heart disease (carnivore vs. vegan doctors)

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In this segment of opposing views, heart disease causes are discussed between two of the most successful cardiologists in their field.
Dr. Ovadia is a cardiologist who supports the carnivore lifestyle as the optimal diet, Dr. Kahn is a Vegan who supports a Plant Based Lifestyle to prevent heart disease as the optimal diet.
Without engaging in meaningful, long-form conversations between two opposing views, we live in echo chambers -- false realities -- never challenging science. By the end of this conversation the two Cardiologists who have fundamentally different methodologies agreed on probably the biggest factor that causes heart disease. What that means is that everyone, regardless of eating carnivore or vegan, can start with this simple truth agreed upon by the two doctors and know that they are fundamentally eradicating heart disease.
I hope you like this, please share thoughts below and review the references provided by both doctors. Thank you.
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00:00 - Intro
01:16 - Rules of the conversation
03:41 - Dr. Kahn introduces his credentials and background
04:35 - Dr. Ovadia introduces his credentials and background
06:17 - "Does high cholesterol cause heart disease," Dr. Kahn response.
07:49 - "Does high cholesterol cause heart disease," Dr. Ovadia response.
09:50 - Discussion, "what else causes heart disease?"
16:10 - "Are Statins beneficial, and why?" - Dr. Kahn response
19:00 - "Are Statins beneficial, and why?" - Dr. Kahn response
22:00 - Open discussion
27:00 - "What role does refined sugar play in heart health?" - Dr Ovadia
29:10 - "What role does refined sugar play in heart health?" - Dr. Kahn
34:20 - Open discussion on the AHA, "questionable data," carnivore diet vs. plant based diet.
38:10 - "Are Seed Oils causing inflammation and heart issues?" - Dr. Kahn
41:26 - "Are Seed Oils causing inflammation and heart issues?" - Dr. Ovadia
43:00 - "How can we come to a mutually agreed upon solution for heart disease?" - Dr Kahn
48:53 - "Is our science fundamentally flawed?" Ancel Keys, etc. - Dr. Kahn response
52:53 - "Is our science fundamentally flawed?" Dr. Ovadia Response
55:30 - What we agree on for curing heart disease / closing statements.
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References shared by Dr. Ovadia: journals.lww.com/co-endocrino...
Buy Dr. Ovadia's Book "Stay Off My Operating Table" - ifixhearts.com/books/
References shared by Dr. Kahn: www.drjoelkahn.com/joe-rogan-...
Ancel Keys 7-Countries Study, Dr. Kahn : www.truehealthinitiative.org/...
Buy Dr. Kahn's Book "Your Whole Heart Solution: What You Can Do to Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease Now" - www.amazon.ca/Your-Whole-Hear...

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@realjasondaniels 6 месяцев назад

I’ve been a vegetarian, a raw vegan, a paleo, and a pescatarian, in that order, over the last 15 years, and all I did was get sicker until I started carnivore three weeks ago. Now, all of my health problems are reversing. I’m off three out of five of my meds. My energy is through the roof. I’ll never eat another plant again.🦁🥩💪

@MaryHink 6 месяцев назад

I love the carnivore diet!!! I plan to stay its course forever.

@sportbilly6329 6 месяцев назад

Yes me as well standard then vegetarian then vegan then fruitarian then paleo then keto then carnivore nothing compares to carnivore it’s almost like we were designed to eat this way we have fancy phones and cars but our bodies are still early man, our entire digestive system is designed for protein and fat which we are made of, we don’t have a cecum anymore evolution knocked that out, it’s 50,000 years ago in another ice age and people are saying pass the broccoli 🤡 which is funny for one that wasn’t a choice and two none and I do mean none of these supermarket vegetable existed in the forms seen today

@dountoothers 5 месяцев назад

Raw vegan is not recommended by any doctors. I do whole foods plant based and I cook much of my food as it is much easier to get the desired amount of caloric energy. I think you're going to eventually die from a stroke or heart attack, just going by pure probability, but I hope you wise up before then. God Bless you.

@YoMama-Sucks 5 месяцев назад

You did it wrong. Kale is not enough carbs to give you energy. You should of ate carbs.

@sportbilly6329 5 месяцев назад

@@YoMama-Sucks but the actual human requirement for carbs is zero? none ever so why did he do it wrong?

@SarahDale111 2 месяца назад

Kerry from homesteadhow was diagnosed with congestive heart failure, which they say is an irreversible condition. A year of eating a carnivore diet healed his heart. ❤

@palmajavier День назад

Unfortunately for many doctors these are "isolated cases" that are not relevant to science because for genera practice they can't rely on things like that, regardless that those "isolated cases" have become hundreds of thousands they are still waiting for "real science" to study and tell them if that if is real or not. Sad, sad, sad,. The whole medicine industry is sad.

@user-xj5xp6qz5g 2 месяца назад

People who just dig their heels in and start acting defensive are sending a clear message in my opinion.

@lazur1 Месяц назад

One can be bad representative for a good idea.

@user-xj5xp6qz5g Месяц назад

@@lazur1 true, but this is classic human behavior.. he's losing an argument and he knows it. thats why he's behaving this way.. not because he isnt a good communicator.

@happyapple4269 Месяц назад

its his whole lifes perception , he will defend it at all costs.

@lazur1 Месяц назад

@@user-xj5xp6qz5g Indeed, but that’s him. There are better spokesmen for essentially the same beliefs.

@pittsky 4 месяца назад

THANK YOU Dr. Ovadia for bringing up the harm of seed oils.

@ForthehealthSwartzenGood 2 месяца назад

I agree….. I don’t understand why dr Kahn will not agree on this point because philosophically he does agree…… “you won’t find them in my house “

@heynow01 2 месяца назад

We all have known how our medical establishment has jumped on bad science and refused to re-evaluate until someone finally makes enough of a fuss about the facts and wakes up the conversation.

@educational-101 Месяц назад

The assertion of safety rests on a mere hypothesis, not empirical evidence. Dr. Khan’s preference for organic canola oil underscores a shift towards healthier alternatives. The crux of the Minnesota Coronary Experiment’s controversy lies in its use of margarine, a product historically riddled with trans fats. Although unrecognized as a health risk during the 1970s, trans fats are now implicated in adverse health outcomes. The study’s lack of precise dosage data further complicates the interpretation of its findings, rendering it an incomplete chapter in the annals of nutritional science

@Mr-hq6ox Месяц назад

What harm of seed oils? Can you share a human trial showing they’re harmful?

