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@Rarran 2 года назад

Tried a different style of editing for this type of video, would really appreciate your thoughts on it! Hope you enjoyed! Check out: ru-vid.com he edited the video :)

@pvcure1365 2 года назад

You should try out magic at a game store, maybe attend a prerelease? We’re all (mostly) newb friendly :)

@aofukai9978 2 года назад

ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. Hoping more would come out soon!

@FrostyLich 2 года назад

editing worked really well

@apricot8301 2 года назад

Seemed like a slower video but it was very appropriate because there was a lot of information we needed to know. I liked it 👍

@myhr2320 2 года назад

I think this editing was better, in other videos, things were chaining a bit too fast, giving the impression that sentences were interrupted. Here, there is more breathing room, I like it better, less frantic.

@Pseudoscorpion14 2 года назад

PVDDR: "This is analyze the card, not analyze me!" Also PVDDR: Shows Rarran Elite Spellbinder

@piyh3962 2 года назад

What a flex by pvddr

@jorgeherreralazo6228 2 года назад

pvddr is the best! :D

@thomgizziz Год назад

Which he says is a good card and sees play in older formats which his definition of sees play means it was played by one person that didn't know what they were doing.

@jacklamond3679 Год назад

Bro's like 'Word you wanna analyze me? Peep this'

@12ARedSon 2 года назад

Honestly, PVDR coaching Rarran through Magic would be a banger series.

@coolman17701 2 года назад

100%

@RCTricking 2 года назад

Getting coaches by the GOAT 👍🏻

@BoneheadPodcast 2 года назад

200%

@City-wj3qv 2 года назад

@@RCTricking pvdr is one of the best ngl. But is he realy the goat? For me a player who plays since the mid 90s, hes not. LSV, Budde or Finkel would be my picks for that slot :D

@EyeE102 2 года назад

@@City-wj3qv Great choices and I've been playing since then as well. That said, I've got Finkel #1 but PVDDR #2 :)

@jmaxmage 2 года назад

"This is like ramp in Magic." Magic facts! The term "ramp" was a shortening of the card Rampant Growth, originally printed in 1996 with Mirage, the first of the three set blocks!

@Umezete 2 года назад

@National Socialism Mirage aged okay but no amount of aging is every going to make homelands not suck. Although it finally has ONE "playable" card in it!

@vecvecvec 2 года назад

@@Umezete which one? im curious

@feeltheslipstream 2 года назад

That doesn't sound right. I feel like I've used ramp before mirage. But memory is a funny thing.

@SephieRothe 2 года назад

@National Socialism Back when I played it, it was decently good. Like Mirage block had vampiric, buried alive, necromancy, shallow grave, natural order. TBF I only started in Ice age, so at the time my viewpoint was not necessarily the best. Mirage Block was also pushed me into playing a lot of black, and into loving reanimator (as you could probably tell from my examples). Tempest didn't lessen that with my first two packs including reanimate and living death.

@SephieRothe 2 года назад

@National Socialism I'm not saying Ice age wasn't fun. It was my introduction to MTG and it did hook me.

@Cadian9t 2 года назад

Crazy to hear Rarran immediately start thinking about traumatise target himself to try fuel graveyard stuff, he’ll go far

@EyesOnlyFreedomVid 2 года назад

Hearing that take made me reconsider Traumatize

@truekurayami 2 года назад

@@EyesOnlyFreedomVid Black Blue Dredge can make Traumatize absolutely broken if you don't nuke your mana in the process.

@Toksyuryel 2 года назад

@@EyesOnlyFreedomVid It's just too expensive

@carterpashko8002 2 года назад

i run it in a UB recursion edh deck. Everyone instantly targets me after i do this.

@maggoteater2290 2 года назад

@@carterpashko8002 yeah but commander is different you have a ton of mana bricks and ramp usually

@amberlee4536 2 года назад

I have no idea how Paulo kept such a straight face while waiting for Rarran to figure out his face was on that card 🤣

@advilnight1441 2 года назад

Gotta love how PVDDR puts time warp as a card without realizing there is an actual card called time warp in HS with the same mana cost!

@dewdodu 2 года назад

It is most likely a direct reference too.

@d-moon4982 2 года назад

@@dewdodu i have been told that mtg refrences other games and media in their cards

@firedrake110 2 года назад

@@d-moon4982 The card in question, Time Warp, was originally printed in 1997, so I'm gonna say it was a Hearthstone team reference here lol

@d-moon4982 2 года назад

@@firedrake110 oooooh, my bad. I don't know much about magic so thanks for letting me know :)

@dewdodu 2 года назад

@@d-moon4982 One of the Naga in BG battlecry is "Hatred outlives the hateful" and a pack filler says "form of the dragon" and is a minion that becomes a 5/5 after one round. There are a ton of references and direct references. Time warp being 5 can be assumed to be a flavored reference but despite the extra step is easier and more powerful to get than in MTG. If it was at 2 mana I would not be surprised if it was called time walk but at 5 its already a strong win condition.

@Kish_x2 2 года назад

Watching people evaluate brainstorm is so funny, it’s such a simple card you’d never guess just how impactful it is in the game

@amorgan310 2 года назад

My manamorphose stonks were so accurate I got so many of that fuxking card for free.

@birdz3676 2 года назад

i don't see how it is overpowered I see it more as a draw back than anything

@gabeskai 2 года назад

@@birdz3676 manamorphose or brainstorm?

