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Tracy Walder, former CIA officer and FBI special agent, discusses the significance of the ID found in Bryan Kohberger's home. Kohberger is accused of killing four University of Idaho students and is likely to face a death sentence if convicted.
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@Lisa-Lisa53
@Lisa-Lisa53 Год назад
Keeping a trophy is a serial killer move. 😮
@ClearAdventure
@ClearAdventure Год назад
So is convicting somebody because of the "News" that is not supposed to have ANY evidence during a gag order, and sending people to prison to get a death sentence before they even have a trial. THOUSANDS of people have been unjustly put to death. Wait for the evidence from the COPS during the TRIAL. Calm down. 🙄🤦‍♂
@amyfarrelly4580
@amyfarrelly4580 Год назад
Let's just hope this was his first then and he got caught right away.
@CaptZdq1
@CaptZdq1 Год назад
@@amyfarrelly4580 If it was his 1st, he's not a serial killer.
@alicia4899
@alicia4899 Год назад
@@CaptZdq1 imagine your first killing you take out four people in a whole house 😳 ya I don’t think it was his first tbh
@Gypsy_Soul7
@Gypsy_Soul7 Год назад
@@CaptZdq1 A mass murderer at least, but if he’s not already a serial killer, it seems like he could’ve possibly been a budding one.
@loadedhot1034
@loadedhot1034 Год назад
As bloody as that crime scene was there is no way there wasn't blood left in the car.
@PollyHistor
@PollyHistor Год назад
Fortunately, they stripped the car, including gas and brake pedals. Forensics will find SOMETHING.
@rvingkeepitrolling8797
@rvingkeepitrolling8797 Год назад
Exactly
@rvingkeepitrolling8797
@rvingkeepitrolling8797 Год назад
@@PollyHistor if they had a smoking gun like blood in the car we'd know by now .
@WNActivist88
@WNActivist88 Год назад
@@rvingkeepitrolling8797 They haven't released the details of the investigation on the car. Stop trying to dismiss it
@dougcorcoran5455
@dougcorcoran5455 Год назад
​@@PollyHistor if there is something to find. If they don't find evidence it would point to BK's innocence.
@notkaren2568
@notkaren2568 Год назад
The ID with belonging to one of the victims was found inside his home, inside a glove. There were ID's also inside his car however this was not the case with this specific ID. Shown in the Affidavit.
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
I keep hearing these 2 conflicting accounts too.
@MrKitty-uq4co
@MrKitty-uq4co Год назад
Where was it reported that IDs were found inside his car? I think this is being confused with what was inside the house, Inside glove inside box.
@rvingkeepitrolling8797
@rvingkeepitrolling8797 Год назад
None of it specific.
@ItisMeMike
@ItisMeMike Год назад
You caught that too? .. this reporting is not good.. .. it was several cards in a glove in a box in the parents home
@WNActivist88
@WNActivist88 Год назад
Because they don't have jurisdiction over the other ID's, that's why. PA has jurisdiction over that and they will look to convict him afterwards
@DanFedMusic
@DanFedMusic Год назад
The police said before they arrested him that they're not looking for an arrest, they're looking for a conviction and after he was arrested, they said they were certain he's the guy and there's no one else. Too many people get arrested and the police know that they are guilty but there's insufficient evidence, they didn't want that happening with him.
@lmcmalibu6787
@lmcmalibu6787 Год назад
They got their guy and did a great job!
@dougcorcoran5455
@dougcorcoran5455 Год назад
Many police figure everyone is guilty. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong.
@bonniehowell9206
@bonniehowell9206 Год назад
Chatum County LE said something similar in a presser and it's readily apparent Leihani Simon was involved in the murder of Quinton
@samnous2002
@samnous2002 Год назад
The police said. 🤣You look like a supporter of a police state. No independent thinking of your own, is there?
@davedavidson7059
@davedavidson7059 Год назад
Been arrested like 8 times for shit I didn't do just saying it's more common than you think...
@philiplarocca8246
@philiplarocca8246 Год назад
Your fucking done Brian. Justice for those 4 kids!
@eviedkat2280
@eviedkat2280 Год назад
The Id or Ids were found in a glove folded down & in a box found at Bryan Kohberger's parent's Pennsylvania home where he was arrested. They were not found in the car glove box.
@chiquitabanana89768
@chiquitabanana89768 Год назад
Could have been fake IDs.for himself. Who knows. I know a lot of teens have fake ID w a different age. This might be stuff from teenage yeara
@MoonDragon1
@MoonDragon1 Год назад
@@chiquitabanana89768 agreed. Could be school ID’s from high school and College in PA if he keeps that stuff. Could be fake Id’s there is nothing officially stated about the ID and no one legit said anything about victim Id’s or people in the house is actually how it’s stated by NewsNation that seems to do a ton of “source” clickbait in a case with a gag order. Not buying it. The more I hear the less I believe
@sherrimercer7288
@sherrimercer7288 Год назад
It was found at his parent’s home not his car.
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
It's a whole nother level of creep factor if he entered that home on prior occasions while they were sleeping.
@PollyHistor
@PollyHistor Год назад
Well, the "creep factor" is already pretty high for someone who murdered four people to begin with...
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
@@PollyHistor Now add to it that he's been coming into your home all along without you knowing
@thinkingallowed7042
@thinkingallowed7042 Год назад
On one level, yes, but the party house played host to strangers, and without anyone who lived there being present at the time of many of those parties. So, with an open door policy, no, not really.