@educational-101 Месяц назад

@@Mr-hq6ox They would only have the one that used margarine containing Trans Fatty Acids

@margielynch1465 2 месяца назад

I started carnivore 2 weeks ago. I have a lot of healing to do inside. I was Vegan and vegetarian and it made me sickly. In two weeks the joint swelling went down, and my clarity is sharper. Looking forward to more healing

@mariyo08 2 месяца назад

I was also vegetarian and then Paleo. I started carnivore 95 days ago. Gut and even constipation healed! I can see my waist line as never before. Joint pain gone too!

@cathiemcginnis3997 2 месяца назад

@@mariyo08Me too! 2 and a half years as carnivore and have not had one day where I didn't feel amazing! It would take too much space and time to tell you all the health benefits I have derived by eating a carnivore diet.

@kathleenphillips7145 2 месяца назад

How can you stomach eating an animal that had a digestive system and a face? Ethically I just cannot. 🤢

@cathiemcginnis3997 2 месяца назад

@kathleenphillips7145 Well, medically, I just cannot eat plants. The fiber and toxins in them destroyed my gut. The only things I can eat are eggs and meat and seafood. So medically speaking, I can't eat anything else unless I want to be doubled over in pain and in the bathroom all day. I have also gotten rid of all my joint pain, my high BP, my pre-diabetes, painful arthritis in my hands and elsewhere is gone, my sleep has improved, my lifelong dry skin is gone. Shall I go on? I did this diet as a last resort to see if it would help me feel better. And it did. I feel better than I did in my 30's. It was like a miracle for me. I am 76, and I feel amazing every day! My health is the most important thing to me. I don't care what anyone else eats.

@Tomas-oc4lo Месяц назад

@@kathleenphillips7145 it's up to you, if you heal when you change food, I prefer that, the other is just emotional arguments.

@sportysbusiness 4 месяца назад

I've been a 'healthy' low fat omnivore (increasing health issues), plant based for 2 years (abject failure) and now carnivore for 4+ years (amazing!). I will say that without question, the carnivore diet is the healthiest and has eliminated ALL my health issues. I just wish we could agree that, irrespective of plant based or animal based, we can be healthy if we eat locally, seasonally and avoid processed foods and seed oils. Dr Kahn may well think he's healthy eating plants, but is he optimally healthy? Probably not. And his ignorance concerning LDL was shocking but not surprising.

@wizzyletsgetbusy6878 9 часов назад

Not to mention B12 deficiency!!

@pbziegler 2 месяца назад

When I was a vegan (4 years) I was amazed at how rage-filled and closed minded my fellow vegans were. These days, (I am 82 years old) I eat a low carb diet and my weight has come down, I am not longer in the pre-diabetic range and I am no longer on blood pressure meds. I don't need attack vegans but that wasn't healthy diet for me--I gained weight, was always hungry, snacking all the time. Dr Kahn has the mind of a religious fundamentalist like so many of the vegans I knew.

@laurenknighthughes 2 месяца назад

Thank you for sharing your perspective! So happy you’ve found health :) so happy for you and very happy to have you here my friend

@rameshb9525 2 месяца назад

I have also noticed that RU-vid vegans seem angry and aggressive, and spread veganism as though it is a religion. In reality, it's all about the elimination of processed junk food.

@brunetyannick1174 2 месяца назад

If you're snacking, maybe you just didn't eat the right things in the right quantities ?

@ddhqj2023 2 месяца назад

If you can go back to eating meat, you were never a vegan. You ate a plant based diet and that was it. A vegan quits eating animals out of respect for their right to live, free of interference from us.

@Pancajayna 2 месяца назад

@@brunetyannick1174 snacking is fundamentally a symptom of a carb based diet... its not about the quantities but rather how the body deals with carbs...

@teresayoung1138 4 месяца назад

Dr. Ovadia won this debate by far. Dr. Kahn was very defensive and totally lost me when he promoted seed oils as healthy. Thinking his ego is holding him back from seeing the truth.

@user-xj5xp6qz5g 2 месяца назад

I noticed this behavior in him as well and it turned me off. People who just dig their heels in and start acting defensive are sending a clear message in my opinion.

@Mark-ho6tn 2 месяца назад

Anyone defending seed oils is a shill it has nothing to do with ego. He’s being paid by certain interests.

@davem4193 2 месяца назад

Dr. Kahn did some serious mental gymnastics to defend Ancel Keys.

@MZS22 Месяц назад

Or he has conflict of interest...

@j_karma Месяц назад

You people are high. Go back to Joe Rogan and your safe bubble of podcasts that only tell you what you want to hear, if that's what you took from this. Ovadia and Kahn AGREED on 95% of what they were discussing and you morons can only see conflict and focus on who "won". The problem isn't Ovadia or Kahn. The problem is you.

@jilld6240 7 месяцев назад

Dr. Ovadia is the BEST!

@IFixHearts 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the support.

@laurengianna9944 4 месяца назад

@@IFixHeartsI agree y😊u are the best!!

@josephcostello1812 Месяц назад

I love him too!

@MagicButtersClass Месяц назад

He basically spent a hour making a fool of himself spouting nonsense… but yeah if that’s your idea of the best 🙈

@HoneyDrake Месяц назад

👏👏👏👏

@rochellefreeland4338 2 месяца назад

I do like how Dr. Ovadia always states his case and also makes a point to support Dr. Kahn’s view. I also like how Dr. Kahn is open to doing CT calcium scores for his patients. I do not think Dr. Kahn can leave this interview without really contemplating researching carnivore. The one thing I have noticed is the carnivore doctors look a lot healthier than plant based diets. I think it is important that all doctors keep trying to figure this out! They were lied to in medical school! I hope to see many more of these conversations. Great interview!

@rainedyani8505 2 месяца назад

Hardly. They all look greasy and swollen!

@educational-101 Месяц назад

It seems some individuals excel at crafting less-than-stellar remarks. To clarify with a touch of erudition: Dr. Kahn embraced a vegan lifestyle a mere three years subsequent to Dr. Ovadia’s entrance into the world. Does this timeline not illuminate the absurdity of the original statement for you?

@antonjoubert6980 Месяц назад

@@educational-101he says in the first minute that he's been a vegan for 47years!? - edit he said plant based for the last 47 years?

@blazeboyblazeboy4470 7 месяцев назад

Is there proof high consumption beef causes bowel cancer? I used to have swollen legs, red spots from poor circulation on ankles amd toe.nails drying out. Ate carnivore, all problems PLUS ALL PAIN GONE...

@graphicmaterial5947 7 месяцев назад

Actually, there is not one documented case that red meat consumption has caused ANY cancer. Not one. Check out Georgia Ede's presentation of all the relevant studies. Happy for your healing, cheers!

