There is nothing in it for me. I sell plants, not land. Easy to be honest when you have nothing to lose. I only speak on the subject because viewers ask me. Aloha
Thanks again Bill ! We’re buying an adjacent 1/4 acre to our home in Aloha Estates. Great price, I’m looking for a wood chipper. Can’t wait to touch base on several concerns. Mahalo Bob
@@DivaGlamSquad We will see what happens. Right now Ellen cut down most of our coffee. I have one chipper up the hill and one down. They are hard to pull around so having two is less work. Once I get all the coffee chipped I won't need two.
I seldom get to Kona unless someone has me picking up at the airport Since United canceled all future flights to Hilo I may end up on the west side more often. Otherwise I only get there for guitar repair or snorkeling at two step. I have nothing to lose by being honest. I have nothing to buy or sell so none of it matters too much to me. Just commenting for the benefit of the viewers. Aloha
Funny and astute. I bought an acre in ocean view....and built 2 kool off grid cottages on a wooded acre. Its really nice..except for the many junk car lots in my neighborhood...and all night generators.... And yes..the best thing is the weather here at 2000ft. Kool..enough rain....
Enjoy the South Point. I'm very happy I ended up where I did. We spent a lot of time working it out though. I put in 1 1/2 years of research plus a college geology class on Hawaiian Volcanoes before I even set foot on this rock. Aloha
I'm glad to here this. I've been considering getting a wooded acre there. But it does seem far from a lot of the things I would want. Sadly no jiu-jitsu gym yet it looks like.
I took geology classes in college. We did have a unit on Hawaiian volcanoes. It was very useful in understanding the difference between Hawaii and all other volcanoes on earth. Otherwise, Hawaii is the most "boring" geological region unless you like lava. Lava and volcanic geology is all we have here. No limestone, no sediment, no igneous rock, no fossils, coal. oil or diamonds, just lava. Aloha
Glad I bought when I did, my land doubled in price in 6 months! Soon the housing bubble is going to burst they say, I bet land is going to go down before 2024.
So far, I have never seen a time when Hawaiian land goes down. Sometimes the market softens and only the good stuff sells but i have never seen a reduction. I talked this property down by $40,000 during the peak of a boom but that was a special circumstance. It was also a singular event.
@@cyrusjulian187 Sales flattened and slowed in 2008. Some places that were on bank loans defaulted and went out at repo rates but most land here is bought and sold by cash. This is a more stable market and tends to resist economic slumps. I bought this lot in 2004 and built the house in 2007. The year I built I could have sold overnight for 33% profit. By 2008 it would still have been easy to recover my investment but a 33% profit would take some sitting waiting for the right buyer. Some prices came down for a short time due to external economic conditions but this didn't matter because everyone in 50 states got hit across the board. The entire economy slumped. I was referring to the long term trend in HI. These are Island. We do not have room for everyone that wants to live here. That creates scarcity and competition. I will rephrase, In the long run, prices in Hawaii never go down. That better?
@@GreenGardenGuy1 But I saw them go down about 3 months into the pandemic, so your statement is mostly true. They do go down "Sometimes". I saw lots in my neighborhood going at $12,000 per lot, down from $18,000 in 2018 that is now worth $36,000.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 You’d think USGS would use sonar to map the lava tubes simply for scientific purposes. Giving the general public access to the information could deter looky loos from wasting their hard earned time and money but also affect insurance, bank loans and deaths from falling into one in your backyard and croaking, like a guy did several years back. In the late 80’s land near Hilo was one to two thousand an acre, workers on the cruise ship Independence and Constitution were snapping it up. Now look where the lava flows Geez would have been a great 40 years though.
After 3 years of planning I am finally moving on Friday. I chose to get a rental for 3 months in Volcano and take my time to look around. Prices are up but I am of the mindset that the right property will show itself when its time. Like you, I grew up in the midwest (Wisconsin), moved to Northern California for six years, and now its time to make the move to the Big Island. Thankfully prices (so far) have not skyrocketed like they have in Nor Cal.
