HBX 16890SA - 3S ready and nearly indestructible 

I definitely will once I get a 3D printer. 😃 I appreciate that!

I would love to 3d print it but can’t find it!

Same. Can’t find it

@@Andrew-FKF I converted to the eachine ec30 / hbx 1/14 duel chassis and with a little modding it fits the 2200mah 3s

Thanks!! Can’t go wrong with this car!!

You seem to have oBsRVd that well!! 🤣 Thanks man I appreciate that!!

Thanks man!!

Thanks Brian, that’s amazing to hear!! Yes the older models could kind of handle 3s. Mainly because that little red brick esc was death proof lol. I still would get little weird glitches when I tried it, but if I feathered the throttle, it worked ok. This new one is actually designed for it, that’s the only real difference lol

@@DerbyCityRC I would get the same glitches and have to ease into mine as well! When I ran much larger tires, I could not use it at all on 3S because it would create a higher amp draw and literally be like you jammed a stick in the gears when you demanded too much from the ESC… The car would come to a screaming halt!

I did it once with medium tires and it worked pretty well actually lol. Look at this thing!!: ru-vid.comSOmdzT3g07o?si=KpXx9KvLYQAFgP0_

Thanks dude!! 😃

Thanks!!

Thanks Brad!! Certainly a wicked RC!!

Damn. I just bought the 16889a pro :( Should I sell it and buy this SA one?

@@johnmachter40 I have them both ;-) I honestly cant say which one I like better. You cant go wrong with either! They are the same chassis and driveline just the SA is 3s and its nuts!

​@@bradsrcsmore3848is it worth trying the 16889a pro with a 3s battery? is the increase in speed and power a lot or just a tiny bit?

@johnmachter40 I wouldn’t sell it. I would just get a 3s ESC and run it! The paddle tires are cool though. Can’t go wrong with either, but I’d say you did fine!

That’s great to hear! Haha ya the high five was fun. He’s a nice guy! 🤣

It does!! Yet some people get mad at it 🤣

Thanks!!

Oh I know!!! Haha! So cool!! Thanks!!

Yes tons of them! 😂

Thanks!!

Haha! Yes I am Jake Johnson 🤣 The amount of people who tell me this is hilarious lol Thanks man!! 😃

Haha! Yes I am Jake Johnson 🤣 The amount of people who tell me this is hilarious lol Thanks man!! 😃

They’re fun!!

Ha! Yes it should. Thanks man!!

Thanks man!!

Thanks!!

Haha, thanks!!

Glad the review helped! How you guys liking them? I have some comparison/best of videos of different sized cars, but several 1/12 and 1/10 included

Definitely is!!

Haha, thanks!

Thanks 😃

Thanks man!! I may do that! I did this with the 16889a pro a year or so ago. This would likely yield similar results but I probably will still do it lol

Thanks! I didn’t even think about trying the program card. I’ll hVe to do that. Punch does seem a bit low on 2s, nothing bad at all, but could maybe be higher. maybe this is the answer! Definitely agree on the battery tray!

You can program it. Come with the hobbywing manual and you can program with the set button if you don't have a card. Pretty slick!

Awesome!!

Thanks!

😂😅😅 backyard to front yard 😂

Thanks glad to hear that! This is the 3s I used, but it’s not a perfect fit. Usually strap it to the upper plastic brace or put a block of foam in the battery tray and lay the battery on top of that and the servo and strap it with two Velcro straps or one longer one.amzn.to/4a3BdDh Hope that helps!

Crazy enough I don’t think there is. I tried binding it to an older hbx remote that does have speed control and it didn’t work. It bound but the car didn’t know what to do and throttle was completely wacked out. Seems like an oversight on their end. If you like this car, the most similar one with a speed control remote would be the 16890a with the yellow body. Looks like a pretty good price with an extra coupon right now: amzn.to/3RIXpu3 Hope this helps some!

Answered on the other comment 😃😊

Awesome! No that’s not a common issue that I’ve ever heard of! Finally after two years I broke a couple teeth off my spur gear when I had oversized tires on it for most of its life and ran it on 3s when it happened. So who knows it most likely won’t ever happen again lol Ya that SA is a fun one too of course!

Thanks man! No I’ve never replaced the shocks on these. I feel the stock ones are pretty decent 😃

No it’s got the same gears. These have very good gears in them actually. Of course with enough heavy driving they can still wear or break. I have broken a spur gear once when on 3s with an older model, but I think just the once.

