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Part 2 of my layout re-build. Wiring in the control power. How to save money on Main buss loop and drops, and first run ever on this layout with both flavors! DCC wiring for beginners
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@ecidaho
@ecidaho Год назад
Christie Brinkley. This is the best explanation of how to wire up a layout i have seen or read! Thanks so much Ron!! A very big help!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
You are correct once again! But between you and me I could have put up a picture of her from a week ago and people would still know who she is. Glad you found the vid helpful :-)
@ecidaho
@ecidaho Год назад
@@classicmodeltrains LOL yes your are correct regarding Christie. I agree with Marc’s comments. This was the easiest video I have seen to understand not just DC vs DCC controls, but just wiring in general. It totally different to see how you approached wiring than reading or many others videos, very clear and understandable! Thanks again!
@andyhinds542
@andyhinds542 2 месяца назад
I totally agree! I can remember that after watching only once.
@_mdh_1998
@_mdh_1998 Год назад
I’m very happy you made this video Ron! A lot of people have made countless videos on this subject for years. But I managed to understand this much better than most of those. Magazine articles only go so far into describing this process and I’ve have always been somewhat stupid with electronics and track wiring side of things. But now I have a pretty good idea of what I want to put on my module set up and tracks. I’ll need to find a good solution to breaking the track up and getting it to stay together and good electrical plugs and stuff. But I’m glad I understand this now. A layout I bought some years ago was pretty much completed and had this exact system wired on it as well as so much more like a operational turn table I absolutely loved to use, it had a balloon loop and wired reverser, and just so much on a 13 1/2’ x 6 1/2’ sized layout. I got multiple pictures of it and wished I would have been able to keep it as it was a beautiful piece. But all good things came to an end and I certainly hope the new owner really loves it still. To my understanding it was taken to Utah and finished but uncertain as I lost contact with the new owner. Again, quite an amazing video and I’m thankful for it. I’ll use it to reference back to. And another great installment I enjoy watching! Thank you so much Ron!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks so much once again for your kind words Marc. Glad I could help out it a way. Sounds like a pretty nice and big layout you had awhile ago. Too bad you lost contact with the new owner. Maybe someday you will see it again
@N7RD
@N7RD Год назад
Hi Ron, this is Ron in Arizona. Really enjoy your videos, I just joined our local club here in Sun City West, AZ. Trying to learn as much as possible and you are my #1 guy. Keep up the good work and look forward to your next one. Adios...
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks for watching and commenting there Mr Ron!
@johnbanicki7232
@johnbanicki7232 Год назад
Great video! Very clearly explained. Personally I use connectors under the layout because I hate soldering above my head. Nothing good can happen when the solder drops on you. LOL Looking forward to the video on the passenger car upgrades.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks! Ive found if solder is dripping there is too much being applied. Got quite a few passenger sets restorations in the tube.
@jebbohanan2626
@jebbohanan2626 Год назад
I’ve kinda been putting off wiring my layout. Only for two reasons. First: I’m kinda lazy, after working all day. When I get through the door at home, I usually just wanna vegatate and listen to videos and watch my locos pull some rolling stock around. Second: I’ve been trying to figure out the easiest way to wire the thing up. You have just shown me the easiest way! So, CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES AND 16oz. WOOBLE POPS TO YOU! Thanks dude!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
YEA! Wobble Pops :-). Glad I was able to help a Feller out. It took me 3 weeks to get around to wiring it. It's just kind of a hassle getting up and down from the ground level.
@tim8166
@tim8166 Год назад
I've watched a few videos on this subject, I found yours the easiest to understand by far. Thank you!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you! A few Fellers have commented the exact same thing :-)
@jack002tuber
@jack002tuber Год назад
I subscribed a couple weeks ago and I'm binge watching all your videos.These are all great. I don't even have a train set. 🤣🤣
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you Jack for subbing and supporting my channel. Do you plan on getting some trains to model?
@franktino6676
@franktino6676 Год назад
Fantastic video, Ron. The best I have ever viewed regarding wiring up drops, DC / DCC. Your layout is coming along wonderfully. 🚂 After this video, I can re-wire my own small layout and take the County mutual aid Fire Companies off of " standby alert of an impending General Alarm Blaze." They'll be relived. 👈🤣🚒
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it. Love the Fire Companies reference :-)
@BriansModelTrains
@BriansModelTrains Год назад
Wonderful work. Your videos keep getting better and better!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you very much!
