WHAT is this, and WHY do you want it under your floors? 

@@ks13077 I do this for a living and I see stupid new products all the time, but uncoupling is certainly necessary for tiling over wooden floors and underfloor heated screeds. It’s super easy to lay, so it is heard to make a mistake.

But Hardie Backer had worked great for decades and it's screwed down into the floor, so it's even more secure.

@@vapeurdepisse all depends on the situation. You can’t screw hardi over an under floor heated screed or screw into a floor of unknown depths with screws. Ditra goes on without penetration of the floor. Both work well, just depends on what it has to do.

Matt have you never seen Holmes on Homes? From the late nineties in Canada Practically every show they are rebuilding a bathroom or kitchen & using Shulter products to lay tile!

Great product... factory certified in Reno facility.

I work in HC as well. Have no clue how I got here but I know I want this under the tile in my new home!

I'm watching this from the space station, idk how I got here but I didn't know I needed this info until I got the info

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It would have turned out the same without it. On top of concrete is it’s only use.

@@thebobloblawshow8832 wrong,

@@thebobloblawshow8832 I dont agree. Our stick home was built in 1999 and the bathroom grout is cracked or there are gaps between grout and the tile edge, decoupling membrane wasnt used over plywood subfloor. Now, it doesnt matter much to us because we dont care or observe too closely, but for sticklers and perfectionists they would want a reno

@@LincolnLog well agree or not the proof is in the pudding. Never had an issue. Let me put it to you this way: what did people do before Schluter? Waste of money.

No shit. scary.

A sure sign Google Ads is picking up key words in your conversations !

Just called my tile guy yesterday, video recommended this morning.

I know how you feel. I've just recently wanted to do something with tiles and these vids pop up.

Don't let people tell you that you're crazy! You're not crazy for noticing it. They are crazy for NOT noticing and just want to protect their fragile ego. Tech in the wrong hands = bad, bad, bad.

same here i got thick larger sized tiles & dunno if i should get the stuff in the video for it or no when installing its not for bathroom its for open kitchen floor

Mortar will set and cure even if completely submerged in water, unless you added too much water to your mix in the first place it shouldn’t SIGNIFICANTLY increase cure time, unless you are confusing curing process with drying

@@vitaliypro8441 Nope, thats not it.

What thinset did you use?

@@deeznutt666 have you ended up using this product in ur kitchen ? I’m doing a main walkways and it is. Plywood subfloor. Kind confused. Of What I should use. Hardiebacker or. This rolls

I can appreciate the sentiment. I think that when the quality is high people can just go on with their lifes and create new things that give new value, but if the quality is low then there's this whole spiral of time wasting: - the customer notices the problem and has to call the person that has done it - Not always, but sometimes they will waste time arguing, because the company tries to avoid repairing it - Someone needs to come and repair it - Often someone on the side of the customer needs to spend time and "watch" the person repairing it (I think that 99% of people that would come to do the repair are decent and wouldn't steal anything even if they had a chance, but there's always this 1% that is less decent and also there's always this anxiety when You need to let a stranger into your house) All this is time wasted, and also there are other situations -> maybe the thing doesn't break, but is just slightly (but visibly) out of sync and then people are annoyed at that. More quality -> more time and energy to enjoy life and hopefully create more awesome things

Do the contractors want cheap, or their customers?

@@apatwella most want cheap

Plumber? You don't even need a license in Texas. Totally worthless title.

Well if you have great respect for them then stop calling them labourer they are skilled craftsmen

I mean, I’d have to see the work before I go as far as calling anyone a skilled anything lol. If you’ve been in construction you know it’s a hit or miss with the contractors.

that would be the ditra heat you are referring too! Same general look but denser and has grooves for heating wires!

@@private8559 Yes they do but in my experience using decoupling membrane this can be pushed well beyond the recommendations, that was my point. This is especially true for tiling over underfloor heating. The recommendations are very conservative.

@@private8559 For the most part pushing the boundaries comes from clients who are prepared to take the risk to avoid expansion joints. I have read the Schluter documentation together with Vario and Durabase which I also use. Its usually down to the type of tile being used and the type of floor how far I would be prepared to push it.