@birdz3676 2 года назад

@@gabeskai Brainstorm every time i have tired it all most always is a draw back for me

@coyraig8332 2 года назад

You might if you play yugioh. One of the earliest banned cards (Graceful Charity) is just "draw 3, then discard 2" and Brainstorm is like a version you can use on your opponent's turn. Granted it's hard to compare graveyard use in yugioh to top-of-deck use in magic, but you still go 3 cards deeper.

@lukebartlett97 2 года назад

Would love to see another episode of this, where PVDDR shows you a colour cycle of cards (5 linked cards, one in each colour) and you try to put them in power order best -> worst. Could be really funny to see from an outside perspective :)

@Fyrefrye 2 года назад

And cap the video off by showing him and discussing the "1 drop instant -> does 3 of something" cycle from alpha (one or two might have been in the following sets, but I think they were all alpha). Lighting bolt, giant growth, ancestral recall, dark ritual, and healing salve. A cycle that covers everything from power nine, format staples across the game, and one of the worst cards ever printed.

@someguy99 2 года назад

@@Fyrefrye That's called the Boon cycle.

@Fyrefrye 2 года назад

@@someguy99 I can never remember the name. None of the cards have that name anywhere on them or in their flavor text, so it always just seemed arbitrary.

@adamn7777 2 года назад

I used to play a lot of Magic and I can say with confidence that he actually went pretty easy on you with regards to which cards and mechanics he picked to show you. I was hoping he'd pick the card in the thumbnail.

@xolotltolox7626 2 года назад

llanowar Elves still to me seems like it should be pronounced "ɬanowar elves"

@JudeofAwesometon 2 года назад

Agreed he had the training gloves on.

@alexandersnider734 2 года назад

@@xolotltolox7626 this is peak Polish

@xolotltolox7626 2 года назад

@@alexandersnider734 I was going off of welsh, but ok

@PhileasLiebmann 2 года назад

Yeah, I'm hoping for a part 2 to this.

@TheKilskast 2 года назад

I gotta say, as a former hearthstone player and current MTG player, I have loved watching the evolution of your channel. You continue to surprise me with the amount of crossovers with other creators, and the overall quality of the videos you make are fantastic. Welcoming to those who don't play hearthstone but also fun for those enfranchised in the game. Keep up the great work man!

@Rarran 2 года назад

I think I finally achieved my goal of bringing card game players together rather than being angry at each other. I hope I can keep improving as we grow together!

@TheKilskast 2 года назад

@@Rarran your videos have helped me relive the good days I had playing this game, which is a great thing. Hearthstone isn't really my cup of tea anymore, but i for sure have a different perspective on the game than "stupid no skill rng fiesta". Appreciate you homie

@GjemliKallinn 2 года назад

@@Rarran do yugioh next

@alecruden6912 2 года назад

@@Rarran totally agree with this as a player of both myself…btw, just as a fun fact…ultimate infestation is a homage to cruel ultimatum. Except it doesn’t have the multicolor restriction and was put in the “green” deck of magic that ramps so it was broken lol

@cptbamboo2217 2 года назад

@@Rarran same :D

@88Vrus88 2 года назад

When you said Brainstorm is not Metabreaking you can see that PVDDR really holds off his laugh.

@Arrzarrina 2 года назад

It's a card you really need the context for though so we can't judge Rarran too harshly for not getting it. I'll be honest though, I also giggled.

@CaymanGiordano 2 года назад

I mean, if I didn't know the expansion symbols or which cards are allowed/banned in which formats, I'd just look at Brainstorm and go "just seems like a worse Ancestral Recall."

@Arrzarrina 2 года назад

@@CaymanGiordano Well, it is a worse ancestral recall, but since ancestral recall is the second most broken card ever created in MTG, every other draw spell is a worse ancestral recall.

@ich3730 Год назад

@@Arrzarrina thats not the point tho. Brainstorm is a pretty bad cantrip, what makes it broken are fetchlands.

@Arrzarrina Год назад

@@ich3730 Brainstorm is a good cantrip in a vacuum (The thing that pushes it over the edge for me is that it's instant speed). However, no card is played in a vacuum. Very few, if any, cards have ever seen play because they are so strong that they don't need supporting synergies throughout the rest of the deck. Even a card as strong as Tarmogoyf during the height of its power was strong because of the synergy present in the deck (you needed to put very little effort into making your deck synergize with goyf, but it still needed support). So what I said stands. It's a card you need the context for to understand why it's so good, but it remains an excellent card.

@HeavenStudiosOfficial 2 года назад

His evaluation of Llanowar Elves without knowing what summoning sickness is or the fact that you can only play a land per turn is not bad.

@samuelham4520 2 года назад

Honestly, I would have loved to see what Rarran thought of Oko, Thief of Crowns.

@danzo9528 2 года назад

This Name is forbidden to be spelled!

@jasperbaas450 2 года назад

I think it is very smart that he didn't add any planes walkers. They were really hard to rate when they first came out and still surprise us to this day. Would almost be unfair.

@Frommerman 2 года назад

I was hoping he had him evaluate Chains of Mephistopheles.

@samuelham4520 2 года назад

@@Frommerman Too easy

@alexandersnider734 2 года назад

Oko had us all fooled. Motherfucker came out of nowhere and snapped the meta in half, and we never saw it coming.