I've never seen prices go back down here so any point that you catch the brass ring is right time. Markets soften with economic slumps put seldom drop, usually just stagnate in a holding pattern. Hawaii is an okay place to live but it's all about what you make of it. Good Luck & Aloha
@@jeremybrody2885 aloha Could you give an update on your search? I think maybe I should come in a month or two. So, how is it? Did you find something? What place did you rent for 3 months: price, size, LL etc. Tell me more if you have a minute. Mahalo.
Everything Bill the Green Garden Guy says is true. The volcano is terrifying and anxiety inducing, as well as the earthquakes; and yet without the volcanoes the island would not exist. The USGS has been monitoring deformation on Mauna Loa. If it does decide to pop off, you won't have much time to bug out down south. Ash makes flying out very unlikely. Also the warning signal is usually a large earthquake. The grid pattern of the streets in OVE lined with piles of lava rock on each side; lava rock landslides from previous flows could make evacuation impossible. Imagine an avalanche of rock in that environment with all those people. Scary indeed. Oh and even if the mountain isn't rumbling, if any run of the mill accident or crime related event happens, don't expect a 911 call to save you. Most jobs in Ocean View town are minimum wage, cost of living requires people to be dependent on the state, and the grocery store prices are through the roof. Most people are trying to find the time to haul their own water. If you have no other option, there are ways to fall in love with the south side of the 'Āina; desert horticulture for one. It would be funny and sort of ironic if Better Homes and Gardens did a feature on OVE; "Making the Most of Less Soil with Soilless Gardens" I'm amazed at what some people have been able to build out of nothing. Some of the most beautiful ornamental bromelaids and succulents in lava rock gardens. Succulents will grow anywhere in OVE, reminds me of Santa Rosa. For us it was always intended to be a temporary stop in our move, might end up either getting stuck here or renting closer to town without a homestead to make more money. Sigh. Life situations changed. For now I do appreciate the benefits of no fire ants, no boars, and minimal slugs, and living offgrid. Downsides? We assume some rats and some roaches outdoors and must be fastidious, plus the wild goatsheep every once in a while (people up here call them "musaf" idk the spelling).. oh and if your balance doesn't improve trekking over lava make sure you heal up all your scrapes before taking the beach retreat or beware of staff infection. Here I was thinking rats were eating my previously luscious kale plants, no evidence of bugs. I started putting buckets over them at night. Come to find out it was the birds the whole time. Discovered it while watching the garden. I'm pretty amazed really. I didn't ever have that issue before with birds, but I can understand that they probably are lacking some nutrient in it up here in the OVE desert, and we haven't put out seed for them, nor a precious water source. Though my greens are disappearing, there are ways to grow food up here. My neighbor has an extremely healthy young loquat tree she put in a puka on her property. Her cut and come again lettuce is doing fine in a container and she has successfully grown winter squashes! My chard is coming up, as well as Napa Cabbage, but I already see pinholes and nibbles though they barely have true leaves. I suspect teeny tiny snails or ants? Tomatoes love it out here, for those that hate root knot nematode. Likely need STURDY staking or trellis plus wind break for the wind. In fact would recommend determinate varieties for the sake of growing bushier tomatoes that might adapt to the wind...and look pretty near to the ohia. Great bird and rainbow watching up here. Terribly strong wind, stronger the higher you go. Plants will dwarf themselves to deal with it, and also to deal with shallow soil. Natural outdoor direct sow germination can be an issue with the variable conditions. I suggest starting anything you want to grow under plastic or in a greenhouse until it germinates then get it right out into the elements before true leaves and see if it survives...but I like experiments.
You have confirmed by observations. If HOVE was the only choice I felt I had to live in HI it is pretty sure I would find another choice. You are correct about the nerves a live volcano can cause. After the last two eruptions down in Pahoa people flocked to Mountain View to get away from the danger. Most were not at risk but they couldn't take the anticipation. They need to double the size of our local Post Office since the last 2 eruptions. Mauna Loa makes Kilauea eruptions look like a zit.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 plagues, conquest, famine, war...quite the state of things for the human race. People tend to overlook a lot in survival mode. Even preppers that end up tossing thousands of dollars worth of expired MREs. But timing is everything, and that's one place where you have been extremely wise my friend.
