Is the same Kang, now because Loki is whok remains, Victor Timely future has changed and he will became the conqueror and not the who remains, the who remains was Timely created by Loki itself to protector the sacred timeline, he was not waiting Loki, Loki was trying to save the multiverse so created the who remains khan until he was capable of save the time, Who Remains lhan sais he was waiting for Loki because he can not see the future anymore and then not protect the future as he used to do without just wiping all timelines. The two good kangs are the same but different time.
Not necessarily, specially since I thi k he won cause he was the first variant from 1930 60?cause he was from a previous loop. Getting years of time to prepare. Amd used a void monster which he couldn't even tame alone
He won not by powet but by wit and out smarting everyone especially by weaponizing Loki and their enchantment ability to get Alioth to be his war dog essentially
Well if that was the case then why didn't he kill Kang? There's a reason he got banished and it's because he can't be controlled. My theory is that HWR helped in banished Kang
@@babalhajihe who remains is the original of them all. And Kang the conqueror is the one that antman fought. He who remains is the harmless one but most feared of all the variants.
kang as a power level has always been able to get beaten by just a few heroes. the future technology, ruthlessness, time travelling, and sheer quantity is what makes him a threat
@@markiss69 it's stupid tbh, these nothing to fear or be hyped about this guy. You kick his ass he runs away to another dimension and gets kicked and runs to another and so on and on and we are expecting a thanos threat level 😮
@lebogangchiloane7251 That's what I'm saying is the lamest shit they could possibly do. he's already been beat twice lol he just looks like a joke now, I can't take this villain serious
@@majin_naoufel8191 yep but a vilain being defeated Extrem Diff while he is in the only realm where he is weakened, by an Avengers and an army of a thousand ants that can lift 30 times their weight each is OBVIOUSLY weak. Right ?😇
@@diosix_edit they dont know that many Avengers like Black Panther or Hulkbuster will lose against many Outrider without Thor. And Kang win against an army of ants, destroy timeline and planet, killed so many Avengers that he cant count them and easily stomp Giantman who is arguably one of the strongest Avengers
Actually no, He who remains feared himself, his other variants. Kang told Pym's wife that if he doesn't leave the quantum realm, his other variants are coming. HWR and Kang had the same fear, their variants, both Loki and Quantumania showed us that all that these 2 Kang variants ever did was either to keep their variants away or stop them from doing something, except only the Kang of Quantumania had the will and power to do something, violently. The real enemy is not the Kang of Quantumania or He who remains, the real enemy is the Kang Dynasty.
It makes sense that Kang the conqueror is he who remains. Instead of destroying the timeless himself, he created the TVA to easily maintain the timelines. 🤯
nope did u watch quantum movie? this Kang definitely destroyed the other universe timeline, he killed avengers both of them were different but share same name with different motive: Kang quantum saved his own universe from incursion by his variants he who remain keep the timeline from multiverse war
I like how kang acted as if he was displaced and some moments it seemed as if he couldnt really find the right words to use when conversing. Seemed as though he was going through ptsd low key.
@@w1l827HWR died due to his own will. He even made sure that Loki would come back to him in time and talk to him. He wouldn't have died if he didn't choose to.
I disagree. This Kang is clearly a variant hence why he is exiled by the other kangs. Remember variants by definition are people who do things they are not supposed to do. I think this variant version we see of Kang is the origin story of “he who remains”. I also think that the post credit scene is NOT referring to ant man killing Kang but rather sylvie killing Kang aka he who remains.
@@Zrathor Are you referring to the council of Kangs scene or the Victor Timely one? I don’t think it’s a matter of them doing something they weren’t supposed to do. The TVA arrested variants because of their ‘Sacred timeline’ dogma which was HWR idea to prevent a resurgence of Nathaniel Richards variants. I think that they may be aware of who HWR is/was somehow. All of it is very interesting so I’m curious to see how the story develops. I think he was exiled because ge doesn’t agree with whatever plan it is Rama Tut, Scarlet Centurion, Immortus & others have for the multiverse. The flashback showed him destroying timelines so maybe he did that to try and stop them.
@@shreddersaurusrex323idk after loki I think its pretty clear kang the conqueror is he who remains. I mean in season 1 of loki he literally says the called me conqueror. Kangs “death” in Ant Man is him being prune to the end of time where loki is currently at. Its an infinite time loop with loki and he who remains (who is/was kang the conqueror) taking the “throne” at the end of time.
Everything He Who Remains said about multiversal war is going to happen, probably a younger version of him from Young Avengers is going to stop the war and exile himself.
Its wierd when you see the council of kangs, and you see the one with loki, thats he who remains, which basically was mentioned that he was the most powerful of all the kangs, and all those kangs are supposingly, suppose to make a crazy challenge or very difficult to defeat, far worse the he who remains, But another thing why did the council only sensed the kang trapped in the quantum realm but didnt sensed that he who remains which is the strongest of the bunch, is desd
@@anthonyortega5076 the Council couldn't sense He Who Remains because He Who Remains only exists if the Council is defeated. When He Who Remains dies, the Council spontaneously came into existence in all the (newly created) branches of the multiverse. Thus, we're back to the "past" for He Who Remains (one of the Kang variants in the Council is He Who Remains' past self).