@recusantvessel 2 года назад

I think the most interesting thing with valuing magic cards is the fact that MTG is so ludicrously versatile. It’s hard to guess how good a card is in a vacuum due to the multitude of mechanics that you can both add and have on a card. I.e, trample, x-landwalk, unblockable, flying. That’s why I love magic so much, some cards have little value on their own but combined with specific cards they’re broken.

@gregorystiver7198 2 года назад

Or how cards can go from worthless to priceless if something that synergizes with it is printed, like how sword of the meek was unplayable garbage until thopter foundry was printed

@amberlee4536 2 года назад

Yeah that's one of the things in Magic that I miss when playing Hearthstone. Whether or not the cost is worthwhile for the effect is pretty linear in Hearthstone.... apart from Druid decks with Guff in them

@recusantvessel 2 года назад

@Richard Sejour I’ll blame standard for that one. Been playing since OG Innistrad and it wasn’t always like this, which is sad. They never used to have to ban 30 fucking cards per rotation, and honestly the power level was ludicrously stupid back in Innistrad-Ravnica lol Difference being everything was even in power level as opposed to this parity where some cards were just far and away too broken not to be run in decks. As for extended formats, MH2 absolutely FUCKED everything up. The parity is so absurdly wide across the board that this balancing philosophy of old for cards is completely out the window lol

@nalsium2828 2 года назад

Dumpster diving through old sets in search of stupid combos is one of my fondest memories. Almost any interesting-looking card can be made to fit in a somewhat unique deck, the only question is whether it will work efficiently enough to be viable. And while 99% of the time the answer is no, it's still so much fun to try.

@gutsbadguy50 2 года назад

Yep, thats why this video is a little unfair in my opinion. Deaths shadow is a terrible card without context, and eviscerate, despite being a weak card on its face, is actually pretty decent in draft. Even traumatize has situations where it is a good card!

@firefly5677 2 года назад

My favorite thing about MTG is even "bad" cards can be good if used with other cards, and there are SO many cards the possibilities are crazy. The most popular format, Commander aka EDH, is one of the best at taking "bad" cards and using them in new ways that make them good

@warpuppy4528 2 года назад

Indeed. One of my commanders is Varolz the Scar Striped which gives all creatures in my graveyard scavenge equal to their mana cost. I play Death's Shadow for 1 mana and it dies immediately, then I pay 1 more to scavenge. For 2 mana I give one of my creatures a permanent +13/+13.

@fasdaVT 2 года назад

When your the most complex game in history yeah only few cards can't become useful

@jude7620 2 года назад

Right? Like that one "traumatize" would work perfectly in a self mill deck

@fasdaVT 2 года назад

@@jude7620 if you are blue black zombie and you have a repeatable graveyard recursion like oversold cemetary that card is amazing

@loganshaw4527 2 года назад

Sees a flying,first strike, lifelink that has to be great.

@cenowador 2 года назад

On Traumatize I was like "wait, it's not bad, it's scary to receive one in the face", but after his explanation I remembered I play Commander, not Magic, and everything made sense

@johncameron1935 2 года назад

This made me laugh a lot.

@dabestgrimmreaper4 2 года назад

Under normal play or even alot of commander play by itself~ sure it's pretty bad, but once combo'd even normally it can be powerful and commander is more focused to combos. Now there is a way to make it the most broken part of a combo in game however which is copy it and recast it on them multiple times to deck wipe them then graveyard wipe with any of the hundreds of graveyard wipes you could have combined with a discard/destroy deck and it's game over lol

@cdleachxiii 2 года назад

@@dabestgrimmreaper4 or just combo with fraying sanity. Much cheaper than copying it a dozen times

@cdleachxiii 2 года назад

Even in normal 60 decks this is terrifying, he's underplaying just how badly this can screw someone out of their win cons even in regular games.

@laface2361 2 года назад

@@cdleachxiii true but in edh/commamder this card is a true staple for blue wincon decks and some graveyard shenanigan decks, in regular 60 its a bit more situational

@Anthony-nd6vk 2 года назад

This is kinda crazy to see. Just so the Hearhstone players know, PVDDR is a living Magic legend. I love this video because some Hearthstone players need to see just how difficult and crazy MTG can be. Hearthstone wouldn’t exist and lots lots of games wouldn’t exist, especially in their current form without the godfather game Magic. So, it’s really cool to see it get a shout out.

@IcaroMendonca 2 года назад

To be specific, PVDDR is the all-time leader in prize money won in MTG tournments, second place for most Pro Tour top 8 finishes, and a member of the MTG Hall of Fame.

@ghostaccountlmao 2 года назад

@@IcaroMendonca Also a World Champ

@theyux1 2 года назад

Most specifically he considered one of if not the best technical players. All pro's are strong technical players so its hard to get that particular nod.

@RCTricking 2 года назад

Paulo is solidly top 3 all time and the only one of those still dominating after 20 years 👍🏻

@qlcrane8019 2 года назад

@@IcaroMendonca PVDDR has won more matches out of judge disqualifying his opponents than from legit matches. He has deep friend connections within tournament helders so I wouldn't take his success without a little grain of salt

@GumshoeClassic 2 года назад

Honestly my favourite part about Magic is and will always be the flavor text. *"Wrath is no vice when inflicted upon the deserving."*

@gregorystiver7198 2 года назад

"Only in mirrors do heroes find their equals." "An empty canvas holds infinite possibilities" "I want a banana this big" Some timeless stuff in mtg flavor texts 😋

@pintpullinggeek 2 года назад

"Sorry I burned down your village. Here's some gold."