@wadehammer29
@wadehammer29 Год назад
I learn a lot watching you, I think this is my favorite channel.👍
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Happy to hear that!
@kevinpoffenbarger228
@kevinpoffenbarger228 Год назад
Like your down to earth explanations of everything!.😊
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you 😊
@MygrandpasTrain
@MygrandpasTrain Год назад
That new layout is looking good! I realized I can adapt that DPDT switch for my American Flyer layout, but use it for AC or DC power, then I can run both AC or DC locomotives on the outside loop of track! With the price of copper these days, extension cords seems to be a great way to go for bus wiring.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Yup the DPDT would fit your project just fine. I'm always finding broken extension cords people toss out. Save money here or there :-)
@steelcityrailroad5095
@steelcityrailroad5095 Год назад
You can run AC flyer trains on DC current. The action cars like the brake man caboose and walking brakman car will be very quiet. The Flyer motors were universal AC or DC but never run the DC locomotives on AC or bad things will happen.
@MygrandpasTrain
@MygrandpasTrain Год назад
This is correct. I have the outside loop of my layout set up for DC so I can run my 332 DC. The inside loop is AC because I found that some of the reversers don't operate as well on DC. Being able to switch just gives more flexibility. Oh also the walking brakeman car will not work on DC.
@billdryden6275
@billdryden6275 Год назад
Hey, Ron, enjoy your channel ..... always something to learn. 😎 I really like that you are not trying to show track wiring with a pencil tip soldering iron and that you are using a soldering station to control your heat. I use a 1/8" chisel; have for 40 years. The higher heat lets me get in, get hot, get soldered and get out without melting ties. KUDOS for you choice of tip!!!!! FWIW - I use "suitcase connectors" under for drop connections. No stripping, no soldering, no getting burned of ruined shirts, less than ½ the time per connection. Only "drawback" - in my experience, only one drop per connection. Also, since my layout is in a 14' x 24' room and is around the wall, I bought a mechanics creeper that folds up into a recliner position so I'm not having to scoot around the floor under the layout. And that is CHRISTIE 😜😜 you showed.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Hello Bill, Thanks for your kind words on my video's. Yup I agree with your soldering comments, Lots of heat, large tip, get in and get out :-). I work in the mechanic industry and the suitcase connectors are a big no-no. Plus for me, they cost more money than the little time it takes me to solder them. I like your creeper idea. I think I need one. Yup good ol Christie Brinkley.
@RailFanGamingRFG
@RailFanGamingRFG 8 месяцев назад
What an absolutely amazing video! I am a newcomer in the hobby. Thank you for helping me understand this so I can start my layout wiring and thank you for helping keep this hobby alive!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 8 месяцев назад
You are so welcome!
@TomzTrainzandAccessories
@TomzTrainzandAccessories Год назад
Hey Ron. Congratulations on your “Shout Out”! Well deserved. Nice to be recognized. Great idea repurposing the 14 gauge wire and doorbell/thermostat wire. Keeps things neat and clean. This weeks model is the beautiful Christie Brinkley!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you and you are correct!
@timmartin2336
@timmartin2336 4 месяца назад
Awesome video I've been an avid model train enthusiasts for most of my life and have always wanted to build a layout and because you simplify everything so the average person can understand I'll hopefully start building my layout thanks again for your videos
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 4 месяца назад
Its Time to start Tim. If you build it, they will come!! :-)
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 Год назад
Thank you for sharing. Very nice.👍
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks for visiting
@trainwild
@trainwild Год назад
Great video and wiring instruction. I enjoyed watching, thanks for sharing! 😀👍
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
@StillPlaysWithModelTrains1956
@StillPlaysWithModelTrains1956 8 месяцев назад
Very clever! Thanks for sharing and remember, Model Railroading is Fun!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 8 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it John!
@regisbraga3833
@regisbraga3833 Год назад
Very interesting video Ron. I’ve learned a couple of tricks watching your work. The DC and DCC schemes are very education: you made them as simple as possible. Congratulations for another great video my friend!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks Regis!
@markryan1754
@markryan1754 Год назад
Very good job on this video!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you!
@dalerobertson9394
@dalerobertson9394 Год назад
Well explained. Awesome.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you
@michaelthayer643
@michaelthayer643 Год назад
Nice job. That's Christy Brinkley.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks and YUP!
