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Hearthstone Theory: Predicting the Decks of Rastakhan's Rumble 

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Strings for the Theorized Decks:
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@jearvinsevilleno4235
@jearvinsevilleno4235 5 лет назад
Malygos Shaman? Eureka into Malygos, 2x Totemic Slam, 2x Lightning Bolt is 30 dmg exactly. If you miss it, you can just play Kragwa to reload on all 5 spells again for another shot.
@kevinz8554
@kevinz8554 5 лет назад
Any reason why you would run this instead of maly druid? I'm not trying to be toxic - I'm seriously asking to see if I want to build it or not
@theotherguy4456
@theotherguy4456 5 лет назад
because shaman @@kevinz8554
@jearvinsevilleno4235
@jearvinsevilleno4235 5 лет назад
@@iAidanugget Well, this combo, at a minimum, does 30 exactly. However, with a bit of luck (assuming Kragwa and Malygos are the only minions in your hand), if you hit the first 30 dmg, you can play Kragwa on the turn you have the overload from the bolts and "reload" the combo again for another 30. This is also neglecting any discounts from random things like Haunting Visions or Far Sight, the latter of which can be double cast with Electra. Also there's some kind of interaction with Zola or Youthfuls or even Bog Slosher to bounce the Kragwa again so you can keep bursting for 30. Only Dirty Rat would break this combo, in theory
@jearvinsevilleno4235
@jearvinsevilleno4235 5 лет назад
@@kevinz8554 Well, yes. You have access to powerful board clears like Volcano and Lightning storm. You have burst healing with Healing Rain. You have the combos of Zentimo and Hex. Random spell generation with Hagatha which could fetch combo pieces . Also, this deck wouldn't telegraph to your opponent that you're going to kill them like Malygos Druid does. Malygos druid has set up turns, like setting the Twig to one durability or playing dreampetal florist or Alex. This deck only needs to draw its pieces and stay alive and then it can do 30 dmg from "nowhere". Plus it's a new Shaman deck that isn't Even or Shudder combo that wasn't possible before this expansion, so that's bonus points in my book
@Polemion
@Polemion 5 лет назад
But most have more than 30 damage try my elemental overload malygos shaman deck it has more than one synergy
@Petrico94
@Petrico94 5 лет назад
There's often a rise in face hunter when a new expansion starts being tested so maybe keep that in mind
@billy373
@billy373 5 лет назад
6:54, actualy good
@chinglamyung
@chinglamyung 5 лет назад
nah needs work on pitch.
@DeadAhead710
@DeadAhead710 5 лет назад
Instantly hit that like when I heard the Galvadon song, love the great vids Penniless keep it up!
@AdrieSteia
@AdrieSteia 5 лет назад
For Paladin I am hype for Heal Zoo, maybe it will end up being Odd Heal Zoo. But anyway quite similar to Warlock's Heal Zoo but with some weapons, Thekal, and others. I hope it's good because I really like the concept.
@Goldieczech
@Goldieczech 5 лет назад
That hotline miami soundtrack in backgrounds. its detaisl like this that get your vids to perfection
@FruitSmax
@FruitSmax 5 лет назад
praise be to krag'wa bless the frogs
@Ghytiees
@Ghytiees 5 лет назад
So glad I've found your channel. I've waiting for content like this, actual predictions of the next meta. I'm so tired of "1-Star" cards because it doesn't fit in the current meta. I mean its a damn expansion the whole point is to change the meta.
@kevinz8554
@kevinz8554 5 лет назад
Lol you think this set is good enough to change the meta? Maybe when the last three sets rotate out
@Ghytiees
@Ghytiees 5 лет назад
I don't care if it redefines this meta. I just would like to see some bold predictions.
@Radarssbm
@Radarssbm 5 лет назад
Ghytiees I think it’s cool to see bold predictions, but it’s also not fair to criticize people like Trump for rating things 1 star if he’s likely right that it won’t shake up the meta lol. Wanting things to change doesn’t make people wrong when they say things won’t change. With all that in mind, I hope we get some cool new archetypes and I hope heal paladin and discardlock are at least tier 3
@Ghytiees
@Ghytiees 5 лет назад
Sorry, I'm just getting bored of the all the "1-star" ratings, be it trump or whoever. They are probably right, but damn it take chance on a few cards or maybe even a new archetype.