@AdamMansbridge 7 месяцев назад

No. The studies that showed cancer from meat were very very faulty. For examples the epidemiological study of nurses found meat dangerous based on a set of questions like "in the last four years how often did you eat... ... Hamburger" Where high intake of hamburger was taken as high meat consumption, despite it often being a meal of a triple cheeseburger with fries and coke The anti-meat science is due to influence of the Seventh Day Adventist cult

@kiwikim5163 2 месяца назад

There are no studies showing long term meat consumption causes bowel cancer. Observational studies have been conducted but are confounded by the fact that the meat eater also are French foes, soda pop, processed carbs etc, so they can’t show valid results.

@JonWRowe 2 месяца назад

@@kiwikim5163 Moreover, if one understands the Warburg Effect, one would understand that if you just ate beef with few if any carbs, it will help to fight and prevent cancer.

@PlainJane1421 2 месяца назад

It could be that it is what is eaten with the meat that has caused cancer.

@stevelanghorn1407 7 месяцев назад

Excellent interview. So refreshing to bring “opposing” diet proponents together for such intelligent, honest conversation. More please!

@danmarjenka6361 2 месяца назад

For me, the center aisles of the grocery store have become just a multi-lane freeway to get from the meat department to the checkout lanes.

@johnl764 Месяц назад

I wish the meat was front and center.

@patc1309 Месяц назад

😂😂😂😂

@rickyelvis3215 10 дней назад

and a quick pit stop in the dairy section

@cathywithac3793 4 дня назад

Real food is where it's at.

@domagojJugovic 3 дня назад

you read my mind

@two-strokesmoke7289 7 месяцев назад

Red meat does NOT cause inflammation, in fact probably reduces or eliminates it!!!!! My opinion based on experience. Sugar and high carb diet does, however. (also based on experience, my own that is)

@Korvxx 7 месяцев назад

Without carbs sure, with carbs maybe It can be bad (with starches or bad digestion)

@two-strokesmoke7289 7 месяцев назад

@@miraak8523 Thanks for the reply!!!! (and the testimony of a carnivore diet)

@JQUICK21 7 месяцев назад

@@miraak8523 Thank You!

@leeboss373 7 месяцев назад

Dr Kahn only needs to look in the mirror to see the swelling in his face and sinuses😅

@spikyball5883 7 месяцев назад

Oooooh based on your experience it reduces inflammation?? Could you feel all that inflammation in your arterial walls bro?? Damn, you could really provide huge usage to the world of science with your superhuman abilities!!

@oldpurplebelt Месяц назад

Great video. It's rare nowadays to find a debate moderator that is fair to both sides and is not pushing their own biases into the debate. Well done!

@proudtobeweird 7 месяцев назад

Who else is in Dr. Ovadia’s camp ? 🙌🏻

@kwagnert 7 месяцев назад

Dr. Nadir Ali

@LowCarbLowDrama 7 месяцев назад

@kwagnert Dr Nadir Ali was probably the first keto cardiologist who wasnt/isn't afraid of speaking the truth and say no to the statin pushers.

@user-pw9mc5wp2k 7 месяцев назад

Absolutely 💯

@njsongwriter 7 месяцев назад

I am. I'm 76 and I've lost over 50 pounds doing keto/carnivore/ketovore. I don't have high blood pressure but last January I got a CAC score of 305 and up until three weeks ago I have been experiencing unstable angina episodes always at rest. Obviously I have atherosclerosis from eating a poor standard American diet for decades. I currently avoid all grains, starches, high carb vegetables and fruit except for blueberries occasionally. I was taking 4,000 FUs of nattokinase once daily for nearly a year. Three weeks ago I increased my dosage to 12,000 FUs. Nine days ago I started the Pauling Therapy taking high dose vitamin C and L-Lysine. For the past three weeks I haven't had an angina episode. I have no intention of changing anything I'm presently doing except for getting more exercise. My triglycerides to HDL ratio is healthy per Dr. Ovadia's videos. One more thing I'd like to add is concerning oxalates. I used to eat a lot of high oxalate foods like almonds and spinach. I havexa history of making calcium oxalate kidney stones. I've looked into whether or not high oxalates could be causative for atherosclerosis. It seems that there is some evidence that it is possible. Three months after doing carnivore my wife and I both experienced oxalate dumping. So I really feel that oxalates could have been part of my problem. My wife saw Fuhrman in his office. What a waste of $500. All he did was repeat what was in his books. No personal tailored treatment suggestions whatsoever. We wasted a year doing things his way. Her blood pressure never improved. Why? Because insulin resistance was the problem and his vegan diet includes too many carbs. Now when I occasionally catch him being interviewed on you tube he strikes me as the most arrogant narcissist I've ever seen. Gary Taubes book Good Calories, Bad Calories convinced me that being a vegan wasn't a viable solution.

@kwagnert 7 месяцев назад

@@njsongwriter your angina episodes could be an electrolyte issue. Always add some salt (Himalayan salt) or SOLE to your drinking water. Also, magnesium deficiency can be a problem. Try adding that because vitamins C is not the solution to your symptoms. 64 year old here (today! :)), full carnivore, but had to stop ALL dairy products (except butter). Caused some stomach issues and sometimes a feeling of bloating (inflammation) that felt worse at night. All gone now, just eating bacon, eggs, red meats (all), sardines, shrimps, lobster, etc. No plants or fruits except decaff coffee and sometimes unsweetened hot cacao powder in water, which is less than 2 carbs per drink, and a huge pile of butter! and I do use one teaspoon of allulose/monkfruit to lightly sweeten it. It doesn't affect glucose/insuline/ketones at all) :), tastes great and I dropped the heavy cream that I used to add to it. Even though unsweetened cacao powder has some oxalates, I don't care because it's a small amount and it's basically the only "plant based" components I drink. As for seasoning, I only use salt and pepper. Nothing else! Cheers and "Live long and prosper!"

@harrymartin8979 2 месяца назад

Admirable composture of Lauren inspite of Dr. Kahn's correction, stayed calm and beautiful.

@mdh157 2 месяца назад

Would like to hear Dr. Kahn's opinion on why the Minnesota Heart Study results were held back by Keys and his cohorts. We now know it was because the results were not what the authors had hoped for. THAT is a problem.

@sueme1954 Месяц назад

Extreme problem also with s.d.a. on the warpath against meat and kissing sugar's a☆☆.

@mariar4624 2 месяца назад

As soon as Dr Kahn mentioned the American Heart Association, he lost my attention.