@TCZodiacK 2 года назад

"Hatred outlives the hateful"

@kobisjeruk 2 года назад

Ach Hans, run!!

@simonteesdale9752 2 года назад

Shout out to an old show with PVDDR and this classic: Gerrard: “But it doesn’t do anything!” Hanna: “No-it does nothing.”

@abecascade 2 года назад

Watched the previous video with PV because I play HS and Magic and loving this one too. When he does the opposite to you, I knew Elite Spellbinder was coming!! :D

@MTGHolic 2 года назад

Weee koko strimer

@WavemasterAshi 2 года назад

..."From a Hearthstone perspective, Llanowar Elves is basically Ramp Druid." Traumatize is basically a one-sided Void Contract...and Void Contract was terribad.

@sunnyhvar1992 2 года назад

Yeah, I was shocked that it reminded him of Tickatus and not void contract XD Maybe he forgot void contract even exists?

@masterxehanort3 2 года назад

It would be fun showing traumatise to a Yu-Gi-Oh player though. Because it is a better "that grass looks greener". And "that grass looks greener" was meta breaking.

@cteal2018 2 года назад

Traumatize is a win con in mill decks.

@nathansmith7833 2 года назад

@@cteal2018 i mean, not really? usually mill decks rely on some kind of repetitive milling like grindstone or the mill landfall crab. and even if you really like the traumatize effect, you should probably play Cut Your Losses from New Capenna instead.

@cteal2018 2 года назад

@@nathansmith7833 ?what traumatize with Bruvac as a commander basically reads "remove target player"

@the_dunks3770 2 года назад

The cards that were chosen for this really do an amazing job of explaining how something can look amazing but be terrible in context. Loved the card list.

@dragonstryk7280 2 года назад

I lost my mind at a local tournament. I got to final round, and drew my opening hand. It was thus: Two Forests Four Llanowar Elves Carnage Tyrant It took everything in me not to fully crack laughing. Turn 1: Forest, and Llanowar, pass T2: "I'm going to tap there green mana, and first, I am going to cast Llanowar Elves. Does it resolve? Great, then I cast Llanowar Elves. Does it resolve? Great, and finally I play Llanowar Elves. Does it resolve?" T3: "I cast Carnage Tyrant" Opp: "I'll counter-" "Carnage Tyrant can't be countered, and it's hexproof once it hits the board" Opp:.... *Scoop*

@hamishfox 2 года назад

Speaking of the london mulligan, it's probably the greatest rules change ever to happen in magic. It went a long long way to making games more interactive. I remember in the bad old days you'd mulligan to 5 and the game was basically already over. Now-a-days you still have a shot at playing the game.

@jesperhedenqvist922 8 месяцев назад

Explain, i've played magic since around 2010 and i dont know what you speak of?

@finesseandstyle 7 месяцев назад

@@jesperhedenqvist922 london mulligan: draw 7, put 2 on bottom of the deck. old mulligan: draw 5. You don't get to look at the cards or choose which ones to remove

@CuShorts 2 года назад

Paulo is such a great magic ambassador. Love him.

@JustSoggyBread 2 года назад

Okay what I like the most about this video is that PVDDR is like, actually a pro. A lot of the time, these sort of videos have some improper power assessment on the Magic side, and so I really appreciate that you've spent the time to ensure you got someone who could properly explain the power levels of the cards.

@nathansmith7833 2 года назад

not just 'a pro', but a slam-dunk Hall of Famer one of the five best players ever.

@benkentucky4380 2 года назад

New to the channel I clicked on the video not expecting too much, but your demeanor combined with the genuine analysis of these cards was a great watch. I've played both games and it was neat to see how you both exposed the parallels. Also, death's shadow was an impossible guess. That card's history is so long there is no exclusively true statement you can say about it. Yet your analysis was spot on, it's all about how early you can get into play - And what you can get from using all that life as an early resource.

@EDoyl 2 года назад

If someone asked me what the tap symbol meant my explanation would be WAY worse than "it's an ability you can activate in lieu of attacking or blocking". Such a concise explanation and doesn't require anything else about combat or tapping to be explained, perfect for someone unfamiliar. That's insightful.

@corey2232 2 года назад

The second I saw Death's Shadow, I immediately thought "that's not fair..." That card was bad for so long & takes quite a bit of effort to make good, even though I can still remember people trying stuff with it since release. Coupled with the fact that you just taught him vanilla creatures with large stats aren't great, it was like the perfect mix of confusion 😂

@matthewlugo2417 2 года назад

Death shadow is very trash

@MUDBREATHER 2 года назад

@@matthewlugo2417 Can you speak on that?

@matthewlugo2417 2 года назад

@@MUDBREATHER what u mean?

@Umezete 2 года назад

Death shadow is weird, it was actually probably good for quite some time before it really started seeing play. When the deck first emerged it really wasn't made from some new card, it's just someone figured out the formula to make it tick.

@holliwoodt2961 2 года назад

This card is average, come on! The card on it's own is trash and needs help to be good.

@HoodNinja29 2 года назад

I absolutely LOVE when brotherman PVDDR from my hometown appears in your videos man!! Even never playing MTG I can just feel the pride listening to him. Keep up the good work, cheers!

@dedfoker 2 года назад

PVDDR IS GOAT.

@otomustam7000 2 года назад

This was very entertaining to watch from a Magic player's view. I can tell Rarran is a great card player and very smart. He has good intuition! Good video!