Naalehu would be a wonderful spot if it wasn't for VOG from Kilauea and distance from economic centers. The area chokes when Kilauea is productive and it is so far from either Kona or Hilo that it remains economically depressed. The good news is; the area has deep soil, and it is in a very comfotable lava zone 6. I'm not familiar with small lots there. If it is in town then that is normal. Outside the town it would be a bit strange. Country living on small parcels is usually big problems.
Paradise exists in the imagination of humans. It also exists in the doctrine of some religions. These are about the only two places I can think of. Aloha
Fun to hear your take on HOVE, some parts are spot on. I have lived in Ocean View for 13+ years (not in HOVE) and I love it here, nice ocean views and pleasant climate. But I am not a farmer like you, farming would be hard here. You got the rain amount wrong, rainfall here is only 12-30" per year, pretty much one tenth of Hilo or Mountain View, definitely challenging for gardening. Drought resistant desert plants are best. Too dry for Koa. But weeds are not a big problem, and no coqui frogs. Pros and cons. The FBI witness protection story, I would say that it is an urban myth, but what do we know, those things are supposed to be secret, right? I am lucky enough to be able to work from home, to find work here is challenging and commute is long. This can be a very nice area if you are retired or can work from home. And, there is some dirt around here, in some areas, my property sits on a 3,000 and a 700 year old flow. When it comes to Mauna Loa, well, I have my bottle of gin ready for Madame Pele...
Mauna Loa isn't really my concern with HOVE. Even the worst upper elevation areas have 14 minutes to get the dog in the VW and head down the mountain ahead of the lava when the siren sounds. I suppose my first impression was my last. It looks like the moon with junk cars and old washers. It is a waste land and I do not find it at all appealing. The worst issue with the west side is VOG. You didn't mention not being able to breath when Kilauea starts smoking. I've been in the west when the VOG was heavy. I couldn't breath and came back with my lungs burned from SO2. It is true I live in the East so I can raise food. With the oceans heating, food is going to become a very important aspect of existence. Mostly I am in the east because 25 years worth of fires in California wised me up. Sunbelts are fine for visitors in bikinis but not so good with brush fires and skin cancer. 25 years of CA sun and I've had it with sunburns. The quote about FBI witness protection comes from Andrew Doughty, The Big Island Revealed. I believe I read it in the 7th edition. He is up to edition 11 now, no idea if he still makes the claim.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 some areas in HOVE/Ocean View are terribly junky and it is a shame. Unfortunately I think this is a problem in the Puna/Mountain View area too, but stuff is more hidden in all the beautiful greenery. It boggles my mind that some people carelessly dump their trash and junk in the nature. The vog is a problem, especially for some people. Personally, I am not that affected and it is not that bad on our elevation, 1,400' , It is way worse on higher elevation here and in Kona. I do enjoy the clean air now! The 2018 eruption was something else, and I bought a good air purifier for our bedroom, it helped a lot. Funny about the FBI, maybe he had a source, maybe he printed a rumor to sell books? Before I moved here, I heard a story/joke that Big Island needed to build a new prison, or just put a fence around Ocean View. 😅 Aloha.
@@MatsFogelvik I totally agree about some parts of Puna being undesirable. The advantage here is the jungle takes back junk cars in short order. Sort of like dog crap in the Midwest after the first snow of winter. The diehards park the junk on the road in hopes someone will cut the vines. Aloha
Actually, you can finance bare land here, I did. It requires a personal loan. Since I had put half down Finance Factors was happy to loan me the rest on a 3 year balloon. After 3 years I rolled it over to a builders loan with the local bank. When this happened the land and the house were covered by the bank. It is a mute issue today since we are paid off. It stands to reason sales will drop as interest rises. High interest is the usual way to curb inflation. It is likely you are correct but predictions are crystal ball stuff. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Most credit unions will lend on land also. There are also Ag credit programs. We were going to buy near Honokaa a few months ago and had an AG loan which are low interest and also long term with no balloons. 1/3 down I believe. The dal fell through but not due to the loan.
@@bloomya I have never looked at this but I am aware there are USDA farm loans and probably some state ones. Hawaii has been trying to foster local food production. I don't imagine they hand this money to any Tom, Dick and Harriet who thinks they are a farmer. I have a friend with a USDA farm loan. It works but you end up with the government on the farm forever. Checking for pests, etc.
