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3:26 "Chief Sergeant", lmaooo. Bro it literally says "The *Master Chief* Edition" on the little patch thing on the back of the chair right in front of your face 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
To those who sit for hours at a time, I would avoid the leather/vegan leather option. They are not breathable so it gets warm & uncomfortable very soon from my experience.
@@Axeiaa I have received sample fabrics from Haworth, they sent me me Brisa faux leather. I have another chair (not Haworth) with Brisa faux leather for over 10 years, still perfect, no damage, easy to clean.
@@StardustLegacyFighter Exactly. It's so weird that this isn't pointed out more frequently. How do companies manage to rebrand plastic like this and get away with it?
My Atlas Headrest arrives tomorrow (it took just under five weeks to ship, but two-day delivery so I'm good with it). Haworth also runs 10-15% sales a few times per year, which is when I jumped on one (early 2023).
@@xAlbo94 I'm THRILLED with it. I knew I wouldn't like the Haworth one, so I skipped it, and am glad that I did. I got the cushioned version for the Fern, and it's marvelous. Very flexible, ridiculously easy to install (I followed Dan's recommendation of connecting the two pieces BEFORE attaching it to the chair), and it's comfortable beyond my expectation. Money very well spent (for my personal tastes). Prior to that, I was using a pool-noodle type, which was okay but only effective when I dropped my head back (looking up at the ceiling). With the Atlas, I can use it for all scenarios, and it's MUCH more comfortable than the noodle.
@@DavidLongo22does it damage the chair? I mean, if I want to remove the head rest later on to sell the chair, will there be some damage because of the head rest?
@@RobertoOrtis No structural damage - it's a clip on (similar to what Crandall's doing). Depending on how careful and patient you are (neither are my strongest suit), you MIGHT have some minor scratching where the two screws go in. OLS did put a little rubber thingie over the screwheads, so if you're careful, you shouldn't even have that. Suffice it to say that I have one side that scratched a tiny bit. 😂 It's not an issue for me - I can't really tell unless I specifically look for it. I'll have zero concerns when I eventually replace it with the Atlas one (probably a few/many months away).
I have a Fern without digital knit and without added lumbar bubble (I got a good deal on it). I think the digital knit is way nicer and if you like having some real lumber support then get that, too. I had to roll up some foam and shove it into the lower back of the chair to get enough support. A really good chair, but at 5'11" the seat pan is not really long enough for me, sliding it out opens a gap in the back and takes your "sitting bones" out of the sweet spot in the seat pan. For people less tall this is a really great chair. Thumbs up!
QUESTION FIR YOU!!! CAN YOU slide the seat pan all the way out and sit scooched back in the seat? My digital knit fern at home still has a gap, but the Xbox DOES NOT! Wtffff this could be huge
One of the guys at BTOD now prefers the digital knit fern to the embody because he can take the lumbar out of the fern and finds it less aggressive than the embody. I have a strong feeling I am in the same boat (though bought the embody before trying the fern, cos it seemed perfect to me in the HM showroom and preferred the styling). Just goes to show really have to sit in these chairs for a decent time to fully know how it's gonna fit you.
I had the good fortune to try out a bunch of Ferns, most of which didn't have the optional lumbar, only 2 chairs did. I didn't feel a huge difference, tbh, but I did prefer the added lumbar (I'm old, with a slightly bad back). I can see why someone could prefer the back without the added lumbar, as not having it makes the back of the chair more flexible.
Thanks for the reviews man. I always rely on your reviews because we have a very similar body type/weight/height. I used your affiliate link and got myself the xbox one. With the Embody at 2k and the regular fern around 1400+ for the configuration I would like, I feel like the xbox one with the lumbar at 1250 right now is a no brainer since it comes fully loaded.
For anyone on a budget, I just picked up a mesh fern with the lumbar support for $350 from the Hayworth outlet store in Holland Michigan. If you're within a couple hours I'd say it's worth the drive for that value. It's not in pristine condition. You don't get to pick the colors. But I was just in there and there was a decent variety available. Totally worth the value.
That's how I bought mine, too! 2 years ago, it was $305 tagged, so $323 after Michigan tax. Mine has the headrest, added lumbar, digital knit, and steel base. It JUST barely fit into the back seat of my Chevy Cruze, had to lift the legs up and put them in first to be able to fit. (Wouldn't fit in the trunk, because of the legs). Mine still had all the new chair tags on it, only thing I can find wrong with it is the arms aren't quite symmetrical, left arm juts out slightly more than right arm.
I would recommend the normal fern. Just imagine a hot summer and you are in shorts or something and your skin sticks to the chair. awfull. fabric for the seat is a must for me.
Can you make a video about removing and how to remove the fern OG head rest please? I’m thinking of getting the xbox one but would like a tutorial on headrest removal. I couldn’t find anything on a quick google of youtube search.