Bingo, this was confirmed after ant man and Loki... The conqueror was He Who Remains before he became head of the TVA Kang: "they(council of Kangs) exiled me here..." Council of Kangs: "the exiled one is dead..." i.e. He Who Remains/Kang the conqueror
I think He Who Remains and this Kang is the same person. He hated his variants so much for exiling him and he did burn them out of time until its only him that's left.
My theory: Immortus said: "I have called all of us" means every varient...but we can see one varient is till in TVA So I think that Kang the conqueror is victor timely...he is not dead...He just wanted to come outside without getting in the vision of his varients...and I think the whole plot of antman 3 was kang the conqueror or victor timely plan.
Stfu lmao. Ughhh...HWR only got rid of the kangs that wanted the war meaning there were Kang variants left which are the council of kangs. The Kang in the movie was the one that started the war so they're NOT THE SAME. U need to read comics to understand where the name he who remains came from and how it applies in Loki. It's crazy but iykyk
@@mohammadzaddy7642 well the Kang in the TVA had no mark on his face like the one Kang the Conqueror has. I'm not sure they're same Kangs, could be different Kangs we'll have to wait and see on Loki 2
Its wierd when you see the council of kangs, and you see the one with loki, thats he who remains, which basically was mentioned that he was the most powerful of all the kangs, and all those kangs are supposingly, suppose to make a crazy challenge or very difficult to defeat, far worse the he who remains, But another thing why did the council only sensed the kang trapped in the quantum realm but didnt sensed that he who remains which is the strongest of the bunch, is desd
Man, i don't know where Marvel pulled this guy out from, but damn he's a really good actor. He really gives that villainous vibe when he talks, when he blinks. Great fkng actor, which is hard to see this days due to too much AI
@@cordei2k948 oh he was in some thing's before lovecraft that put him on. When he was in white boy rick he just had something about him that all the others didn't imo.
The only reason Kang lost was legit because of plot Armor and the directors wanted to make a hero win 💀even though to me the story would’ve been better if the villain won but least we get another war coming but literally bro had every power in his hand to make sure he gets what he wanted and win.
the good story would’ve been having kang brutally beat modok but keep him alive to bring back later in the mcu. have kang kill janet and hope but keep scott and hank trapped in the quantum realm and have cassie escape and go find the avengers or what’s left of them. and then have kang escape and leave that variant there for when they next need him, then in kang dynasty it should open with scott and hank escaping the quantum realm and going to find cassie.
One of the comic writers for Kang said that the key to writing Kang's character properly is that he's audaciously ridiculous. His whole thing is that he's bored with the peaceful future Earth society and his desire to LARP being a Conqueror. He's not trying to win. He's messing around for a challenge and way over his head. Idk if MCU will take this advice to heart.
In recent MCU most of the new superheroes have somehow magically got their powers or abilities without any struggle or purpose ( kate bishop, riri williams, ms marvel, she hulk ). Also there are no stakes involved and all they do is say cringe corny dialogues in serious situations. Thanks to Disney for ruining everything.
@@mehitchcockor he has a valid opinion. She-Hulk was a shitty show, and everytning he said was a fact. She literally broke through the forth wall, talked to the AI equivalent to god and asked for everything she wanted and got it given to her in the end with no struggle involved
Wasnt it his own technology in the end? Modok was the one that actually broke the shield and then the funny ants didnt even kill him, only damage his suit. Then he got knocked into his own multiversal engine to die.
I personally think that the Kang that Ant-man killed was actually He Who Remains. Because all other kangs feared him. Because he was the only kang who beat them all and created the master timeline. When Loki killed H.W.R it reset and restarted the timelines, kangs, and war
Wrong, wrong, and just wrong. First of all, Kang is NOT dead. Second, he's NOT HWR. Another thing is when Loki got sent into another timeline by Sylvie, the statue of Kang was already there before she "killed" HWR indicating that Kang and his variants were already around. This is the typical and common casual comment I run into on every Kang related video and it needs to stop
i don't think so because 'he who remain' let this only timeline remain where Avenger time travel and all the other timelines were destroyed by tva/alaith
Marvel needs to bring this guy back. The woman who made allegations against guy was no innocent angel. The videos of him running from her being chase by her proves she violated him.
I think this variant still wasn't the strongest one. But if he was then he would probably make a comeback in kang dynasty on earth then the real battle would begin where time exists cuz in quantum realm there is no space and time.
Thank God I am not the only one who think this version of kang might be still alive somewhere and he will came back in kang dynasty. He live in quantum realm for long time and make his own army but some advance ants killed him. It doesn't make any sense to me
Yeah and people didn't understand the movie itself and Kang said it himself that he didn't have his tech, he's stuck in Quantum Realm for so long so that's why his powerful tech is gone and can't use it.
I don’t think he’s dead, in the comics his helmet would scan his Brain when he died and then transfer all this memories to a clone body, essentially making him immortal.
So Kang lives in a multiverse of kang's. Like Rick and Morty 😕. But no Morty's just kang's that don't trust themselves. But ruin each other's lives to feel save.
Antman and his family stopped the dangerous Kang in Antman and Wasp Quantumania. I really wonder what expect in the upcoming The Avengers Secret Wars 🤔
I really need to say how much I am enjoying the Kang storyline. The post credits scene in Quantumania with the council of Kangs was the best one in probably 10 years.
He who remains is kang from Quantum Mania. He who remains is the one that beat the other kangs and has the same goal of persevering the perfect timeline. He always dies, but always comes back.