What type of thinnest did you use on top to lay the tile? Modified or unmodified?

@@christiann4635 Depends on the situation really, heated floors really always require flexible adhesive often the really flexible stuff which is expensive but cheaper than having to redo it when there are problems. Decoupling membranes really work best with the polymerised flexible adhesives anyway. I have found the fibre reinforced adhesives to be very good too where there is going to be excessive expansion.

You mentioned goin over the heated mats with ditra ...What do you recommend using along side of the heated mats to make up the same height ? ( I plan on only doing 50% heat mat coverage on concrete slab)

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exactly....awesome for install,..but it's a complete pita to remove.

I'm assuming that's because a large percentage of the initial layer is filling the holes, thus not making contact with the back of the tile.

Hi There. QUESTION ? I am doing a small tiling job. only x 2 square meters bathroom floor. I want to know ? Is there any multi purpose adhesive which I could use for both - sticking on waterproof decoupling membrane onto a concrete subfloor and also using the same adhesive for sticking tiles on top of it ?

In North Dallas and all our kitchen tiles are cracking severely

@@QueOndaWhey OH NO! Gosh do you have foundation issues? It sucks when stuff is moving and cracking around you lol. If that's not it, I know my best friend had cracked tiles because of bad installation..not enough mortar used when they were installed.

Hope yall alright down there. 🙏🏽

If you have foundation issues its going to crack anyways.

@@smcewen7 None of my tiles have cracked, but hey I can't speak for everyone's experience with the product.

I have an 8 bathroom new construction house I'm doing and they will all have curbless barrier free showers

@@jlanemiller totally!

@@jlanemiller pictures or it didn't happen 😉

Panasyukvic I’ll keep you posted!

You should look into Japanese showers, these are found on middle class homes all over the country. It's how I plan on building a master bath in my forever home.

Also they are the products that will have hidden mold and rot and will never show These products are the worst products i have ever seen. My experience I had to renovate 4 bathrooms in one house and rip apart this company products On the surface everything was good under neat complete garbage Watch horror stories here on youtube All from this company products I am using MAPEI way better and professional This company y has good ideas but their products rot very easily.

can you lay it upside down. I done it by mistake

That's heat cables. Somewhat different product. It looks more like lego studs with cable in between. Or it could be water pipes in the slab. Tile is as cold as my soul otherwise.

Tile is always going to be cold unless you are piping hot water or electric heating pads under it. Great for hot weather though! Carpet nice soft and warm but not durable, and pain the keep clean.

The same reason you lay a foot or two of sand before pouring a concrete slab for a garage, or putting a down a sand pad for an above ground pool. It's effective.

Sand is probably too heavy to be practical with today cheap wood stick carpentry used in america but i get the decoupling idea, that's great.

Are you this guys mom or something lol. But in all seriousness it is a helpful video

Don't do that. This product is complete garbage Use MAPEI green mat way better than this junk. Your tiles will.pop out very soon. The only way to know the truth is if you demolish bathrooms and have tested both products This orange garbage fails all the time Shluter is a crappy company I will never use them in my life never They fail all the time. Try to pull tiles over green Mapei mat and see how it will go . You cannot remove them Over this pink garbage they pop out like nithing. Demolisued 3 bathrooms in one day Tried to demolish a bathroom with Mapei and could not go quarter in one day and need power tools Dont use this orange bs your tiles will crumble in a few years.

How did it feel better? From what I understand it's meant to make tile instalation better and last longer. So why would it make your room feel better if your not even walking on it

For the bottoms of your door jambs, I recommend plinth blocks. They have them in stock at the big box stores. They're square and make the room look much more expensive. Just mark around the block with a pencil and cut away the casing and baseboard with an oscillating multitool. For the baseboard gaps, I recommend 'stop molding.' It's the molding on the door frame, that stops the door from going any further when you close it.

Where he is in Texas most homes have tensioned concrete foundations that flex throughout the seasons on the first floor. It may go 3 months no rain on a clay ground, so the soil shrinks a lot. Hes talking about what he has to deal with

One of the most common causes of concrete cracking is excess water in the mix. This happens because wetter concrete is easier to work.

Vinyl planks are not waterproof. You'll find out when there's a leak . . .

you know how to install it? filling the waffles is easy.

