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Healer NERFS & BUFFS for 10.2.6? | Best Healers | Mistweaver, Resto Druid & Preservation Changes 

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@MadSkillzzTV
@MadSkillzzTV 6 месяцев назад
Which healer *deserves* more attention and changes? 🤔 Also next reset there is an 8 hour extended server maintenance - when do you think 10.2.6 is launching?
@alexanderh2715
@alexanderh2715 6 месяцев назад
Holy paladin wasting most of their holy power is a bad joke. I got my hopes up when I saw the title and honestly this shows I can bench my evoker next patch. Already server transfered my old druid. I hate playing around the range on a lot of fights. Especially in pugs evoker is too unforgiving. It's fun and output isn't really a problem but the range is extremely annoying. Can't understand why Ele did not get more buffs or boomkin single target, prot warrior damage etc. I don't get what the heck this balance team is doing
@deafpolygon
@deafpolygon 5 месяцев назад
the healer that needs more attention is shaman.. it needs a little more TLC in raids
@mortalux
@mortalux 5 месяцев назад
You know these aren’t 10.2.6 buffs and nerfs, those are simple 10.2.5 buffs and nerf to try balancing the classes because of community complaints.
@MadSkillzzTV
@MadSkillzzTV 5 месяцев назад
These would have been 10.2.6 changes if the patch launched this reset due to extended maintenance xD
@edbrooke75
@edbrooke75 5 месяцев назад
I love preservation but I have had too many pugs with a hunter at max range in one direction and a mage at max range in the other direction. It’s just impossible to keep people up sometime.
@jennyrivasjj
@jennyrivasjj 6 месяцев назад
Monk changes are weird😮 As a raiding resto druid, ill take this buff!!! I hope this will bring be closer to the hps numbers my amazing guildmembers are doing! Great video Mad!!!! ❤
@xolids
@xolids 6 месяцев назад
No buff for paladin and holy priest healing ?
@Schnaqer
@Schnaqer 6 месяцев назад
Holy priest healing is fine. They could use some survivability buffs though. Holy pals really needs some buffs to its holy power spenders though!
@cat-vv9xb
@cat-vv9xb 6 месяцев назад
@@Schnaqer Counterpoint: hpriest is the easiest healer spec to play and master, and yet it's still at the bottom. Like sure, hpriest is really popular in heroic raids, where people tend to overheal the content and hpriest has the best heal sniping out of all the healer specs. But in the first place, whether a spec is great at sniping heals should never be a metric to the spec's viability.
@treecat125
@treecat125 6 месяцев назад
I don't really think their raw HPS is such a big problem. They are at the bottom, but that's not really why they aren't good. Discipline has higher burst HPS, and that's probably the most important thing.
@realdaghda
@realdaghda 6 месяцев назад
Cries in Paladin
@HotFuz
@HotFuz 5 месяцев назад
I second this cry my friend. Especially with the S4 tier set where we will get a buff to holy shock while our spenders are wet noodles
@antonispapageorgiou4168
@antonispapageorgiou4168 6 месяцев назад
Where are the holy paladin changes ffs? Are they actually happy with the current playstyle of the spec?
@MadSkillzzTV
@MadSkillzzTV 6 месяцев назад
Hopefully soon
@alexanderh2715
@alexanderh2715 6 месяцев назад
It's like them doubling down on evoker range. I mean I hardly see preservation evoker when I play. People clearly don't want this. Holy paladin gameplay is awful too. Maybe we get another buff before the reset and this was just a heads-up that there is coming more?
@game-day870
@game-day870 6 месяцев назад
So frustrated with the current state of holy paladins.
@Bigjohn2121
@Bigjohn2121 5 месяцев назад
Mistweaver has definitely been overturned, and with mana tea, they don't even fall off. But I guess the only class that I have had noticeable mana issues with is resto druid. Wish innervate would restore a % of mana, too.