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
@@thinkingallowed7042 After everyone's gone and you're all asleep? Okay. Well, it certainly adds the factor for me.
@goldengoose97
@goldengoose97 Год назад
That crossed my mind in the beginning of this case because he felt so comfortable going in there. But he was also probably in a mental psychosis. It's scary to think if there's other people like him out there.
@edwinodus
@edwinodus Год назад
This is looking like a firing squad case by the day
@samnous2002
@samnous2002 Год назад
To idiotic simpletons. Not to anybody else.
@leaf16nut
@leaf16nut Год назад
We can hope 🙌
@geeklafreak2638
@geeklafreak2638 Год назад
Serial killers keep trophies…..
@lisaw1085
@lisaw1085 Год назад
Natasha has become my favorite on NewsNation. She’s so good! 👍🏼❤️
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf Год назад
If true, that’s pretty hard to explain.
@andrewbochicchio2232
@andrewbochicchio2232 Год назад
Yeah I mean that guy is definitely never leaving jail
@pamelasmith6221
@pamelasmith6221 Год назад
It’s not true. The ID cards found by police during the search were found in his parents home, not in the car. This is a NON story.
@hollydaugherty2620
@hollydaugherty2620 Год назад
@@pamelasmith6221 Ah yes, their ID being found in the home he was staying in, while he was there. Definitely not related at all. Jesus, Pam. You’re not too bright, are you.
@leftypaws1131
@leftypaws1131 Год назад
Right? This is one the most ‘open and shut’ cases I’ve ever heard of… I’m so curious to hear what his defence is going to be.
@KeleWele23
@KeleWele23 Год назад
The defense lawyer can easily explain that he found the ID on the ground, at a restaurant, or the at a bar.
@DzHarryNuttz
@DzHarryNuttz Год назад
I've said all along that this was a serial killer. I believe that (if) he's guilty, he had either done it before or he was in the beginning stages of becoming a serial killer. I remember those other murders in Washington that was carried out in the same way and they were all on the 13th of the month spaced exactly 6 months apart.
@leftypaws1131
@leftypaws1131 Год назад
Yeah he was 100% gna do it again if he didn’t get caught this time
@lstruggy
@lstruggy Год назад
This fool BK is a serial killer no doubt probably idolizes BTK just look at his death blank stare its very chilling
@marymoriarity2555
@marymoriarity2555 Год назад
I can see possibly That he might’ve been guilty of other crimes, even in Pennsylvania, but would not have parents that aware of something strange with him?
@KohalaLover
@KohalaLover Год назад
The thirteenth of the month with six month spacing! Had no idea; thank you for sharing with us. Fascinating.
@DzHarryNuttz
@DzHarryNuttz Год назад
@@KohalaLover there was an older lady, 70s I believe, that was stabbed to death and then there was a husband and wife. Someone broke in to their home and stabbed them while they were sleeping. The wife survived but the husband didn't. I heard about these cases before BK was arrested but after the Idaho murders took place.
@the_veronica_k
@the_veronica_k Год назад
Well that pretty much buries his ass and links him to this crime without question. A massive insatiable ego will always find a way to destroy the life of the person who fails to reel said ego in. It’s kind of like a giant ego comes with karma…it will eventually be your undoing!
@ClearAdventure
@ClearAdventure Год назад
And maybe the biggest ego of them all is one that comes to a conclusion from a "News" source that says they just "Heard something"" when there is an actual COURT ORDERED gag order on ALL the REAL evidence. 🙄🤦‍♂
@kleptodathief3946
@kleptodathief3946 Год назад
it depends on who the ID card is..if its dylan, he might get off due to resonable doubt,maybe dylan was accomplice.if its maddies ID, hes fcukd lol
@JJones-cl4dm
@JJones-cl4dm Год назад
I know whoever did 4 ppl with a knife wasn't no first timer. I'd bet the farm on that.
@shaf60
@shaf60 Год назад
Dead man walking .
@u.s.m.c.fewproudthemarines2987
Soon
@SurvivorC
@SurvivorC Год назад
No one is talking about how creepy his dad seems
@ClearAdventure
@ClearAdventure Год назад
And we have only seen an old bewildered man sitting in a car at a traffic stop. And literally NOBODY is talking about how creepy you seem for jumping to that creepy conclusion. Maybe they should be. 🙄
@leaf16nut
@leaf16nut Год назад
Those teeth 😂
@lmcmalibu6787
@lmcmalibu6787 Год назад
There was a movie with a serial killer and he kept his victims drivers licenses in a box below his home. Seems like BK was studying several different serial killers. Leaving the knife sheath behind was a mistake.
@cb3816
@cb3816 Год назад
Jeffrey did this and bk was definitely trying to copy cat Ted bundy
@ZIG.E
@ZIG.E Год назад
There must be more Trophies - look in his sock drawer!
@lobsterblacc9478
@lobsterblacc9478 Год назад
Tracy Walder > Jennifer She never disrespects Moscow PD or the FBI for how they do their investigation. She always thinks logically and uses common sense when she's responding to others. No ego just plan trust in how LE should work with so much technology available
@dirtydingus5465
@dirtydingus5465 Год назад
Yes..I thoroughly agree, and love to listen to her interviews! She has great genuine energy!