@buckjones4901 2 месяца назад

His real name should be Dr. Con. I am not even carnivore, just meat based with low carbs. I can attest eating heavy grains and soy wrecked my gut health when I was younger.

@denofpigs2575 Месяц назад

All three letter organizations are evil. I have not seen a single one that has your or my best interests at heart.

@rawmilkmike Месяц назад

Khan's arguments are so bad that he's practically procarnivore. 33:48

@mostpopularpresidentever Месяц назад

🎯🎯🎯🎯

@sherryk0428 Месяц назад

Best comment on the thread! Me too!

@marquitafreeman9830 5 месяцев назад

I love the fact that both professionals agree that lifestyle changes and choices are best instead of writing prescriptions for every little thing. That was my main reason for not going to the Dr. b/c I didn’t wanna be put on medication for things I could change on my own.

@jeffferguson3572 7 месяцев назад

25 minutes in and love the discussion. I admit I am a carnivore and have no plans to go vegan but glad to hear two sides and in many cases similar approaches but different treatment styles. I am definitely a Dr Ovadia fan. I hope to stay off of his operating table as he says.

@IFixHearts 7 месяцев назад

Thanks you for watching

@williamhartman9 6 месяцев назад

You probably never even heard of ovadia before this. You just sided with the meat guy before you ever heard the whole debate. You carnis have your mind made up and nothing could ever change it , not even after it kills people.

@laurengianna9944 4 месяца назад

@@IFixHeartswe truly love you Dr. Ovadia, thank you for all you do ♥️🙏🏼.

@thomassaddul 7 месяцев назад

Dr. Ovadia is the man!

@iwasmadetoworshipyou6214 2 месяца назад

Last year my son was 273 pounds, in the gym five days a week and could not lose weight nor gain muscle. He was diagnosed with hashimotos in July of 2023. He went full carnivore that very month. Today he is 183 pounds, down about 90 pounds. has a chiseled toned body and doctors cannot find hashimotos . In addition, his allergies are gone . Dr. Kahn is too defensive, typical of many medical professionals compromised by corporate funding. His learning is definitely stunted! Studies can be skewed to say whatever the funding parties want them to say! I know too many people on Statins whose heart conditions have gotten worse and are suffering issues with foggy brain. Processed Seed Oils, really? Disingenuous to say the least!

@HoneyDrake Месяц назад

Yes seed oils are bad . What’s made them popular is that they’re cheap but in the long run it is very debilitating to your health. On carnivore you’ll need need your doctor less . The pill pushing industry will lose lots of business. Keeping us sick because it guarantees their bank account will flourish.💰💰💲💲

@realsteel8113 Месяц назад

Zero carbs, low or no sugar, pure meat, eggs, cheese, no seed oils, and select fruits and vegetables for filling in extra requirements. That’s basically everything that works for me. Tried and tested. IMO and experience (family members also) sugar and seed oils are much more dangerous than the “traditional” things claimed to cause heart disease.

@dombarton2483 5 месяцев назад

Statins also induce insulin resistance. They do not reduce the incidence of heart disease, increase muscle pain and damage, and liver damage.

@judithdickey8464 4 месяца назад

Also may cause dementia

@Miraak1868 2 месяца назад

Statins caused me agonizing night muscle cramps. I threw all statins in my garbage pile ! ! !

@dombarton2483 2 месяца назад

@@Miraak1868 good for you

@heynow01 2 месяца назад

@@Miraak1868were you prescribed a statin because of high ldl and a high CAC score both?

@Miraak1868 2 месяца назад

@@heynow01 I would guess high ldl. I am over 60 so high ldl is good for me.

@elliecourtney777 7 месяцев назад

Dr Khan’s personality automatically turns me off from his opinions. Anyone who turns to personal insults when arguing a point blows any credibility they have, imo.

@BrBr-dh5ec 6 месяцев назад

Shawn baker like to pick on vegans so that's okay???

@worldpiece2023 5 месяцев назад

I can put my money to see Dr Baker against this plant MD any time. The plant doctor will lose on the first look on both of them.

@marianne1959 2 месяца назад

Exactly!!! That tells me they truly are brainwashed by "research" bought and paid for by food companies and big pharma.

@KJ-lb4tj 2 месяца назад

@BrBr-dh5ec that's a different person. Elliecourtney was simply saying THIS guy Dr Khan turns her off because HE turns to personal insult. What Dr Baker does is not a reflection of Dr khan, nor an argument that has anything to do with Dr khan.

@bigpete4864 7 месяцев назад

Great job hosting Lauren! One of the best 2 sided debates I’ve seen 🙌🙏

@therealdeal3672 4 месяца назад

Great job putting these conversations together and I like how you tightened up the debate schedule and you're taking more control. It is interesting to see the very limited overlap in viewpoints. And Dr Khan is so wrong about seed oils and added sugar. It's become hard for me to appreciate the vegan point of view at all. It's so hardcore ignoring human evolutionary diet. I became so allergic to so many plant foods because I have a latex allergy. And plants were definitely going to be the death of me. Love being a carnivore! Best thing I ever did for myself. Took eating the wrong things for a few years thinking I was being healthy and piling up on oxalates and ending up in the ER for me to figure it out.

@slaterider 5 месяцев назад

I lowered my Lp(a) by 80nmol/L after 4 months on zero carb carnivore diet. My cardiologist told me this was a hereditary condition and there was no way to lower it.

@johnkim6447 4 месяца назад

Various things including disease can transiently reduce Lp(a) however this doesn’t mean that they overall lower cardiovascular risk overall. At the end of the day something might lower something or increase something but the outcome is what matters

@luanneneill2877 7 дней назад

While I was low carb, my Lp(a) lowered when I started taking niacin. It only lasted awhile, though, as it quit working. I quit taking the niacin when I read that it can cause increased blood glucose. At that point I’d been carnivore for a year. Unfortunately, being strict carnivore hasn’t reduced my Lp(a). My ApoB is still high on carnivore, too. That won’t deter me from staying carnivore, though, since I’ve seen many benefits, including resolving my sugar addiction.

@Elsiegirl 2 месяца назад

Dr. Khan looks unhappy and unhealthy. Dr. Ovadia looks happy and vibrant.

@ddhqj2023 2 месяца назад

He does not look unhealthy. He looks leaner in the face than the other guy who looks pudgy which is indicative of eating too much of something. Kahn is also older.

@shannonalexander4622 2 месяца назад

There is a 20 year age difference between these two doctors!

@dbuck1964 2 месяца назад

@@ddhqj2023he looks VERY unhappy and VERY unhealthy.

