HBO's "A Game of Thrones" Ned and Jaime meet - TheOneRing.net 

GODS HE WAS GOOD THEN !

Theons actor? Charles Dance/Tywin?

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Simon Lu. Aiden sucks after s1, he sounds like an irish pirate

@@TheSnowfail Charles Dance is good at playing Tywin Lannister type characters and thats about it.

I think it's jaimes way of trying to impress Ned somewhat

Tsundere Jaime

Agreeeee

I think it's miscommunication because Ned despises him. I actually feel bad for Jaime because I thought he was being friendly and Ned just wants to rub him off. Hehe

It’s not a kid thing is a male thing, we all do it lol

Yellowbyte well he must be a fuckin champion

Well Said.

Yellowbyte hahaha

Because when I fart on a man for real...

...I don't want him to know how bad it smells.

This Is literally true, as making Ned book accurate would be goofy for an actor as Sean Bean, so they decided make him pretty good as a warrior

@@martingenero6328 Ned in the books was a competent swordsman just like any man of his birth would be. He likely was quite skilled as he beat ser Arthur Dayne, ser Gerold Hightower and ser Oswels Whent. Granted it was 7 on 3 but Arthur and Gerold were top knights of their age (although Gerold was well past his prime) and Oswald also was likely a great swordsman

@@tuplat5107 you're insane and very wrong.

@@shooshooshooshooshooter just out of curiousity, what did I say to warrant being declared insane?

@@tuplat5107 Ned skill wasn't what kept him alive against those 3.

"I dun wan eet!'

MUH KWEEN

McQueen

mah queen*

S6-7 ‘I need alaaiees’

Didn't read the books, but does Jaime ever question Ned Stark "beating" Arthur Dayne? I mean, we all know how it happened now, but Jaime looked up to Arthur Dayne saying he could cut through this generation of kingsguard with his left hand while taking a piss. But, since only Howland Reed and Ned know what happened, then wouldn't the rest of Westeros think Ned Stark is a pretty skilled warrior, despite it being 3 vs 7

Paul Schlacter No I don't think he does. Good question though. In all of Jaime's chapters I don't think he ever thinks about Ned Stark's defeat of Dayne. He doesn't think of Ned much at all. He probably knew it was mostly chance that Ned defeated him considering it was 3 against 7. In real battles, anything can happen. Being the best doesn't guarantee anything.

Book Jamie always wanted Ned's respect and resented him for not receiving it.

Christian Robinson of course he does he kill sir arther fucking dayne the badass sword of the morning

Akatsuki016 howland Reed stabbed him in the back first.

When I first watched this episode over 10 years ago, I could not make out this line.

@@thegoodgeneral English is not my native language. I had to rewatch the pilot 2-3 times before I could continue. The last time I added english subtitles and that changed everything. Especially since there are so many names, families and mumbling.

Jaime: And that's why I was varsity and you'll always be JV.

@@georgeprchal3924 He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

yeah for some reason i have trouble understanding the last part of what he is saying lmao

Hmm

He moves left , and in the other frame he dont move right he moves back to his first position

+Crichjo32 A bit late to clarify, but he says: "When I fight a man for real, I don't want him to know what I can do"

Crichjo32 and Tyrion is not a great commander

@@TROONTRON A bit too late to say thanks, but i do because i also couldn't understand what he was saying lmfao

Lmao im American and never had a problem

@@kefkapalazzo1 What's being American have to do with it? I had to look through the comments to find out what he said, since it came out as a mumble to me.

You mean big boss from mgs? Because he really looks like him.

Punished Wolf

You are right how did I miss that

LMFAO yeah wow

Good spot

"That boy had wanted to be Ser Arthur Dayne, but someplace along the way he had become the Smiling Knight instead." -Jaime Lannister

That's pointless though, as Ned was old at this point

Ned should be 35 at this point, Jaime only a few years younger. At least that’s what I know from the books.

​@@noahlarose7371Jaime was 38 here

think Neds supposed to be about 40 here, Jaimie a few years younger. At the rebellion he was supposedly around early 20s.@@noahlarose7371

And guess who killed Arthur Dayne ;D

KatakiDoragon Ned was actually going to be killed by Arthur if Rowland Reed didn't interrupt...

Ragnar Atmoran True. Though I always interpreted the stories that Ned could at least hold his own against him.

Ragnar Atmoran The latest book 'A World of Ice and Fire' actually implies that Ned defeated him in single combat. Reed did show up and possibly saved Ned's life but it is not clear how? Makes for interesting debates. Ned was better than most thought.

KatakiDoragon nope howland reed stab arthur dayne in the back

Only the north believes the story of Ned killing Dayne. In the history book of the Kingsguard, it just says that Dayne was killed by a party led by Ned Stark.