@adamanonymous6885 2 года назад

I'm so impressed - you absolutely nail some of these cards - Realising on first sight that Death's Shadow is only good if you can cheat it into play blew me away

@joshuaivy9381 2 года назад

This is my favorite one so far. Watching you attempt to piece together the rules for Magic, which is one of the most in depth modern tcgs was hilarious.

@jkwi8024 2 года назад

heartstone is a cheap, simple plastic copy, magic is just good

@Danothyus1 2 года назад

its good to remember that many magic cards are format dependant to be completly evaluated. Most of the standard jank can be considered pretty good in a format like commander for example.

@m.r.r.2636 2 года назад

Yeah, it would have been a healthy disclaimer. Most of the cards seems to have been seen through the lens of Standard.

@brosam_ 2 года назад

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the Lord of Extinction, I feel like that card could definitely be better in a format like commander because more cards and more players would definitely mean more stuff in graveyards so it could possibly be crazy powerful

@m.r.r.2636 2 года назад

@@brosam_ It is fun to pair with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord who basically wipes the game with a resolved Lord of Extinction. But yes, it does require a slower format and synergy/combo material to work.

@corey2232 2 года назад

@@m.r.r.2636 *Seen through the lens of competitive constructed formats, not necessarily standard. Basically are they currently played or were they ever played as parts of competitive constructed decks in Vintage/Legacy/Modern/Standard.

@jonathankokol908 2 года назад

Yeah milling half of a deck seems meh but if u have an effect that says “when your opponent mills they mill twice the amount they would normally mill” then you win

@Wyrmshield 2 года назад

Not once in all my years of Magic have I thought about milling half my own deck in the late game to lower the chance of unneeded land draws. New players are fun like that

@Phyrre56 2 года назад

That's because it doesn't actually do that. It's a fallacy unless you're somehow stacking your deck with a bunch of unneeded lands on top. Barring that, you're equally likely to have more good cards in the top half of your library than in the bottom half. It is a net zero effect on your chances of drawing an unneeded card.

@SharinganMan 2 года назад

@@Phyrre56 Yeah but it's a shockingly common analysis new players have, about milling changing their draw odds.

@loganshaw4527 2 года назад

But imagine milling and geting those lands into play.

@jerodast 2 года назад

I was wondering if he was under a misconception that lands somehow weren't just randomly shuffled into the deck like the others. Like, he clearly understands deck based games enough I wouldn't expect the pure fallacy from him unless he was thinking there was some special thing about how lands work.

@SharinganMan 2 года назад

@@jerodast Hearthstone players don't really encounter any milling and don't need to have ever thought about how it affects your draws. I really do think it's just the basic fallacy.

@eunomiac 2 года назад

This was one of the most fascinating Magic videos I've seen in a long, long time! You should really consider making some sort of repeat feature out of this, maybe with new set releases (rotating out the guests as they learn too much about Magic, of course) --- I was enthralled from start to finish :D

@Dr_Geek 2 года назад

Another thing about the Time Warp: The very first version of it said: "Target player loses next turn." which could be misinterpreted into: Your opponent has lost.

@michaeld8705 2 года назад

I haven't played MTG at all but had a lot of fun with this video. New editing is looking Pog AF

@jkwi8024 2 года назад

its a bout 10 times better than heartstone

@isaacmg9213 2 года назад

Rarran, my boy, you have outdone yourself, i ve enjoyed your videos so much, every series brings something fun, informative and entertaining about this world of collectible card games!! as a former HS player and all time tcg game enjoyer i gotta say, congrats and thank u very much for all this amazing videos!!! PD. This series in particular is gotta be my fav... im currently and avid LoR player and have been playing MTG pretty much since im a little razcal so this crossovers are just :****** _chefs kiss_

@eeneranna9795 2 года назад

I really like the card choices, specifically Brainstorm because it shows how important synergy and efficiency is in the game because without shuffles BS is just that.

@tannermattingly4462 2 года назад

Actually Brainstorm is still pretty good even without lots of shuffles, and a lot of the reasons were even touched on by Rarran. It ended up getting banned from Historic just because it offers such a strong tempo advantage. You get to look at the top 3 cards of your deck, and choose the best possible play for next turn. Without any other synergies, that's pretty good. With synergies, it becomes the most powerful spell legal in Legacy.

@Umezete 2 года назад

@@tannermattingly4462 It's "fine" but it doesn't even make top 5 cantrips without the shuffle probably. With how easy shuffles are it's the best cantrip in the game and arguably the second best 1 mana blue spell (it's a short list fighting for #2)

@shanewong5092 2 года назад

I've never heard of you, but really enjoyed this! Without knowing context, I think you did a pretty good job thinking out the cards.

@KneadingHarbl 2 года назад

These types of video tingle my autism just right. I love seeing people analyze cards based on game fundamentals, seeing how they translate from one game to another, without knowing anything about metas and how current context made a card better or worse. Been binging all the videos you made like these, and I like them both ways (you guessing and a guest guessing). I would be fine even with repeat games, I'd love to see you bring Grapplr back for him to pick LoR cards for you to guess, for instance.

@SandmanCater 2 года назад

Its so cool you're getting PVDDR on your channel! Also like that you have managed to pull your channel back since the downfall of mercs :)

@harrislam 2 года назад

I like this. Without any Magic knowledge, I would say you did really well in guessing the core ideas of the game. Magic is a big world. You might find fun in digging deeper in this kind of fun formats.