@shehran6936
@shehran6936 5 месяцев назад
If it restored how much mana you saved that would be pretty good
@baracken
@baracken 6 месяцев назад
I think they could keep the range limitations on breath but increase it on everything else, I get why a breath wouldn't go as far as anything else but like living flame it doesn't make sense with the limitation imo. I still play prevoker
@33cyrilrioli
@33cyrilrioli 6 месяцев назад
Yo love the content. Would love to see a Monk raid guide sometime.
@amirir
@amirir 6 месяцев назад
Players don't play around preservation evoker range. if they did, preservation is one of the most fun classes in the game
@erichall090909
@erichall090909 6 месяцев назад
The range is it’s biggest weakness and why they are barely viable this tier
@JulianJuanli
@JulianJuanli 6 месяцев назад
Yes indeed. when I run my own keys I tend to avoid ranged dps, especially hunters cuz they never stand still
@avellian6840
@avellian6840 5 месяцев назад
@@erichall090909 i did 1 raid this tier as presvoker and said no fucking way, everyone too spread, rooms too big, etc. was not fun!
@Windgrace
@Windgrace 5 месяцев назад
Why should everyone play around one healer’s limitations, when they don’t have to do that with any other healer? It’s just bad design and these “buffs” won’t change that.
@JulianJuanli
@JulianJuanli 5 месяцев назад
@@avellian6840 when I'm raiding I just focus on melee groups and use echo on ranged dps.
@tylerfloyd3013
@tylerfloyd3013 6 месяцев назад
8/9M as a Pres Evoker. Proceeded to get benched before first pull on fyrakk because of the class. 🎉
@KC-py5vq
@KC-py5vq 6 месяцев назад
What an idiotic decision. You don't need a meta comp for a boss that's been nerfed to shreds ans this late in the season
@glenndoiron9317
@glenndoiron9317 6 месяцев назад
You don't seem to understand what blizzard is saying here. They are saying "We aren't fixing the actual problem (near-sighted dragons), but we hope you'll ignore the problem if we buff something else completely unrelated." If you hold your breath for a fix, you're just going to pass out. Your ONLY fix is to reroll to another class.
@tylerfloyd3013
@tylerfloyd3013 6 месяцев назад
@@glenndoiron9317 I don’t really understand what this is directed at. I do agree with your point.
@Byhythloh
@Byhythloh 5 месяцев назад
The fact that Holy Paladin buffs aren't on this list shows that blizzard is one of two thing: 1. Knows Holy Paladin is in shambles, but doesn't give a shit. 2. Doesn't know, and is completely out of touch on class balance.
@Kryptz_AA
@Kryptz_AA 6 месяцев назад
I was actually so hyped when I saw Preservation Evoker was being buffed. Then I felt an impending sense of doom when I read the words "Time of Need". They openly admit that they are aware that the reason players are not playing Preservation is because of the range limitation. Their genius idea to fix it, buff a talent that has zero usage in any gameplay. I highly doubt it will be run in mythic+ or raid. It won't be run in mythic+ because it contributes zero damage or utility outside of an 8 second healing increase. It won't be run in raid because it has zero synergy with blossom and doesnt contributing any AoE healing. Live givers flame is a nice buff but once again, this healing is just going to get sniped by the tank in 9/10 instances - we do not need to heal tanks in this self sustain meta, we need to heal the hunters/mages sitting at max range staring at their DPS meters instead of being aware of their positioning. How do any of these changes help us deal with these players. Just remove the range limitations and let us do our keys with a peace of mind that we dont have to do acrobatics through boss mechanics just to get our shit done. Its infuriating.
@deafpolygon
@deafpolygon 5 месяцев назад
time of need increases range, so taking this will help your overall throughput immensely.
@OsyrissTV
@OsyrissTV 6 месяцев назад
I feel Pres needs more than this, but I guess the big changes won't be until the next xpac. It's such a cool healer and I really enjoy it. I am hopeful for the future 🙏
@erichall090909
@erichall090909 6 месяцев назад
I’m glad you have hope, I got none. They have no idea what to do with the spec.