​@@DerbyCityRCcould you post the numbers from the manual for this ESC and those paddle tires in this video? I could search for them and put it into my 16889a pro :)

@johnmachter40 here is the ESC: amzn.to/4a4mPJT You would also need a different transmitter, even though they look almost exactly the same, they’re not compatible from my testing. I’d just get this one: amzn.to/4bt6fEN It even has a gyro.

@johnmachter40 and here’s the paddles! amzn.to/4dlmQfz

I like the 2997a more. It’s bigger and has the center diff. More controllable and almost just as durable

Ok thanks is theee any wheelie bar I can put on it?

@liamrobinson1890 I’ve never tried, but probably wouldn’t be too hard to find one that works. Since it has the center diff, it helps keep it from pulling wheelies like I showed in that video. That’s why it doesn’t come with one.

Ok thank you so much

Thanks! It’s extremely similar to the older 16890 and the 16889a models. It’s basically the same. The rear upper control arms are different on the 16890’s than they are on the 16889’s

@@DerbyCityRC Cool. Ordered the 16889a pro (plus HBX 903 tires & 15mm wheel spacers) mainly for jumping. Your videos were very informative and helpful in my decision making. Thanks.

Yes i agree! One of these days I’ll get my MT10E back out 🤣

@@DerbyCityRC I’m going through depression man… Anxiety, fear, anger and a sense of hopelessness. I feel lost and I’m so worried all the time! I feel this is something that we need to talk about more in the RC community! I mean, I know I’ll be OK and the separation anxiety will hopefully one day fade away, but in the meantime I guess I’m just gonna be like the rest of us and wrench, and play, and decide which RC’s are the most important in my fleet and work on my time management skills. It’s just all I can do right now while dealing with this feeling of loss and hopelessness that the REDCAT MT10E is gonna one day be a fleeting and elusive dream! 😊 😂 😢 Remembering the 1st time I saw it back in 2018, and how I debated about buying it for the Next 3 years while my Arrma, Serpent, Losi, Tekno, and Mugen fleet kept growing…. Until 1 day I realized how much I loved my Kaiju and my Dukono and how silly I was for the blatant disregard for this fine machine! Then in the Summer of 2021 that all changed when it arrived at my door step. Skate Park here we come! With a raise of the arms one notch my life forever changed when I found the 1 RC tougher than the Arrma Granite and Tekno MT410. 😢 😂 Let it out man! Don’t be afraid to express yourself the day you find out one of your all time favorite RC’s is being discontinued and there’s very little chance any other company is gonna pick up this design. 😠

Everything will be ok. There’s more fish in the sea! I personally have much hope for the new outcast 4s I ordered 😃 So they are discontinuing it for sure??

@@DerbyCityRC 😂 Yes, they’re definitely discontinuing it but there is hope! Like you said, “there’s more fish in the sea.” Redcat told me what they are replacing it with is gonna be even better! Naturally, I said are you sure? And when they said yes, I said I’m hopeful but I doubt it. 😂 The Arrma 4s is awesome. I had the OG 4s Outcast which is the real v1 from 2019 and it was my 1st Arrma I didn’t like so as soon as the Kaiju dropped in 2019 I sold the Outcast. I don’t have either updated 4s Outcast but I’ve ran the V1 and it’s awesome! You should love it. And although I’m a MT guy for sure the 4s Mohave looks amazing to me. I’m also a bit surprised you don’t have a Kaiju! It’s wicked fast stock, and all I remember it needing is one metal upgrade and then you can widen it and it handles amazing with a tough body. Stock wheels are great too!

Definitely this one. The 1/16 scale hypergos aren’t as durable. The 1/14 HyperGos are a little better but I feel more comfortable with this one.

You still prefer the 16890sa over the 1:14 MJX 14210 or the upgraded H14BM?

Sorry for the late reply. I definitely prefer the 2997a. It’s quite a bit bigger, faster, easier to control, has the center differential and nearly just as durable.

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Not bad at all!!

No this truck is different. Same class and all, but completely different manufacturer 😃

The 16890a is definitely a better choice over the 16889a. But the 16889a PRO would be just as good if not a little better. 😊

I would choose the 2997a. Bigger, faster, handles much better, close to the same durability.