@rwheatley0206
@rwheatley0206 Год назад
Great job Ron. Lookin good.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks 👍
@TwistedMacGyversTrains
@TwistedMacGyversTrains Год назад
Great video Ron! This video will definitely help a lot of people who are not sure how to wire up a layout correctly. You crack me up with your comments, love your video's!!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Glad it was helpful and thanks!!
@jonpowell-ov3yh
@jonpowell-ov3yh Год назад
Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your channel - great content, excellent production values, and the humor is a real hoot. Looking forward to future videos...
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you for your kind words
@amyreynolds3619
@amyreynolds3619 Год назад
Great job
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks :-)
@steelcityrailroad5095
@steelcityrailroad5095 Год назад
Great tutorial on wiring, and I love how you put a little comedy in there to give people a chuckle too! Some of that plastic dip paint on insulation would make those connections tidy and quick.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it! The connections are tidy and quick. No real need to insulate them. Nothing too short out on. Plus if it comes time to add another drop in that same area one could quickly solder in another one :-) This is a technique I learned from an Old Timer at the local Club here in town.
@chaotictrains1900
@chaotictrains1900 Год назад
I really like your videos...some of the most entertaining and informative videos on RU-vid!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
I appreciate that!
@pathvalleyrailroad9277
@pathvalleyrailroad9277 Год назад
Love the classic models. :D Congrats on the shout-out and thanks for the wiring ideas.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
@harperlarry49
@harperlarry49 Год назад
I like that you are soldering the feeder to the main bus. A good solder joint will last forever. Great video. Thanks for sharing these tips. Stay safe - Larry
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks Larry! learning to solder is useful in many ways. Glad you enjoyed my vid 👍
@alaskarailroad3996
@alaskarailroad3996 4 месяца назад
Awesome. First video I seen of your layout. Nice job.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 4 месяца назад
Thanks!
@deplorableconstitutionalis2834
Fantastic sir, great job on the thoroughness for the wiring too. Also spotted quite the peach of a switcher there also. Good looking rs model also
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you very much!
@joelmelofsky5801
@joelmelofsky5801 Год назад
Good video and that’s Christie Brinkley
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you and you are correct!
@gacj2010
@gacj2010 Год назад
YOU ARE THE MAN... This guy is sooooooooooooooo good at what he knows and does .. OH Man .. He tells it right out.... I love this DC wiring as its more of a challenge and is more exciting to do and achieve ...Love it and I love TYCO .. I dont care what they others say ,, Best loco I have is a MANTUA 2-8-2 Mikado .. Man that is a great simple down to earth engine with great pulling power and a simple 5 pole engine .... DC DC DC I love it
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Wow, thanks!
@rickkent6016
@rickkent6016 9 месяцев назад
Best wiring video i have seen to get me started. Thank you.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 9 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful Rick
@russcrooker2223
@russcrooker2223 Год назад
Looks Amazing!!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks!
@ianhaynes5898
@ianhaynes5898 7 месяцев назад
Very interesting and I will apply what I have learned.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 7 месяцев назад
Thanks Ian!
@n4pwx
@n4pwx Год назад
Ron you made my day.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks :-)
@charlesyonk4315
@charlesyonk4315 Год назад
Thank you. Helped me to decide on dcc, in addition to my exiting dc "stuff". And your repair/ maintenence videos help too.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Great to hear!
@richardwest9054
@richardwest9054 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the outlet idea!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 7 месяцев назад
Your welcome!
@schadowolf
@schadowolf 5 месяцев назад
Great vidio and tips,subbed1
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the new Sub!!
@MMRails
@MMRails Год назад
Great video! New subscriber. No regrets. Super entertaining and informative. Well done. -Mark
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Welcome aboard Mark! Thanks for your kind words and your sub!!
@4everdc302
@4everdc302 Год назад
Great video sir👍🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲🙋
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks 👍
@AndyBye5
@AndyBye5 Год назад
Hello from the UK, Ron. Top class video and explanation. This one really hit the spot. :-)
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Hello Back from Montana, USA. Glad you enjoyed my Video
@williamkaczmarek3996
@williamkaczmarek3996 Год назад
Nice video Ron! Thanks a heap for showing us how to do it.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Glad to help
@matchboxcustomsandrestos
@matchboxcustomsandrestos Год назад
Those guys with the Barbie Jeeps are nuts! I love watching that.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Rednecks know how to have fun!!!