Architect here - the idea of ditra over a concrete floor is to isolate the tile work from the concrete slab. If the slab cracks, the crack will not impact the tile work...

@@cptcosmo As I mentioned in my post I isolated cracks with membrane and used two coats of redgard. I also used flexibond for thinset.

​@Anatoly Eydelzon your specific application has redguard and isolation membrane as an ideal and affordable solution due to it already having all the cracks for you to isolate. However in new construction, you have whatever lines the architect tells the concrete guys to cut in the slab. They are often times not very accurate lines as to where the cracks will actually form. Using a floor wide membrane eliminates those cracks from coming through the tile.

I learned about rhis recently, and we used it on a bathroom remodel we did. I will say that it is awesome. Very easy to install and covers all your bases. I would definitely use it again.

wtfuchattin lmao mr tooo🤦🏿‍♂️

Where am I?

We like to use stuff like because it means we don't have to fix cracked tiles all the time for free.

Love Mike Holmes he's one of the best and I wish more contractors took pride in their work and cared about their customers doing the job correctly the first time around.

Chickenwire + thick bed of mortar = make the new guy do the tearout!

@@entropyfan5714 tell me about it just tore out a bath with .25 inch drywall then steel mesh with 2.5-3 inch concrete then tile I used a diamond wheel cutter to cut in between the studs and pryed it off in chunks, worst demo ever lol especially aroumd the plumbing and electrical!!

@@marcfavell they built it to last - thought the 50's would never end...

@@megenberg8 yeah for sure same principles apply now to installs of tile and stone and they also knew it when they made the parthenon just the material technology is different now but same principles!!

i had to tear one out once. it was mud over diamond mesh wire, man that stuff was hard!

Hi There. QUESTION ? I am doing a small tiling job. only x 2 square meters bathroom floor. I want to know ? Is there any multi purpose adhesive which I could use for both - sticking on waterproof decoupling membrane onto a concrete subfloor and also using the same adhesive for sticking tiles on top of it ?

Thanks Steve. Appreciate the personal experience

I'll second that, i've been using it when it was corrugated, not squares, fitted 100's and 100's of meters of it. All Schluter products are brilliant especially the wetroom drains, no one builds an easier to fit or stronger system :)

Thank you for this great comment.

Plot twist: Not this time

Is there anything original in that brain of yours instead of this constant copy and paste from you parrots?

@@Tre16 Is there anything original in that brain of yours instead of this constant copy and paste from you parrots?

@@tomjohnable 😆

Hello Clareese

steven kile 😂😂😂😂😂

Thats all we use. Most tradesmen don't do the training to understand the system. I use kerdi for al my repair jobs of the other so called superior systems, the more things change the more they stay the same- doing things the same old dumb ways and most guys don't even do it right the old way

I can't believe that some places still allow builders to install single glazed windows for living spaces, the quality of life benefits from the thermal/sound blocking is so big that it should be in every building code. Not to mention poor ventilation is so common if left up to the tenant so you don't want condensation to wreck the sills with mould.

What rubber membranes do you use? Researching sound deadening and there's lots of opinions. Most recommend 2 layers of 5/8 as the most cost effective method. Thanks

Wrong! Custom home builder here who also does high-end renovations. Squeaking comes from movement between two stiffer elements. 90% of the squeaks I have found in homes are nails moving up and down and deflecting wood. Sometimes it's wood on wood similar to two branches when the wind moves the trees. That synthetic membrane does not squeak. I've tried numerous times and never get any sound out of it. It's the subfloor below the ditra mat. There's a nail in the plywood subfloor below the mat. When the floor deflects the plywood moves and makes the nail squeak. I have been called to many other contractors customers with squeaky issues. And I always find the squeak. It could be a royal PITA, but I find it in 90% it's wood moving and the nail is not. Every now and then it's two pieces of wood.

LAUGHING... RIGHT... ME TOO

Matt wasn't paying too much attention to him, so you did (-; Me too.