They don’t unfortunately. I’ve tried already and due to the old remotes having a speed knob and the new ones having a throttle trim knob instead, it did not run correctly.

@@DerbyCityRC its a shame...because on amazon they dont include the transmitter in the bundle so it is useless for me...have to find a bundle with esc, receiver and transmitter that fits the chassis and runs on 3s

@farmoboy83 the transmitter doesn’t come with the car?

no, at least the seller doesn't show it...can you recommend a cheap quality combo (esc, receiver and trasmitter) for this 2840 motor that fits the chassis? Extremely happy on 2s but wanted to try 3s from time to time.@@DerbyCityRC

I’d get this hbx over any 1/16 HyperGo. Probably still over the 1/14 scales too. These are just so durable. However if you want to go slightly bigger, check out my video on the hbx 2997a. That one has a center differential and is also built extremely well.

Get this and the 2997a or the newer Rlallo cf and will be happy with any or all imho .

Yup!!

It’s possible the throttle trim is turned too far forward. Could try turning it slightly counter clockwise. Hopefully that does it!

You may have figured it out, but you can program the esc for more brake force. Its default if 25% if i remember correctly and by upping that to 50% will make a huge difference. I changed mine after playing around with it the first time in the house as it would barely stop with very slow speeds.

It’s exceptional!

Yes. I’ve seen them. But I can’t remember which ones. Going to try to find them but they’re out there.

That is pretty much this car right here with some very minor differences. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8l5ghStObnE.htmlsi=AeKWrsKJbUTEuoLw

It’s so similar it might as well be. The rear upper control arms are different, but if you find them, you can even get the 16889a pro arms if you ever break one. I haven’t. This is probably the best of all of them due to the better esc. Only thing about it is, you can’t turn down the speed. Kind of weird and had to be an oversight but it’s stuck at full speed besides just controlling the trigger. Full throttle is full throttle.

⁠@@DerbyCityRCThank you for the reply! I have the 18859A, which I have been enjoying. Do you know if the 16889a pro tires would work on it without hurting the motor? I really want bigger tires on it, as it will help some with ground clearance (and looks), I just don’t want to stress the motor or drivetrain. I know the motors are the same, but not sure how the 16889a pro is geared.

@kendallwilliams8135 I’m not sure if the gearing is different, but I actually put the tires from my 901a on my 18859a a long time ago and it was fine, so I’d say do it! Possible you may need some small hex extenders to keep them from rubbing the body, but maybe not. The bigger the tires the more strain on the drivetrain but these gears are tough!

I think I’ll go for it. Parts are pretty cheap, so why not, haha. I saw that video; those tires looked sweet if it’s the one you’re talking about (reinforcing the bodies). I appreciate you, sir.

@@DerbyCityRCisn’t there a speed trim thing on the transmitter? It doesn’t work? I have a kid and this is kind of a deal breaker. Could you adjust the speed on the other models? The 16889a and 16890 (2s) model?

Thanks! I think it can. Did I not get one in the video? I can’t remember. 3s it for sure could do it but I feel like I got one on 2s also.

I just checked, they’re correct for me 😃😃

I believe the esc and the body color are the only differences. Ya that’s not the best timing but you still got a good one! 😳🤣

@@DerbyCityRC appreciate the info! Great vid as always!

They’re the same other than the esc. The SA model is actually rated for 3s. The A model will take it and work ok, but it’s not really supposed to lol

So I can try the 3S battery you recommend on the A-model… but you wouldn’t recommend it? I just ordered the 3S battery in your video for the SA… but have you tried it on the A? Just don’t want to blow it up! :D. PS: love your channel! @@DerbyCityRC

@steviev2504 correct lol. It would likely be ok but they’re not rated for it lol. I did it in my old 16890 from 2 years ago and my 16889a pro. Basically the same electronics. It can be a bit glitchy but never caused a malfunction. I didn’t do it very often though.

Thanks man! Love the channel; keep up the killer videos and awesome dad jokes!

Well I kinda have. Both of these reviews would be similar or exact to the Jetwood that I’ve seen. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8l5ghStObnE.htmlsi=Bo3L0VVfvvD_Djqp ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7w2ffMKLm3Q.htmlsi=UF3u8CgSJQgcQIb-

Ok yeah I was thinking that too lol. My jetwood literally looks like an exact replica of the MJX hyper go. Your videos are great btw. Keep up the good work👍

I don’t really get that on these unless I put bigger tires in them. It could certainly happen though. I actually need to find a better servo for one of my upgraded 16889, but haven’t really looked yet unfortunately.

