He tells his vict*m to "move on" | INSTANT REGRET! | Utah Parole Hearing 

He was trying to say as the monster I want to help you heal and live life again....he just sucks at talking but that's obviously what he was trying to do.

​@MyMelinaaa and if he had any sense he would understand that is something he could never do. The best thing he can do for her is stay in prison so she knows where he is.

Unfortunately, rapists telling their victims to get over it or move on is pretty common.

​@@MyMelinaaano it's straight forward that the perpetrator is gaslighting and invalidating his victim. He wasn't "not good at talking". He has zero remorse and it's obvious

@@MyMelinaaa- Oh please.

the audacity😱🤯

He was never actually charged with rape

Right?! Geezus!

What's even more disgusting is the number of people supporting a man who did this behavior daily for president.

​@@kevinb9830that's based on the victim's statement to the police. He put his penis in her vagina against her objections. That's rape, despite whatever the prosecutor did.

In utah they give more parole chances but in all seriousness sex offenders spend a lot of time in prison they get rehirings all the time

❤🎉❤ Exactly ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤

There’s people here in salt lake getting probation for literally shooting people as long as the victim doesn’t die..

That's why they keep doing this, why because they know now hard will be handled to them. If it was the judges daughter would it be different

He says he's willing to do whatever it takes to make her whole....drop the appeal! Wave your right to any and all parole hearings! Do your time and STFU!!! Don't just SAY you'll do whatever she needs....DO IT!!!

Being up for parole in 10 months on a life sentence is insane!! The victim doesn’t even have time to even try to begin the healing process before having to relive the nightmare smh

You have to face it in order for you to start your healing process

​@@moongoddess238 are you a psychologist or just someone who wants attention?

​@@moongoddess238 most people are not ready to relive the events after 10 months

@@moongoddess238 There’s a difference in facing what’s happened to u & having to continuously see & argue against ur rapist being released every couple of years for who knows how long. I can imagine it being more damaging to have to do this.

He's banging all the little guys in prison as we comment. He's a p.o s

​@@supme7558 "multiple times...stated she was not ok with this". Within the first 4 mins of this video

@@supme7558 said she said no several times and tried to call out for her friends

@@supme7558 Did the victim ever say yes?

100%

That statement makes me think he's got an enabling mother behind him. So often with these shitbags, the parents excuse the kid's bad behavior with that old "he's a good kid but he always falls in with a bad crowd". Meanwhile, the kid has been the ringleader of all the trouble he's ever gotten in. Mothers do this way more than fathers. That's why he whipped out the old "I gotta stay away from the bad people", pretending he only does bad things when influenced by others. So were these magical others in the bathroom with him that night when he raped the woman? Nope. That was all him.

​@@jenniehughes6927You are an idiot! Get back to me after YOU'VE been raped, sodomized, and physically abused! Then I will tell YOU to basically GET OVER IT!

@@jenniehughes6927 I agree she is so valuable an individual that it would be in her interest to heal--but healing takes the time it takes and no one can dictate how long that will be. This guy minimizes her trauma by stating she should just get over it, and that tells me he will do it again.

@@jenniehughes6927 So you think her rapist should be deciding when she should be getting over his rape of her??? Please tell me I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying.

@@rachelpadilla9368I know right?! Sh. Sh.!!!

That is what narcissists do, and psychopaths.

They all do

under Christian America, he would be

​@@pasquesThis country was founded under God feel free to leave 😂

They always do

And yet I know someone who is doing a 20 year sentence, without possibility of parole for a non violent first offense drug trafficking. Shit makes no sense

@@Trent-s4v a federal sentence?

The law is the law it’s not there fault I took criminal justice classes and I felt the same way when I first started college

@@moongoddess238 You clearly skipped remedial English.