@ssstierghoul 2 года назад

Loved the video! Looking forward for "try to guess" with yugioh cards! edit: i do remember that rarran have video with yugioh cards, but he was alone and that's no fun :)

@kurasol7908 2 года назад

Now that I’ve gotten into Legends of Runeterra (thanks to this series) I think I’d like to see more Runeterra videos since the last one was a while ago and a new update recently was released for LoR

@Rarran 2 года назад

tomorrow :)

@oscarp2074 2 года назад

I also got into runeterra from this channel and I'm super happy with the game! Economy is great and it's very fun👍

@VernulaUtUmbra 2 года назад

@@Rarran Well, seeing that from 23 hours ago is most fortuitous.

@anthonyrodriguez9232 2 года назад

Love seeing these types of videos, as a magic and yugioh player myself it really cool seeing people from outside looking in. Even though it would be to hard due to how complicated yugioh is id love to see some looks at those as well :P

@jakesnow2988 2 года назад

Stumbled on this video and absolutely love it. Played hearthstone on and off for years but I’ve been a dedicated magic player for about 13 years. Would love to see more like this!!!

@MrSaltycrackers 2 года назад

These card guessing videos are so fun to watch

@nickniehaus1763 2 года назад

PVDDR: explains the basics of lands (pun intended) This guy: “oh god” Me: you haven’t the slightest idea

@arkenexus_ 2 года назад

This channel has improved so much from vods with an intro to fully fleshed, proper videos. Impressive, and keep up the good work

@jaysonkelly4830 2 года назад

This was intensely entertaining as a player of both games. Please do more like this!

@recusantvessel 2 года назад

Rarran just miss ONCE BRO As a player of both MTG and Hearthstone, this is the content that hits both sweet spots Keep up the fantastic work!

@thomgizziz Год назад

He did. His card is pretty terrible and doesn't see any play in older formats unless you are talking about casuals that play at home.

@PharaohofAtlantis 2 года назад

Elite Spellbinder was a real heads up pick by PV. I love it.

@stormmaster108 2 года назад

When RU-vid suggested this video to me, I hovered the cursor over the thumbnail (two guys shown there) and was like "Wait, that is PVDDR, are they trying to present him as a player from another game who is trying to guess something about MTG cards"? Nice video, it was fun to watch. I am impressed with how much Rarran (I suppose the HS player in this video is the author of this channel, correct me if I am wrong) actually guessed, based solely on his knowledge of a different game. And now I see that there is a video with PVDDR also trying to value HS cards, going to watch that one too.

@MrCaptainJack2 2 года назад

Incredible content my friend! I am a long time magic player who knows only the basics about hearthstone, so watching you try to guess the power level of a magic card is so much more interesting than the opposite scenario, but I watched both of your videos with PVDDR (an absolute legend by the way). They were so so fun! Definitely earned a sub, a like and a long comment, and I’m really hoping for more videos like this in the future!

@AStandsForFrench 2 года назад

This was a fun as hell video and super entertaining and informative, I would love a series like this.

@waffles_dd 2 года назад

As a commander player, it is interesting to watch the opinion of a standard player. Because of how commander plays I would disagree with most of his conclusions on how good cards are.

@jamesgratz4771 2 года назад

Wym

@waffles_dd 2 года назад

@@jamesgratz4771 like traumatize for instance. He said it was a bad card because of it's cost since standard is so fast paced. I think it is good because commander has a slower pace with big payoffs usually. I could see it being paired with muldrotha the gravetide to gain huge value. I just find the differences in the two playstyles fascinating

@jamesgratz4771 2 года назад

@@waffles_dd commander is a fast mana format bRo. Anything over 4 mana is garbage unplayable. Watch the content broooo

@waffles_dd 2 года назад

@@jamesgratz4771 A difference in playstyle between competitive and not I suppose. I play in a circle that goes for fun and interesting combos along with tactful unique plays. Also... I know of alot of cards above 4 mana that are useful in commander

@waffles_dd 2 года назад

@@jamesgratz4771 I'm also new to this channel and it's content is not what I go by to dictate my playstyle. Thank you for your insightful perspective though!

@GeekandGlory 2 года назад

Totally didn't know elite spellbinder art was featured an actual person! That is amazing! I love these sort of videos. As a magic player and an old time Yu-Gi-Oh player I love seeing other people who play other card games rate MTG cards. Great job!

@KaeroMTG 2 года назад

Great video. When I saw the *no spoilers* last card it instantly made me smile. PVDDR did a great job picking a variety of cards, and part of the fun when a new set comes out is analyzing cards and trying to find the best ones. Great video. Never played Hearthstone but if I ever do, I’ll come back to the channel. It’s clear the Hearthstone player knew what was going on.

@garrettord3304 2 года назад

There aren't a whole lot of more "intense" cards than Elite Spellbinder for an outsider looking in. There's a lot to misunderstand. For example, one might assume that the exiled card returns to target opponent's hand when Elite Spellbinder leaves play - not the case. Likewise, you might assume that your opponent can no longer cast the exiled card when Elite Spellbinder leaves play - also not the case. They remain exiled and playable regardless of what happens to Elite spellbinder. If Elite Spellbinder's effect is "enters the battlefield" rather than "when you play", meaning it triggers again whenever the card bounces in and out of play. However, you can't target the same cards again because despite the fact that your opponent can still play them, because those cards are exiled rather than in-hand. When evaluating its playability, most people overlook the "nonland" clause, which can often cause the ability to whiff entirely when your opponent has a hand full of lands or instant-speed spells they can get rid of before revealing their hand. The card has a LOT of interactions to unpack

@mistymysticsailboat 2 года назад

I get the feeling he just wanted to show it off because it was his championship card, and honestly, that's fair enough.