@OsyrissTV
@OsyrissTV 6 месяцев назад
@erichall090909 people like the healing through fire breath idea, mostly for world content or m+. It would be cool to see that viable for raid but I don't think it's possible
@tobiyt3414
@tobiyt3414 5 месяцев назад
i love pres too its such an amazing healer i am sitting at 3.6k io rn wanted to get to title but with pugging only its so hard if u dont have much time to que all day, Getting a Group up for next season for the 0.1% title
@cheatdeathproc
@cheatdeathproc 6 месяцев назад
I love Blizzard. They are aware of the range restrictions turning players off the class. Then they buff a talent that no one takes and throw in some deal sweeteners that aren't really eyebrow raising. No one is swapping back to Prevoker on the strength of these changes alone. At it's highest there's now a public acknowledgement from Blizzard that the range restrictions are pretty much deal breakers for the healing community
@erichall090909
@erichall090909 6 месяцев назад
Hey look it’s good ole blizz “you don’t know what you want we know better trust us” it’s amazing how quickly they just fell back into the same old crap
@kungjocke9446
@kungjocke9446 6 месяцев назад
Laughable when you don't see any AFFLICTION WARLOCK buffs lmfao
@99-221
@99-221 5 месяцев назад
I must be the only one who really likes holy pally. I think it’s tons of fun and feels just fine. I’ve played all the healers this season and holy pal and mist weaver are my favorites by far.
@Ts_n_Cs
@Ts_n_Cs 6 месяцев назад
Resto shaman is the second lowest population healer behind prevoker and yet no adjustments....ugg.
@alexanderh2715
@alexanderh2715 6 месяцев назад
Honestly if we had a proper tierset we do not even need a buff. Resto shaman is fine. The only problem are heavy movement fights
@daketh4572
@daketh4572 6 месяцев назад
@@alexanderh2715 disc was lowest population healer since legion. Its not a good enough reason to buff shammies. The shammies ive seen heal in keys do very fine
@1brianyaffa
@1brianyaffa 6 месяцев назад
@@alexanderh2715 resto tierset is very fine.
@cat-vv9xb
@cat-vv9xb 6 месяцев назад
? Resto Shaman is quite literally 4th in both raid and M+ popularity. Where are you getting your numbers from?
@stevenrussell8917
@stevenrussell8917 6 месяцев назад
This tier set is good. People just aren’t building their talent tree towards it. Also, I’m not sure why people voted for the tier 1 class set?
@Festinaz
@Festinaz 6 месяцев назад
I cant find this blue post where is it?
@mikevlegels1220
@mikevlegels1220 6 месяцев назад
We got a evoker healer pumping 300-400k hps in raids making it our top healer together with a druid.
@Unitos_
@Unitos_ 6 месяцев назад
These changes should have happened literally months ago.
@pandaciuc
@pandaciuc 6 месяцев назад
The most annoying part of the mw monk is that people will actually think they got nerfed on m+ which isnt really the case because overall only their chi ji ramp got a bit nerfed and spot healing which both arent a big problem.
@Unitos_
@Unitos_ 6 месяцев назад
Holy Priest probably deserved a small raid buff.
@Joetrus
@Joetrus 6 месяцев назад
Where hpal changes, wtf it kinda scares me not seeing any changes, or at least word of changes. like, is this how they really want the spec to play?
@HappyPow
@HappyPow 6 месяцев назад
Prevoker is not going to work with range restriction
@deafpolygon
@deafpolygon 5 месяцев назад
rejuv/germ builds will be viable in M+ again. it's 12% stacked with germination,. and probably will let you catweave with a little more breathing space
@milassverige3291
@milassverige3291 5 месяцев назад
I miss my resto shaman, it was a king on shadowlands m+
@richardsapingo1828
@richardsapingo1828 6 месяцев назад
Blizzard, no one freaking gets Time of Need...