The judge is a psycho too she wants the victim to remain an emotional victim for her whole life

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​@Mandoo_TWO Hi guys! I am a lifelong utah resident from SALT LAKE CITY (the CESSSSSSSPOOOOOOOL of blue in an otherwise beautiful sea of red!)... the DA is way chill to 2F sa cons... and if you have any questions about UTAH I am not a lawyer but know some things (first hand knowing DA would rather give 2x 2F Ra Of a ch. ZERO PRISON TIME! but bogus antigun charges? No deal! But i found a way to not only beat it but DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE). lol look at the replies to this comment to see who supports the very DA who gives light sentences to the worst.

@@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 what are you talking about????? I am from SLC myself and the "Blue" DA you are talking about got him a life sentence. The Board of Pardons and Parolees determines when an inmate goes up for parole in Utah not the DA or even the judge. This guy was in custody for almost 2 years before his sentencing so he probably just came up on an automatic review. Just because he gets a parole hearing does not mean his is being granted parole any time soon. This policy is set by our very "red" legislature.

Yep exactly!!

@@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 So your red state's laws are too liberal for you? Lawd nothing will appease you people until only you and you alone exist lol

Gaslighting at its finest. 😡😡😡

BINGO

FACTS!!!

thats more like a Sadist..

@@luvmenow33that’s not gaslighting at it’s finest. A narcissist attacking you then ordering you not to react isn’t gaslighting at all.

Bingo

Considered an automatic fail where I grew up

How would he know to drink extra water?

@@gagecarlsen3872I didn’t say it came out naturally too watery, he could have added water, it depends how they took the test. If he or someone he knew had seen fellow inmates get a UA before, they have a general idea of when they’ll be testing you. They have 24/7 365 X however many years..they have time to think up methods that real people don’t have time to test. I’m sure there are other methods they have Just a theory. Usually if it’s too watery it’s from adding water but could by from overhydrating. I’ve never been to prison but I have friends his age or older who have and it’s easier to get away with things than you would think-and these guys aren’t even particularly clever, it’s just they have all their mind power towards one thing for so much time. They just have to find one CO who is underpaid and irritated w their boss or job and needs some money, that one insider will get them a lot. The cartels usually do that kind of stuff, simply because they have the resources and know the right people

Yup. I caught it.

Not in Utah at least

men protect men and it will never change period

@@mynameiseve.1 absolute nonsense. The s offenders in prisons are in mortal danger every day

I consider them to be attempted murder. The victim has NO idea if exposed to a life ending STD against her will and even if she wasn't, she gets to wonder and worry for the rest of her life.

​@@kevinb9830real life isn't the movies. this is patently false.

Yes she’s so brave

Unfortunately, she can't just "move on" because this guy keeps popping up to remind her he exists.

AMEN. yes she did!

And I'm so very proud of her for that! That takes bravery and strength.

@@michaeljohnston4459yes, she can move on, nobody has that power over & indiviual..it takes time & healing & she will never forget but she can move forward because this creep cant hurt anybody else..Id gladly keep going to keeo him locked up..the system sucks.

I've used drugs on and off for 50 years... Never rped no one

It’s another way for them to not take full accountability for what they did. It’s criminal behavior.

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​@@jimjones1130 so you r@ped everyone?

“Ya not supposed to be on drugs and alcohol you low expectation having mother fucker!” -paraphrased from Chris Rock

100 percent

Prioritising the criminal over the victim 🙄

Mind blowing

Should be made to serve the entire sentence

The people of that state should be revolting if they had any conscience or morals. This whole thing is abhorrent to witness, I can't believe this isn't a priority issue with the constituents!

I know what it is about the nightmares, and it is so true. I had them for years

Probably was originally charged with that , but took a lesser Offense in the deal

@@luvmenow33 yes exactly… that’s what infuriating. Although if he wouldn’t agree to a plea , there would’ve been a trial and could’ve been even harder on her .

Plea deal.

@@janicedevereux2839often times the consult with the victim. Maybe she didn’t want to testify and relive the trauma as what happens in most cases. To take it to trial means need to prove your case and prosecutor would look like a ahole forcing a victim to take the stand. I’m happy she has a mission of making sure this pos never gets out. Hopefully these impact statements stay permanently in his file.