@ddhqj2023 2 месяца назад

@@dbuck1964 For a man his age who is not puffed out and fat in the face which so many are these days, he looks good. You're just used to seeing fat people and they look puffy instead of thin in the face. And I'll bet some people would say that you look unhappy most of the time too. Let's quit judging people by how their faces look. You don't know if he's happy or unhappy and that isn't the issue is it?

@Jeremya74 Месяц назад

@@ddhqj2023don't judge others by how there faces look you say right after you judge someone saying they are probably around fat people with fat faces...I think they both look fine.ovida said he was obese for years and kahn is an older man..maybe the answer is a little of eating both..along with the things they agree on of course

@KoPilotFlys 2 месяца назад

I'm sorry but when Dr. Kahn described his history and thoughts around Ansel Keys, he instantly lost all credibility with me. He shut me down on hearing anything else he had to say. Ansel Keys was never part of the solution but rather part of the problem.

@stevej.6674 2 месяца назад

Totally agree. That vegan doc just proved to me that he’s a knob when he banged on about Ansel Keys. Typical of vegan health experts!

@kimberlylovato6426 2 месяца назад

Agree!

@rollingstone3017 2 месяца назад

Yup. Shows his ignorance and/or dishonesty.

@punisherthunder 2 месяца назад

That and clearly not paying attention while doomscrolling studies as Dr. Ovadia spoke. So disrespectful.

@beaubolinger1521 Месяц назад

Absolutely Correct from Australia

@donaldmcpherson3226 2 месяца назад

Very calm, good moderator who did not take offense when she could have.

@dombarton2483 5 месяцев назад

Dr Chris Knobbe clearly showed how seed based oils affects ones health. All oils once heated change into dangerous by products. The biggest issue is that they oxidize very rapidly.

@MeatMaticus 7 месяцев назад

Lauren, I have really enjoyed your approach to informing us in these debates/discussions. Dang good work!

@theweightlosslady1 2 месяца назад

I was a vegan and or vegetarian and I was in terrible shape. I feel so much better eating a meat-based diet.

@johndoex3x3 Месяц назад

Me too

@spinachtriangle Месяц назад

I have been vegan since 2018 and I am in amazing shape. I feel so much better eating a plant based diet. I think it is a lot more nuanced than just saying i was vegan and or vegeterian... vegetarian can mean dairy/eggs which is a big part of the carnivore diet. I think humans can thrive on either diet provided we exercise and stay happy and healthy. The long term impacts of going carnivore are unknown and will only be know in the next 30-40 years when the current internet meat doctors hit 90.

@johndoex3x3 Месяц назад

@@spinachtriangle actually it is the opposite, humans have been eating meat for ages, only in the last 10,000 yrs agriculture has been developed. The muscle gain with meat is ridiculous. I was vegan for almost 9 yrs, no cheating, and I can say I deteriorated with time. Pay attention my brother to your mass, strength, drive, energy, joints, mood, wish u the best

@michaelstephens9852 Месяц назад

@spinachtriangle I did both. I feel way better on the carnivore diet and honestly, it's easier. But I have hashimotos, so maybe that is a factor.

@johndoex3x3 Месяц назад

@@michaelstephens9852 have u tried lugol ?

@therealdeal3672 4 месяца назад

Seed oils are by definition a highly processed food. Khan is so wrong on that. And the fact that he is Ancel Keys biographer is extremely irritating to me. He was one of the biggest producers of propaganda historically regarding diet. I will acknowledge that he lived 100 years so he must have been doing something that worked for him.

@kimberlylovato6426 2 месяца назад

Ancel Keys was enjoying fatty red meats regularly behind the scenes. He didn’t practice what he preached. He was bought and paid for by Big Parma and the Food industry.

@AgrippaMaxentius 27 дней назад

The studies are on Kahn’s side, plenty of studies showing that WFPB reverses or helps to stall atherosclerosis. Absolutely ZERO carnivore studies showing the same thing. But telling people what they want to hear pays more, and so does the beef industry. Trust me Okra and Celery farmers don’t have much in the way of financial influence. People like to be told that their bad habits are ok.

@therealdeal3672 26 дней назад

@@AgrippaMaxentiusKahn has conned you obviously! You are clueless. But I don't care. You do just exactly what you want to do. I'm going to stay carnivore and keep pain-free and no fatty liver from fruits and no diverticulitis from roughage that I don't need. No gallstones from not eating enough fat. There is 100 million times more evidence for the carnivore diet then there is for carbohydrate eating and plant eating. Check out the Paleo anthropological record. Ever see any cave paintings where heads of lettuce were depicted? Nope.

@sethanderson9393 День назад

@@AgrippaMaxentius Amen. Sincerely, a logical omnivore.

@nevillegoddard4966 5 часов назад

@@AgrippaMaxentius You're just plain wrong. There are studies showing the benefits of the CD. Many many times more to the contrary though, because they're paid for by sugar & processed food companies! And these studies are mostly epidemalogical anyway, the weakest kind.

@1timbarrett 6 месяцев назад

Glad to see the ‘Ketogenic’ textbook on Dr Ovadia’s bookshelf. Here is a medical professional who is keeping up on his reading! 👏

@jimlofts5433 6 месяцев назад

age 73 - T2 insulin dependent - 20 months keto / Carnivore - weight loss 36kgs - HBA1C 5.6 from 8.5 - BP 117/62 from 155/90 - IR 2.0 from 3.8 - Daily Insulin 9 units from 140 - all kidney / liver markers improved - LDL slightly up - HDL up - Trigs down - pant size 34 from 46 - a vegan diet for some people seems to be sustainable - room for all

@laurengianna9944 4 месяца назад

Love hearing this 🙌🏼. So happy for you 🙏🏼.

@jimlofts5433 4 месяца назад

@@laurengianna9944 its all about too many carbs / sugars any reduction from SAD is on the right path - no need for extremes - find your lane - down another 1kg + latest IR = trigs/hdl ratio is now 1.4 - weight loss slow as less than 10kgs to go for target weight of abt 75Kgs - enjoy

@robb907 7 месяцев назад

Very nice interviews Lauren. I like that it was a respectful debate between two highly educated colleagues who seemed to have an equally shared goal for optimal human health for their patients. Neither have a my way or the highway viewpoint and I think we need more of this.

@timov13 4 месяца назад

No, that just creates more confusion. Ultimately us viewers are watching these debates to arrive at a destination about optimal health

@guya5352 2 месяца назад

Why didn't you talk about oxalate,, phytate and lectins in plants?