@matchboxcustomsandrestos
@matchboxcustomsandrestos Год назад
@@classicmodeltrains If me and my friends would have thought about doing this in the 70s and 80s....we had some steep hills around where I grew up. We probably would have done it with bog wheels, little red wagons and that thing called the green machine. Not sure how many of us would have made it to be an adult. Bad enough half of us thought we were Evel Knievel. LOL
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
@@matchboxcustomsandrestos Green Machines were awesome!!
@user-lq7uy8qo2s
@user-lq7uy8qo2s 10 месяцев назад
great vide.... helped me a bunch
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 10 месяцев назад
Right on!
@kevinb9327
@kevinb9327 Год назад
Thank you. That was the easiest, and BEST explanations I've encountered. 😁🏆 Tried to super thanks, but...
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
You're welcome Kevin! Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
@jimmyk5223
@jimmyk5223 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video . Awesom. You answered all my questions in the video. Thanks great video!!!!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for your kind words. Glad this Vid helped you out :-)
@AEStudt
@AEStudt Год назад
This a good show really enjoying it and your channel very very informative thank you
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@tewwonwonii8462
@tewwonwonii8462 Год назад
Excellent.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Many thanks!
@aniburns329
@aniburns329 4 месяца назад
I only have a simple modular layout in my garage running DC. I think if you have a much more complex layout,then yes DCC would probably be best for you especially if you are running multiples and signals, crossings, lights all the bells and whistles (pun intended).
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 4 месяца назад
Yup! DC does keep it simple.
@PirateChiefPC1
@PirateChiefPC1 Год назад
Great video. I just recently discovered your channel. I enjoy your sense of humor while presenting the topic. Well done. You have a new follower here.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you for your kind words and supporting my channel :-)
@tonyclixby
@tonyclixby 10 месяцев назад
Excellent
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much 😀
@NikonJax
@NikonJax 8 месяцев назад
Very nice video! So helpful for me :)
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 8 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@crsrdash-840b5
@crsrdash-840b5 Год назад
You and I have the same throttles of NCE PowerCab and the powerful and mighty MRC Control Master 20! However, I use the Atlas selectors to create blocks on the layout to cut sections off. The selectors makes it easier for wiring and gives great flexibility in both analog (DC) and DCC.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Right on! I have no blocks because I can only pay attention to one train at a time.
@hyster16t
@hyster16t 5 месяцев назад
Great video 👌
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 5 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@Cbtrainnut
@Cbtrainnut Год назад
Excellent video with great information! Thanks for sharing
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561
@lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561 Год назад
A good idea Ron, remove your Engines from the track when soldering. Just to be safe. Also, like John Banicki suggested. Do your underside wiring Before (turn your module upside down), lot easier to work on and less solder in your eye.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Greetings Lynn. This layout is not module based. there aint any loco's or usually cars on the layout when I'm wiring it up for the first time (again) Also I have found if you have solder dripping off the joint, there is too much solder being used. But thank you for sharing some good tips that are useful !! :-)
@bobbymartinezvergara9130
@bobbymartinezvergara9130 Год назад
excelent job , wonderfull channel , congratulations
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks so much :-)
@openeyes-411
@openeyes-411 Год назад
Hi Ron, just came upon your channel with this nice video and have a few comments... At 2:40 you said less than (
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Greetings Charlie, Thanks for your compliments on my video. I do plan on installing blocks as you mentioned. DCC is so finicky on clean power I do not want to minimize my drops. One drop on every 36" flex track does not seem excessive to me. Terminal strips are expensive and suitcase connecters are the most evil thing created by mankind. I avoid them like the plague. Soldering is quite relaxing for me and is very inexpensive. Yup....Good Ol Christie (wolf whistle) Thanks for commenting :-)
@johnsadventures6783
@johnsadventures6783 7 месяцев назад
I use the snap together track. I like the option of rearranging things. Also, I have had luck cleaning my track with an eraser.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 7 месяцев назад
Hello John, yes it is fun re-arranging the layout. Keeps things fresh and interesting.
@russrockino-rr0864
@russrockino-rr0864 7 месяцев назад
Nice Pink Drill, Ron,lol! Great video, Thanks for sharing!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 7 месяцев назад
I found pink tools never grow legs and walk away :-)
@gbwdude
@gbwdude Год назад
Good stuff Ron, I'll be mostly following your lead for the wiring but no DC on mine. I've got a separate test track for that since I do pretty much the same thing you do.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks!