@pedrooliveira8937
@pedrooliveira8937 5 лет назад
@@Radarssbm If you want to change the meta completely, you cant do it in one expansion obviously, since you cant generate enough Good cards to do so (as previously stated by DisguisedToast for example). Its obvious that HS wants to create diversity in decks, probably in the next expansion they will keep releasing pirates among other specific cards, op cards will rotate out and you will get many diferent decks at disposal. So, tell me, you rather hear one explanation saying "this" is a 1 star cards, and you gain knowledge prior to 1 expansion, or do you want to hear predictions that will tell you (in general) how the game will be for the next following expansions? Answer: if you just want to play in the present and you dont care about the future or predictions, you have the trump analisys, if you want more complex information mixed with predictions, you are in the right channel. So.. yeah, i dont think its really right to criticize Trump in the mindset of which this debate was generated. altough it is also not right to criticize penny for his "view" of the things. Additionally, Trump tried to criticize penny comparing both his and penny´s analogies (by comparing the rating systems and throw out his opinion), something that is certainly not comparable directly, meaning that you will have to cope with people roasting Trump, since he made a bad decision ( altough i think its not right to roast anyone in this case :) ) Keep these facts in mind Michael and have a great day!
@ukaszsmith6851
@ukaszsmith6851 5 лет назад
"buff your hand, then discard it!" this is gold
@720pchannel
@720pchannel 5 лет назад
Thank you for reminding me of the added potential to mill rogue in wild
@jimdofrunetotem
@jimdofrunetotem 5 лет назад
Still sticking with my prediction that this set is gonna be underwhelming, @ me if I'm wrong.
@iandakariann
@iandakariann 5 лет назад
King Razie it's supposed to be. Last year's set was overwhelming. Thus instead of chasing the power creep, we are keeping it low. Thus why we get cards that are good for decks that don't exist. Next rotation, all of the strong cards are gone and we are left with incomplete decks all around and a much lower power level. Try to yourself. Open any good deck, take out last year's cards and see which decks still exist.
@markmarkson4455
@markmarkson4455 5 лет назад
@Lisha xoxo ASMR Witchwood was a good set though
@liquidwater1133
@liquidwater1133 5 лет назад
It was underwhelming
@duelponzac
@duelponzac 5 лет назад
they are prob preparing field for future cards (making april's rotation not too slow like we think about this very expansion). About my last statement, think about it: once un goro, frozen throne and kobolds rotate out, many, if not EVERY SINGLE DECK THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE META AT THE MOMENT might disappear. Therefore, we would need stuff to play with, but creating something from nothingness (i dont even know if this word exist, my bad) means you get not many sinergies - bad deck construction, in other words. With this, by creating new stuff that might support future cards, we dont have to worry with new year's expansions.
@PINO1101
@PINO1101 5 лет назад
@Michael Barber so true
@r3dcheese899
@r3dcheese899 5 лет назад
Hunters call draws you 1/3 cards. It doesn't give you a copy of the card. 4:32 you don't discover Katherina, you will draw it. (Confirmed by Peter Whalen on Twitter)
@calebwhyley1684
@calebwhyley1684 5 лет назад
I think you underestimate discard warlock and overestimate the rogue spirit but good video nonetheless
@trendymirror
@trendymirror 5 лет назад
While discard warlock might much better this expansion the chances that it will work is still very low.
@calebwhyley1684
@calebwhyley1684 5 лет назад
Trendy Mirror I mean it is a very good value deck but you are right a good but inconsistent value deck may not be enough this expansion but I think it will be tier 2 because for value decks it’s value is insane and it basically makes up for the issues discard warlock had but I still may be wrong
@trendymirror
@trendymirror 5 лет назад
@@calebwhyley1684 I honestly cant see slow value decks being meta any time soon. It upsets me if there are ever good value decks then mechathun and shudderwock will just combo the value decks. I really dont like mechathun and shudderwock for this reason they essentially put time limits on game and if the average game is over their time limit they will become super relevant and bring in a more aggro meta.
@harbear6276
@harbear6276 5 лет назад
The rogue spirit definitely isn't as good as Brann imo. The strongest point of Brann is he's a neutral so he can fit into any class with any amount of battlecries. Limiting the spirit to Rogue mean's it'll be most more restricted on use and thus won't have as much use.
@mnmsdn
@mnmsdn 5 лет назад
"High Priest Thekal + Molten Giant" will an interesting combo.
@AzizidarkReborn
@AzizidarkReborn 5 лет назад
Gonk OTK is fun and can be insane. But you're mostly right about Malygos and Tokens being much stronger than newer decks right now.
@huypham2911
@huypham2911 5 лет назад
You need 29 brawls as warrior and 1 baku to deal with discard warlock, which is gonna be out of control 😂
@buddapest143
@buddapest143 5 лет назад
this was incredibly more informative and interesting than people such as Kripparian and Firebat, IMO.