There is no such thing as cheap land in Hawaii. The low prices indicate the land is undesirable. Price is the best indicator of quality in HI. Eden Rock never was a good place to live, bad roads, no air circulation, trapped in the woods. Cheap prices drew a low standard of population. Lately, low prices seem to attract all sorts of people. The mix has become more cosmopolitan than it used to be but the land is still low quality.
I was going to buy in Eden roc....but after looking at many lots i bought in hove ocean view and am glad I did. Junk cars..druggies...yes..but much better than Eden roc. My place is heavily wooded..i get enough rain ..no fire ants..but its not for the timid.
Hey, about to make some bread and watch some Green Garden Guy. Then back to the plant work. Bill, you make it seem easier than it actually is...you romanticize it pretty good, Brother....LOL.
For me it was easy. It was only my self doubt that caused difficulty. After I reached some of my goals the next question was "Where do we go for lunch?". It is only the mind that makes life complicated. The rest is simple.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 baked bread, ate and watched the soil amendment video, now I am wondering what's in my potting mix??? They should air your show on local channels in HI.
@@thedomestead3546 Guess I'm still waiting to be discovered. By the time that happens I'll probably have dementia! The bags usually list the materials. Municipal waste is the one to watch for.
I'm usually around. The farm is marked on google. Puna is all about location, location, location. Some of the best and the worst land can be found here. Good luck with your future project.
Land in lava zone one, next door to armed drug dealers and on solid rock is pretty much junk land. We can all hope that most of the "junk" land on this island remains for frogs and ferns. Transforming natural environments into suburban landscapes isn't a desirable future for such a beautiful Island. Leave the marginal land alone. Hawaii has plenty of excellent property to choose from. Aloha
I live in glenwood. Recommend this area tbh if u dont mind a lot of rain stay from any lower and subdivisions, hilo is great. Hamakua get fire ants. Ive been lucky and never seen vog kau only capt. cook really. Mauka kona coast is overrated. Waimea is best
Waimea is nice but it is too windy for me. The winds between the back of Mauna kea and the slope of Kohala volcano can lift your feet of the ground. Less bugs with more wind though.
Two questions do you get internet to go online where you live? I have bad allergies near the hill country. San Antonio Texas. I get near the south Padre island beaches And I have no allergies. Are allergies and issue on the big Island? Could the ocean breeze help with my allergies!
How could I run this channel without an internet connection? Yes, I have two connections, one slow phone company DSL for most purposed and a high speed cable for my video production. Internet is generally provided by Hawaiian Telcom or Spectrum along main roads. If you live out back in the woods you would need to use Starlink. People are allergic to all sorts of things, impossible to predict your reaction here. I have no allergies so i have nothing to compare to. The Trade winds, in east Hawaii, tend to blow clean Pacific air inland on a steady basis. I am sure this keeps pollen down but no guarantee.
Some valid points here, but way overly dramatic about a number of things. We have lived in "HOVE" or Oceanview for 8 years and love it. It's not for everyone, but it is not anywhere near as described in this video. For those that don't live here, take this video with a grain of salt, the Oceanview area and Puna area (where the commentator lives) are really the "affordable" areas and there's rivalry between the two. Anyone contemplating a move to either area, really needs to do thier homework.
I do not engage drama when I do videos. Sometimes humor, but never drama. I failed drama class in school. As you said, I make some valid points. You just don't happen to like them or agree with them. Everyone one can make up their own minds about where to live. That is their business. Hove is an ugly lava field below one of the largest active volcanoes on the planet. When Kilauea begins pumping the area fills with VOG more so than any other part of the Island. The economy is the worst on the Island. These statements are not drama, they are reality even if you do not care for them. If you live in HOVE you should be happy people are not flocking to live there. Other places on this Island are not so lucky. They are getting over run. I do not post these videos because I want people to move here. I post them because it appears many people do not fully assess the conditions when land in paradise places stars in their eyes. Where people live is their business, this ain't a sporting event and i have no favorite teams. I do not appreciate you coming on here and warning people about what was a well thought and honest video. You say the points are valid and then turn around and warn people about the video. Confusing message. Aloha
I’m Hawaiian and born and raised in Hawai’i, with ancestral connections to the Ka’u area that goes back hundreds of years… I can attest to the fact that the poster absolutely was NOT exaggerating (or being “overly dramatic” as you put it) about HOVE, in fact I would say he was being kind & definitely kinder than I would be if asked to give my opinion on the area. The most important thing to know about living in that area, is that while Mauna Loa erupts far less frequently (which gives foreigners a false sense of safety) when it does erupt it gives hardly any warning at all, it produces far more magma & because the lava is flowing down hill it moves FAST, you won’t have much time at all to evacuate, you may not have any time at all to be honest. But that’s what you signed up for and that’s why the lands cheap, so that’s the gamble you took.