@michaelfedora5630
@michaelfedora5630 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video very helpful
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching Michael :-)
@donaldmoore8920
@donaldmoore8920 Год назад
Christie Brinkley classic model
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Yup!
@elleryparsons2433
@elleryparsons2433 Год назад
Well Said and Explained Ron.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thank you :-)
@CameronTata-pn9vu
@CameronTata-pn9vu 7 месяцев назад
Mmm Christie, creep From NZ Whazzup Rob 😊
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 7 месяцев назад
Greetings Cameron! Christie Brinkley. (shwing!!)
@Mike__B
@Mike__B Год назад
FYI, if you're soldering directly to the track pick up a pair of heat sink clamps, you can slap them on the rail and help protect the plastic ties from melting if you apply a bit too much heat.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Ive heard of Fellers doing that. I have my iron set to very hot, so I can get in there and solder fast. I don't have any problems with melted ties.
@garyjust.johnson1436
@garyjust.johnson1436 Год назад
Classic model Christie Brinkley!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Yup
@SleeperBBQ
@SleeperBBQ 6 месяцев назад
ty
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 6 месяцев назад
Thanks
@briandarrah7303
@briandarrah7303 Год назад
I put floors in my HO buildings. Made them stronger and you couldn't see the back door from the top floor windows. You could also do more detail inside if you wanted for the buildings that are close to the edge, so that the children can see things that look real.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
I do plan on doing that. Takes a lot of time. all my roofs are not glued down so I can still work on the interiors.
@keithbowman1299
@keithbowman1299 9 месяцев назад
I like and understand your method for DCC and DC. Total sense. My question is this: Would it make sense to divide the track into blocks by making your drops coincide with blocks using insulated rail joiners so with DC you could still run two trains? That may complicate things by adding a bunch of DPDT switches to the DC side and how it would effect the DCC switch over. Your way is super easy for one train DC and multiple trains DCC. Thanks for the video !
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 9 месяцев назад
Hello Keith. Your statement is very true and doable even with DCC. A lot of large DCC layout do have blocks in them but there mainly used for short out protection and ease of diagnostics. This layout is a point to point so I really can only run 1 loco at a time.
@kensbackshop6399
@kensbackshop6399 Год назад
Christy brinkley
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Yup.
@williamsantangelo
@williamsantangelo Год назад
Neat!! Your doing well
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks!
@ProspectorsGhost
@ProspectorsGhost Год назад
On my N-Scale layout, I have a reversing loop of which loops around through a mine and back out again. At the beginning of this loop I have a right hand switch. The entrance to this loop from the mainline enters from the fixed end. Here is the problem. If I decide to take the right spur to go around the mine then there is no problem. All my engines do just fine with no problems. If I take the left-hand (straight ahead), portion of the switch to go to the mine and if I am running an engine of which has three-axled trucks (such as an EMD), on it there are no problems either. - But. - If I am running my two axle trucked GP-40 then going right (onto the spur), is no problem either. But, if I decide to take the left-hand (main straight ahead), and go left it immediately jumps the track and derails as it goes over the frog split (the plastic “X” part of the switch). Of all the switches upon my layout, this is the only switch I seem to have trouble with, with that GP-40. Short of replacing the whole switch, does anybody know why this happens and why only on that one particular locomotive engine. Or can they even give me a clue as to why this happens and how to cure it? - Just asking. P.S. - All my switches are manually operated by hand.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
I would just swap out that switch and see if that solves the problem.
@careystarr4641
@careystarr4641 Год назад
hi ron, i appreciate the idea of running dual power...i have dc now and wanted to switch, i just didnt know if it was possible without a complete rewire
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Glad I could help
@jeffreyj522
@jeffreyj522 8 месяцев назад
Great video. cleared up a lot of confusion. Only had 1 question. I know if you are doing DC, you need to use insulated rail joiners between sections. If you are using DCC and a common power bus, do you need insulated rail joiners between sections that are connected to the common powered bus? Thanks
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 7 месяцев назад
Insulated rail joiners are for building "blocks" or separated circuits for your locomotive to run inside of if you wish to run multiple locomotives on the same layout using DC control. With DCC you can run multiple loco's on the same loop so ultimately you do not break your loop up into sections. BUT.....Fellers will have isolated staging or yards that are insulated from the whole layout so you can turn the power off to these specific tracks. If the layout is very large then Fellers will break it up into districts run by seperate power supplies and insulated from each other for ease of short circuit identification.