@ajbfwb 6 месяцев назад

Appearing on "The Doctors" is not something I'm sure I'd brag about.....and just because fruit has fiber, tempering the glucose impact, doesn't mean it's not going to be a problem for blood sugar, particularly in metabolically damaged people. Kahn, choosing to say that Keyes made it to the age of "one hundred point five" reminds me of a kid sticking up the appropriate number of fingers and saying, "I'm THIS many!".

@jodybotha День назад

These kinds of debates are important. Thank you

@DaveIrish66 2 месяца назад

Agree that insulin resistance is at the root of all metobolic diseases. Chronic high levels of insulin is directly related to too much glucose in the body. Meat and fat do not induce insulin responses. Carbs do

@terirodriguez1363 Месяц назад

fact

@LaurieR2255 6 месяцев назад

Lauren, I love your channel. These intelligent debates are great, and you do a great job moderating!

@laurenknighthughes 6 месяцев назад

You are very sweet thank you my friend, very happy that you are here and the channel found you ✨💛

@gesheepistemology8050 2 месяца назад

1000 days carnivore... got rid of a shopping list of illnesses.

@earthpart3 27 дней назад

Lies and anecdotes.

@AgrippaMaxentius 27 дней назад

Total fabrication. The studies overwhelmingly show that WFPB diets reverse or stall atherosclerosis. Not a single carnivore study shows that. But at least you’re eating what you enjoy.

@imanoobtuber 3 дня назад

elevated cortisol will do that 😂 might want to get serum cortisol and muscle cortisol checked out before you become a walking cancer patient.

@Suraya-kk4sc 6 месяцев назад

I enjoyed this convo and love to practice keeping my mind open. I'm carnivore 2 years, I tell people what keeps me going has nothing to do with science or history, it has to do with how I feel. The diet that works AND that you can stick to long enough for it to work is the right one for you. But if I had to choose a diet to follow based off how the other people who follow the diet look, I'd choose carnivore every time, they most often present as a picture of Health compared to a vegan 🤔

@888jucu 6 месяцев назад

Why swing to extremes why not healthy omnivore? Im 52 very healthy and have been omnivore all my life 🤷‍♂️

@Suraya-kk4sc 6 месяцев назад

@@888jucu Many different reasons, most often people try extremes because they have a health problem of some sort and this fixes it for them. If you are healthy you probably wouldn't have much cause to change 🙂

@888jucu 6 месяцев назад

@@Suraya-kk4sc Yes that is my assessment also e.g if have some condition e.g IBS etc then trying some sort of elimination diet makes sense. If people are just trying to do something for weight loss then going Carnivore may get immediate improvement if for example they stop eating highly processed crap but I believe a balanced diet of mostly natural or minimally processed would be better in the long term but who am I to say 👍🤣

@laurenknighthughes 6 месяцев назад

It’s often a way to heal. No one has to be carnicore forever, ut they can temporarily to heal and end food addiction

@jimcrowe1993 Месяц назад

I have only watched 11 minutes of this video. I never comment. I am thrilled that someone is doing some face to face opposing view videos. I have only seen Dr Berry and Dr Saladeno do an interview where they didn’t totally agree. I applaud both these doctors for thier willingness. Huge shout out to Lauren for bringing this together and so far anyway holding it respectful. Great job. I hope other major influencers will follow suite.

@m.c.andreescu8695 7 месяцев назад

Wow! What a GREAT interview! Huge props for this desperately needed cultural CPR. We can have civil conversations and our own opinions and self control and lively discussion and still retain our worth as people! Thank you for this Lauren, Dr. Khan and Dr. Ovadia, great work and very helpful for all of us trying to work this out!

@dountoothers 5 месяцев назад

I'm sorry my friend, but this was not a very good interview. Dr Khan is not a good debater and should have dispatched this quack he was opposing multiple times with study data that he could have cited but failed to. I suggest you watch the following "debate" between another popular carnivore quack, Anthony Chaffee and a whole food plant based advocate Matt Nagra. It's long but well worth it. Let me know then who makes the better case. It could save your life. Good luck and God Bless. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3FFV0w55k2I.html

@tinahelpme 4 месяца назад

Ancel Keys was the guy who put cigarettes into military ration packs...great guy!

@DobyDuke 7 дней назад

He was funded by big government

@crystalresler5534 5 месяцев назад

This is most excellent...i lean carnivore but i appreciated hearing both sides. And Lauren you did a fantastic job of moderating...very fair and professional.

@zaluq 4 месяца назад

She asked directly about sugars and Kahn instantly included saturated fat , Kahn is dishonest and has his agenda

@honeytherat2017 2 месяца назад

Probably in bed with globalists

@stevej.6674 2 месяца назад

Yep and he’s a total whack job!

@cathyenglish8500 Месяц назад

So condescending to her

@AgrippaMaxentius 27 дней назад

@zaluq 27 дней назад

@@AgrippaMaxentius The studies are questionnaires, not science

@JennifertxCarnivore 7 месяцев назад

Dr. Ovadia supporter here!

@IFixHearts 7 месяцев назад

Thanks you for watching 🫀

@JennifertxCarnivore 7 месяцев назад

@@IFixHearts absolutely! ☺️

@rosemariecocoy9192 2 месяца назад

Dr . Ovadia supporter here too!

@AgrippaMaxentius 27 дней назад

Of course , people like to be told their bad habits are just fine. Doctors in the 50s overwhelmingly recommended smoking, they even had their favorite brands! But people with intelligence look at the studies, and the studies show plant based diets reverse or stall heart disease. Can’t say the same about meat.

@rickyelvis3215 10 дней назад

@@AgrippaMaxentiusmainstream grain fed meats.. not the good healthy grass fed chemical free healthy fat meats! enjoy you broccoli.

@LessJunkMoreHealth 7 месяцев назад

Great job bringing these two doctors together for this discussion. One of the several points of note was with Dr. Kahn and his dismissive choice of words and overreaction to Ancel Keys questions. I question this type of approach.

@DarthCarnivore 7 месяцев назад

Excellent discussion! Thanks for setting this up and sharing!

@wretchlikeme6899 Месяц назад

Gave vegan 2 1/2 years and was always hungry and tired. I broke my ankle running and gained 40 lbs because I couldn’t workout 3 hours a day like I was. I am now carnivore 3 months have lost 20 lbs of fat gained in muscle, feel great, and I am never hangry. 65 years old endless energy!

@earthpart3 27 дней назад

Anecdotal lies... is that all you clowns have

@8888riqui 7 месяцев назад

Thank u for your channel and this conversation greatly aappreciate you and your channel❤

@skyisnolimit9720 4 месяца назад

What an outstanding panel discussion ! Thanks for arranging it.