As someone that owned a fully loaded leather one minus the headrest I would say avoid this chair, didn't like it at all. If you are going to go Haworth, the Zody is a better chair. My Haworth Improv H.E. from the mid 90s is still a supremely comfortable chair, one of the best chairs ever.
Hey Dan, Thanks for all your reviews on Haworth chairs. They've been very helpful. Just curious on the mesh materials on the Fern. Are they the same as the ones found on the Zody and Soji? I personally have a Soji and found the mesh there a bit rough for the arms. Otherwise the recline and built-in lumbar curve feel really good, so I want to stick with Haworth but am considering upgrading to the Fern if the mesh is better there.
@@louisxue3292 fern mesh is nothing like the soji. It’s fabric and soft to the touch. Soji has very rough fabric mesh. As always, if you decide to pick up, please consider using my links! Helps the channel a LOT!
Do you know how to remove the headrest from the Xbox Chair? I contacted Haworth and they said that the headrest can’t be removed since it’s built into the chair
I got the regular Fern in all black with the digital knit. I'm very happy with the purchase. I also own a steelcase gesture and I would say the fern leans more towards the casual slouching user... And the gesture forces you to sit upright. They both work great for what they do.
Just ordered the Atlas headrest for my Fern Executive. The stock headrest is a joke. They really need better support behind the neck when tilting back in the chair.
if you didn't check them yet, spinalis are pretty interesting chairs. i myself got the humanscale freedom second hand off of your in depth review, its been great so far!
I am looking for a big chair like titan evo 2022 and I sit in every position while using it and I have no budget problem is herman miller gaming embody good choice or should I go for another chair. (I dont like hard lumbar support.)
Hey based on your desire for soft lumbar, would avoid the embody. The Fern is a great choice for lounge/every which way sitting! If you have any questions or decide to pick up, let me know and please consider using my links! Helps the channel a LOT!
I was on the search for another chair as I felt that the Aeron was a bit too relaxed for me and was better lounging than providing me a seating position that is more upright and "productive". Still love the Aeron though and have it in my gaming room. Maybe there is a quality control issue for the Haworth Ferns in Canada but I decided to give it a try and ended up having to go through three returns with issues due to damage on shipping, Fabric fraying on the digital knit and both chairs after the first one had loose armrests which I thought by ordering the Aluminum build would correct that issue mentioned online (it didn't). I did give it a try though and sat on the chairs for maybe a total of 40 work hours before deciding that it wasn't worth the money just due to how the build quality was. Actual seating performance was great but for $1500 Cad it wasn't worth it imo. I went off of Dan's recommendation in his previous videos on the Embody and forked up the additional $300 and do not regret it one bit. It's weird because the Embody has so much more plastic but it feels so much more well built. Depending on where you are and the pricing for between the chairs, I would still recommend the Embody despite it being $300 more!
I have been watching a lot of your videos and the content is great, you've gained a sub! Unfortunately, it is quite disappointing that even spending 2k$ you cannot get a perfect chair. I want a good ergo chair type HM, Steelcase, Haworth with a headrest to improve my back pains but none of them have a recline function. I work 4-8 hours per day at the desk but I also want to be able to recline the chair and relax after a long day of work when I watch some youtube or other and not have to constantly apply pressure to stay tilted. I have gone through two old HyperX Stealth (which are Titan knock offs) and I love the recline function but the rest of the chair is garbage and they break down easily. Any tip on a chair that would fit those requirements? Thank you!
I feel your pain, brother. I want that exact thing, but no one has done it. The closest that have come close are the Steelcase Karman (high back) and the SIHOO Doro S300. Of the 2, I'd def recommend the Karman. They dont have back tilt lock, but they do have auto adjust mechanisms, meaning they tilt based on your weight placement, not based on how much force you place on the back. No high end ergo chair can lock the back tilt in place like racing style/asian made chairs do though! Hope this helps and please consider using my links if you decide to pick up!
Man, I love the Xbox chair. Almost perfect mixture of luxury ergonomics and understated gaming styling. What a pity about the headrest, but if it can be removed and replaced with Atlas might well be the "gaming" chair to beat the embody.
I love the lumbar but some people find it too aggressive. You can remove it, but it can be tricky. Some people opt to just not get it and stuff the back hole with a pillow if they want more support lol. And yes, it can be removed, but can be a little tricky! I’m supposed to make a video on it, but been pretty busy…
I have the gaming Embody and I like, it, but part of me still wishes it was more cushy. Maybe someday I'll spring for a Fern, it was my 2nd choice when researching chairs.
Hm if I could put it this way... - You get 12 years of warranty from a reputable company - Return process will be significantly easier - You get MUCH higher quality materials all around - You get a lot more customization (M18 is very very basic in terms of controls) Hope this helps! Haworth is on sale now for a few more days, so if you're curious, you could pick up now and return if you don't like it! If I've been of help, please consider using my links! It really helps the channel a LOT!
great question. I couldn't tell a noticeable difference, but keep in mind I think I was wearing jeans for this review. Might be different if you were wearing something a little thinner....or nekked.