Well if he’s appealing then the original charges should be reinstated and fully prosecuted. Should have to serve 10 years minimum before first parole give victim a chance at therapy and time away from her attacker

Exactly! He’s full of it! 😠

And still breathing.

because he cant take the death penalty.

There is a time and place for this in the healing process. She will need to Confront it and "rise above" at some point if she wants to get to a healthy place But the fact that her abuser is the one saying so early and in such a raw state shuts the door on it probably forever.

​@@fishbord yes of course she's gonna have to find strength to move on but the person who caused all of this is the last person that needs to speak on it . Dude clearly doesn't care and just wants his own life back

So you agree that people who think like that and do things like that should be jailed. Why then do Dems want to bring in a whole religion who thinks that way? And yes, even if it is only a few percent of them, how many women should be attacked before we care?

​@@LewisBrazelzthe type of idiot who would leave comments like the other 2 have lost the right to be taken seriously by anyone about anything...Just look at the dumb sh!t they typed. .Morons who don't know what they are talking about and another loon who believes wierd sh!t that's not true...I just wish people would ignore losers like this

@@mikeadams8027 Take you're crusade some where else.

I think the charges may have been reduced due to a plea deal

Plea deal

@@jessica_jam4386I don’t think he’s a Mormon but nice try… Mormons aren’t ok with grape or ex with someone who isn’t your partner. What is actually more likely is that it got reduced because he probably accepted a plea.

Wth

​@@jessica_jam4386 happens in ny and cali too

Yes in deep talking narcissistic smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

I think he was genuinely trying to say something positive and fumbled it so horrendous that it came off wild asl

​@@jags333found the grape apologist. I hope someone says something positive/motivational about moving on with life, to your wife/mom/daughter/sister, after he'd graped her.

He didn't try to give a motivational speech, he tried to pretend to give one. He had no intent to motivate her. He had every intent to make it appear like he was giving one. Incompetently.

And karma will punish her for her in forgiveness. What kind of a bitter angry person are you. We are not to judge and to forgive. Yes, even this. You suck yo

I agree with you. I think that's a paradox. She can not win if she keeps fighting. She needs to move on and stop fighting, and he needs to be in jail forever

Cut a deal with the DA's office.

She felt his penis in her vagina, is rape not attempted rape. No parole should be offered until after 15-years at least.

It was a plea bargain.

What a disgrace. Utah should be ashamed.

It's always the way. My ex was caught by an online predator group and the protection he received was vomit inducing. He was put up in a hotel far away from the town we live in, then he was given a phone with WiFi access which is how he commited his offenses and I know he's been online which isn't allowed under his bail conditions, he's been given a flat twice because he didn't feel " safe" in the first one. I tell you it boils my blood!!! He should get no protection his victim didn't, he should get put into general population in prison so he can feel what it's like to be the prey. He's stalking me now and its getting really malevolent so I've moved so he doesn't know where I am now and I'm reporting him so off to jail he'll go. I've also made posters and put them up in the area he's living to make people aware to watch their children.

@@Ruth78620 Thank you for making others with children aware of that freak, Stay safe

I always hear people say that, how do they care more about the perp than the victim?

The majority of rapes aren't even reported.

... or the others didn't SURVIVE. Sounds like he roofied her.

... or his other victims didn't survive the roofie overdose.

No, it didn't. It didn't sound like that at all. Where did you get that from? He was basically telling her to get over it because he didn't want her getting in the way of his release because he had no remorse and no morals. Why would you think he was thinking she was complaining he was bad at sex? He didn't say anything like that. Hella weird statement.

​@lazydaisy2292 - You don't get to tell someone what to think. You don't know their point of view. You don't decide what's weird, especially in the RU-vid comment section!!🙄

Well yea, if he could he'd bring a death sentence to HER. His name is Mohammed.