No, the 2995/6a/7a dogbones are longer

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To me the SA would be worth it. Better ESC, paddle tires, better looking body in my opinion. Only issue is you can’t turn a knob to slow it down. You can control it with the trigger of course but you can’t lower the top speed with a knob like you can on the “older” models like the 16889a. Hopefully that helps!

Perfect Thank you! That Throttle Knob seems to make a Huge difference and I'm sure even moreso for Newbs. Maybe I'll start w the 89A and get used to controls then go for the Newer one Lol oR.... Just go for it. More than appreciate your time Brother

Sorry @DerbyCityRC... One more question. You have a video that has links to the upgrades for the 89A Pro.... Would those be appropriate for the 90??

Well those upgrades are pretty much all already on the 16890A and the SA so you shouldn’t need those (if I’m right on what you’re talking about) You really don’t need both of those, I’d choose one of them, the 89a, 90a or 90sa, and then for your next car get something different. Those three are all pretty similar.

Thank you Brother went w the 90A Should be here tmro

Yes this is new. I don’t have the previous version but it wasn’t supposed to be 3s capable, though some say it works. This one is actually designed that way. Only other difference I believe is the body color. This is the 16890SA, older model was just the 16890A lol

@@DerbyCityRC maybe they used a similar body/color scheme 🤔

@mrzionist ya they did. I linked them both in the description but the other one is yellow this one is green.

They are different companies. I find these have a bit better durability.

It was around 38° that day. Last Monday. Every day since then it’s luckily been in the 50s lol

Ok, just bought myself first modern basher and it is 14 (or -10celcius), wondering about the plastics. Maybe waiting to get bit warmer..

This is the only one I know of: amzn.to/4bdks8i I use a slightly bigger one and strap it to the upper chassis brace but that’s it a great idea in my opinion. I don’t have this one but seems like the best option.

@@DerbyCityRC thanks dude! Ordered.

@kmoyer11 you’re welcome!!

Haha! Thanks!

I run mine 3s.. got it when it first came out as well.

May I also which 3s battery you used?

I’ve don’t it on my original 16890 and on my 16889a pro. It works but was always a little glitchy. Had to feather the throttle or it would cut out.

Ya it works on the older models but can be glitchy. This new esc handles it a bit better lol. Wish they added a center diff lol

@runpuppyfpv5744 these are the ones I used in the video, but I know there are some out there that actually fit. amzn.to/48tBpue

Yup! They’re very different cars, this one just doesn’t have as fast of a motor

I don’t believe it’s available there yet. Probably will be eventually. Only Amazon for now as far as I know.

@@DerbyCityRC ah okay. I hope so. Thank you!

You’re welcome!

It does!!!! 😂

I certainly plan on it. However if it helps, I pre ordered the new V2.2 of the 4s outcast!

@@DerbyCityRC nice man I’m trying to get the kraton 4s my self

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🤣🤣 He was walking then suddenly stopped right in front of it 🤣

Lol yup garbage day is Monday, which is actually one of my off days 🤣 The garbage dude just happened to spill a bunch of stuff that day I guess lol

@@DerbyCityRC great stuff bro!!!

Cool! But it tough that was more like the 903a? I might be wrong just seems like that at a quick glance. It has a center diff?

@DerbyCityRC I dunno maybe like 903 new brushless version out

I don’t love the 903a. It’s ok but I’d like to see them do a version of the 2996/7a 😃

@DerbyCityRC not about love you need review it for uk audience get those subscribers get one just come out you meant 2 be 1st to review it come on

@owen8538I was more just giving you my opinion lol Tomley already reviewed it lol. Looks like you could just watch my 903a review, which you’ve probably seen 😉😃.

This car here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7OZtToYU_yI.htmlsi=SvhCjY-P6_EW0lmT

There’s a link to it in that videos description as well.

Thanks

Sorry if I forgot to add them in the description. amzn.to/3Pma1XN

Thanks!

I’ve used these on the original 16890 and loved them. Heats the motor up a bit quicker though, so be careful. amzn.to/3IFliyS I also used these 15mm spacers: amzn.to/49QrorT Hope this helps!!

Thanks!

Thanks

On another note, do you have a recommendation and how to add a fan to the motor to cool it down? Thank you!

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