@anna1417
@anna1417 Год назад
And she is smart, professional, educated and objective. Great person.
@Sassyglbeauty
@Sassyglbeauty Год назад
Personally, I am not believing anything coming from media (due to the gag order), until the actual trial (and / or legit court filings, etc).
@pocketaces6756
@pocketaces6756 Год назад
The ID was found in PA, the gag order does not apply there. And the info was obtained from official documents. So "media is bad" doesn't apply to this one.
@lisasmith7066
@lisasmith7066 Год назад
There might be much worse evidence than the ID. Given the Gag Order we don’t know about blood evidence, DNA…all sorts of things. This is a leak and if true looks very bad for the defendant. But think of how much more evidence there could be. 🤷‍♀️ May the victims and their loved ones find peace and justice 🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊
@1rembo69
@1rembo69 Год назад
He studied BTK, BTK kept trophies from each murder.. As more & more time goes on & investigate we are going to be amazed how long he has been doing this!!!
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Год назад
You always wanna keep Thinkets and Trophies. That's how you remember all of the Fun that you had. You've got to remember it and treasure it, because you can't do it everyday.
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
We know it wasn't Xana's license unless she already obtained a replacement. It could have been taken at an earlier time or he could have taken another form of ID. But Xana's license was found in her room (PCA Page 1). What's been a big question mark is why they have an entire page on Ethan's injuries and the autopsy report redacted. Was it Ethan who suffered the worst? Was it actually Ethan whose blood dripped through the foundation and outside the house walls? This must be brutal. Ethan is the only one of the four victims whose injuries they got into detail on and which information is a full page, redacted.
@sarahj30
@sarahj30 Год назад
I wouldn’t think so simply because Ethan was killed in the doorway/hall which was towards the front side of the home. The blood seeping from the room was at the back. Since Xana was the only one with defense wounds I bet it’s her blood that we saw.
@PollyHistor
@PollyHistor Год назад
I've heard some preliminary reports about Ethan's wounds that are horrific, but out of respect for the families I won't mention them here. RIP to All 🥀
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
@@sarahj30 He was found in the room. (PCA Page 1) "Also in the room was ...Ethan..."
@joep6035
@joep6035 Год назад
​@@sarahj30 Ethan was not killed in the hallway or doorway. Xana was found just over the doorway of her room and Ethan was found in the room toward the back. Also that wasn't blood seeping down the outside wall.
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
@@PollyHistor I have to think that what you heard Polly is at least close to accurate. It is far too telling to have 4 victims and go into detail on the wounds of only one, do it for an entire page, and then redact it. There's definitely a reason for this.
@DSisk-uz3ps
@DSisk-uz3ps Год назад
Even if he gets the death penalty, he'll probably sit in jail for 20 years before they execute it.
@jennifersmith6597
@jennifersmith6597 Год назад
Why did he spend his time at night cleaning his car out but he leaves behind a victims id? This is hard to believe. If its true, I bet he will get the death penalty.
@americanprincess851
@americanprincess851 Год назад
that's a good point.
@jamessievert350
@jamessievert350 Год назад
And they do the firing squad. Would like to see that if he's guilty. He is presumed innocent until he goes through trial. But c'mon this doesn't look good for him. Sad.🙄
@aisle_of_view
@aisle_of_view Год назад
It takes many decades to carry out DP. Not that scary.
@sjn0202
@sjn0202 Год назад
They did not find an ID in the car.
@0warami_7oo
@0warami_7oo Год назад
stress make you forget things that are glaringly right under your nose
@ka82nz
@ka82nz Год назад
I'm sure the list of items they seized said ID's (multiple) in a glove in a box?? So maybe he was dumb enough to collect the ID of other people he had targeted. I literally can't think of a more obvious way to connect yourself to a victim than by stealing their ID. What a genius. Is the defence gonna try to say he was in a secret relationship with one of the girls and that's why the ID was in his car, why he left DNA there, why his phone pinged so many times near the house etc. Maybe he deluded himself into thinking he loved one of them. Allegedly.
@doreen6659
@doreen6659 Год назад
How would he have had time to get an ID? That's risky in itself.
@scorpion-lg4ic
@scorpion-lg4ic Год назад
​@@doreen6659not really. when I was in college, we needed our college issued id for everything...to get our classroom doors unlocked, dorm room unlocked, getting into college sporting events, our meal plan was on our id card microchip etc... and when we came back home we would hang up our id which was on a lanyard right by the bedroom door so we wouldn't ever forget it as we were leaving. so whoever's id it was, it might have been just sitting right out in the open. easy to grab as a souvenir
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 Год назад
Knife sheath. My guess is that he didn't mean to leave the sheath.
@NWI_Steel
@NWI_Steel Год назад
No shit Sherlock
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
@@NWI_Steel 😂🤣😂🤣
@snipekilldead
@snipekilldead Год назад
@@NWI_Steel maybe he did wanna leave it though. Even since he did leave it, he was still considered a fugitive over a month after the crime happened. So as much as he didn’t wanna get caught and possibly get proven guilty, and even face death. But the sheath was a huge piece of evidence because they found his print on it. So although it took investigators over a month to actually bring charges on him he’s an incel cuz he most likely left the sheath there on purpose to actually get caught eventually
@HeLLLoKitTTyy69
@HeLLLoKitTTyy69 Год назад
Easy there Columbo
@marylinthicum678
@marylinthicum678 10 месяцев назад
Was there any mention that the knife sheath had blood on it? If two of the girls were killed in bed and the knife sheath was also found in the bed why has there been no mention that it had blood on it? They have only said that it was touch DNA.