I have a daughter that suffered the same fate in a local outside park at 15 and she is also 21 now. My daughter is "somewhat" healed and the only way to do that is through. Not to avoid the trauma even how horrible it may sound. It is so much shame around these memories but for every time she speaks up, some of the shame goes away. I just wanted to give you hope by telling our story. There is a way to survive and eventually thrive again❤ I will pray that your daughter can power through somehow and live the wonderful life she deserves. Never give up ❤❤❤

Similar happened to me at 16. I had to choose between paying for healthcare to heal or pursuing legal action. I chose healthcare. Still to this day I have pelvic floor dysfunction chronic pain and pelvic floor nerve damage. I can’t have kids because intimacy is physically and mentally painful. He changed my whole future and is graduating to be a neurosurgeon next year

Don't come forward unless she wants to. She's had her autonomy stripped away from her once by the perpetrator, please as a mother, a survivor myself and mother of children who have had this happen to one, wait for her to want to come forward. You are her safe space honey and I know as much as we want people punished for what they did to our kids we can't take their autonomy from them in that way ever again 😭🥺

She was a child? Sounds like it was in a bar?

In his mind, he's the victim...

He doesn’t. At all. Not a single shred of guilt or self-awareness. And this is par for the course as far as these cases go.

He really doesn’t have a clue. He never will

In his mind she just misunderstood what happened "between them" .... total piece of garbage!

What happened ? I missed it. Sounds like a scumbag Hopefully she can get far away from him and lead a good life

Yup! He's disgusting.

Right? He's trying to guess why he should act sorry, has no idea. Feels nothing for the woman's excruciating suffering. Barely mentions her.

He just started flinging out apologies to everyone in the courtroom, and not her. Glad she doesn't need it to continue to heal, April is very strong. ✨💪🏻

Nah it should be 2124

Yeah keep them off our streets and away from the public ! What about our safety cause this man will reoffend again and again .

ABSOLUTELY!!

That's unfortunately not a thing in Utah, because they have indeterminate sentencing. Even though he's regularly up for parole due to Utah's legal system, I bet he still spends most of the rest of his life behind bars.

Which one

​@@supme7558all of them.

No , he will get out soon, stop being evil

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Appealing a deal he took and pleaded guilty to 😂

@@cbozant3428I thought when you accept a deal you give up the right to appeal?

​@KaysWorld4 you have limited rights to appeal. I doubt he will be successful.

@@mpettway6982 thank you for that info! Don’t think he’ll be successful either.

​@@KaysWorld4exactly! From.watching Judge Boyd.

He will be out in 2026, as they said that he can only be remanded to their jurisdiction til 2026. He can come up for parole before that time.

@@dudemorris7769good , he didn’t murder anyone

You mean getting intoxicated to the point of not being coherent and putting yourself in a position to be compromised?

@@Nick-nu1lpyikes … this is a weird justification for violating a persons body. Good luck to those who cross your path. 🤞

@@Nick-nu1lp I found the rapist, guys! ^^^^

​@Nick-nu1lp Straight out of the rapist guide book.

​@Nick-nu1lp exacly she dosnt take responsibility for being that drunk so was he ..regret is not ra*^÷

Yeah I know that’s crazy to me…. I also hear a lot of people say “people with sex crimes don’t survive in prison”. Clearly this guy is alive and well even in prison.

It's also just a ridiculous thing to say in general considering that Utah has only executed two people in the past 34 years, and none since 2010. Ron Lafferty was on death row in Utah for almost 40 years and ended up dying of natural causes.

@@braveheart9097 Yes, it's a myth..... same with child PDO's... we're told about "prison justice" and it's a bunch of bull. The creeps survive and do very well, there is no such thing as prison justice, it's a fairy tale.

He got the infamous "10 months to life" sentence.

And is already needing “prostate help”… gee, I wonder why 😅

If it was truly being taken seriously, he wouldn't be up for parole after 10 months of a life sentence, forcing the victim to relive her trauma every time he goes to for parole.