Not fighting in tournaments, so that none could see that you are just above average.

@@neutronalchemist3241 yep

@@saminhuq8469 That's in the show. In the books Ned's fighting skill is average for a trained nobleman or just above the average, and GRRM openly confirmed it. Arya even recalls to have seen Winterfell's master of arms beating Ned and one of his friends (I don't recall who) at the same time in training.

Jaime provokes Ned cuz he still pissed that "the wolf judged the lion" when he killed the mad king.

Starks: We're blood of the First Men... Lannisters: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so are we the Ironmen, and the Dornish.

⁠@@georgeprchal3924Lannisters don’t have any Dornish and they’re also part first men. Not trynna be rude

@@georgeprchal3924nah man, they have the blood of the Andals in them.

@@jacobsaunders1092 but descend from the First Men just like the others mentioned, yeah they intermarried with them but whatever.

@@georgeprchal3924 nah man, they are literally descendent from the andals

Lollll

Ah yes, Ned most dangerous newly learned technique: SNORING!

what does he say really?

@addyreports thank you

Sounds like something Bruce Lee would say

@DisLB And her TT I TS

Even Jaime’s reaction was “Well Said”. Yes It Is such a Great Badass Quote by Sean Bean’s Ned Stark.

@@cameronturk4388 From Jaimes pov is like the stupides thing anyone can say.

No one doesn’t think he’s a good swordsman, I think it’s fair to say he certainly is, but he’s more of a leader and a lord, whilst Jaime is just some grunt who swings a sword well and bangs his sister.

I don't think Ned has the genetics of either Jaime or Robert.

I doubt he believed Ned was the Knight of the Smiling Tree. The knight was recognised to be very short, Sean Bean is 5'10 so that rules him out.

@@wimschmied3800 Ned isn't Sean Bean.

@@marty2090 Yes but Ned shares the same physical characteristics as Sean Bean because he's the actor of Ned.

Lmao what golden mane?

You are wrong. The morality in Westeros has everything to do with honor, and breaking an oath is one of the most dishonorable things one can do. Even the fact that the Mad King murdered Ned's father and brother doesn't make Ned any more sympathetic to Jaime's kingslaying.

The Painkiller Ned would've understood what Jaime did if he knew the story behind the mad king's murder.

If you put it that way then Ned and Jaime should have been best mate since Jaime avenged Ned's brother and father deaths by killing the Mad King. So i don't think that could have changed a thing

@@thepainkiller4939 actually now we know that ned did something dishonorable himself when his sister died, he probably would have understand.

If it was post-Brienne Jaime, he and Ned would have at least been getting along fine if not became closer. It's not like Ned has some particularly high standards in other people; he trusted Baelish! He was pretty understanding and forgiving for all of his honor. Too bad Jaime remained a cunt for 100% of Ned's lifetime.

There was also the fact that Jaime was only named to the Kingsguard so Aerys could ensure Tywin's loyalty, by basically keeping Jaime in the capital as a hostage.

Jason Barnes Knowing that Tywin's troops had just betrayed the Mad King by sacking King's landing,I don't blame Ned for thinking that Jaime killed Aerys because he was siding with Tywin rather than Aerys.It was Jaime's job to explain to Ned what happened and why he killed the mad king.Ned's a reasonable person who knew nothing of Jaime before that moment so I think Ned would've understood if Jaime had told him.Notice how Ned isn't mad at the kingsguard at the tower of Joy since he knew the real story about Rhaegar and Lyanna.

Humility

The best character development in the show.

@@1Chasg not anymore

they fucked him up lollll

Losing a hand AND meeting Brienne

Agreed If you actually watch this without the eye of "Jamie is a sister fucking bastard" You notice that he's actually quite a fan of Ned. The only thing he says that's actually insulting is "getting a little old for it" which isn't even that much of an insult.

@@thebobbrom7176 In the books he is actually quite intimidated by Ned and wants his respect because he believes Ned killed his mentor Arthur Dayne in single combat

I think this is one of the scenes that was originally shot for the pilot

Yeah you can tell which scenes were the original pilot by Ned’s hair

@@sarahwithadragon6729 It's a shame we'll never get to see just how bad it was lol

Yeah, just too honorable to co habitat with an oath breaker. He thinks very VERY low of Jaime in the books, so low that we pity Jaime through the books and also the show, he becomes a very likeable character.

@@MrKataclisma From what he knows, Jaime stabbed the mad king because the rebels were winning and he wanted to save his ass. He knows nothing of the wildfire.

ned has a regulated nervous system, and jaime is a dysregulator for him

Who is Jesus Christ Jamie?

He doesn't want everyone to know he's just above average

They probably would've in season eight, or, they would've started talking about pubic hairs and cocks.