I have many videos about life in Puna. Since I do not live in Hilo I don't speak for it much. I did have some thoughts about a Hilo video. It wasn't about living there but I could add notes on the subject. If living in the second largest town in Hawaii is your style I would definitively pick Hilo. It has most everything you need, good people and nice weather if you don't mind trade showers.
What do you think of the Hawaiian Acres area for land and growing? My wife & I are currently on the island looking for land and see that area has allot of 3 acre lots for sale. Is there any othe areas you recommend of reasonable land?
There are crops that will grow in Hawaiian Acres. Surface conditions there are challenging though. Mostly A'a and Pahoehoe lava. It can be difficult to work the surface and develop something you can farm. There is a large area of volcanic ash soil in the Mountain view area. This is better for growing cattle or row crops. Lava lands are fine for nursery, poultry, aquaculture and some tree crops.
My husband and I are considering moving to the Big Island for spiritual, health and homesteading reasons and Mountain View seems to be our fixation. We are saving up to buy land but yeah a move seems overwhelming . We appreciate your videos!
It's very affordable but drive around the local area before making an offer on a place so you know who lives around that area. Bad neighbors will make your life a living hell.
@@heaven1189 Fortunately since I am Christian I believe God our creator owns the earth. And I am free to move and live anywhere I please Lord willing. I have no tolerance for racism.
There are about 26 major wildfires in my region, We are officially completely out of groundwater in a large number of locations, such that it is now being trucked over a hundred miles in some cases just for the basics. The mainland is a complete mess, people are and have always been more focused on political nonsense than survival. There probably is no escape from climate change in the world. I agree with the opinions about HOVE, With around 10" of rain a year, and particulates which prevent large rain droplets from forming, It probably isn't a wise investment. Plus if you have any breathing problems you'd be a fool to live under the vog. I also agree about the east side of the island, It is WET. It is hard to live in the jungle, off grid, in a cloudy place on solar power, with no soil, on crummy roads, with questionable neighbors... BUT There is always a but. At least in the apocalypse, if you have a chance at accomplishing your dream, may as well do it. As long as that dream has baked into it at least some level of acceptance of reality. From my perspective, it still looks like I'm just swapping out a few of the variables, it really doesn't look like a dramatic change as far as the effort required to live on a daily basis is concerned. Hard rock living without any water wears on a person eventually. My back is starting to require that I get out of the cold permanently, and my lungs are pushing me to get out of the smoke as well... Mourning the loss of a dream but still in denial, doing CPR on it. There is a chance it may survive yet. Maybe just slightly edited, and in a place like Eden Roc or one of the other jungle off grid subdivisions, or on a different island somewhere. I've been through too many recessions in my short adulthood to give up yet. Worst case scenario I'd like to at least get to meet the Green Garden Guy once. You're kinda like Grandpa over here, we like to listen to you talk story. Aloha.