@azmike1
@azmike1 Год назад
No DCC! I run my trains. I don't try to mimic switch yards and coupling sessions.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
I don't run DCC either, but I have the layout set up for it so I can fix them,. I like the simple DC
@crsrdash-840b5
@crsrdash-840b5 Год назад
...so you don't use either dcc or dc? Then how do you run your trains? Every railroad needs a yard or siding of some sort.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
@@crsrdash-840b5 I prefer DC. I have the ability to run DCC
@azmike1
@azmike1 Год назад
@@classicmodeltrains Me too.
@bobmcweeney7459
@bobmcweeney7459 7 месяцев назад
Yea, I bet your strictly DC layouts have great sound. Right?
@kba3039
@kba3039 Год назад
Christie B. model of the week
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
She sure is a cutie!!
@rustymills1480
@rustymills1480 Год назад
Maybe use a spdt for your power switch hooked to the 110 outlet instead of 2 spst. Double protection to keep from supplying both sources at the same time
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Pretty good idea!
@DinsdalePiranha67
@DinsdalePiranha67 Год назад
Christie Brinkley!
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
yup
@joesask857
@joesask857 Год назад
nice
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks
@jimorlando5700
@jimorlando5700 8 месяцев назад
I enjoyed the video. Have you thought about using suitcase connectors to connect the feeds to the bus under the layout? My layout is DC and has 13 blocks and 9 switches and only 4X8 The wire is 20 gauge. I’m pretty old and I’ve been toying with adding DCC to my layout but it might be too much work for me to do a complete rewire. Do you have blocks on your layout?
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 8 месяцев назад
Suitcase connecters are the devil's spawn. Much cheaper and faster to solder. Guaranteed the connection won't fail from corrosion. I am running 12 gauge bus bar and 20 gauge drops. My main line has no blocks but the yard fingers will eventually have blocks to turn off the juice when something is parked in there. I can only pay attention to 1 train at a time so I have no need for blocks. You should not have to re-wire for DCC. Just leave all your blocks turned on. Down side is DCC is very finicky and difficult to trouble shoot. The learning curve is steep and frustrating. If you desire to learn it, it can be better than DC block control if you want to run more than one at a time. The sounds are neat but after awhile they get irritating and I end up turning off the sound. Thanks for your kind words on my Video Jim :-)
@w.rustylane5650
@w.rustylane5650 8 месяцев назад
I am strictly a DC guy. DCC is way too expensive for an old retired guy with a fixed income. The switch is a double pole double throw. How much does it cost to get into DCC? Great tip for repurposing wire. Since I'm a Ham radio operator, I've repurposed house wiring (Romex) for ground wires and making antennae. When I had my old layout I used insulated rail joiners for setting up blocks which were controlled by a SPST switch. That way I could isolate different sections. Are your switches DCC friendly? I used to rewire switches to get power through the points. I just wish I'd made a schematic of how I wired them. Cheers from eastern TN
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 8 месяцев назад
used DCC controllers run $75-$125. DCC no sound loco's can be picked up $35 and up. You can wire in a no sound DCC decoder for around $20 and up. My turnouts are DCC friendly yes.
@PapaMav
@PapaMav 6 месяцев назад
Christie Brinkley
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 6 месяцев назад
Could be :-). Cant remember
@mfight
@mfight Месяц назад
Hi Ron, I have watched a number of your videos, thank you. I'm getting ready to build my first layout (DC / DCC) and understood everything you said with the wiring, but I had only one question. You wired up the DPDT switch so either DC or DCC is supplying voltage to the tracks but in the end of the video you had two engines running at the same time, was that under DCC? Or did you have a DC and a DCC train running simultaneously? I was a little confused and maybe you cut the video in a way that led me to believe you had a DC and DCC at the same time. Also, what do you do for power to buildings and accessories? Do you run a separate independent supply and a buss for that? Also, since I'm so new, what do you power your turnouts with, the DC/DCC controller or a separate supply? Thanks
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Месяц назад
I can only run DC OR DCC. I cannot run both at the same time. I either had 2 DCC loco's running or 2 DC ones. Lighting and turnout power would come from separate buss lines and power supply correct My turnouts are manually operated with my finger. I do more modeling than operation so not a lot of switching is taking place
@1610nsb
@1610nsb Год назад
Hi Ron Would love to see you do one on how the meters work and wired in I have the same control set up ,but no meters Thanks
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
that video has already been made. here's the link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pHHfx6OZr2M.html
@1610nsb
@1610nsb Год назад
Thanks Ron I’m also using the control master 20 So cool now just to pick up some gauges Thanks, love your videos keep them coming
@pointbreak450
@pointbreak450 6 месяцев назад
Do you have a switch you recommend? I have been wanting to run both DC and DCC for my son and this solves the issue.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 6 месяцев назад
A dual throw dual pole "DPDT" toggle? I got mine at a auto parts store. I asked for a nice one not a cheapy.
