'Head' of 16-Child Family Tries to Kill Mind-Changing Parents | Christopher Pence Case Analysis 

I’m convinced some hoarders hoard children.

"maybe they were unable to figure out what caused the pregnancies" I'm dying

As a former foster parent, I have to add that is sadly common for mothers or parents who lose their child due to their own negligence to then become pregnant again because they still grieve the loss and attempt to fill the void with another child. They often do not see themselves as responsible for their circumstances and have no insight into how the displaced child feels when they simply move on with another child. It's heart-breaking and infuriating.

Dr Grande is the master of the subtle drag.

When you have that many children you end up turning the older siblings into nannies and they lose out on their childhood to help raise their younger siblings. It's very selfish.

A couple in my church were going through drug relapse and posted a bulletin asking for a family to watch over their kids while they were in treatment for 3 months. Another family came forward to take care of the children. Upon the parents leaving treatment, the other family refused to give the children back and used the parents drug history against them. The children really struggled with the new family during the 90 days and were heartbroken not being able to be reunited with their parents. Some people can be the worst self centered individuals w/ no care for anyone else.

With some people there is a fine line between religious conviction and cultish obsession.

The older children in these families often morph into less of a sibling and more of a babysitter type role. I feel sorry for the older siblings left to run the household as inevitably happens in situations like this.....been there.

Who's paying for the kids now? Bio-dad is in prison. mom sounds like a stay-at-home, home-school type of person, and the couple who gave their children away do not appear to have regained custody after a legal adoption, and are not contributing money. Are we talking welfare? Grandparents?

15 kids and 2 adults in a motor home? Packed like a can of sardines.

They did not take the disabled child. That says a lot about them. Terrible child stealers.

I am the fifth of eleven children. I don't think any parent can properly provide all the needs of each child individually; I have stories. My dad, the finest gentleman I have ever known, was/is still the replenisher of his children and my mom was simply the multiplier. She was a narcissist; I have stories.

This is the most fascinating comedy channel on RU-vid. His delivery is brilliant.

Who meets total strangers at some random RV park while on vacation and end up convincing some completely unknown ppl that they should let you take their kids.?

“He wanted a discount because both his targets lived at the same address” lol

Fun fact: the tax exempt Ark Encounter sued their insurance company for water damage after a storm.

Good grief, I have two kids and they cost a fortune to feed. What on earth are they feeding 16 of them, gruel?

As I watched, I just knew Utah would come up eventually.

Literally every time there’s a family this big the man is a religious nut job.

I feel very sorry for the Cordero children.

Rabbits 😂. Good one Dr Grande.

they turned their children over to total strangers??? WTH? I had a child and wasnt married, my relatives tried again and again to take her, but I fought to keep her and I raised her successfully. I wouldnt even let family take myn child I cant even imagine giving her over to strangers. unreal.

I speculate that Norman is the most normal character in this story 🐄

What an absolute loser. He had the mentality of someone who wants to run a cult. How sad for all of the kids involved. They were not loved.

They should be investigated for welfare fraud too. You have 11 gotdamn children but you can still qualify for a $500,000+ mortgage?

That cow segment was gold silver bronze platinum everything!!! Well done Dr Grande

THE QUIPS THOUGHHHHH *1)Norman was like ‘man I dodged a bullet there’* *2)an affinity for…rabbits* I would give a whole paycheck to see a stand-up act from Dr. Grande, anyone else!? 😩😩😭😭🤣🤣🤣😂😂

Ha! Our family had 11 kids, in a small Dutch townhouse. At no time did my parents think they should adopt 5 more!!

15 kids + 2 adults in a mobile home driving from Vermont to Washington state. These people are cra cra

All of this is so insane. Also, how does a family with that many kids and only one working family have $16,000 to hire someone.

You had me laughing hilariously with your “moo-ving” comment. Your dry humor is fantastic. On a serious note, that many children only traumatized the elderly children who ended up become a “parent” when they should be enjoying proms, homecoming games, sports and school clubs, friends and youth events.

Those poor children, what horrible examples are being set for them! Thank you Dr. Grande for this video of a weird situation!

where did they get all that money to travel, adopt, move, purchase homes, etc...

“He wasn’t entirely set on just adding people to the world. He was quite willing to subtract a couple” 😂😂😂 That took me out.

Those poor kids, omg I hope they all grow up and never talk to those selfish assholes ever again

The cow being named Norman is probably a reference to City Slickers.