@armanzbahrani291 2 месяца назад

Fantastic debate! Thanks for bringing them together.

@marianmoses9604 2 месяца назад

This was such a good discussion. So nice to see a largely respectful exchange of views on this topic. At the end of the day what we all should want is to discover truth - not just to score points for our side’s preferred dietary approach.

@TheRealDoctorNelson 7 месяцев назад

Bottom line, more studies on animal based (carnivore and ketogenic) diets are needed…but I don’t think we will get them. No sugar No processed foods No seed oils Emphasize whole foods and you will be healthier!!! Now, pass the ribeye!!!

@brucecampbell6133 4 месяца назад

Based on my own experience with my own body over the past 6 years, Dr. Kahn's spiel is significantly flawed. Some of his claims seem exaggerated or even baseless. The vegan diet to me was completely impossible because of my insulin resistance (40% of the US young adult population is insulin resistant) and gut distress from legumes, nuts , etc. Both carnivore and carnivore-leaning keto diets have worked wonderfully for me.

@lisamartin1546 7 месяцев назад

Excellent interview. I love Dr. Ovadia.

@honeytherat2017 2 месяца назад

Great work Dr Ovadia

@mrt2124 2 месяца назад

Been whole foods plant based 8 years lost fat gained muscle.. the real debate should be processed vs unprocessed.. maybe both plant based and carnivore help without processed foods!

@inthevortex-de1rh 3 месяца назад

I was vegan for 2 years. That was the worse part of my life. I felt miserable and i had to stop that nonsense because of developing s bunch of symptoms of malnutrition! Fruits spike my blood sugar! Thank God I measure my blood sugar so i know exactly what fruits do to my body

@nevinkuser9892 2 месяца назад

I've cut out all sugars for 90 days. I thought I'd experiment eating oranges and guava last week and guess what happened? I got huge nasty blisters on my head and arm. Who says everyone should eat fruit when some of us have such horrible reactions to it.

@marianne1959 2 месяца назад

Same here!

@t.s.3669 Месяц назад

Also, good to keep in mind, unfortunatelly, fructose is not shown in blood sugar testing.

@dorsetboronia6744 Месяц назад

Does dr Kahn really believe that fruit does not spike blood sugar.? As type 2 D I cannot even eat a small apple. I NEVER eat any fruit.

@earthpart3 27 дней назад

Anecdotal lies... is that all you clowns have

@vickybrame7307 2 месяца назад

god bless Dr. Ovadia. I'm praying he's right. This feels like my last chance to heal.

@ap1984md 7 месяцев назад

This was a good discussion! I liked hearing the common threads and varying points across both dietary camps!

@southernjoes8372 7 месяцев назад

Another excellent show. The final nail in the coffin for me was the Doc that used the Ansel Keys study as being good science. It once again showed that the Vegan Docs are making decisions based on political views not scientific views.

@tresero2862 7 месяцев назад

You must love to hear good news about your bad habits. You have NO idea about the Ansel Keys study. Yes, I said it. You have no idea.

@LowCarbLowDrama 7 месяцев назад

They turn from well-meaning vegans to aggressive veganasties not long after they go through a host of nutrient deficiencies with their diet of choice. Science shows that low cholesterol levels are not only strongly linked with higher all-cause mortality but also linked with higher levels of aggression. Search PUBMED.

@Elijah8890 7 месяцев назад

⁠⁠@@tresero2862you obviously have no idea yes I really said this

@Systemlord30 7 месяцев назад

Humans have been exclusively eating red meat for a millennia, and you can see it in our biology and biology doesn’t lie. The Seventh-Day Adventist Church is pushing their agenda through various agencies, and organizations. The optimal original human diet isn’t a religion.

@dountoothers 6 месяцев назад

We have randomized mendelian studies that show the same thing. What is your critique of those?

@yvonnemurray1253 2 месяца назад

My family members are overweight vegans and hungry all the time

@kimberlyhall9303 7 дней назад

Are they whole food plant based vegans or processed food vegans?

@celiaaquino1416 3 дня назад

😂😂😂😂

@m.c.andreescu8695 7 месяцев назад

I just want to add that I think patients ought to be asking their doctor to help them identify whether there is plaque, whether its growing, staying the same or reducing, and what is causing it. We have to push for help with this and not just accept the one size fits approach. I really respect both of these doctors for being willing to look at their patients as individuals and also listening to what their patients are saying they need and can do. That partnership is what medicine OUGHT to be.

@stellasternchen 6 месяцев назад

Medicine should be always individual. But there are certain things that are not debatable. We can not change the biochemistry or the physiology or patophysiology. If we are saying having high LDL-C puts you at risk for heart disease and we should try to lower it it is not an opinion. It is based on decades of research, hard outcome data and genetic studies. The biggest cause of your high LDL-C is genetics, not diet. Diet and exercise are just a way to treat it without medication. Sometimes it is not enough. We can debate how you want to lower it, make an individual concept how it fits best. What we can not debate is that having chronically elevated LDL-C is unhealthy. What we can debate though if it is worth the risk for you personally.

@rochellefreeland4338 2 месяца назад

If you ask most cardiologist for a CT calcium score they flat out refuse it. You know you have a good cardiologist if they agree to give you one. Insurance will not cover it unless it is medically necessary . My cardio did order it for me and my insurance denied it. He also gave me a cheaper place to go if my insurance didn’t cover it. Unfortunately doctors have to play the game if they want to keep their license.

@wowwowwow185 6 месяцев назад

Also stress plays a massive part in this too

@kithigginson4649 7 месяцев назад

Great interview. Keep up the good work!

@lauralynngraveshnc8986 Месяц назад

Canola / vegetable / seed oils ARE HIGHLY PROCESSED 🤨 How can a doctor say processed foods are bad, but highly processed seed oils are good?

@robverro566 2 месяца назад

Lauren, kudos to you for asking all the right questions.

@Jim-hw6zd 2 месяца назад

I was a vegetarian for a year and didn’t lose a pound. Carnivore diet, lost 50 pounds in 4 months. You do the math.

@jellybeanvinkler4878 2 месяца назад

I was vegetarian for years and gained 50 pounds. I also developed so many issues, it is taking me years to fix, not to mention permanent damage. I am not carnivore, but I an certainly careful of what plantfood I consume. Especially in this day and age of modern farming. 😢

@AgrippaMaxentius 22 дня назад

I’ve been whole foods plant based for a month and a half and have lost 14 lbs. Everyone is different.