@davidbell4768
@davidbell4768 6 месяцев назад
The way i use time of need is to leave the range player who doesnt want to stay in my line of cast put an echo on him/her with a re and if they drop really low the time of need heals them for me, its a passive stress relief bit also if you can just play into melee comps so its easier to group heal i like the fast that you have mobility to get around the range with moves related to the fact that your a dragon.
@AmanitaMuscarias
@AmanitaMuscarias 5 месяцев назад
Mistweaver has been overtuned for the last four months. This tuning is long overdue. Blizzard needs to tune holy paladin to give them more love. Restoration Druid hps increase for raid should have happened 4 months ago. Would be great if innervate was more like mana tea. Glad to see preservation evoker getting some love.
@paso7943
@paso7943 6 месяцев назад
I never been fan of nerfing some classes. I would leave those class that works alone, and instead buff those classes that are at the low end of the chart.
@IsWIM872
@IsWIM872 5 месяцев назад
How is preservation range and issue in m+. IDK. Right now everything seems ok except HPal. They are absolutely the bottom tier healer and after pushing some of the highest keys for that class, I think they should double the holy shock and WoG healing for it to be ok again. Next seasons set is better but damn is it much more boring than the current one. I wish they just increased the output.
@captainkribble7665
@captainkribble7665 6 месяцев назад
Breath already has a range. Just make spiritbloom have a range on the character you cast just like wild growth. Disenegrate needs to do a crap ton more damage since your giving up resource. And make every other ability 40 yards. No reason you need to be pigeon holed into this. Even hpal is more fun to play atm. And revert the changes to sphere and just increase its mana cost. Used to feel great hitting that button now it just feels like crap.
@jossangr
@jossangr 6 месяцев назад
any link of the patch notes?
@shehran6936
@shehran6936 5 месяцев назад
wowhead. Doesn't let me post links
@avellian6840
@avellian6840 5 месяцев назад
it's kinda BS they are nerfing classes this late in the season. But also, we don't know what's happening next week when we have long maint.
@rockurox
@rockurox 6 месяцев назад
LEAVE US MONKS ALONE GOD DAMN
@derekbuechele
@derekbuechele 6 месяцев назад
I really hope these patch notes aren't final and blizzard looks at Hpal and does some work on them unless they're planning a full rework to the class and haven't told us yet. But as someone who's been playing Hpal since I started it really isn't fair that the class feels as garbage as it does, Apart from the times I took a break from the game this is the first time I decided to not main Hpal. I really hope something happens soon.
@davidbell4768
@davidbell4768 6 месяцев назад
I love prevoker the way it is buffs nerfs whatever ill still play it, what i want is evoker glyphs like to all my fire breath or living flame green also just more new glyphs for all classess to be fair it would give scribers something new to do or enchanters imbues to be permanent so people actually want them more cosmetic’s blizz
@michaelbarber3125
@michaelbarber3125 6 месяцев назад
Where can I find these patch notes? Can't find them on google.
@fastydave
@fastydave 6 месяцев назад
literally on wowhead
@brice9013
@brice9013 5 месяцев назад
Im calling it now, they are going to giga buff pres and dev evoker during season 4 .
@glenndoiron9317
@glenndoiron9317 6 месяцев назад
"Preservation has been underutilized... in part due to the range ..." indicates that the writer has a firm grasp of the completely obvious, but none of the fixes address it. 10/10 trolling, glad I don't play preservation, I already had years of this trash ("this one spec has a hideous downside that other healers don't have to deal with") from Holy priest. Congrats preservation evokers, if they repeat history expect Blizzard to continuously double down on this terrible design decision for at least 6-8 years before they finally figure out that they can't fix it, that the problem is actually the problem and not a symptom.
@tocadiscox3
@tocadiscox3 6 месяцев назад
No Holy Pally changes are wild. This spec needs a lot of help. I tried it recently and it is god awful to play.
