Haydon Hydronic Heat Baseboard Installation

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@abbyjackson7943 2 года назад

*Install was easy **fireplace.homes** good although I personally had some difficulty with the thermostat I had. Issue was mine though, not realizing that electric heaters couldn't use oil thermostats. Tip: If you are using an external thermostat, run the power to the thermostat, not the unit. Once that was squared away it worked great.*

@jeffcoolhd 6 лет назад

CB-1 and CB2 love it love it love it another satisfied customer

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

CB2 smile your on camera....lol

@alextforever8496 6 лет назад

Good morning Plumber, Plumbers Apprentice. Well done CB2 tight fit for a big lad. Keep chuckling Chucky.

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

oh yes....youth has its advantages

@kylemierau6367 6 лет назад

10:45 I had some joker at a reno raise the floor over 1" with subfloor, tile, and grouted the holes shut all over the guys finished basement below. watching this you really make a guy want pro press on baseboards haha cheers

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

yes.....always the case......

@jasonjordan6435 6 лет назад

Glad I’m not the only one using the stiffing fittings that insert in the baseboard. I love press

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

Pro Press is Godly!

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

I was just informed of them. Never used em before. no problems yet.....hmmmmm now I gotta check em out

@jasonjordan6435 6 лет назад

Chuck Barron they are awesome. There a vieaga part. You cut the bell end off the pipe on the baseboard and insert then you can press a fitting over the insert while it’s in the pipe. Makes it so the baseboard doesn’t crush. I use them every time now.

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

Thanks jason. Im on it for some stock and especially for a base job.

@mazzmari 6 лет назад

Looks good.

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

Thanks Mazz...we plugging along

@armandomadrigal9793 6 лет назад

Very very!! Interesting stuff Cb, the things , fun things we do for plumbing. You should add "above & beyond", to your intro, right after the good, bad and ugly. Thank u sir

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

man...the fun continues

@ratchriat1716 6 лет назад

cb1 and cb2 top work

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

trying everyday.....thanks ratch

@leonelramirez3231 5 лет назад

Great video. Job looks great. If you have the supply and return coming from wall and not ceiling. Is it possible to run the lines above or below element inside the basbaoard? Is there enough room? In my case it is a tight spot to come out from behind walls so I have to some how loop around the element before exiting behind the baseboard?

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

yes above the element. only thing is it restricts louver a little bit.

@kylemierau6367 6 лет назад

love those messed up hubs on the baseboard, nothing the old copper cutters cant fix

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

yes sir......

@throttlebottle5906 6 лет назад

some of us prefer sweating still :)

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

yes sir

@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 2 года назад

Are those crimp fittings more reliable than say a brazed joint? I fully understand that the crimping method is WAY faster and easier but just on a DIY level, what would you recommend? I don't mind brazing copper.

@trashpanda2396 2 года назад

That tool is expensive. Nothing wrong with soldering I prefer it for some things. Pro press is permanent. If soldered it can be undone if needed down the road.

@patricksimone1238 6 лет назад

Hey chuck this video really aggravates me lol,I just did baseboards in a basement job I’m doing and a lot of it,my supply house told me I couldn’t propress them because the copper was to soft,is that true?i soldier all those joints it sucked lol

@toddmendoza1296 6 лет назад

PATRICK SIMONE wow never sweat do ya

@patricksimone1238 6 лет назад

Todd Mendoza not going to lie buddy,propress made me lazy lol,I like to sweat pipes but this particular job had cedar reclaimed walls,even though there is metal behind the torch still a little scary

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

man that is news to me on pressing baseboard. I have done some work with it. Nothing major but Im gonna look into it.

@DominicSpucches 9 месяцев назад

man said, no leaky leaky

@ChuckBarron 9 месяцев назад

this time! ha.

@DominicSpucches 9 месяцев назад

@@ChuckBarron thanks for the video though, im replacing my heaters within the next week or so.

@nealdownhomeimprovementnea4087 Год назад

I'm in Royal Oak ,Michigan and i live in a condo I've had sooo many companies come out and look at my base Board Heat and they just can't get it right the base board gets warm but the unit is still cold. I need a good company or someone that knows what they're doing.

@ChuckBarron 10 месяцев назад

Sounds like you need heat calculation done on living space to include energy audit on walls, windows ect.

@nelsonechevarria7009 4 года назад

Good morning Chuck,do the brass inserts always have to be used when pressing fittings on baseboard haeter sections or only when we see that the copper pipe in the baseboard heater is thin copper pipe?I'm asking because I have hydronic baseboard heating here in my house and I've never dealt with baseboard heating until now.I saw you use brass inserts in another video where you installed baseboard heaters with your press tool but I didn't see you use the brass inserts in this video.Thanks in advance.

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

Yes they do! I learned the hard way.

@NHPlumber 4 года назад

The inserts are needed because the copper is very thin and when the press tool squeezes the fitting it will bend the pipe too much and not make a good connection with the o-ring against the copper. The insert makes the pipe more rigid.