This is an excellent chair, but in Europe they ask for 1500 euros for it, at the same time in America you can buy it for 1000 euros, this is a significant price difference. Also, in Europe there are no used and refurbished chairs, no one sells them, in America, you can find a used chair for less than 700 euros in excellent condition......And a very interesting situation with discounts in Europe: there are none :( I've been wanting to buy this chair for a long time, but apparently, it wasn't my destiny.If anyone has any recommendations on what kind of chair to buy from $500 to $800 in terms of ergonomics Haworth Fern.
@Ahnestly Thanks for the informative video! Just found that it doesn’t appear I can get most of the chairs in the UK sadly! The EU store only has one pre-configured chair, and the US store doesn’t ship to the UK.
Haworth really need to get their shit together. Even Steelcase recently opened up a brand new UK webstore so that they can compete with HM more effectively within the UK.
I bought the Haworth fern. Unfortunately after a week its going back. 6 ft 3. The seat pan isn't long enough. The digital net is a little bit scratchy and really locks you into place compared to my old leather chair. It does feel a bit odd being wider than the chair at the top as it tapers up. It's a c+. I keep it if it wasn't $1,250. There are too many negatives at that price point.
I was sweating the choice of going with the lumbar support. Definitely get it. It is the least aggressive lumbar support that I've ever experienced. I've never used lumbar previously this was perfect.
thx for the video. I've got myself a Halo Version and I'm very happy with it. btw is Vegan Leather a fancy word for Trashy Fake Leather? Does anyone know how long is guarantee on this so called Vegan Leather material?
@@Ahnestly 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Fair point, lmao. Olive green is one of my favorite colors because I'm really into military surplus and history, and I only know hunter green because we used to have our downstairs bathroom painted in that color.
Clarification: The Master Chief edition Fern's seat uses real, Full Grain Aniline dyed leather. You can ask any of their representatives to check on their website.
@@Ahnestly Digi Tweed is a premium fabric option for the Fern. It is highly textured, yet not scratchy on sensitive skin; comes with a stain repellant finish; is decently breathable; and is about 50/50 recycled polyester.
Did you sit on or use other Fabrics? I know different Fabrics can tremendously impact the stiffness or softness of chair cushion? I have Tellure Fabric on my Fern and it appears to breathable and not scratchy.
@@thewhitewolffl Tellure was actually the favorite fabric of the employees at the store I went to. Despite working on commissions and it being the cheapest option, they pushed it a lot, even with their corporate clients. IMO Tellure feels like an elevated version of a foam office chair seat whereas Digi Tweed feels like a premium fabric recliner/sofa. Tried the leather option too, but I live in a hot area, so that was an instant no.
Unlikely to be anytime soon, as the material which forms the Digital Knit configuration is currently banned in the EU for failing their stringent safety tests.
@@milkmanfitness the fern is well known to have a seat gap in the butt area when you scooch the seat pan all the way out. I discovered that I could not feel a gap on the Xbox version, but I can feel a gap on my regular digital knit at home.
@@Ahnestly I think you misunderstood, he dislikes the haworth ferns or even the brand. not the video. You can get a fern, but only the normal with limited options (no digital knit) and no xbox version. I really want a normal fern with digital knit.
You can probably buy a Kinnarps chair in Europe , which look incredible, and kind look like a Fern chairs. I wish we had Kinnarps here in the USA to try and buy!
Steelcase used to pull the same shit as well, but they recently changed their attitude by once again offering 12 years (and even a lifetime warranty) on almost all parts, except the fabric.
Can anybody explain why these chairs have shot up in price in the last 2 years? They can't blame it on covid anymore. It just seems like greed on manufacturers' part. I need a new chair for pc gaming and watching tv, but I don't want to pay for an overpriced chair. Btw, I looked at the open box returned Ferns on Crandall, and they still seem overpriced, compared to new ones only 2 years ago.
Every major chair manufacturer raised their prices and they never came back down 😞only when demand slows will they bring it down again. Also, Crandall def not overpriced IMHO. Sub $1,000 Digital Knit ferns = win. The only downside is the no returns and 2 year warranty, but I love Crandall Office.
@@Ahnestly I never meant to suggest that Crandall was overpricing their chairs. In fact, I had planned to get a Fern from them. But as I can't afford one, I'm going with a remanufactured Leap. I just need to use your affiliate link. 🍻
I have the embody and just received the Fern. The Fern quality is so poor... came broken and feels like a very cheap office chair. I knew in the first minute of sitting on it that it was going back. It's a shame that my gf's Secret Lab feels like it's such higher build quality.