I'm in line with most of your comment. Politics isn't reality and seldom even reflects real life. People foam at the mouth of this stuff and it is stupid. It appears many of the people voted into office are more interested in destroying what we have then preserving it. The basis of the problem is belief systems. Systems of belief like religion and politics are the most dangerous forces in our world today. They refuse change and have a vision of reality that is unreal. Over population, change of climate and sustainable living are the issues that matter. All else is distraction from reality. I might include getting used to the idea that we are not alone in the universe is also considerable. I live in east Hawaii on good roads with fine neighbors, deep soil and a solar system designed to work under our conditions. Yes, it is wet here. That can take some getting used to. As for apocalypse, I don't go there. Grandpa always said "You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear". IF you want to see a better world don't think as if the end times are at hand. You can't make a better world while waiting for it to end. End times thinking gives me hives.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Definitely wasn't trying to invoke the uh... Religious end times ideology, more just that if you grew up in the arid southwest it's time to make major changes... Things simply cannot continue as they have out here in the desert, it's just a matter of when one decides to change their course. I own enough desert land to know it wasn't a good investment. Appreciate all the other stuff, and totally agree. I think we all always have a chance if we can come together, but there will have to be changes made. Oh, and on us not being alone, come on now that's just common sense. Of COURSE there's life on other planets!
@@mountain-man0 I tend to live with two minds. I am educated enough to realize we have really screwed ourselves over. We have known for decades what would happen if we didn't change our ways but we went on living inside of a fossil fuel heated lie. The results of this foolishness will be messy. On the other hand, you can't make a better world when you are sure the world is coming to an end. There are some similarities between the 1960's back to the land movement and the current desire to get back to a simpler way of living. There is also one really big difference. In the 60's we were trying to make a better world with organic food and sustainable life styles. Today what I see is terrified people sure the end is near looking for a place to hide and wait for the end to come. You can't make a better world while waiting for the end times. I find it kind of pathetic. People have been predicting the end of the world in every generation. So far they were all wasting lives that might have been spent on something more productive. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Maybe there's a balance between that almost genetic fear, and utilizing that energy to do good. Many people fear instability in our food distribution systems and want to grow food, they fear climate change and want to move to more reasonable places. Fear is and simultaneously isn't the enemy. It certainly doesn't make sense to stay in a place that is objectively not gonna make it. California has a chance, desalinate sea water, boom, done, unsure about the heat waves but oh well... New Mexico, Arizona, we're kinda screwed, unless we tunnel through a thousand miles of rock, which, last I checked, just to run a line from the next block over to my place was gonna cost $100,000. I do agree wholeheartedly, I think the best way to approach these very real issues is with a sound mind, unclouded by excessive fear. My generation and those following us have HUGE hurdles to tackle, and sometimes it's hard to avoid feeling helpless for a moment here or there.
@@mountain-man0 From my point of view humans do not understand fear so they are ruled by it. Fear is only the idiot light on the dash board that indicates you might need to look under the hood. It is an indicator, nothing more. Looking for the source and taking action is the only way to unlock it's hold. Most people do not understand the nature of fear and are driven by it. When you couple unchecked fear with belief system lie religion or politics the future becomes a very dark place. The universe is hypothetical, fearing what may not even exist is kind of dumb. The fear is internal and self generated. What we fear is our own thoughts.
I'm not sure why anyone would want to live on a lunarscape full of rusty cars in sight of the biggest living volcano on earth but hey....something for everyone. You guys have no mud and less mosquitoes at the very least. When I sink my car in our 16 feet of topsoil it takes two tow trucks and a 4 wheel John Deer with a jammer to get me out.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 🤣 Initially I got it because it was cheap & lots less bugs and mystical forest dreamy on wet days it's as quiet as Hana which is weird for a mainlander from the city but I acknowledge the lunarness as well as the weirdness of some of the people part of me wanted the stereotypical Hawaii landscape so I got more in mountainview I want something in Havi next I love that dam island 🏝️
Hawi is nice. I like the spot myself but was out of my reach. Plenty of grumbling from long time residents about being driven out. Great views of Maui though. I've promised myself there will be no more moves, no more homestead building, no new houses to construct or repair. Desire is the root of all suffering. I usually manage to be happy with what I have these days. I'm better off than I had ever been previously. A better place is only an illusion. Aloha@@mistashortstroke443
You are blessed if you can afford to live in Hawi. It is a great spot, good climate, views of Maui and fairly low crime. I would have considered the area if I was a wealthy man. You are better off than I if you can even think of Hawi. A property in Hawi similar to the one I have in Puna would sell for around 1.5 million dollars. Most Hawi property is multi-million. If you are lucky enough to have such wealth I would moving tomorrow. Aloha
@@kountkwikk I already have more income than I can find things to spend it on. I invested well and retired 8 years ago. I still grow food, nursery stock and sell seeds but all I really need is the food for my table. A valuable existence is worth more than all the gold in fort Knox. Good luck on your quest.