@KennyJordana
@KennyJordana Год назад
First, the knife sheath with his DNA was found at the victim's home. Next, his phone pinged at the location around the time of the murders. Third, his car was caught on camera leaving the area, exactly right after the murders happened. Now, the victim's ID was found in his car. It's a WRAP for this scumbag. He is guilty as can be. I think the only way for him to be found not guilty is by a legal technicality.
@ClearAdventure
@ClearAdventure Год назад
1. The sheath DNA could not DISCOUNT him, that does not mean "His". 2. His phone pinged on that tower when his phone was at HIS APARTMENT. It is not that reliable. 3. They SAID there were over 20,000 cars like HIS in the area. 4. The "News" says it is an ID from a victim, but the POLICE never did! There is a GAG ORDER. Meaning this is ALL speculation! Did he do it? Probably. Do we know that on THIS date?? NO! We do NOT! Try and take a break from accusing until ALL the evidence is in! There are THOUSANDS of INNOCENT people in prison right now because everything LOOKED one way, but was actually just unlucky! Again, he probably did it! But quit being a keyboard jury. OMG, people that judge with no trial, are why the system doesn't always work. What if it was YOU? And you LOOKED 100% guilty but were NOT??? Let's all hear the ACTUAL EVIDENCE first! Geeez. Is Dillon guilty by your standards?? If not, why?? She is the only ONLY one so far that changed her story over 3 times and called EVERYONE she knew over 12 hours BUT THE COPS! But she is a woman, right? Victim, right? Pffft. ANYONE could be the perpetrator at this point. Just relax and hear the REAL evidence before jumping to conclusions!
@petpilgrimgoose
@petpilgrimgoose Год назад
@Kenny Jordana, yes, and don't forget the car, and the warrant with over 700 pages of info request, and what that will yield! I think that LE and the prosecution have a boatload of evidence that we don't even know yet. He's going down, thank God.
@Atharia
@Atharia Год назад
The ID was found inside a glove, in they're respective box. Not the glovebox of the car.
@clarkness77
@clarkness77 Год назад
It wasn't pinged during the murders cuz he turned off his phone for that hour. Even more damming
@jamesjamesnet
@jamesjamesnet Год назад
Bryan Kohberger got too deep in his studies, and Satan got the best of him
@sisscokids3367
@sisscokids3367 Год назад
Record of evidence said ID was in a glove in a box in the House (PA).
@dariusmenda8487
@dariusmenda8487 Год назад
The ID was found in a glove that was in a box found in his house not in his car.
@jeffalessi
@jeffalessi Год назад
The defense may say someone is framing him.
@Secular-Serenity
@Secular-Serenity Год назад
Of course.
@oreocult6185
@oreocult6185 Год назад
Not surprised. I believe someone is framing him.
@pokerprincess3013
@pokerprincess3013 Год назад
That's exactly what thry would say. ID in car just sitting there when he had weeks dispose of evidence. He knew they were searching for a car like the one he drives. No way he didn't scrub his life of all evidence. If an ID was in his car, the victim was in that car.
@reallifelebowski4732
@reallifelebowski4732 Год назад
@@pokerprincess3013 hey incel you lost 😂
@reallifelebowski4732
@reallifelebowski4732 Год назад
@@oreocult6185 hey dude i just a saw a previous post where some guy burned you on your claim there was no ID found Hahahaha that guy not only provided the actual arrest warrant but the victims document that was found in the house shit man were you burned 🔥🔥😂
@Salty-cracker68
@Salty-cracker68 Год назад
In order to get an ID, he must’ve been there another time, or been wearing night vision goggles or some thing in order to be able to see well enough to find an ID… it doesn’t sound like he turned any lights on
@84americanwoman
@84americanwoman Год назад
Exactly my questions. I think he’s been there inside before. Now The 3D walk through online, options for lights on or off. It was creepy with the lights being off all except for the “Good Vibes” sign in the living room.
@bethleonardo5118
@bethleonardo5118 Год назад
Not the car. “ID’s in a glove in a box”. See the difference.
@leerjet18
@leerjet18 Год назад
He's done!
@davidcampkin9708
@davidcampkin9708 Год назад
i wanted to be a detective became a chemist instead
@judyenyrart9159
@judyenyrart9159 Год назад
We all know that he did it. You don't need to go to college to figure it out that he's guilty of it.
@sarajeanmarinershera208
@sarajeanmarinershera208 Год назад
I find it very interesting that right after its leaked that Pennsylvania is looking at him for Cold cases, it's then leaked that an ID of one of the victims was found in his car. I'm wondering if they found other IDs in there from otheir victims. It is unusual for a First time killer to commit a quadruple homicide on His first go.. Js
@user-gf8ql3dj6x
@user-gf8ql3dj6x Год назад
The claim about the ID was not leaked. It is a speculative fabrication by paid media talking-head Jennifer Coffindaffer. The cards retrieved in Pennsylvania have not been linked to the crime scene or any of the victims by any law enforcement agency, official, document, or official source. As the media outlets that pay Coffindaffer to appear engage in zero fact-checking, her fabrications and plagiarized analysis and insights have dramatically increased. And she's clearly not matching her claims against past law enforcement disclosures. She's getting sloppy and lazy -- and it will catch up with her eventually. This is not journalism, it's sensationalist theater -- and is no more factual or accurate than any primetime drama series. Don't fall victim to these sad tactics. They're not doing this to inform the public -- they're doing this to generate a profit.