@nomenklatura91 2 года назад

dude, you should definitely make a video rating gwent cards with misterhabbla1 that would be so sick to watch, that guy is literally a hidden gem of a player

@nevanV12 2 года назад

This was recomended by the YT algorithm gods. Will be checking your content, I have played a ton of card games from Pokémon, YGO, MTG, Hearthstone, LoR, Gwent and some others. I love it when people check other card games for the first time.

@nevanV12 2 года назад

Following up on this. While constructed is the most used format, the power level of some cards differ on what format they are used. Traumatize and Lord of extinction while not that good in constructed, they are good in draft/limited.

@CrayonShed 2 года назад

Absolutely loving this series with PVDDR! I desperately hope this can be an ongoing thing!

@Grautfyrsten 2 года назад

19:00 "play it on 5 or earlier depending on how many lands you draw" It seems like you forgot to mention you can only play one land a turn (unless you ramp with other cards)

@paulm2163 2 года назад

Love how Rarran missed that when contemplating a 5-mana spell called Time Warp that allows you to take an extra turn that he compares it to a card in Hearthstone that is a 5-cost spell that allows you to take an extra turn after this one called ....Time Warp :) As someone who plays both I understand quest mage is different as you have to complete the quest first but I always thought it was funny that the actual quest reward is essentially exactly the same as the Magic version.

@BB-pn2qv 2 года назад

Loved this, hope you gave Magic a try. PVDR is pretty much a god, amazing to get an intro from someone like that!

@kobisjeruk 2 года назад

Half way in and I've gotta say I love every single card PVDDR decided to showcase. I would love to see more 'tricksy' cards. Hope to see Episode 2 of this.

@robbylava 2 года назад

Great guess on Cruel Ultimatum, Rarran -- that was pretty much perfectly reasoned. I thought you'd try comparing it to Ultimate Infestation and overrate it!

@Nope0823 2 года назад

I would watch 2 hours of you guessing magic cards

@squishytoad3078 7 месяцев назад

I would say in all of these MTG card reviews you’ve ever done the collab with PVDDR is definitely the one that I enjoy the most

@cyanic3148 11 месяцев назад

that Cho-Manno "you're right, it was bait" with Rarran's delayed reactions was hilarious

@dedfoker 2 года назад

7:47 have you ever heard of a lovely strategy called "mill" 10:34 brother, card advantage is one of the most important aspects in mtg. Cards like brainstorm, ponder, opt and recently consider and memory deluge are strong because they let us choose more options and answers to deal with our opponents. Ponder afaik is banned in some formats as well as brainstorm. I wonder what he would think of dream trawler or Koma, cosmos serpent.

@jelliefishr2336 2 года назад

yeah, i'm mainly an EDH player so traumatize is very good with bruvac or anowon as commander, but i guess in a format where every card has to count or get cut, it's not that great

@dedfoker 2 года назад

@@jelliefishr2336 mill has to be complemented with something else or you'll be restricted in defense and responses for anything you opponents do. I use ashiok nightmare muse in historic brawl and i use some mill, some exile but always with control. Pure mill isn't that reliable by itself.

@CaioOleskovicz 2 месяца назад

Traumatize is HORRIBLE in mill decks. Very ineffective for it's cost.

@dedfoker 2 месяца назад

@@CaioOleskovicz you need quick mill to win. Traumatize is cool but there's decks that can beat you before you even cast it.

@henryzelman4541 2 года назад

The chad move is to hit him with the one with nothing bait Edit: lmao it worked

@gregorystiver7198 2 года назад

Hey it saw limited tournament play as admittedly dubious tech against the "howling owl" decks that forced your opponents to draw extra cards and win with Ebony Owl Netsuke damage. Every effect has its place 😜

@nekrataali 2 года назад

One With Nothing is definitely the best worst card ever printed. It's similar to Lion's Eye Diamond in that it needs its own version of dredge and flashback.

@jimhalpert4959 2 года назад

I haven’t actively played Magic since I was a freshman in high school in 1994….. and I couldn’t stop watching this video. 😂 Very cool collaboration guys! 👍

@Z-one1000 2 года назад

As an avid Magic fan, I love videos like this that expose different people to the game. Would love to see more of this.

@saltkeeper44 2 года назад

10:31 Raffan, my brother, it's a 1 mana draw 3

@Aivas1 2 года назад

yeah bro i was thinking of secret passage when that card came up. Like, how could that not be broken.

@m.r.r.2636 2 года назад

You seem to kinda forget you need to put 2 cards back right away. Don't get me wrong Brainstorm is a very good Magic card, but it is no Ancestral Vision like you make it out to be. Also the comparison to Secret Passage from HS is flawed when SP can be played with any amount of cards in hand, so it can effectively just draw you 4 cards for that turn. Additionally HS as a digital game has the capacity to generate cards which stays after SP shuffles the drawn cards into your deck. If SP read "at end of turn shuffle your hand into your deck" it would be quite a bit worse but still very playable.

@zahara5681 2 года назад

These types of videos are really fun, i've watched every one you've made and it doesn't get old. Good editing too! Hope you keep making these Rarran, have a great day!