The guy talks says nothing. While they show another guy doing the work that is hard to see what he was doing. Nearly worthless video

Hahahah me too! While watching I just kept thinking 'He's never going to get good adhesion to the back of that shluter' lol. That's what happens when you spread thinset over particle board. The particle board soaks up all the water from the thinset and the materials don't bond. Total crapola install! LOL

I also got a kick at 6:45 when the guy was struggling to get mud out of the bucket using his notch trowel. Could he not afford a pail scoop or any number of trowels/knives that could get help him get that mud out faster? That was almost painful to watch! Lol

Mapei is better This company is epic fail all the time. Will never use them in my life All their products are complete garbage You will find out when your cliets sew you in a few years and you cannot explain why all their oroducts failed. MAPEI is number one This company is a sham.

That's where the XL comes into play.

Epoxy grout only commercial projet dont ask me for house

Sounds like it wasnt installed correctly. It should not compress at all

What subflooring do you need under this stuff?

@@private8559 thanks.

Looks to me like a huge waste of money. Doubling on your mortar and time.

He said not to lay tile on wood board I have been doing that for over 15 years haven't had any problems

Um... Why would you use ditra over a slab?

@Sergey Romanchenko We don't post tension anything not in multistory commercial settings. Here in Wisconsin, we don't pour on grade. We can't. We have a frost line. We dig below it and we do ground prep. thusly making a post tension slab a waste of money. What's it like to have slabs that crack on the inside of a building? I wouldn't know, because we don't. But you already knew all of that because you have common sense and knowledge, right Boris? Man, it doesn't matter where you put a Russian, that inferiority complex just shines like a bright ol' beacon doesn't it Natasha?

U don't have to use detra over vinyl u can use eco prime grip

@@Sugarshane88 I got rid of the vinyl. It was only edge glued and not really that much of a pain to get rid of.

Yes.....only way to get it straight and level. You can keep this overpriced plastic

What's bedding?

@@UnbeltedSundew a bed of "mud".....a dry mix of sand and cement packed down screeded flat and level.

@@contemplate-Matt.G Ah ok, thx for the reply. :)

The mud bed is a dying art here in Washington St. Only thing its still used under is a shower pan and schluter makes cheater sticks for guys to use that cant even get good drainage free hand. I was in the tile business for years when i was younger in sales and worked with many installers to make extra cash evenings and weekends i use to love working with the couple if guys who still did mud floors or counter tops. Biggest problem people don't want to pay extra $$$ to have it done correct but are the fastest to bitch when shit starts moving in their "custom" built home that was finished i two and half months. The bad part was doing demo of old mud setups what a bitch. Several times was able to peel the tiles off of mudset shower walls scrape them clean abd tile right back over existing mudwork. Dying art and lack of craftsman willing to learn and take pride. Just want to use mastic stick it and grout it and get paid

It's not water proofing at all. It's a uncoupling membrane. Basically it's minimizes transfers of stresses from below it to prevent cracking through the thinset and ultimately the tile. If you think you have a water proof floor you are sadly mistaken. Infact we just redid 60 bathrooms at our commercial setting that used the product and it failed BECAUSE water would get trapped between the prodt and the thinset ultimately leading to it becoming saturated and holding the moisture and then uncoupling and then the problem just magnified as a small section broke down and would migrate eventually to large areas and then the product itself started degrading.

@@djtheg6819 He specifically talks about how it can be combined to be waterproof, and it is approved for use in showers. That isn't to say that it won't fail if left water saturated without proper drainage. But is that really worth talking about? No tile system handles being under water constantly without proper drainage...

@@djtheg6819 I appreciate hearing the negatives about this product based on your experience. Seems like you were pointing them out based on the original comment you replied to in this thread. Were you highlighting these issues to point out that there are negatives that people should be aware of but aren't completely against using the product, or are you completely against using the product? Also, you pointed out that trapped water was an issue. Would you say this was most likely the case because the product is poorly designed or because it was poorly installed? I have to believe the manufacturer took the potential for trapped water into consideration when designing the product and therefore most likely gives specific instructions on how to install it in order to avoid this issue. Is this not the case?

Does this help on uneven slab installs?

@@TimothyRitzer I understood it is NOT the system for showers but for the occasional accidental spill (washing machine or kids making more of a wet mess than adults would to) it is fairly good.

that's what I was thinking, put in a laundry chute instead, a dumbwaiter or something

By that logic you shouldn't have second floor bathrooms either. If you put it just anywhere without preparing the space to house it adequately then yeah you're going to have problems.