@sjn0202
@sjn0202 Год назад
Not unusual
@jm4236
@jm4236 Год назад
This guy was supposed to be "smart" but he took his phone to the crime, turned it off for the murders, then turned it back on after. He used his own car. He went there with his cell phone for months and months always at a super late/early morning time. No reason to be there. His car was seen at the time of the murders. His DNA was at the scene by a dead body, on something involving the murder weapon.There's so much its just unbelievable. Now he gets caught with an ID? Let me tell you, we really dont know much about how it really happened. I think it was terrible. People woke up and fought. Those poor kids. DM was just mortified and her brain just shut down. I bet she heard a lot but convinced herself she didnt. This guy should be killed the same way he did.
@furstenfeldbruck
@furstenfeldbruck Год назад
If it happened in New York City he would have been out on bail by now
@TheNewsAnchorYouTrust
@TheNewsAnchorYouTrust Год назад
UNNAMED SOURCES AIN'T NO PROFESSIONALLY INVESTIGATED SOURCES.
@papagen00
@papagen00 Год назад
American judicial system moves at a glacial pace. I've almost forgotten about this case.
@LJE-B
@LJE-B Год назад
What sources? Who are your sources? I don’t trust anonymous sources.
@seamcheck11
@seamcheck11 Год назад
In his home. We haven’t been told which home.
@christineirvine8694
@christineirvine8694 Год назад
It was found in his residence. Not his car.
@elara2498
@elara2498 Год назад
That was a foolish trophy, anytime it was found, the case would have been cracked and his fate sealed
@deltatango6793
@deltatango6793 Год назад
Didn’t the affidavit say they found several IDs in a glove in a box? Could they have been targets? Got them before the crime? Or they could have been souvenirs… someone remind me what the warrant or affidavit said?
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
Couldn't be in the affidavit. They hadn't yet seized the vehicle. Do you mean the property list attached to the warrant for the vehicle? Has that been posted on the docket? I haven't checked the docket in awhile.
@deltatango6793
@deltatango6793 Год назад
@@bambooprincess3495 no but it very specifically said “in a glove, in a box” lol
@deltatango6793
@deltatango6793 Год назад
@@bambooprincess3495 and everyone else interested.. I found the list of items seized… Google this headline..“Idaho murders update: More Bryan Kohberger documents released in Pennsylvania; knife, phone, masks seized” then go to the article and read item #35… “ID cards inside glove inside box” and it’s not immediately under the list of items found in the car, but could be a continuation… unclear.
@deltatango6793
@deltatango6793 Год назад
@@bambooprincess3495 I mean, it’s hand written.. and it’s not on the list of items found in the car
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK Год назад
I looked through the property inventory for the PA house and the vehicle (the King Road House warrant and property list are still sealed). No IDs seized from the car. Only registration and insurance to tie the car to him. You are correct that IDs were found inside of a glove that was placed inside of a box in the PA Residence. Obviously he was concealing them. LE is pretty specific about most contents (including serial numbers, brand names of clothing, "maroon" notebook, etc), but not these cards. But the fact that they categorize them as cards makes me think they are student ID cards. I don't know if the leak is accurate and the property inventory list does not say this but it seems deliberate that it's such a general description. Not even a quantity is given. 2 cards, 3 cards, etc They did unseal the warrant from the WSU apartment. I have to check that to see if ID not belonging to him was found there - in Washington.
@abertolucci9780
@abertolucci9780 Год назад
“The presumption of innocence is paramount to the American Judicial system.” Discuss.
@TheNewsAnchorYouTrust
@TheNewsAnchorYouTrust Год назад
It is. But Hoax Nation with their leading anchor Ashleigh Battlefield disrespect the American Law like Donald Trump. Prejudice & Lies.
@dankjankings7339
@dankjankings7339 Год назад
If he had not dropped that sheath in the scene everyone still be wondering who did it.
@WNActivist88
@WNActivist88 Год назад
They had plenty of other evidence linking him to the scene
@thelogicaldanger
@thelogicaldanger Год назад
@@bambooprincess3495 Yes police did, but they didn't have enough evidence to get a search warrant, much less an arrest warrant, until after they confirmed the fingerprint/DNA on the sheath. So, without that information, police would likely still be watching Kohlberger, but they would keep that quiet, so nobody else would have any idea who the killer was.
@thelogicaldanger
@thelogicaldanger Год назад
@Bamboo Princess Police do not have to get a warrant to search through trash, at least in most areas. They searched the trash, matched the DNA, *then* they got the warrant to search the house and car.
@Chaseh1616
@Chaseh1616 Год назад
Here’s how he could’ve gotten away with it: Not leave sheath at crime scene, change car color by getting fake wrapper/ cover long before murders took place (either pay online way ahead of time or in a store w cash and no cameras hopefully), don’t take ID, leave cell phone at home.
@dankjankings7339
@dankjankings7339 Год назад
@@thelogicaldanger that’s correct.
@codywolfe3181
@codywolfe3181 Год назад
Walder clearly watched Lawyer you Know. Every other sentence that came out, was contextualized with the presumption of innocence.