I hope you weren't trying to find me for years! I live on the Big Island of Hawaii, District of Puna, just outside Mountain View, HI. I'm on Google as Green Garden Nursery.
@@selfactualization8400 If one mountain is sacred then everything else has to be too. For some people Hawaii sacred ground. For others it's paradise and skin cancer. To me, it is just a place a man can live. All in all, a pretty good one. Less fire and drought than CA. Less bugs and cold than WI. Much better culture than a few other places that will remain unnamed. Thanks for the feed back.
I never considered this a warning. People will do what people do and it is none of my business. I just had people asking me all the time about the cheaper land here. I got tired of talking about it so I made a video that sort of explains the situation. No such thing as a deal on Hawaii real estate. All we have is good land at high prices and poor land at low prices. You get what you pay for. Paradise is a state of mind, not a state in the Union. Aloha
@@neuralgarden Lots of people look to Hawaii these days because of the peaceful aloha culture and excellent weather. Cheap attracts but later repels. Aloha
There seems to be quite a few around here. Near the top of my parameter list I put "No HOA". I was able to find a place with out one. Canney Farm Lots has no HOA and has a few property for sale at the moment.
Ha...sitting up on the Keweenaw of Michigan. I used to live in Hawi, Waikoloa and Holualoa. Are you up in Kohala? Makes me kind a crabby when I see how built up it is, I can't afford land there and Dang! I've been waiting 34 years to get back after freezing my tanoogis off in this Siberian Hell. Where are locals supposed to live? Take paradise and put up a parking lot surrounded by condos and golf courses. Wtf eh. My kids will bring my ashes to the kohala mnt rd someday. Then I'll get to stay. 😅 you know, they won't let you bring a camper. I wanted to build a vardo, and travel around painting goats and pigs and papaya for Pele. Aloha
I'm afraid you are out of luck. The NW coast of Hawaii is for rock stars and the like. I live in Puna because i can afford it. If you really want to live here you would need to focus on so many things if you are to succeed. Worrying about what was or what could have been or what isn't doesn't help you achieve a goal. A positive attitude with boots on the ground and fingers scrolling the MLS will get you there faster. Good luck with your wish. Aloha
I'll take the roosters and coquis over lava running through my yard. We'll be right down the hill from you. Glad we bought before prices exploded. Even an acre of albezia in HPP is 75k, haha.
@@reefshadow1 You may be right, I have never checked but I once did tree service. Valuable lumber tree or weed species, the work is the same price. As long as you have no buildings and the trees can't fall on the neighbors house it doesn't matter if you hire a maniac for $2000 or an arborist for 20 grand. You response illustrates a point I have been trying to make. There is no such thing as a deal on Hawaiian land. If the price is low it is because of location or other factors that detract or add to cost. Land work is expensive. Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 So true! We bought two acres of ohia, but then again…who knows what condition they’ll be in down the road with the ROD. Probably not great. Way easier to cut than albezia though!
@@reefshadow1 Ohia is the one of the few native trees that exists at low elevation. The ROD is a sad thing. Having watched all the American Elm die off in the US Midwest I have little faith the Ohia will survive. We will see.
I think He is a bit too negative. I have lived in Mt. View for almost a decade, and it isn't paradise but close to it. You don't need heating or air conditioning, and the water is free, even drinking water is free provided at local parks where water stations are set up. Most of the people are friendly, like in a small town on the mainland. There are problems, like almost everywhere in the country, Meth Heads and thieves, usually one and the same will steal your tires, radio, battery and such from your car if you break down and leave it on the side of the road very long. There are some locals, not many who are racist, but that's in many places in the country. The people here are a lot nicer as a whole than those on the mainland. No gangs here like in major cities. Many people here practice Aloha (Love). Prices are higher but cheaper than in NYC or LA. gas is a dollar more a gallon. Mostly it is the weather here that makes it such a nice place to live, same all year round.