@bigmclargehuge8219 2 года назад

Oh man, I'd love to see another episode of this! Also, it's funny, cause as a casual player who plays EDH, Traumatize looks REALLY good to me! It's so wild to hear that it isn't!

@ForceOfWill100 2 года назад

You actually did super well, MTG is preposterously context-dependent so evaluating individual cards is really hard without an idea of what type of deck it would fit into. Fun video, and I'd definitely like to see you try out some MTG arena!

@snaeper5862 2 года назад

A good example is Traumatize. I run it in my Bruna, Light of Alabaster commander deck and it's one of my best cards. I Traumatize myself and on next attack am all but guaranteed to have at least 6-8 Auras pulled onto her.

@trevorkroon2163 2 года назад

1:08 "So in Magic, if a card costs 11, you usually won't play it until turn 18 or 20." Hearthstone players: Wait, the game can last more than ten turns?

@cayhle 2 года назад

With the state of MtG these days, if a card casts 11 you'll cheat it into play on turn 3.

@TheDragoMorph 2 года назад

I mean, most Magic games won't go past turn 10 either.

@Umezete 2 года назад

TBF usually not really. it's possible in magic sure but usually games wrap up in 5-7 with a few wrapping up earlier and later.

@2000sDigitalBoy 2 года назад

Rarran didn't do half bad for not having ever played the game.

@nathanseverson-baker3412 2 года назад

This was super fun! We need a part 2

@SquashBounce 2 года назад

I want to see more of these with more nuanced card text! It’s interesting seeing someone walk through the game design and work out some of the general concepts that keep magic interesting!

@Cheerwine091 2 года назад

8:01 “Oh wow, this is a really cool mechanic!” That’s what we all thought about milling. Then milling decks became a thing…

@lazerbeam134 2 года назад

Mill is fun, self mill is even better

@crizzswerve4734 2 года назад

I know they’re talking about competitive side of magic, but as a commander player there is a lot more places for these “weaker” cards

@Pentregarth 2 года назад

Your enthusiasm when guessing right is infectious :) Would love to see you do Flesh and Blood at some point too as it is currently my favourite TCG

@inzizor 2 года назад

Love this video and the editing! Definitely need more guessing magic cards!

@simonteesdale9752 2 года назад

I've seen a few of these types of questions and it's always awesome. I'd love to see people try to figure out companions though. (In particular, Lutri, Lurrus, Yorion and Obosh.)

@TheJonDoe 2 года назад

Man, poor Rarran. This card selection was brutal. Def hard to analyze for a non-magic player.

@m.r.r.2636 2 года назад

I don't think you are a Magic player, or you're not thinking that much about the vast card pool in Magic. The selection could have been so, so much worse. The samples didn't include that many mechanics nor ones of the weirder types, like Banding, Cumulative Upkeep or even heavily used mechanics that requires a lot of mechanical or format specific understanding to evaluate like Protection, Auras, Equipment or even just non-basic lands. I definitely think there could have been more context given through selected samples, for instance in regards to removal and average creature statlines contra mana cost.

@TheJonDoe 2 года назад

@@m.r.r.2636 Judging by your comment you're def a magic player. Probably a control player. And a frequent poster on mtg subreddit, maybe on mtga as well. No disrespect though.

@imsorrydave9000 2 года назад

@@TheJonDoe LMAO got em

@WolfA4 2 года назад

This was actually a really interesting video, I enjoyed it. I'd love to see a video where certain deck types in Hearthstone are compared to their insane counter parts in MTG, like show a mill deck in Hearthstone where you might get your opponent to mill 3 or 4 cards in a game compared to a MTG version where you just throw your opponent's entire deck in the grave yard in one turn.

@marpj6138 2 года назад

This comment made me wish he had to decide if Hermit Druid is good or not XD

@PrincipalSkinner3190 2 года назад

This was the most fun of the series, since I actually got to guess too. I've never played magic before.

@RemoveChink 2 года назад

Yugioh would be impossible.

@minds_decay 2 года назад

Tru

@f33f33nkou 2 года назад

Lol, milling isn't always a viable strategy in standard but getting rid of half someone's library is always super strong. Bad take on that card

@martinkeyaerts1509 2 года назад

Oh my. .... this was really fun to see because i'm a player of both magic and heartstone. I want more like this please!

@alexandralenz7790 2 года назад

very fun to listen! Good job guys! :)

@igorkarpliuk2492 2 года назад

I do have to say that the “usefulness” of a magic card is very different from format to format. I don’t play normals, and only play commander. Traumatise would be insane in commander

@kitsovereign4127 2 года назад

Traumatize is pretty weak in Commander too. Mill struggles there the same way burn does - there's too many players, with too many cards, and it doesn't affect the battlefield. Plus, many decks have ways to benefit from cards in their graveyard, and you're just helping them. You'll still play it if you're trying to make mill work, though - it's very funny with Bruvac.

@igorkarpliuk2492 2 года назад

@@kitsovereign4127 i guess you are right. Im biased because i play Phenax, god of deception. Hes a mill deck

@demonkiwi 2 года назад

Traumatized is amazing in commander, but only if you are self milling in a graveyard deck

@Umezete 2 года назад

It's basically impossible to rate interesting cards in commander outside of the most cutthroat competitive decks (cedh) Like traumatize isn't good, but it's splashy. Splashy does things in casual commander so it's "good," there.