everything you wrote about muslims and forget that probably the 10 most bloody wars has nothing to do with them but what proof do you have about having a problem with science and blindlessy following things, considering the islamic nations had been the centre of science for centuries and in the quran there is mentioning that heavens and earth were joined together which science proved and mentioning that all living things are made of water which science has proved and mentioning that allah has sent down iron(from the heaven) which science has proven and another verse where allah says he has built the heaven and he is making it expand which science has proven and another verse talking about the development of the embryo inside its mother womb and there are verses that could be understood to imply that earth is shaped like an egg and another that has been understood that the sun makes its own light while the moons doesn't and this could go on so what is the thing with science posing a challenge to our belief?

Yep, fight and kill for the sake of a man-made story

What you just said is a total ignorance.

Wow...we’re experiencing a digital book burning now

@@MelaninMagdalene yes ma'am we certainly are....and many people who can afford it are buying up print books.....because the more we entrust our "books" to kindle and such, the more chance we have of losing all our books suddenly. We are already not allowed to SAY what we want on line.....oh yes, they'd love to take our books.....and create the dark ages once again...🤦‍♀️

They are not interest in the worldly life,they are interest to spread the word of God,the Qur'an.to save the human to the punishment of hellfire after death.

@@nixonbayabao4613 good to know......👏🏼

@@nixonbayabao4613 Well, unfortunately there are MILLIONS of people in the middle east who live in poverty and terrible conditions. Since allah has not provided for his followers, perhaps they should have other interests to provide for themselves?

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@@harriskhan7671 you expect me to open a fake youtube link?

This ‘documentary’ is based on false information and assumptions. Please read this article: muslimheritage.com/the-petra-fallacy/

@@jalilm.9668 face it you been lied to now grow from that knowledge

Except that he is wrong and this is why: He almost fooled me until he started misquoting hadiths. And to my surprise his “documentary” is full of deception that most non-Muslims won’t notice. For any one that is interested you can watch this video which debunked this theory ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m3u6kLktY0k.html

Fastest growing? You mean fastest breeding... According to studies, 99.7% of growth is from high birth rates (Muslims have the highest fertility rate of any religious group) and only 0.3% comes from conversions. Studies also show that most converts leave after a few years. However, because of increasing prosperity, the birth rates are going down :) According to data from the United Nations, Muslim fertility rate has declined from an average of 6.4 births per woman in 1970 to 2.9 births per woman in 2020 (global average was 2.4 in 2020) and the trend continues as people become more educated and have less children, however, the decline in Muslim birth rates has been slower than that of other religious groups. If you look in some Muslim countries, Iran being a good example as it's over 99% Muslim on paper, the majority of people don't even believe in god. In surveys done in Iran over 60% of people don't believe in any god, more for the educated young people. Islamic clerics are lamenting about avalanches of apostasy, things that you ignore. A 2017 Pew Research Center survey of U.S. Muslims, using slightly different questions than the 2014 survey, found a similar estimate (24%) of the share of those who were raised Muslim but have left Islam. Among this group, 55% no longer identify with any religion. The number is increasing as more become educated...

@@theastronomer5800no he means fastest growing

@@theastronomer5800growing and breeding lol. What’s wrong with breeding?

​@theastronomer5800 he meant growing. I converted.im Mexican

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Serkan Vurusan Enjoy it while it still exists. Islam may well be gone in a couple of decades..

@@jaronimo1976 your predecessor told that thousands of Years ago & tried that but you know very well what we did to them ... Try to talk something new bro..

@@jaronimo1976 according to Wikipedia: Islam is the fastest-growing major religion in the world.....

Do not take these conspiracy theorists like DG too seriously Just laugh them out 😁😂

Indeed... You're definitely right with that last part

Wow! That's a lot of splanning, Sir!

I totally agree that this video is so misleading, or perhaps he was misunderstood. For the direction of praying, what actually matters is the location of Kaabah, not the city it was in. Kaabah was not built because Mecca was chosen by Prophet Muhammad as a Holy city of Islam, but rather the city was built around Kaabah itself. Not only Kaabah, but also the location of Zam Zam well, the Tomb of Ibrahim, etc.

The founding father of modern sociology 😂 Is that why we have so many rainbows these days?