@tracywalder9538
@tracywalder9538 Год назад
I don’t know what Lawyer you know is. I felt I hadn’t been clear regarding his presumption of innocence so I wanted to make sure I was.
@americanprincess851
@americanprincess851 Год назад
@@tracywalder9538 Lawyer You Know is a RU-vid channel that is ran by a defense attorney that has been following and reporting on this case, his father is a defense attorney too.
@tracy2762
@tracy2762 Год назад
kid looks like timothy mcveigh.
@yikes7963
@yikes7963 Год назад
Oof he sure does.
@collinsarcade2939
@collinsarcade2939 Год назад
hard to believe he would look for her ID when he killed all of them so quickly
@clarkness77
@clarkness77 Год назад
Her purse was probably nearby wouldn't take much
@erpthompsonqueen9130
@erpthompsonqueen9130 Год назад
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
@jmonopoly6822
@jmonopoly6822 Год назад
We need to start protesting against knives! Ban them now!
@pollyanna5354
@pollyanna5354 Год назад
And guns
@jmonopoly6822
@jmonopoly6822 Год назад
@@pollyanna5354 lol of course. I’m starting a campaign against Ovens because I’m tired of them burning my food.
@pete5137
@pete5137 Год назад
He wanted a trophy......there, now I am an expert .
@simplylivinginphilippines7476
Dios ko nakakatakot naman ang killer na yan , baka may iba pa syang pinatay 💔
@Justneed2say
@Justneed2say Год назад
If they have to keep telling you they are unbiased and fact based you can guarantee they are not.
@colleensgotcha
@colleensgotcha Год назад
Firing squad wow thats a shocker! I think if more states used that it could be more of a deturant then lethal injection.. Lethal injection is to easy.
@darlenemay9730
@darlenemay9730 Год назад
Ok I'm thinking he was after Maddie, because if Kaylee had moved out, it must have been announced on her social media, so BK would have known, but didn't recognize Kaylee's new ride. So he was surprised to find Kaylee in bed with Maddie, where he wanted to be, there in a jealous rage did more damage to Kaylee. Don't know why I'm thinking this , but it's possible.
@xxsunflowersxx17
@xxsunflowersxx17 Год назад
That’s what I’ve always thought too. His victim seemed to be maddie from the getgo.
@bbe3034
@bbe3034 Год назад
Didn’t Maddie work at the restaurant that served vegetarian food? I bet she told him to FO! Good for her but sad that he was probably looking for her.
@thinkingallowed7042
@thinkingallowed7042 Год назад
@@bbe3034 Or maybe not so good for her. It's best to be tactful and respectful when rejecting any man because you don't know how they will react. Not that I think he was obsessed with (in a lustful sense) Maddie. Google Hannah Cleere.
@kleptodathief3946
@kleptodathief3946 Год назад
i just don't think hes gonna attack and kill 2 peeps in one same bed at the same time without setting off some screams or wakeup the whole house..but maybe he can do it with a large knife? u slit the throat of one of the victims and u attack the 2nd one kaylee asap to prevent any running away or screams..i still think both girls were sleeping in their own rooms and beds that night, most likely kaylee was ambushed as shes coming into mad's room to check in on her
@darlenemay9730
@darlenemay9730 Год назад
Just seems strange that BK got to all four, without him getting injuries of some sort , esp. with Ethan and Xanna, she certainly fought back, seems like this wasn't a first time attack for BK . If he did this, he was smart but not smart enough. Was there a bed in Kaylee's room? I guess I assume her things were gone, since she moved out, and came back to show her room mates her new vehicle. Then again, I think of Murphy, did Kaylee shut him in her room or did BK. Murphy knew the room mates, and would have perhaps mad a racket during the attack , so BK would have gotten him out of the way .As a dog owner myself, I wouldn't shut my dog up just to walk to another room. Everyone seemed to love Murphy. Oh these thoughts!! I don't know these kids but my heart aches for what has happened to them and the loss these families feel.
@ginaiannucci
@ginaiannucci Год назад
Body language experts haven’t weighed in on that Kohberger clip from the last court appearance. Anyone else see that he clenched his jaw at least twice while the judge spoke to him? This shows extreme discomfort, anxiety and stress.
@Sookielein
@Sookielein Год назад
Yeah but to be fair if an innocent person would be sitting there being charged with a quadruple homocide they would be tense,uncomfortable and in high stress as well.
@nowirehangers2815
@nowirehangers2815 Год назад
😂😂😂
@nowirehangers2815
@nowirehangers2815 Год назад
@@Sookielein exactly These body language stooges are hilarious
@kleptodathief3946
@kleptodathief3946 Год назад
@@Sookielein if im innocent of these crimes,i'd be yelling im innocent and never did this! of course BK is the killer lol
@Sookielein
@Sookielein Год назад
@@kleptodathief3946 Sure that wouldn't make you look guilty af lol Besides no one was questioning if he is or isn't the killer.
@jayandrusiak
@jayandrusiak Год назад
The news made this guy famous just like he wanted.
@johuck3504
@johuck3504 Год назад
Just remember that that use a 'anonymous sources' on this channel. Can't let the clicks decrease! Beware.
@Findingtruth569
@Findingtruth569 Год назад
He probably is a serial killer and they all died on the 13th day of a month.