Omg! WHErE does Dr Grande find these crazy situations???!😅

😢 The saddest part about this whole story is how the actions dysfunctional and toxic adults are negative impacting, and hurting, the lives of innocent children. As for the Pences - it's clear there was an agenda in adopting the Codero children. Michelle has issues from childhood, she was 1 of 6 half-siblings taken from an unsafe home and split up when placed in foster care. Also - religious beliefs seem to be a big influence on the Pence family. I think it would be relevant to also examine cases and stories of other strict religious parents who have large families, homeschool children to promote their beliefs, and build their lives around strict religious rules. A news report details Christmas at the Pence home. The news said it used Michelle's blog as a source. There was a game played on Christmas called "Labor and Wages". The point was to teach the children "the wages of sin is death". The children were instructed to disclose their "sin" in detail and then fined $10,000 for their actions. Any child who could not pay would lose their Christmas presents. Christopher Pence played the role of Jesus and paid the debt for each child (and lost all of his presents). This is extreme. It's especially not appropriate for vulnerable children, the Coderos, who experienced recent trauma and loss, and need most safety and nurturing. Also concerning - the bond being formed between parent/child when one parent is comparing himself to Jesus and stating he can pay the debts for the "sin" they committed. How confusing! Imagine how the children feel now that "dad" in jail. By the way - Christopher Pence complete 🐃 💩 If you feel a child is unsafe, call authorities. You don't plot to kill their parents and then ask that a child be used as a witness to give you an alibi. That is NOT WWJD!!!! Michelle Pence is now a single mom to 16 children. How she is going to be able to afford the mortgage and meet the family's various needs on her own, is going to be a challenge. The Codero children are caught between the conflicts of both parents. And likely will be raised in an environment hostile to their birth family. The Pence family is sympathetic to Christopher. I can't wrap my head around a child growing up in an environment where the message is sent that their parents are bad and deserve to be killed. Further - the Codero children will have no exposure or contact to their birth family's culture, history and no contact with extended family members. This is a huge loss. Abruptly, and without warning, the lives of the Codero children changed overnight... they lost everything that was familiar to them and have to acclimate in a completely new environment and meet new expectations. It doesn't sound like the Pence family was sympathetic either. It is understandable that the Codero children would struggle with grief, loss, confusions and emotional/behavioral issues in this situation. The Codero parents, also concerning. They basically gave 5 of their children away to strangers. The husband has been accused of looking at child p-- online and showing it to his children (investigated by DCF but nothing came of it). The family will probably be living in fear for the rest of their lives. It's going to be difficult for the 5 Codero children (if they chose) to maintain contact or a relationship with birth family...clearly therapy is needed.

"He was not entirely set on adding people to the world. He was also quite willing to subtract a couple." Spit my coffee! xD

The price the family paid for their Texas home is what I paid for a modular home in Canada. Just the home, not the land.

Leaving your business' finance to a guy who had more than 4 kids is wild. Either he can't estimate cost, or he's really good at budgeting.

"rabbits" That's why we love ya , Dr Grande

Hi Dr. Grande. Great work as usual. I was wondering if you'd be interested in covering "Bishop" Dwight Reed, who married a 19 year old girl when he was 63. It's a case out of Iowa. It's disturbing to me, but apparently, some people are fine with it.😮

They were child hoarders, not parents.

Who was paying to feed all these people? And who bought the house in Utah?

This was a great one!! I’ve never liked puns much until I found your channel quite a few years ago, now. “Moooove.” 🐄😂😂 Thanks, much, Dr. Grande and I hope you have an enjoyable weekend. 🙂

Hawkins, Texas is only a few miles from the International Alert Academy, where the Duggars go sometimes. I nearly choked on my drink when you mentioned the town, it's very close to my home. 😮

It is the different types of humor/wit/alliteration, that keep me coming back! TY, Dr. G:)

I am one of 10 children. We were not rich, but our parents loved us and we felt special! Looking after a sibling is not necessary bad. It taught us kindness, responsibility and cooking, sewing, crochet, knitting, embroidery ect. In the school holidays we helped with the house work and none of us thought this was strange. I went to visit a school friend and I could not stay long because she had to cook for the family as the mum was working. My mum was at home and did this and we had to peel the potatoes ect. I could never say I regret being part of a big fam.

God bless those children. I hope they are safe, happy and well adjusted.🙏🙏❤️

That's way too many to have in a family, motives definitely in question such as where do they get all that money? Very sad again. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛

Purchased two pet Chinese Geese from a farmer one time who had them named, “Thanksgiving” and “Christmas”.

How did they afford to feed and care for all the children?

What kind of person accepts money to carry out a killing and refuses to honor it?

The delivery and puns are awesome!

Norman the cow felt normal 😂😂😂 Oh, Dr. Grande your humor is amazing! 😊❤

Dr grande makes me laugh 😃, this case is unbelievable, probably because I'm British and the American way is so different to us .