@@nacho_ncam100% true !

@@brijac04 probably meant “growing up as a female(woman)”

Most of these crimes never end up in court and the horrifying ones that do get dropped to lesser charges!!

Yes yes yes men well I won’t say man little boys like him think women are beneath him so he will never change he’s not sorry he just sorry he got caught

His name?

First one felt like a power tripper

The second one was ridiculous he barely questioned him so didn't get any explanation of anything then they let him out, he'll be back, I hope the father's of the children meet him one dark night somewhere quiet and show him the error of his ways.

The 1st guy had an excuse for everything- won't even cop to a dirty drug screening 🙄. He bragged about passing victim awareness class. Can you even imagine what kind of person would fail that? Yikes.

The first guy is gonna re-offend. He’s sad for himself.

That poor victim. He should be kept under the prison for the atrocities he perpetrated on this woman. Let him do life. He’s an unrepentant monster. How dare he address the victim like this. Outrageous. He doesn’t get to explain anything to her

Yes!! They are needed

oo but they were so mean and cruel to the poor, misunderstood offenders..

while better mental institutions are sorely needed, this man does not qualify. he's a predator and makes decisions while fully cognizant of what he's doing. don't conflate the two, it minimizes them both

I know you didn't mean to disparage 8 year olds!

This guy does not belong in a mental institution. He would actually have to be mentally ill for that.

I thought the same. That was so weird. So freaking inappropriate. What a d….k

Bone chilling.

Yeah I noticed that too. I thought that was a pretty weird and disgusting thing to say. It's not like he is even that old either. Most men his age would not have been worrying about that at that age. I am pretty sure he isn't either. He just had to throw that in there because he wanted to be able to say something that would remind her of his disgusting crimes.

Exactly, that was sick and manipulative of him. Disgusting sociopath attacking the victim in every way he can. He should serve life in prison. He wouldn't understand how the victim feels unless it happened to himself. He doesnt respect women unless they have authority over him. Throw away the key

I bet you would do it and sniff and lick your fingers afterwards

Never

Facts

Most politicians are high in psychopathy. Washington, DC has more diagnosed psychopaths than any other city. So they don't take SA, or any crime seriously (except crime against them personally.)

It’s not broken…it’s just the same. 😢

And that is worth mentioning because of what????

Because we don't like grapists.

​@@pub652 because it highlights just how pathetic this guy is.

​@@pub652I think he was insulting his voice and not here.

As a woman, we love men like you!

:)

@@elishh8173 Mahalo

​@elishh8173 dude would probably get his butt whooped. But he's got the right attitude at least. That dude will eventually get his his karma in the joint. There are so many phones in prison, they will find out and hopefully take care of it, and we'll all be happy

I’ll stand watch 💪

Same. I've been rxped and he should NEVER get out. The victim is left with a life sentence you don't ever "just get over it" you learn to live with it. That poor girl having to repeatedly give impact statements and im sure he is loving hearing the impact he's had. That poor girl should have someone to advocate for her and read the statements. Her victim statement has me in tears. If he had any remorse he wouldn't ask for appeals he'd do his whole sentence without torturing his victim over and over again.

Utah laws

Of course.. the old patriarchy dissuasion technique.

@@michaeljohnston4459 30yrs ago I tried to go after a roach that came after me at 7. The police tried to victimize me again, got fully traumatized from that experience. Lawyers weren’t much better to defend that roach. It is a gimmick against women since women were property & second class citizens until very recently in North America alone. We can’t even have safe abortions anymore because our bodies are still not ours

@@michaeljohnston4459shut up d/bag

She’s a survivor and I’m she’ll keep showing up to keep him on here or until she moves away

How about the gramps saying his 6 yro granddaughter wore her shirt too low cut???? He should never see the light of day either! Brutal men getting plea deals makes me sick!!!

It really got to me. It was tough. That victim is strong as anything to take that man to court and sit through all that.

@@Lisa-sl9ed I agree!!!!