@@qtipmotha Bathroom fixtures don't create leak issues to the degree that a washer can because bathroom fixtures are generally used by a person who is present during the entire use to see a leak issue right away, and when the person is done the water get's turned off. Besides that, bathtubs, toilets and sinks rarely ever leak, and if they do it's a very small amount. Washers are turned on and left to themselves without being watched. When the washer leaks, or the house drain line for the washer leaks, it can be a long time before it's discovered. If they leak in the garage, the water runs down to the street with no damage caused. Another reason washers shouldn't be on the upper levels is because they are designed to work best on a solid cement slab to keep them steady during the spin cycle. You heard the guy on the video mention the insurance claim from the washer, but said nothing about the fixtures causing a claim. That's because they rarely cause serious leak issues. I speak from experience on this because my occupation has seen washer flood damage hundreds of times.

@@truthseekerKJV that isnt the issue at all with washers. It's the volume of water than can leak in a short period of time. No one is noticing that their 2nd floor shower pan or tub is leaking when they're using it until its too late. The damage is more likely to be structural by the time that a problem is detected, especially with the building materials that they're using for the joists in newer homes. In either case if built to suit it shouldn't be an issue. Its unlikely that a washer will ever leak during its lifetime, where as a shower/bath...? Not so sure about that. They also make prefab drain pains to install the washer on or a pan can be built with a liner like your standard tile shower. That goes back to adequately preparing the space for the appliance instead of just sitting it in a closet.

@@qtipmotha Based on your fake youtube id, and your obvious ignorance of washers and house drains, I'm seeing you as nothing but a troll who thrives on arguing online. You cannot prepare a second story house well enough to deal with the amount of water that comes from a serious washer leak, or backed up house drain line. Those $20.00 pans that are used in 2 story homes are garbage. As I stated before, my 30 years in the field gives me far more experience in this issue than some online troll who gets a kick out of online debates, so go to hell.

I lot all respect for Mike Holmes when he endorsed 3M Filtrete "furnace killer" air filters.

Mike holmes doesnt nothing about tile instalation hes dick

Holmes is a sellout, he was sponsored to promote this crap. I have no respect for him since he flogged this crap on his show.

@@marcopoulin1897what the hell are you talking about? How's he a dick?

Jeff Nelson Builder of high end homes in Connecticut for 35 years, could not disagree more. If your using a plywood base and leave a saw blade kerf between sheets you will not have cracks.

You just need a minimum 5/8” subfloor on 16” center with regular Ditra. Concrete board is unnecessary for all floor tile applications. Concrete board works well for exterior wall stone and tile application. Hope your remodel went as planned

What type of deck? I want to lay vinyl planking on top of trex on my enclosed porch

@@richardraad2816 it's a slate deck over a garage. 2 layers of ply, ditra, kerdiband on all edges and seams, and then flashing above that and then slate on top of that. The deck is super rigid, 2x12 (16 foot span) every foot, and 4x 2x12 under part of the deck that something else is supported by. Note that schluter does not like people to do this, i dont think it's because it doesn't work, i think it's because they would rather I had used their more expensive products that they market for outdoor use.

lol, he was immediately who came to mind for me too!

OU812 .... HIHIHIHI then u can imagine how long we have and used in Germany .... this is here everything new ... yeah new for North America ...LOL

@@wolfgangselle4307 The Germans always make good stuff...

@@OU81TWO except cars 🙃 your mechanic practically becomes a member of the family!

It's a good thing he's not presenting it as something new.

I have installed thousands of square foot of tile that being said though my true love “flooring” is hardwood as a carpenter and retired GC hardwood always steals my heart but I sure do love learning seems like I am addicted to learning from others Matt is one of my all time favs. I don’t always readily agree or buy into news products as an old school man I tend to move a little slower and with more caution than many of my peers that’s what makes me enjoy people like Matt and well even you your a tradesman and give your honest opinion and reasoning like on this post makes following your train of thought and why makes good men (women) even better. I have always been a huge believer in gaining and sharing knowledge it makes the world a better place!