@@r.l.9986 I think you meant psychology not sociology.. do your research my friend

Watch - The life of Mohammed (According to Islamic sources)

Hahaha fake 🤣🤣 sad

The cultural and political implications of this being even partially true would be earth-shattering! It would cause 1000 years of Islamic history to be questioned. Was this just a mistake in interpretation, or was it a lie told deliberately to create a geopolitical narrative? Very interesting theory.

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This ‘documentary’ is based on false information and assumptions. Please read this article: muslimheritage.com/the-petra-fallacy/

Exactly what I wrote 👍

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@@Babycakes_2001 This video is made to *DESTROY* Islamic History.. The point in this research is that *the original Qibla is Petra,* not Mecca & not Al Aqsa with Evidence : There are several Old Mosques facing their Qibla to Petra (Data Defect) IN FACT, to judge whether Mecca is now in accordance with the Qur'an or not, it is Very Very Easy : *1. Is there a tomb of the prophet Abraham near the Kaaba ?* *2. Is there a spring of Zam-Zam whose water never runs out ? (in Petra there is none)* Very Very Easy. *Don't Be Fooled.* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W-B2KBZQxuw.html id.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27bah

Amazing explanation to what Muslim scholars neglected for hundreds of years! Bravo!

fake video and full of lies

Muslims ignore this. I've also made a rebuttal to this documentary on my channel if you're interested in the other side. Then you can critique fairly

He researched the truth for u. Otherwise, create your own documentry with scientific basis, arheologically speaking. I will wait you for that.