@dougdesaint9474 Год назад

I didn’t see the inserts , I was saying to myself gonna be a leaker , lol

@mhess427 6 месяцев назад

Can you recommend a brand that have nice sturdy covers? I dont want that tin foil flimsy radiator cover.

@floatingclouds1 2 года назад

Hi there! I am wondering what is the name of the tool you are using to puncture the initial holes in the metal before using the screws to mount. Also what type of screws are you using to mount?

@dc6233 Год назад

Use a drill bit, or a nail, it's just a clearance hole. Then use whatever screw you have that will reach the studs, probably a 2" or 2 1/2" sheetrock screw, decking screw, whatever, doesn't matter...

@RichTheitalianplumber 5 лет назад

Did u use the baseboard stiffners inside your baseboard element Viega recommends using them and also say baseboard heat is to thin to pro press without them ??

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

No I did not. I found out here on channel about them. I have done 4-6 jobs without and no problems but moving forward I will indeed use em.

@sal.pizzurro 4 года назад

@@ChuckBarron I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I didn't use them

@StreetLethalRacing 5 лет назад

Chuck, forgive the newbie question, but when you used that power tool to join the copper tubing by press fitting them together, does this eliminate the need to solder them? Does it create a strong, or just as strong leak free seal? Thanks...

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

street, yes indeed. no solder, no smoke, no flux, no fire alarms going off, no burning stuff by accident. its excellent.

@leonelramirez3231 5 лет назад

Love my propress

@MakersMike Год назад

What’s that tool called?

@dc6233 Год назад

@@MakersMike ProPress, they guy above answered you... Very expensive tool, very expensive fittings. But, lots of benefits to using them...

@johnc1280 2 года назад

So I have about 16 feet of baseboard heating in my living room, Pex , it’s constantly popping and snapping. Last year we even changed out the entire boiler with fresh water. There’s no bleeders on these heaters either. What could be the issue

@dc6233 Год назад

IT needs to be bled in your basement at the boiler. There are usually fittings on the boiler for that purpose, watch some videos on bleeding/purging... But, don't over pressure the boiler, be careful. There are no fittings on your heaters because 1 - they aren't needed, 2 - each 90 with a bleeder is a heck of allot more money to use...

@michelle-xh3fz 3 года назад

Oh Lord I took mine off well someone else took mime off and now I have no idea of how to get them back on. So her i am watching and mine arent exactly like this im afraid

@ChuckBarron 3 года назад

yup...big job if you never done it.

@redanjin 11 месяцев назад

Can these be put together with Plex and shark bites?

@ChuckBarron 10 месяцев назад

No. Heat uses a special grade pex. Not sure on sharks....I would not

@AlexM-yl9jw Год назад

No air vent?

@earthling2007 3 года назад

No soldering the joints? Why not? Crimping just as good a deal?

@ChuckBarron 3 года назад

Once you press. its hard to go back...

@rumsiker 3 года назад

Number one they are working with out tools, #2 the heaters backings should be screwed flat straight rite on top of the baseboard level , A' give room for cleaning and vacuuming under B" the more air get in from under the more heat comes off the top and first of all they are not installing level or pitched to return this system will trap air all over there will be crackling every time the heater go on making your dreams short .

@ChuckBarron 3 года назад

not sure where you're plumbing but this system still cranking out the heat brother.

@hmdwn 4 года назад

No more sweating the fittings with lead??? Serious question, coming up on 40 years that my father and I built the house I'm about to move back into. All Slantfin hot water copper baseboard heat with a gas fired boiler in a two story 3,500 sqf house. I wanted to replace and upgrade the current 38 year old Crown Boiler with a new more effeciant Beduras 85% but HVAC contractors are putting the FEAR in me saying "a new boiler could cause leaks in the loops and it could happen at any time being the copper and lead sweated fittings are almost 40 years old"...seriously??? They want to install a Fujitsu heat pump mini ducted, inverter type forced air for heat and AC.

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

They selling you the fear....Negative on their fearful tactics. kind of cheesy but sounds like you already smell a rat. new boiler fine. air test your loops....never heard of that theory but then again I do not sell heat pumps....lol...hit me up anytime Ray Ray!

@hmdwn 4 года назад

@@ChuckBarron ...installed a Crown ARW105 gas fired boiler myself. It took sometime running for fittings, ball valves etc but I saved over $10,000 doing it with a friend (steam fitter). Have about $2,700 into the total job...working like a charm! Next April; installing central AC in my house without existing ductwork. Two Trane XR16 side cooling condensers, 2-variable speed air handlers one in attic-down, for second floor bedrooms and bathrooms, one in basement-up to all first floor rooms. Should be a fun job and saving $$$$$$$ by doing it myself.

@allenjames5629 5 лет назад

Im sure they do but does press have a coin vented 90° for the baseboard heat...wondering i know the water o-rings are blue or black but do they have a edpm for high temp...just wondering if it matters??? Thanks

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

not sure. I would call there tech line for sure. you know the story....manufactures warranty...famous last words.