@Mhel2023 20 дней назад

@@AgrippaMaxentiusI've been carnivore for a month and lost weight, my stomach isn't bloated, a swollen fat mass right above my belly button that used to hurt is significantly reduced, hot flashes down, finally feel satiated. I truly believe people should do what works for them as you and I are doing, as there is room to explore all kinds of ways of eating 🥩 🥦 🥚 🥕 🧀

@AgrippaMaxentius 20 дней назад

@@Mhel2023 I whole heartedly agree (see what I did there)

@dorisvoo9743 2 месяца назад

Did he say Tufts? The one that recommended cheerios over eggs?

@sheilacollins9384 2 месяца назад

No I think they recomended Lucky Charms over eggs.

@dorisvoo9743 2 месяца назад

@sheilacollins9384 aaahh I mustve been harvard I was thinking of

@bob20205 6 месяцев назад

Bravo....Rare to see a good discussion between 2 different sides/perspectives. Love it

@greyhnd001 6 дней назад

Whole food plant diet rocks. I'm 53 and have a resting heart rate of 46 beets a minute. I have been on a whole food plant diet for 11 years and weigh only 165 lbs

@kennethyuman1940 3 месяца назад

Great discussion and outstanding moderating, Lauren. Really appreciate you bringing us both sides at such high quality presentation.

@dombarton2483 5 месяцев назад

Anyone doing vegan initially is always better than a SAD, for a while. Anything that does not activate the Randle cycle will see a benefit. This is the same for a carnivore diet. Ultimately though, the carnivore diet is complete, and a vegan diet is not. Irrefutable

@jgfergus 2 месяца назад

Exactly my experience. My health improved when I went vegetarian and I felt good for the first 5 years or so. But it didn't last. I developed many symptoms of malnutrition and toxicity from plant toxins. A carnivore diet reversed and healed all of them.

@cathiemcginnis3997 2 месяца назад

@@jgfergussame with my DIL who was vegan for 5 years which time she started having health issues. She is now carnivore and all health issues are gone!

@rochellefreeland4338 2 месяца назад

Carnivore is more complete, but not complete. You do need to supplement with magnesium, sodium and potassium depending on your diet.

@dombarton2483 2 месяца назад

@@rochellefreeland4338 I dont and my blood tests have never shown any deficiency. Remember when on a carnivore diet you require less than and that goes for vit c as well

@marianne1959 2 месяца назад

@@rochellefreeland4338 Not necessarily ..... certainly depends on the individual.

@teknatruth Месяц назад

Lauren at the end mentioned the "search for Truth"! This is what everyone should be pursuing.

@dougc.3351 Месяц назад

I had calcium score of 1600. All within the epetherium lining. My choloresterol is 260. Hdl 146 Ldl 114 . Triglycerides were 60. Ive done 2 stress tests, with contrast die. My HR went from 70 to 170 during the test. Recovery time was excellent per doctor.... Any Recommendations?

@BaroqueViolin 7 месяцев назад

Great format.Thanks so much!

@Malcolm-Achtman 7 месяцев назад

The Tuft's guy, (mentioned at 38:50 in this video), with the name I cannot pronounce, who is supposedly "one of the top 5 nutritionists in the country," is the guy who tells us that Cheerios are way healthier than eggs and meat. Well, I guess it must be true then. Yeah, right.

@Sail218 2 месяца назад

Adding Dr Nadir to the debate would be interesting. He knows the fallacy that is the research.

@RamsBereit 4 дня назад

The best thing about carnivore diet is that shopping is a breeze and has zero wastage of food in the fridge. ❤

@Elijah8890 7 месяцев назад

Great interview thank you guys your amazing!

@marciabutler987 Месяц назад

Dr. kahn is a mouth breather.

@suziewilliams1360 12 дней назад

😂

@JM-er2yl 2 месяца назад

Dr. Kahn's arrogance is apparent, including looking down his nose to us as he states seed oils are healthy.

@DobyDuke 7 дней назад

Funded by big pharmaceutical, government and or big food corporations

@ligaman1 7 месяцев назад

Awesome content as always - really enjoyed this one 🧐

@KBHeal 28 дней назад

You know what's funny?? They're both right - there is more and more research done on different blood types and thebest diet for each, so reality is each person needs to find the diet they FEEL best with 🙏🙏✨️✨️❤️❤️

@stevemendez3535 Месяц назад

As I am not a doctor. But I would say it’s how the food is being farmed and how the food is being fed. For example, how beef eats a lot of food that has chemicals and how our vegetables are sprayed with a lot of chemicals I would say that needs to be looked into more than just the amount of cholesterol Because a lot of these chemicals that are used in feed are pretty harmful and a lot of chemicals that are used on plants as well are very harmful and no matter what anybody wants to say prior to being harvest that they have to be detox for 30 days that stuff is still in the body of the animal and the body of the plant.

@balboa55577 3 месяца назад

I have a score of 0 on my CAC score too and eat meat almost every day!

@cathiemcginnis3997 2 месяца назад

Did your LDL go up as mine did? All my markers are good except LDL. Not that I worry about it!

@demonized3299 Месяц назад

@@cathiemcginnis3997 Even Shawn Baker said you should be aware of this number and if you can fix it you should try. Some people are hyper responders to cholesterol and it goes up. It happened to me and I got it in check when I went to keto adding in some fiber from veggies which I had no problem digesting and also not over consuming fat in my diet. I was prediabetic and even onc arnivore I could not get my blood sugar down and I learned from Mariah Emmerich that I needed to not overdo fat and then everything got good. Good luck to you!

@oilreg434 13 дней назад

thx Dr. Kahn for having the courage to discuss this

@carolinemarie44 3 месяца назад

Thank you Dr. O for doing this!

@tomzygmunt6891 4 месяца назад

Great debate. You have quality guests and I always learn something. At the moment I eat higher amounts of animal based protein than I have in decades and I am stronger and heal much better because of it.

@laurenknighthughes 4 месяца назад

thanks for this feedback, Tom! Appreciate you and so good to hear. Keep it going my friend

@user-cw8zy9gt2u 2 месяца назад

My husband cured his generic hart disease on carnivore diet plus type 2 diabetes only in 3 months

@lazur1 Месяц назад

What's a generic hart disease?

@kennethyuman1940 3 месяца назад

A minor correction to Dr Ovadia at 24:56. The entry criteria for the #LMHRstudy are: LDL-C ≥ 200 mg/dL, HDL-C ≥ 80 mg/dL, TG ≤ 70 mg/dL

@michaelbare5380 29 дней назад

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