HBO's "Game of Thrones" - George R.R. Martin Interview with Walt Mossberg 

Dizzy Blu Yeah, kinda like, hey guys, did we do a mic check? Final adjustment seemed okay after the first 15 minutes or so. Couldn't even hear Benioff's first answer.

jhamptonjr I think he just went "fuck it", maybe they werent paying him/her enough or he was getting laid.

exactly!! I instantly checked the channel, I thought I stranded on a poor channel with a bad copy....but NO...they messed it up with their own tech.

How do you feel now?

@@Slechy_Lesh I'm not saying they didn't drop the ball in a major way, but this statement was correct at the time that it was made, the problem was the man sitting in the middle, as he himself has admitted started saying yes to doing everything else under the sun that he was asked to do, which was not smart when he admits that he is a slow writer already. What became clear is that they were exhausted from having worked on the show for 11 years straight if you count pre production and the unaired pilot. But I do think if book six had been done at the same pace as book 4 or 5, and if he'd be on good track to almost be finished if not finished by the time the final season came around. They would have done the correct choice and felt forced to either do the 10-13 seasons it should have gone, or handed the showrunning duties down to people who would have been more than qualified having worked on the show. It's not like HBO didn't offer them a real writers room so they could have been fixing scripts and revised them like most showrunners do rather than writing 95% of them on top of doing all the other things on the production side that is required. You go back and look at the first 4 seasons there are a ton of scenes that are not in the books that are some of the best scenes of the entire show. But they also had guardrails to work within and they were scenes that you could easily imagine happened but because of the POV structure we just never got to see them. Neither of them had done any of the jobs that they were doing on the show, the closest thing was having the 25th hour turned into a movie, and still the first 4 seasons are on the level of the best HBO has to offer. But what became clear is that they were great at adaptation, the problems started once they had to make completely new material, even then. While it was noticeable that there wasn't the exact same quality writing, I felt they could still pull it off until we got halfway through season 7. It was strange to have a shorter season when you had so much story to tell, and the frozen lake episode just broke every game of throne convention in a bad way. People spent entire seasons getting from A to B travelling beyond the wall, somehow managed to do it in 20 minutes. The whites can't swim, but also where able to find giant chains out of thin air, go down to the bottom of the lake, put them around a dragons neck so the night king could bring it back. When we have seen the them raise the dead by just raising their hands. That is when I had a sinking feeling that they were rushing, season 8 being even shorter didn't quench that feeling but I held out hope. If anything both season 7 and season 8 should have had 16 episodes each because I do believe that if you take the actual story beats, what happened is something I could see happen. Besides the frozen lake episode that is the worst episode of game of thrones ever, it makes no sense in any way shape or form there had to be a better way to give them a dragon. The problem was the way they went about those things, not enough time to give them real character development that made what happened feel earned. And the plot armor got insane, I should not have been able to predict exactly which characters were going to die at the battle of winterfell.

"Deadwood" was one of the worst of the "nothing ever happens!" dramas, though. In GoT almost too much happens. Until you get to "Feast for Crows" when ASIAF basically contracts the same disease...

gibberconfirm Hardly. _A Feast for Crows_ has tons of important setup. The biggest problem with AFFC is it's only half of the story. You really need _A Dance with Dragons_ for the developments in that book to really make sense.

gibberconfirm You've never actually seen Deadwood have you? Go watch it. You'll love it.

Make a *TV SERIES* about Robert's rebellion.

Andrew Lastrollo long live Robert Baratheon!

We now know so much about the rebellion, so I don't know ... But spin off Tv series about Doom of Valerya might be pretty interesting.

Andrew Lastrollo i just noticed that dan and David are shopping together they have the same shirt and jacket

If I have learn something about Hollywood is that when something is succesful they will keep squeezing it until makes no more. So I'm pretty sure we will see a lot more, wether prequels, sequels, mini series, made for TV movies and maybe big budget movies in the future.

I heard one theory that Jon is actually Ned and Lyanna 's kid but I don't really believe it.

Lots of people believe that theory.

I love looking back on these comments... Haven´t watched the show yet beyond the books but I guess this twist I couldn´t avoid learning about

There's always people bitching about bad interviewers.

vaporized1000 Only it's not their writing. It's George's story they are taking from.

Daniel Hooper his story but THEIR writing. U say we should give george credit for his work and we should but then u proceed to discredit all they ve done. I m gona guess u r book reader. Thats the kind of hypocrisy we alway get from them

Nope. They ruined the show. I have watched almost interview and every after episode talk. All they focus on is their actors talent. About getting a good performance out of them. They rewrite very important things to give their actors something more juicy to bite on. Most writers make it a point to avoid that, and these idiots embraced it?! They don't give Tyrion the funny material from the books, but write in unfunny things to say. They assassinated Stannis. They burned Dorne. They took a dump on Martin's work. And all to win their actors Emmys. Thank God the Emmy voting pool is made up of people who can differentiate between acting and empty emmy-baiting emoting.

Kristína Szabó Right because the book reafers are just a bunch of elitists who don't like when anything is even slightly deviated from the books. I am going to guess you are a more casual fan who watches the show for tits and dragons. That your favorite character is Dany and you assume the throne is rightfully hers. No? Right, because it wouldn't be intelligent to make assumptions. And an intelligent fan you are not.

We still do not know if Jon is R+L...

Probably that's because Ned claimed to be his father?

I think Howland Reed is still alive isn't he? Howland Reed surely knows JS's parentage...

***** nop, dem neck people lord knows, who was with eddard there and together they killed dem white cloaked dudes with a sword of the morning and shit. so he knows and his kids might even know, though they be too north now. we shall see my friend. either him or the lord of 3 sisters be right about the boat woman(doubt it, just rumor and shit). plus some pipsquik told the the little she-wolf da jonnys wet nurse was somewhere ned would be to return morning sword back home, and if baby newborn then, timeline fits. in any case grrm is one magnifisent fat bastard.

***** no he was there you cannot look at the a sing of ice and fire wiki or 're read the chapters cause there's more the one occasion were that event is talked about..he is the only living person who knows

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