Please, would it be possible to bring back your interesting and very funny tidbit endings from your older videos, like: 'As always I hope you found my analysis of this topic more pro-social than a posse of insane clowns, thanks for watching.' Thank you for considering my request.

Your deadpan delivery is so enjoyable.

One of your most clever tellings yet!

I feel faint just thinking about the weekly Grocery bill.

Oh, a new one. Thanks for being so consistent.❤

i named my kids "pot washer,tidy upperer and foot massage".. im a fun parent :-)

I just found this guy for the first time, he’s hilarious 😂 10/10 for originality in story telling and 10/10 for his pun work

My 92 year old mother is the oldest of 12 children. Included in that 12 were 2 sets of twins. I have twin aunts that are 3 years older than me and im the 4th of 5 children my mom had. My grandmother was still having babies when her oldest 6 girls were having babies.

Always interesting Thank you❤

The Corderos moved nearer (2hours away) and the Penses were not happy so moved…..WHAT! 2 hours in the UK is a long way… not even near enough to visit weekly let alone daily!!

The humor is just gold. Thank you.

We had 2 families in our district who decided to compete with one another in which family could have the most children, so in essence it became a Baby Making Competition/Sport. Such people exist. The winner was a Dutch Reformed Family who had 23 children before the mother's baby making skills gave out due to age. The other family (non-religious & backwoods type) unintentionally stopped at 19 children when the father, who was a logger, was accidentally killed when a tree fell on him. In both cases, the older children had the responsibility of raising the youngest members of the family since the mothers were constantly pregnant.

Your humor- I wonder how many viewers miss it and how many of us have to squelch our laughter so we don’t miss your next lines!

Both families are nuts

15 children to give attention,education,medical care,letting them enjoy their youth.. For me,and I respect other peoples opinion, this is close to abuse. And no more of this time.

You say these puns with a straight face and voice. They do make it easier to listen to the whole story.

Wow.those poor kids.The whole situation is a mess

The king of puns strikes again! 🏆

Love the dry puns. Kudos on another great analysis as well.

Love your takes on all these cases… thank you for bringing them to all of us!

There's marketplace for a hitnan? Dang. That should make you cow(er) in fear...

Dr. Grande, your humour slays me every time. "Norman dodged a bullet", "Affinity for rabbits"...

Norman was the name that Billy Crystal’s character gave to the calf that he saved in City Slickers.

Dr Grande, your sense of humour makes these seriously disturbing cases entertaining to watch. It is hard for most of us to believe that people's minds can be so convoluted as to put children in the position that these 4 adult parents have. Your dark sense of humour helps us to understand just how seriously wrong-minded they were (and maybe still are).

Evangelical Christianity doesn’t say children are “rewards.” The Bible says children are a blessing from the Lord.

I love your sense of humor….alliteration is always a fave of mine….you’re subtly hilarious Dr.Grande! Love from Denton, Texas❤️🐈🐈‍⬛🐆💕🙏

“He was also willing to subtract a couple”. 😂

This is totally insane and scary. What kind of country permits this to happen?

During the 60s in uk, a large family was considered normal average size.

Udderly Loved the ‘Cow’ segment… how did 🫵 keep a straight face?😊☮️🙏🏻

Doc, love your analysis & humour 👌🏻

You're a treat.

That exact thing is what I am afraid of one of my adopted children thinking. He was adopted from Russia. He's now an adult. When he was younger, we had some contact with his birth mother through letters. He is her first, from what we can tell. She went on to have 4 more. The 1st one was born before our son was out of the orphanage. Why didn't she just go back and get him if she wanted kids? She sent him a nice picture of her and the 4 kids. She asked my husband if we or any of our rich American friends could adopt them. I know how it made us feel. I don't know about our son. I can't imagine, if it has hit him, it's a positive feeling. So, it makes me wonder about thing whole side of things. As a mom of both biological kids and adopted kids, this would tear my heart out.

The fact that the Cordero children weren’t even well-behaved really struck me. It clearly shows that the parents behavior wasn’t at all about actually wanting to raise or care for the kids, rather it’s to satisfy their own weird power trip. They don’t want to keep the kids, but they want anyone else to have a say over them even less. Disgusting

16 CHILD and 2 adult tickets to Ken Ham's over-priced Ark-Park would have cost almost a thousand dollars. Holy SHIT!

Not many who call themselves Christians really are.

Is the state monitoring the care of all those kids? And they should be monitoring the Cadero family also!

I can’t with the cow puns!

Bro got me over here dying with the cow puns

Got me at the very end with “…he was also willing to subtract a couple.” 😂

Your funny! I love your sense of humor and play on words! 😅

I enjoy Dr’ s sense of humor😂😂

Remember the “toy” within the little boxed in peanut jumping up and down with a worm inside of it ?