@maltnz
@maltnz Год назад
Buss - old English term meaning to osculate (kiss) or being drunk if you are in Hawaii. Power bus is what you want on a layout. 😉
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
actually I want Tesla's wireless power transmission technology :-)
@franktino6676
@franktino6676 Год назад
Buzz this 🤣
@XBOXShawn12thman
@XBOXShawn12thman 5 месяцев назад
If you made a DCC layout .... Do you still need insulators after turn outs like a DC layout?
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 5 месяцев назад
I've never used insulators after turnouts. Unless it's in a yard and I want to park a locomotive. With DCC you can park a loco anywhere at anytime is I guess I would say no insulators needed
@ralphy46gizzmo
@ralphy46gizzmo 10 месяцев назад
Hi..Ralphy from Brooklyn NY here... bin chekin u out...like ur "keep it simple ways".. question: when i go out to home depot looking for the dp-dt switch, shud i b making sure of a certain amperage that the switch is designed for...Watchin u has encourged me to build it..jus curious about amperage concern when buying switch...Thx Ron😎👍
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 10 месяцев назад
I got the switches from a local parts store. Yes look for a switch rated at 10 amps or higher. All metal construction
@ralphy46gizzmo
@ralphy46gizzmo 10 месяцев назад
Hey Ron, thx for quick response....ralphy😎
@matthewhancock2127
@matthewhancock2127 Год назад
I like that wire stripper, where did you get that from, and what kind of wire stripper is it exactly? I want to get one exactly like that.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Its a Klein KATAPULT 11063W. I think I ordered it from Amazon. Or I picked it up at a Electrical construction supply house here in town.
@matthewhancock2127
@matthewhancock2127 6 месяцев назад
Is it a problem to wire a layout with aluminum wire that is sold for cheaper at Amazon then copper wire, and could you make a video about that?
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 6 месяцев назад
12 or 14 gauge buss wire in copper is not very expensive. Never seen it in aluminum for that gauge size. Find old discarded extension cords and cut the outer jacket off and you have lots of good 14 gauge copper wire.
@hessxpress3016
@hessxpress3016 Год назад
MRC Tech 6 has a mode button to switch from DC to DCC right on the base station. simple and can run 6 engines addresses 1 - 6 only. another option for someone keeping it simple
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Really? I will have to look into that. sounds awesome!
@tedheinbuch3285
@tedheinbuch3285 5 месяцев назад
Hi Ron, I wanna hook up my control master 20 to the aristocraft walk around controller. I tried the conventional route and it doesn't work. Any tips how I could do it? Thanks I'm advance
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains 5 месяцев назад
Hello Ted, I am not familiar with a Aristocraft walk around controller so I cant help ya there. My CM 2.0 has its own walk around corded controller that's proprietary to the base.
@bncsystemsshortline
@bncsystemsshortline Год назад
What size solder should I use?
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
It depends on what your soldering. Smaller the diameter is better for small jobs. The stuff I was using on the drops is 1/64"
@bncsystemsshortline
@bncsystemsshortline Год назад
24ga feeders to code 83 rail . Thanks @@classicmodeltrains
@ProspectorsGhost
@ProspectorsGhost Год назад
Thank You for such a great instructional video. But I do have a question upon my own layout of which you or somebody else might be able to answer. But it has nothing to do with what you are teaching here. It has to do with a continuous derailment problem pertaining to only one locomotive engine.. - Please see my next posted comment.
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@AEStudt
@AEStudt Год назад
Christy Brinkley
@classicmodeltrains
@classicmodeltrains Год назад
Yup!
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