😂😂😂😂

They nerfed him worse than they did Jon and Tyrion.

Arthur Dayne and Barristan Selmy were in that rare Achilles territory. Jaime had the early promise, but might not have been any better ultimately than Loras Tyrell. He even compares himself with Loras in the books after assuming the post of Lord Commander of the King's Guard. Dayne was tops, especially with Dawn in hand. Barristan was close, maybe as good, but he didn't have a meteorite sword (Dawn) or even Valyrian Steel, so he'd go down if he and Dayne fought in their primes. And Jaime is clearly at the head of the the rest, while Ned....not so much.

Ned was a good swordsmen. Jaime was an exceptional swordsman.

@@zadenwachter9918 Small hands, that was his problem.

Yeah he had to work real hard to be born with that hair and bone structure LMFAOOOOOOO

He said "I don't fight in tournaments because when I fight a man for real, I don't want him to know what I can do."

I didn' catch it at first either, I had to read the comments to get it right. Is this because English isn't my first language or did English speakers have this problem here too?

lets just say irish scottsmen and maybe brits are the only nations who are able to catch that line

@@nonyanonya6292 Let's just say you're wrong; I'm a New Zealander and I understood him perfectly!

@@marcushendriksen8415 South African and same. I was confused by how many people didn't 😂 but English can be difficult to understand

true

they did share a mutual respect, Ned respects Jamie for his decision of betraying a tyrant and Jamie respects Ned for the trident battle because Ned could held himself against the best swordsman ever, Arthur Dayne, the thing is Jamie loves Tyrion way more than he respects Ned, that is why he attacked Ned (and producers purposely made Ned equal to Jamie), but in the books, Jamie didn't even fight Ned and Ned had a horse fall that shattered his leg. All of these events unfolded in the death of Ned, if Jamie never showed up to fuck with Ned, the Starks would've lead the battalion against Gregor Clegane, fall into Tywin's trap and be used as a trade coin for Tyrion.

in an alternate timeline. ned and jaime were fostered together and become the best of friends. would love that timeline. tywin probably joins the stark forces after leaving aerys since aerys kills neds dad and brother.

Original Pilot scene

"I don't snore I can know" 😂 The captions make me laugh.

@@H.K.5 loool

jenan savanath Na Ned’s not blonde enough

Nah. Everyone knows lannisters are more likely to have sex with their relatives.

@@finnheisenheim8274 Nope. Those are Targaryens.

What war did your beloved Jamie participate other than backstabing his own king ? I still give it to Ned tho. He is battle hardened and has fought Ser Dayne face to face in a death combat. It was not just demo or exhibition.

the first episode is edited with footage from the original pilot and the reshot pilot (with different actors) some scenes with actors who remained unchanged have their scenes from the original pilot (which was shot a year earlier) in the first episode. sean bean here isnt wearing his Ned wig and looks a year younger i guess..

What original plot is that?

@@alexandrel6344 the pilot episode which was then almost completely refilmed and is now Ep. 1

wp25 You think the honorable Ned Stark wanted to hear Jaime’s side of it? He judged him guilty the moment he laid eyes on him. By what right does the wolf judge the lion? _By what right??!_

On the wiki, that's the analysis that's given for him. Jaime Lannister had looked up to Ned Stark since he was a boy. Even Arthur Dayne respected Ned for his unflinching sense of honor and loyalty.

IMO both on the books as on the show Ned would'nt think differently of Jaime even tho he broke his oath cuz mad king was going to burn the city, Ned is a character constructed to be the most honorable man in Westeros, your words, vows and loyalty mean everything to him is even above family, so no, he would have respected Jaime more if he kept his oath as a kingsguard.

@@MrKataclisma False. Ned considers morality more important than honor. It isn't honorable to lie about the origin of Jon snow, but it is morally right. It isn't honorable to try to protect people from the king(Tommen, Myrcella and still jon snow), but it is moral. It isn't honorable to falsely confess treason, but it is moral to save your daughters in the process. Unlike someone like Barristan, if he was a King's guard, he wouldn't have stand and let the mad king do these horrible actions, he would have abandonned his position and defy him no matter the consequences. So yes, he would have supported Jaime's reasons.

Honestly that was a really stupid addition of the show. This is a 7 vs 3 situation, of course this won't be a fair fight, why was Bran surprise, why would anyone be surprise?

Except Ned never claimed to have defeated Arthur Dayne in single combat. And Howland Reed stabbing Ser Arthur in the back was not dishonourable, that was not an oficial duel or trial by combat. What was Howland suposed to do? Let his best friend die? Plus Ned doesn't like fighting for entertainment hence why he never takes part in tourneys.

maybe his dumbass should’ve just told ned