@Random2960
@Random2960 6 месяцев назад
Going oom on shaman is a skill issue tbh.
@CaledonianCraft
@CaledonianCraft 6 месяцев назад
The Pres changes are laughable tbh. The Life-Giver change is alright but the rest are non existent changes. Ive said many times that if they just gave us Echo LF and SB at 40yard range that would be fine. I would also love a change that allowed us to put Fire Breath in our stasis.
@deathknight0481
@deathknight0481 6 месяцев назад
My Evoker S1 2800 io Pres, S2 3000 io Aug, S3 don't even play it.
@chevmaro5278
@chevmaro5278 6 месяцев назад
I main pres evoker and the range limitation is no big deal. We are very mobile and jump around a lot, we are not a turret class.
@vjr6939
@vjr6939 6 месяцев назад
Typical blizzard, nerf good classes, leave the junk ones as they are
@fastydave
@fastydave 6 месяцев назад
Lol those evoker changes are literally nothing
@erichall090909
@erichall090909 6 месяцев назад
Blizz balance team are such cowards
@redx3032
@redx3032 6 месяцев назад
Dude u should look at 95 percentile or at least 90 percentile. Looking at 75 causes less popular healers to look worse than they are
@cat-vv9xb
@cat-vv9xb 6 месяцев назад
"Dude", if you actually looked it up yourself there's literally no improvement when you filter 75 and 90/95. If anything, the gap significantly *widens* going from 75 to higher percentiles.
@natev580
@natev580 6 месяцев назад
There's only one problem with videos like this.. They don't do anything for the general population of the game. This is 100% focused on the top 1%, which is fine, but it means literally nothing to the other 99% of the player base who couldn't care less about top 100 mythic raiding or +30 keys. Although I do appreciate the breakdown and analysis, I do find it kind of sad that the context in which it is delivered has no relevance to most players.
@slinnythechicken7635
@slinnythechicken7635 6 месяцев назад
There's not a single bit of tuning that can ever exist to affect the 99%. If you buff feral druids 20%, the mass public will still play the class they like. Balance tuning only ever matters if something is broken, and nothing really is right now for the mass public, or for the competitive side of wow.
@ExodiaWins
@ExodiaWins 6 месяцев назад
What are you talking about?? lol. These are just buffs to the spec. For example, anyone that plays resto druid benefits from the rejuv buff. Nothing about these are focused on “the 1%”. You can be a casual resto druid doing the raid on normal and you’d be excited for this buff. You’re just complaining for no reason.
@Malaluna_
@Malaluna_ 6 месяцев назад
Wrong. Just because many of us play casually doesn't mean we don't make an effort to play with the performance as close to the top 1% we can get. I don't care how other players perform but I feel bad if my Hps or Dps is low and that's true for a lot of players.
@richardanthony7855
@richardanthony7855 6 месяцев назад
His name is madskillztv. Its not casual Kevin couch time 😂
@natev580
@natev580 6 месяцев назад
@@ExodiaWins I'm simply referring to the presentation, not the information.
@driiifter
@driiifter 6 месяцев назад
The Rejuv "buff" won't make me put it back onto my bars. These devs are smoking hash. It must be a raid buff or something. Resto Druid doesn't even need buffs, what is the point of this. I go OOM on my shammy in keys, if anything Shamans need more buffs.
@alexanderh2715
@alexanderh2715 6 месяцев назад
Which level do you play? Because until 24 you can usually play a more passive build with healing stream totem and not use chain heal at all. 25% of my healing is riptide followed by healing stream totem with like 20%. I spend most of my time doing dps. The chain heal build has a ton of mana issues though. I feel like I need way more time healing in it and my mana suffers
@xlightninghawk6360
@xlightninghawk6360 6 месяцев назад
Then you playing resto sham wrong. In dungeons you use healing stream, riptide and healing wave, chain heal shouldnt be used really
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