@roustabout4fun
@roustabout4fun Год назад
I think that they have a good chance to get a print or 2 off that card and that would be telling. I have a feeling that if the evidence is overwhelming and given the info (If true) that no family has visited BK. The Defense might just try to save his life and I am curious about how this all plays out in court. I enjoy the guest and her critical thinking.
@rvingkeepitrolling8797
@rvingkeepitrolling8797 Год назад
I don't believe Brian has the skills to do this now psycho wolf killer Payne who has military training that's more likely, or Jack D who owns a white Elantra lives 2 doors down stopped answering his phone didn't answer the next day for her parents either who told Kaylee she wasn't taking Murphy he had motive access & was supposed to go over that night she cheated on him. Cop being involved could be why no forced entry as well think about hoodie guy said they're going to get you she told Adam something then hoodie guy gets out of dodge after getting home. DM didn't call law because she was afraid to because she knew it was a cop or cops on the take. Instead of setting up Brian because he owns an Elantra & has strange habits but no motive. Oh that's right he just wanted to kill but left 2 people alive or was turned down I'm sure it's not like he's never been turned down before. In fact people he knew said he had prior girlfriends one died from a drug overdose. Make sense please.
@MsValley28
@MsValley28 Год назад
I think it is very possible that he has committed other crimes.
@Nerdgoals-00-
@Nerdgoals-00- Год назад
THAT’S IF such story exists. Let’s wait & see the truth in the trail. Sadly I lost my respect for News Nation as recently they’ve been over publishing unverified information that’s clearly biased; they made tons of videos on this ID story & failed to disclose that it has not been confirmed; one of those daily guests was the only ethical person & expressed that this story has not been confirmed yet prior to providing his opinion.
@TXtoTN
@TXtoTN Год назад
Oh, homeboy is done done!!!
@cazpk6840
@cazpk6840 Год назад
This lady is my favourite guest....v insightful.
@JoseCurveo-du9ld
@JoseCurveo-du9ld Год назад
I hope Detective Fuhrman is not been involved in any part of the investigation, if they later claim a single bloody glove was found in the car 🎉 , I already expect a first class railroading. That ID most likely was placed in the car by law enforcement.
@lorraineturner9405
@lorraineturner9405 Год назад
Is this true and accurate news? Or is it a rumor since the gag order is in place?
@2003phylis
@2003phylis Год назад
The gag doesn't cover Pennsylvania
@dougcorcoran5455
@dougcorcoran5455 Год назад
I think it's all speculation trying to get views. Almost no news is true and accurate, why would this be?
@hmq9052
@hmq9052 Год назад
I keep a signed photo of Banfield on my bedroom wall as a momento. A homage if you will, to News Nation's unbiased fact based guesswork and conjecture on this most pressing of issues
@hpotter2954
@hpotter2954 Год назад
😂
@carrieh922
@carrieh922 Год назад
The id was NOT found in his car. They found IDs in a glove, inside a box, at his parents home.
@bonniehowell9206
@bonniehowell9206 Год назад
@Carrie H Yep If this report is true it's definitely linked the itemized list in regards to the search and seizure at Kohberger parent's home where it states ID cards were seized found in a glove within a box and NOT reference to his actual vehicle where no IDs were listed
@stuce9803
@stuce9803 Год назад
Pride comes b4 the fall.
@kunthithana
@kunthithana Год назад
BUT why now, ? did you see who is the name the ID or just IF>>>>
@amandahawkins2631
@amandahawkins2631 Год назад
Is the state of Idaho or Washington looking at cold cases as well? Or bordering states of Pennsylvania?
@mandalee8148
@mandalee8148 Год назад
Yes
@ellensmith4347
@ellensmith4347 Год назад
Not in the car ...in a glove in a box at Pennsylvania house
@mym2443
@mym2443 Год назад
They said " one of the house resident's id", and now after calling Bethany to testify.. What if she was in a relationship with him and it's her id they found there...
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 Год назад
He succeeded. It is atrophy.
@jeanniemainzer8551
@jeanniemainzer8551 Год назад
He thought he was so smart. He left evidence everywhere. He is doing down.
@84americanwoman
@84americanwoman Год назад
So did he obtain the ID before the murders? Like he’s been in the house before..I think he has been. Nohburger was in there less than 15 min and he stopped to smell the roses for a trophy? Was it dark in their rooms when he killed them? The time he was inside still trips me out.
@msaijay1153
@msaijay1153 Год назад
Good points
@u.synlig
@u.synlig Год назад
Another way to obtain someone’s ID: slip it from behind the bar, when the owner has handed it over to secure their tab during the evening.
@kleptodathief3946
@kleptodathief3946 Год назад
maybe he grabbed maddies wallet by her bed,fumbles thru her purse, grabs her ID, to make sure it was her that was sleeping there? then fantasizes bout killing her, takes off the sheath , lays it on the bed..then RIP!
@monkeysluvdani
@monkeysluvdani Год назад
I agree. He killed 4 people in such a short amount of time even with one of them fighting for their life. It was also probably dark considering the witness wasn’t seen at her bedroom door. It really does raise the question of when and how he got this ID. He knew where he was going in that house. The one thing he didn’t know was that two of the girls were in the same bed which is why he went to the other room first. I find it hard to believe he took the ID while he committed the murders. He may have been in the house beforehand or maybe even came back and that’s why the door was open. OR like someone said- maybe he stole it from the bar?