Yeah especially since this is nonsense Good work indeed

Let me start by the end of the video to give an answer to Timeline’s question why no scholar give damn about answering the theory depicted in the video: no need for a Muslim scholar to debunk it. It’s too wild theory to be taken seriously by a Muslim scholar. Do you need a history scholar to debunk a theory of moving Jerusalem from a place to another without leaving a several traces in nations history records? Such an event will be stored in the countries records for which this city (Mekka or Jerusalem) matters, whether from the communities for which these cities are holy or from their enemies or from their allies. Don’t you find it more than obvious? - “Makka was not mentioned before in history till the 6 or 7th century” quote like this one is just outrageous et non-sense : Mekka was known as Mekoba by the ancient Greek at least from the time of Ptolemy in the 2nd Century. - Makka is known in the history of Arabs as city within an entourage where each place got a name till now (mountains, caves Hiraa’e, cave of Thawr, Safaa, Marwa, roads, entries, ...). All these names are the same from ancient arab poetry to the written record of islamic history to the popular knowledge of people inhabiting Makk, the Hijaz region and the Arabic peninsula. Changing from Petra to Makka is not that easy. Moreover, this would have been a historical event which can be compared in terms of importance to the first revelation of Quran to the Prophet. It’s too holy to be changed like this without tough reaction from Muslims from all around the world. Remember the size of the Arabs empire at this time. No county was able to record such profanation. - Moroccan Mosques that were built more than 20 years ago give a prayer direction with a small angle of error like the ones shown in the documentary. All the new mosques with the arrival of the adoption and democratization of Mekka-direction compass, are directed toward Mekka with much more precision. It’s the same in other countries I travelled too. So it’s not a new discovery. Ask any muslim about this and they’ll confirm you that. - Did any historian talk about the Abyssinian invasion of Petra to destroy the Ka’ba? Never ever. For 2 reasons, there was no Ka’ba in Petra. Secondo, The Abyssinian invasion of the Arabic peninsula in the mid of the 6th century AD was targeting Mekka to destroy the holy city of Arabs and force them to adopt the Christian religion (a major church was built by Abyssinian in Yemen meant to replace the holiness of Ka’ba). This historical event is very known by the Arabs who were questioned in Quran about the intervention of God to safeguard the holy city of Mekka (to tell them that the God sending revelation to Muhammed is the same God of the Holy city, the same God of Abraham…). - The destruction of Quran copies by Othman : the guy tells what suits his theory but let me tell you what he omits: After the death of the Prophet, the 1st Calif Abu Bakr decided to compile the Quran in the order learnt by the Companions from the Prophet. With Omar, the future 2nd Calif, they assigned the mission to a Companion known for his mastering of the Quran in the life of the Prophet (and he was not alone, thousands of those who lived and supported the Prophet knows at least good parts of it by heart). The methodology was strict: they gathered first from the Revelation copyists the supports and materials on which they wrote the verses from the Prophet mouth, then they gathered the best companions who had learnt the Quran by heart and double check what they can recite with what is written in the support and cross-checked the recitations and the quran written supports. The revelation Copyists were Prophet companions in charge of writing down what was revealed to the Prophet each time it happened, they were called together by the Prophet to record it, each-one should write it down on any support he was able to afford - leather, wood, flat rock…Then these materials were stored in the houses of theses Copyists (blockchain principle : to have several distributed copies). We should underline here that the order of verses was taught by the Prophet to the Companions and Quran was given the utmost importance to be learnt by heart with the recitation rules taught by the Prophet. At the end of this process, Abu Bakr and Omar made a complete Quran checked and approved by the closest Companions to the Prophet, this Quran was considered as the Reference and was stored in the house of Hafsa one of the wives of the Prophet (daughter of the 2nd Calif Omar). It’s been stored till Othman the 3rd Calif would need it and then comes what he narrated. Othman did the best solution to make all the Quran copies used by the countries of the large Islamic empire identical to the one stored in the Medina as the Reference : he destroyed the old copies gathered from countries and gave them copies from the Reference. Is there any other solution better than this one to preserve the integrity of the Quran copies? The guy in the video tries through omissions to shade doubts on the Quran authenticity. But why doesn’t he tell the whole story? The Quran is the only religious book known by heart by tens of millions of people on earth since 14th centuries no other book got this preservation control from tampering. I my self know the third of the Quran (20+ Hizb). The Birmingham Quran manuscript, the oldest Quran pages found ever, dated to almost the time of the Prophet proved 100% that the Quran was not tampered : 0 difference between this manuscript and the Quran copies I have home. - He said that grapes were fruit not common in Mekka but common in Petra : don’t he know that Taif which is 40 miles from Mekka provide such fruit to the holy city? That some wealthy from Mekka at the time of the Prophet got agricultural lands there. There’s in Bukhari book (that he used a lot to choose what to tell to defend his theory) a story about the Prophet going there to ask for the support of Taif’s population leaders, they refused and chased him with stones till his legs got bloody. He hid in a garden where a slave brought him a bunch of grapes the very fruit that the guy used as proof it does not exist in Mekka. Moreover, thanks to its flourishing trade Mekka was wealthy and God in Quran remind the non-believers of Mekka in a chapter of Quran of that gift He bestowed on them. Moreover, “A city in a valley without plantations or agriculture” this is the description of Mekka by Abraham in a verse of the Quran narrating the story of him leaving his 2nd wife and her baby Ishmael in this Valley on the order of God/ALLAH. You can read in the Old Testament that God promised Abraham to make from this baby descendants a great nation. This nation, Arabs, knows the greatness once: thanks to Mohammed the Prophet and the Quran. Big Empire, one of the biggest, big civilization, proof for Atheists of God intervention in Human history. - Last but not least: The destruction by Arabs of the Alexandria library!? First, the library suffered several fires since it was founded in the 3rd century BC, when the Arabs came the library had suffered long centuries of negligence by the newly Christian roman empire who was no more interested in the pagan philosophy. Papyrus was the main material used for the books of this library and it made them fragile and can’t survive long years if they are not copied regularly. The books were already ruined and useless. Fire was better than throwing them in the Nile, the same Arabs helped promote the sciences from the Greek, Persian and Indian heritage the years after. Secondly Egypt was conquered with minimum battles because the small Muslim army managed to sign peace or submission treaty that protected the rights and the privileges of the Egyptian Copt and Christians. For these last, the library and its books were worthless because no Christian care about it and it's no more financed to me maintained in good condition. I would cite more proves than that, I tried to be as much concise as I can. I think it should be enough for the purpose of answering the last Timeline’s request of Muslim scholars to use their right to answer. Let them focus on other important subjects 😉

@@mhikeefuentes2073 then this is ur answer. ru-vid.com/group/PLEJMLhtoQWIRXK9o-hv6eyNXxUpEeb5X_

jzakallah

30 years of waste ...🤣🤣

It is not wasted but intelligently invested to get a lots of money from the anti Muslim and anti religious groups to print his lies ..this is how the western media usually works on Fake News

@@Glashutte1900 rightly said thank you

A wasted time of his life.

also MASJID means the place of sejoud (prayer) not "Gathering" as he twisted it.