Nope, not negative, just careful. I've lived here for years and love the place. I love it because I was thoughtful about where I set myself down. Hawaii is a land of dreams, both good ones and nightmares. People who come here living illusions about paradise often end up with nightmares. There is no such thing as a deal here. There is only high and low priced land. You get what you pay for. This is actually a positive message aimed at people who are drawn to the low cost parcels around here. Most of them have no idea what they are in for until it is too late.
I drove up Oshiro rd once. I know little about the area. It is a bit higher elevation than where I live so I figure it is cooler and wetter. The one thing that jumps out at me is the postage stamp size of the lots. What I see is .19 to .27 of an acre. These would be the smallest lots I have ever seen around here. Most are minimum 1 acre. There seems to be a lot of properties for sale and the subdivision has been around a while. That is never a good sign. Looking down from above I see a fair number of rusty roofs and almost zero solar collectors. The best areas keep the roofs painted and run solar. Power is really expensive here. People with some expendable income install solar. Small lots usually mean big trouble. If one guy likes to sleep and the other feeds wild roosters big trouble usually develops. The larger the lots the less trouble with the neighbors. I suggest a minimum of 1 to 3 acres for good relations. Outside of these observations you already know more about the area than I do. I assume you were here walking the lot before you purchased. What did you see? Drop in next time you are in the area if the gate is open. Aloha
Thanks, I will! Appreciate the input, aloha! (And yup, I walked the lot, lots of characters in true neighborhood, and thanks for the insight, you definitely have a point with clean roofs and solar, not to mention acreage. Good lookin out!
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I'm from the Samoan island's. I totally meant it in a native way. In Samoa you cannot own lands if you are not a native. In my head I meant to debunk outsiders but came out wrong.
Never second guess a mans accent! I was born in Chicago, people there have a certain way of speaking and they think everyone else sounds odd. At the same time the rest of the world figures people from Chicago all sound like gangsters. No hard feelings, I understand where you were coming from. Sometimes in text the emotion and expression get lost. Writing a good story is a job for novelists. Aloha
VOG is a hazy mixture of SO2 gas and aerosols (tiny particles or droplets) which are primarily sulfuric acid and other sulfate (SO4) compounds. Aerosols are created when SO2 and other volcanic gases combine in the atmosphere and interact chemically with oxygen, moisture, dust, and sunlight over minutes to days. You can't breath it, it will rip your lungs out. It also corrodes electrical circuits
Meth heads don't live long so they are a temporary issue. The area you chose is one of the worst for drug addicts. Cheap land, poor roads and parcels lost in the woods draw the worst type of crowd. Since every street drug seems to be getting cut with Chinese Fentanyl the life expectancy of meth users is even lower than it used to be. The area is in the cloud forest zone and usually gets up to 200" of rain a year. Real estate at lower elevation is drier and sunnier. The better conditions cause higher prices and exclude more of the low life. You can generally tell an area by looking down from above with google. The warning signs are rusted roofs, junk cars and appliances in the yard and no solar collectors on the roofs. Better neighborhoods don't pile junk, they keep the roofs painted and invest in solar energy.
Land like teeth are overrated said the ex Ice Hockey player...like you outline at 3 mins in land has it's problems....and never near the water will there be cheap land and why be there if you can't be near the water ? I was looking to buy in Leilani Estates and I did not because the manager then kept piling on more and more restrictions for building....then 2 months later in 2018 the lava showed up and wiped out half of that estates and all the house between there and the ocean...I guess if I live there I will be going mobile...lol...Beep Beep....
I intentionally live 20 miles distant from the water. The salt air near the ocean eats the electrical and internet out of a house in 7 years or less. Tsunami is the one certain way to die on these Islands. There is no soil at the coast, farming is more difficult. I see the ocean from where I live. East Hawaii never had any decent beaches and since the eruption we have even less swimming holes. Just a lot of dangerous lava cliffs.
That goes down as one of the rudest comment anyone has left on the channel. I am never fake about anything buster. I've lived here for years, everywhere I live I eventually pickup the local speech patterns, and you would too. As for only natives owning land, you can stuff it. I have a better idea. Since the Native Americans made it to the Mainland before everyone else, how do you feel about giving it back and finding some other place to park the nations butts? Dumb idea fella and not serviceable without a major conflict.