@Dontatmebr0
@Dontatmebr0 Год назад
@@u.synlig bars don’t do that anymore. You start a tab with a credit or debit card. Or you pay cash per drink.
@lyndaalbrecht7006
@lyndaalbrecht7006 Год назад
Not in the car! In a glove, inside a box, inside his parents’ house. #35 on the search warrant for the parents ‘ house.
@toma5153
@toma5153 Год назад
I'm not seeing these news reports about ID's or Pennsylvania possible crimes showing up in other TV or newspapers. Where's the info releases from LE?
@karenmcgoldrick1562
@karenmcgoldrick1562 Год назад
Wasn’t found in the car was found in a glove in a box at his parents house
@andrewbochicchio2232
@andrewbochicchio2232 Год назад
Well he's not the brightest bulb
@pamelasmith6221
@pamelasmith6221 Год назад
Nor are you if you believe this video
@IVANOOZE69
@IVANOOZE69 Год назад
@@pamelasmith6221 exactly. News nation isn’t exactly the most credible source when it comes to these types of things. They create a narrative & run with it. You think these people would have learned that from the gabby petito case but I guess not
@hollydaugherty2620
@hollydaugherty2620 Год назад
@@pamelasmith6221 You are not smarter than professionals working on the case or literally everyone else who has common sense.
@phileasler5401
@phileasler5401 Год назад
Agree, he wasn’t a criminal mastermind, just a criminal
@nikkiwroten2296
@nikkiwroten2296 Год назад
i hope they expand their search of other murders to new jersey as well ! i am picking up feelings coming from new jersey as well as PA !
@ev500sam
@ev500sam Год назад
It was probably the ID of his main target, that he kept.
@danielvazquez7482
@danielvazquez7482 Год назад
Unless I’m mistaken, only 26 were put to death since the 1800’s; are we to believe he’ll be put to death? Doubtful.
@judyenyrart9159
@judyenyrart9159 Год назад
How can someone else's DNA be on the knife shild when it's brain's
@theecherokeerose
@theecherokeerose Год назад
what is your source for an ID being found in his possession belonging to a victim, and how was it obtained while there is a gag order? so in a ridiculously brief period of time, did he stop and rummage through purses and wallets to grab a victim ID and then also change clothes and stash a bloody knife in a backpack so as to not drip blood outside? I don't recall Dylan describing man carrying a knife or anything else out the door. who is behind getting your "expert" former FBI and CIA spooks to convict this man in the court of public opinion before a pre-trial hearing even takes place?
@LoraHari81
@LoraHari81 Год назад
The same way he left his knife cover with his DNa on it at the crime scene. Not the brightest 🙄🤣
@LavendarGoose
@LavendarGoose Год назад
Where are they all getting that it was the ID of a victim?
@joe-nt9qg
@joe-nt9qg Год назад
Could the ID be placed in the vehicle?
@Snail.1
@Snail.1 Год назад
BK is going to lie ( his lawyer) and say one or more of the victims rode in his car and left their ID in the car. 🤦Smh
@Jinxpowza
@Jinxpowza Год назад
A firing squad??? What is this the 1800s???
@PollyHistor
@PollyHistor Год назад
Idaho recently voted in the use of a firing squad as a backup measure for the death penalty if the drugs for lethal injection cannot be attained. Apparently, there has been difficulty in acquiring them.
@bonniehowell9206
@bonniehowell9206 Год назад
Even if Kohberger ends up being convicted and sentanced to death row it could take decades for the e execution based on the lengthy appeal process and possible that laws could yet again change since then.
@Atharia
@Atharia Год назад
First of all, they've found an ID (not specified if was belonging to one of the persons - deceased or alive - inside Idaho house or other case). Second of all, it was found inside a glove, in they're respective box. Not the glovebox of the car. Stop spreading misinformation. It's not helping at all. Third, he's being investigated in the double stabbing case of Travis Juetten, 26 (deceased) and Jamilyn, 26 (survivor) that took place at 3 a.m. on August 13, 2021 in Salem, Oregon. The only problem here is that during that time he was in Pennsylvania studying at DeSales. He moved to Washington somewhere early in August 2022 (1 year later). Some reports say that he recorded on a fitness app on August 4 2022 in WA. Another report from the affidavit states that cell records show his phone pinging near the murder house for about an hour on August 21 2022. So in this case, considering he doesn't like to fly and he only drives, the journey from PA to Idaho would take 37h of continuously driving (according to google maps), makes it impossible for him to be involved as it would be impossible to drive 37h with no stop. By stopping, would mean at least 2 days driving, some 1-2 days at least for stalking the victims and another 1-2 days driving back. They need to look if he missed from PA for about a week during August 2021. Keep in mind that we still don't know to whom belonged the ID's found inside his home. And if he is indeed involved in this case as well, that makes him a serial killer. But i see a lot of Bundy and no BTK in his actions. The BTK part came only from the fact that first aggression of BTK included 4 victims. Considering he might be previously involved in other cases, that jumps off the table. So no BTK here at all.
@marielawrence-settle6476
@marielawrence-settle6476 Год назад
You guys have it wrong, the ID was found in a glove in a box in his parents house,,, NOT THE CAR!!
@Jay_Tee2023
@Jay_Tee2023 Год назад
No one said "CAR" lol
@sunshinerain1577
@sunshinerain1577 Год назад
I bet it Xanas .. something bothered me when she asked for her ID. I always said she must of had issues before
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