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One thing I think people don't talk about enough is RANDOM secrets. Like secrets are great when you can think about what you're opponent has and how they've built their deck, but if it's an entirely random secret you just have to bang your head against the wall in hopes it doesn't screw you over
Idk I think its excatly the opposite. I think its soo bad for the card game that you have to know the decks in order to play against them. Like whats the point of a secret if you know: Ok its iceblock or objection. Like, thats not a secret
I get more upset at repeating denying effects: when Secret Mage was good in Wild, the worst part was trying to play against Objection, Counterspell and Flame Ward in the same turn.
I think the real problem is that random secrets is the most fun when not including the op constructed deck secrets, because then they qre secret without 4 iceblocks a game
@@skrill9765 I agree with you to an extent, but I think it's important to note that, since Secrets trigger on the opponent's turn, they're intended to enable counter-play. In fact, they're the only mechanic that does so explicitly in the game, and I'd argue the basic point of them is to test the skill and game knowledge of the players: thus, even if they don't know exactly what Secret is in play, they can still make educated guesses and use adaptable tactics to avoid the worst damages to themselves. And that's where it gets problematic: with the sheer amount of Secrets, and the lowered restrictions on who can get what via cards like Hanar (who's comparable to the Trapped Room from Dungeon Run in terms of obnoxious mechanics, except at least that one was PVE so you could theoretically establish possible strategies), it stops being about skillfully playing around anything, since pretty much _everything_ is on the table - including stuff you can't really do anything about like Competitive Spirit or Perjury, and stuff that outright punishes you no matter what you do, like Rigged Faire Game + Explosive Trap. It's the same issue as Discover, ultimately: it was originally supposed to be somewhat skill-testing, since the Discovers got stuff from limited pools with lower amounts of cards, but as stuff was added and the pools got larger or more random (like "Discover X from other classes"), it's become just pray your opponent didn't get anything good.
Rarran: Do you feel good about this? Roffle: Not really, no... I feel great about this. Roffle has the best banter, hands down. More of this duo, please!
They said TGT and rumble. GVG was pretty good, but now mediocre since its older and less powerful. TGT was weak when it came out AND it's just as old as GVG.
Rarran: Rastakhan's Rumble is a BAD set Me: The rastakhan's meta was really fun and despite its low power, introduced cards that gave fighting chances to underpowered decks in a high power genn-baku format and was ripe for experimentation. Roffle: Rastakhan's Rumble is a BAD set Me: Yeah
Hey rarran there is a secret mode if you got to miscellaneous-> credits on the main screen. In the bottom left of the black you can click to start up a gamemode. I am not sure what the gamemode does but it might be fun to check it out. It seems like one of the puzzle modes. The gamemode is specifically in bottom left corner of the 2022 credits, spam click somewhere around there and a game will start up. It puts you against Faelin with zero cards in your deck and prompts you to pick from two different cards (that often are off in some way) many many different times in a row, sometimes it’s the normal discover, sometimes it’s a different thing like a dredge but it’s always two cards. After picking many cards in a row depending on your answers a cannon will fire cannonballs at ambassador faelin who has 50 health. I picked randomly twice and only managed to deal 26 damage but he heals in between every attempt so if you can’t do all 50 of his health in one go he resets
Hey Rarran you smexy beast, I really enjoy your content where you limit the number of expansions to make a deck. Leads to fun metas that we never had in Standard or wild. My request: Do a draft video similar to the one you did recently but create some fun new combinations of expansion to choose cards from. And dont leave us with just 3 decks, fuck it make it 4 or 5 decks and do a Best of 9 or something like that. Ive been edging for 2 months and 7 days and such a video would bring me that sweet sweet release ive been craving for so long. ~Love, Chris
I've played Yogg-Saron, Master of Fate so many times I've just gotten too good at spinning wheels. Rarran should really practice that skill before we attempt this again...
The randomness is hard to equalize. I like the basic idea of the challenge, but one too strong expansion may just decide the outcome. Maybe it'd be better, if you pick three random expansions both of you get as a card pool. And all your decks must have 10 card per set. So you are forced to make use of all the cards, which came with every expansion and just can't make a deck with 20 Nathria cards for instance.
How about this for a format if you want to do limited expansion pool - you spin to generate a list of sets (maybe 9 or 10), then take turns removing sets from the list until you have 3 or 4 and you both use the same pool.
Love this! Next time just make 3 seperate wheels(Best Average and Worst) and spin each once per person. That way you each get a more balanced random 3.
This would have been smarter if the, first roll 3 years, and then each roll different expansions from those 3 years so they get approximately the same power level, but it became a great video either way, roffles deck building is just entertaining on its own in scenarios like those, because he creates cool decks that also work well.
idea can be 2 sets (and maybe add a set to be "core" maybe classic but only class cards from it) for each deck so say u can make X many decks where u pick the 2 sets no repeat and try and make the strongest u can get for has many decks u can (and try and fit rumble into 1 of them)
It might be just me, but Roffle felt a little quiet compared to you, the volume could be more on a similar level. Despite that, great video and had a great time watching it!