@georgiapapadakis5232 4 года назад

Can you replace just the back bit that attaches to the wall

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

you can but gonna look like crap especially if your trying to do without drain heat. Be very careful. No Leaky Leaky from pulling cover off or installing. Have a plumber on Stand by just in case.

@Juststartingout768 4 года назад

Oh. The cover you out on doesnt attach to the actual heating element so I thought it would a simple case of unscrewing it and putting a new enclosure on

@unprofessionalmechanic8466 4 года назад

Snips? Are we in 17th century? I am very very far from plumbing business but can reassure you that disc grinder will do 100 times better job without disturbing geometry of those panels. I understand that side covers will hide sloppy sutting job but anyway, disc grider is a bit more efficient too.

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

Well on this job. i went old school and yes maybe the disc be getter but The Ridgid 614 Chop saw is where we really get er done.

@briandenapoli3250 5 лет назад

Amazed you didn't need an brass insert for propress on baseboard should crush the thin wall

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

yes. I did not know about them until all the viewers told me about them. I do now.

@RadicallyLowly 5 лет назад

What is the name of that Crimping tool for compressing the copper pipes together? Is this better than doing it the old fashion way with the flame 🔥 and solder❓

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

this is what i use. kit.com/ChuckBarron/pro-press-gear

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

soldering is a must know for all plumbers.

@TheBreezing 5 лет назад

Not to criticize or anything but i feel that filling the boiler system through the washing machine hose is not a good idea. The boiler is meant to function at around 12-15 psi i believe. The pressure at the wash machine outlet could be higher considering it is street pressure. The boiler feed valve is a pressure reducing valve usually reducing to 12psi. The expansion tanks are usually precharged at 12 psi i believe. Im not 100% sure but the greater pressure may cause stress or failure of relief valve which is set for 30psi and expansion tank.

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

back in spring I had to test baseboard I installed. The fill was bad so I backfilled through boiler drain from washer box to get the test done. I never open er up for your exact reasons above and always watch the gauge. its a nice cheat when your stuck.

@jamesgillies3710 5 лет назад

best to purge with city pressure to get all the air out of the system. Then set your fill pressure regulator to 12-15.

@dc6233 Год назад

You watch the pressure gauge as you go ya meathead, it's not hard. At least the guy found a workaround with that boiler jammed in that hole they call a utility room...

@iceman846 Год назад

Not enough heat in that bathroom, should have put a runtal towel rack heater there

@lagg-alot8308 3 года назад

Why did you jam the heater right up against the tub?

@dc6233 Год назад

He didn't he had to go with where it was roughed in and things may have changed a bit. Only the end cover is "jammed" next to the tub if you want to look at it that way...

@shapst3838 5 лет назад

I always wonder how long it takes you to do each job.

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

depends...they all different

@shapst3838 5 лет назад

Do you give a flat rate? Or hourly?

@MrMjn5000 4 года назад

nice job :)

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

Thank you! Cheers! Next stop 5 Mill.

@rainmaker3700 4 года назад

Nice, should have changed out that boiler too . Always got to upsell! :)

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

Service over sales for me. Boiler is good.

@rainmaker3700 4 года назад

@@ChuckBarron At some point, you are doing them a favor by replacing.

@Rainmaker88 4 года назад

there’s nothing wrong with the boiler, sales tech.

@BlisterHiker 5 лет назад

Good job, interesting video, but that music creeping in background can become annoying after some time...

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

thanks...Im toning down tunes and appreciate the input.

@M.H312 4 года назад

@@ChuckBarron How would you install that with pex?

@limountainman 4 года назад

I don't have that tool...showing it with normal sweating would of been helpful

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

roger that.

@XSR_RUGGER 3 года назад

I mean, I imagine it would be the same fittings but sweated on. Not too complicated to envision.

@TheMrRoOpS 4 года назад

How much is it for a project like this?

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

This was quite the project for sure with boiler and wall to wall baseboard.

@tommytomtomt 3 года назад

plumbers aint gona make a house visit for under 500 ....anywheres lol , do it yourself

@briandenapoli3250 5 лет назад

And now i see 47 other people said it lol my bad

@ChuckBarron 5 лет назад

all good. lol

@J-Colt 6 лет назад

Always take advantage when you have a flexible body around, lol.

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

CB2 stay light on your toes too....stay light son

@brezzz0077 6 лет назад

I only hire skinny helpers

@ChuckBarron 6 лет назад

plumbing is like boxing-only welter weights please

@buzoff4642 3 года назад

Awful design. Flange on the top rusts in bathrooms, no way to get the back piece off the wall to repaint it.

@ChuckBarron 3 года назад

only spot if i recall buz

@CryianSky 4 года назад

to be honest, is that hidden camera show? Coz by seeing how they work - would never hire them at all! So unprofessional, using wrong tools for most of jobs, and so badly trained, that probably theythink this is ok to upload on youtube?! Thanks, will try to stay away from you lol

@ChuckBarron 4 года назад

Ya your on candid camera! lol