Look Islam is flawless religion that has never changed for centuries so a fellow human being with lots of flaws tells me otherwise i find this appalling realy,Muslims will ignore this particular chapter of your version of mecca. Sorry.

What is the evidence this statement?

..great idea.. to solve the case which direction is the actual qiblat.. masjid nabawi..one of the mosque need to be add in the actual mecca case..if its facing petra..than as what is claimed history need to be rewright..😞😞😞😞

Brothers watch AL MUDARABAH channel on yt It has exposed dan completely

Allaahu akbar this was the most clearest of evidences 😆 Even you can see the graves of the sahaabah on their right is the direction of Makkah.

@@ayazuddinqureshi602 thanks

No actually we need to check masjids between Jerusalem and Petra. The older qibla was toward Jerusalem. Jerusalem is near to petra. So if a mosque between Mecca and Petra points towards Petra, it may actually meant to be pointed towards Jerusalem. So , before the qibla changed, we should check those mosques in between Petra and Jerusalem

You are ignorant of islamic history so you agree with Dan Gibson theory. In the early years of islamic history some of Muhamed's followers migrated to Ethopia which was across the Red Sea near present day Mecca because of persecution by Meccan. This cannot fit the Geography of Petra because Ethopia was thousand of kilometres south-west of Petra and the journey was torturous. So clearly Muhamed could not be from Petra.

@@mohamedsallehwari5309 you are not good at reading English..let alone understand it..😂😂😂

Anyone who believes in something they cannot see and always makes excuses for it....is someone living ( out of their mind ).. and every form of religious dogma has proven this in human history..1000%

you choose to (believe) in youtube theory by the way history doesn't care about people believe you can see record of enemies of profit Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم but you just [believe theory on RU-vid] Islam isn't blind faith there evidences for each event. this guy just wake up and mad theory with no evidence

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Holes in the Islam narrative has now been proven to be an under statement 😂

Right? I don't feel like watching the video now 😐

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@@foxycinnamon7307 even in RU-vid app?

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Well gives example of our little knowledge and do I care no.i live in this century of advancement equality and would hopefully kick superstition back to Middle Ages eg running around Metroid enclosed by black stone millions feel need to run around the god I believe in do not expect me do that but prey in my heart

@@carolewilson1311 Spot on, Carole. To a greater degree these discussions have much less to do with the Spiritual plane of our being and more to do with ego-gratification concerning who has discerned the ideal religious practice. For years I sought to engage with insightful people concerning individual development of our Spiritual nature. IMHE I have found that there is no such community as true Spiritual growth is an incredibly individual and personal endeavor. Every now and then I cross paths with this or that seeker though these intersects are usually short lived. FWIW

@Tony King your religion cristionarity and hinduism is a cult you idiot filled with nonsense

@@DanishKhan-vu5je your religion cristionarity and hinduism is a cult you idiot filled with nonsense same is true for your paganism, dear muhamedan so let's all happily DISrespect each others beliefs because all beliefs admit that all OTHER beliefs are wrong

I believe we need population control to all of civilizations as means of conservation and future perseverance

I've made a rebuttal to this documentary, if you're interested in the defensive side.

first of all Zamzam is not fundamental .. no mention of it in Quran. The stories of Zamzam well written 200-1000 years later.

@@kingofheartsxyz It’s very fundamental. Mecca exist only because of this well whatever you call it.

@@mirzasofyan Why there are no ancient ruins ? why no ancient documents validating Makkah ? Why no Quran , Hadith or any islamic document from Mohammad's era to the first 100 to 200 years. You have zero evidence and then the early Qiblas dont agree with you. What else you have to say ?

@@kingofheartsxyz right

@@kingofheartsxyz you wont find ancient ruins in Madina either. 1400 years is not that old for people to indulge in birth place of an entire new way of life, not just religion and then mix up as to where it all began.