@kippy7206
@kippy7206 5 лет назад
With Rise of Shadows looming ever closer I'm enjoying looking back over your previous predictions Mr. Penniless: you were actually remarkably accurate with your Rastakan predictions. Decks you thought would fail... did. Most decks you thought would work, did (Kingsbane rogue made such a comeback thanks to Raiding Party that it had to get hamstrung, and even that whacky Dragon / Rush warrior is now at least tier 3). Most of all, you got the top dog right all along; sadly enough, Odd Paladin remained top dog . It's largely kept off the top because of its abysmal matchup with MR Hunter, giving them a whole bunch of small minions to run springpaws into gives them enormous Hyenas and leaves the Paladin with no real response. The real question is... what's your Mech hunter list?! I've been playing both a Pure Mech Magnetic style and a Mechrattle with some non-mech powerful cards (Shaw, Cube, etc), please share your wisdom qt3.14!
@nandoPluister
@nandoPluister 5 лет назад
4:30 you dont discover a copy, you only draw the card
@CardinalLaw9
@CardinalLaw9 5 лет назад
Best vid I’ve seen about the new expansion!
@krumrashkov7228
@krumrashkov7228 5 лет назад
druid -bad on what ya tripin fella
@kyriakosbekas
@kyriakosbekas 5 лет назад
Your videos slay dude!!! I love them!! Thank you so much Penniless!!
@yuls3762
@yuls3762 5 лет назад
You got a thumps up for that galvadon song cover
@JstnMoyer
@JstnMoyer 5 лет назад
Master's Call may not work with Kathrena anyway since you would be drawing a large percentage of your beasts leaving nothing left for Kathrena to summon on Battlecry and Deathrattle.
@ramonestefano
@ramonestefano 5 лет назад
I'm 3 minutes in the video and I'd like to say that Odd Druid, which is Zooish, is pretty good. You got the Gloom Stag going on, which is very strong.
@kennethokubo3435
@kennethokubo3435 5 лет назад
yeah. i think the deck at least would use spirit of the raptor to curve out and keep up card advantage against other aggro decks. otherwise. gonk, loti, and treespeaker seem the next likely candidates for the deck (landscaping is decent in odd due to above average stats and board flood).
@kevinz8554
@kevinz8554 5 лет назад
@@kennethokubo3435 loti yes. Treespeaker is terrible lol
@kennethokubo3435
@kennethokubo3435 5 лет назад
@@kevinz8554 tbh i'm not even sure if loti would see play in odd. the only forms you'd realistically use are the rush and taunt. and druid of the scythe's 2/4 taunt as opposed to 1/6 just seems way better. i don't see how treespeaker is bad. it's really just that treants are bad. but if you have an aggressive deck that is able to flood the board with treants before turn 5. then you have a decent reason to use treespeaker to get them to stick to the board better. most likely there's way better cards out there and you've got the opponent dead with savage roar by 5 anyways.
@michaelkearney2294
@michaelkearney2294 5 лет назад
This channel Daddy chump And hearthstone mathematics is where it’s at
@sagatario58
@sagatario58 5 лет назад
I still wonder if Hero Attack druid may be better, especially with the interaction that Disguised Toast found with having two is of the druid loas on board.
@MrCleks
@MrCleks 5 лет назад
Seance and Mass Histeria are godsents to APM priest. Both fix the core issue of the deck, and also allow it to trim down the redundant combo slots to fit in a more control style.
@Patashu
@Patashu 5 лет назад
Blake Huynh Regenerate + Auchenai Phantasm replaces the Boar + Divine Spirit OTK too, it requires less Combo pieces and doesn’t care about board state so it’s more consistent.
@MrCleks
@MrCleks 5 лет назад
@@Patashu Can you give a proper combo sequence example? This sounds pretty interesting
@Patashu
@Patashu 5 лет назад
@@MrCleks Go to 'Rastakhan's Rumble: Priest Theorycrafting' in CompetitiveHS subreddit and search for Advic's post. Basically the way it works is that you can clone Regenerate by casting it on a Test Subject, and then later swap to Auchenai Phantasm and use your stored Regenerate(s) to get multiplies back each time you vivid and kill the TS, and use your extra Regenerates on the enemy face and go infinite (or as fast as you can play cards).
@staticsight
@staticsight 5 лет назад
Secret Hunter gets SO MUCH GAS with Zul'jin, and I think adding Masked Contender adds a lot of tempo to the list as well- which makes me think that Secret Hunter is gonna be at least somewhat better.
@kevinz8554
@kevinz8554 5 лет назад
I agree it'll be better. But I'm no confident it'll be tier 1
@Braveass
@Braveass 5 лет назад
Great video as always! Keep it going!
@InternetUser11
@InternetUser11 5 лет назад
Time to break out the ol’ Lakkari
@Ikelae
@Ikelae 5 лет назад
I think the Dragon archetype works pretty well in Warrior, it is pretty mad wicked decent.
@CaptainEggcellent
@CaptainEggcellent 5 лет назад
Love your videos man. Keep it up.
@eksskellybur
@eksskellybur 5 лет назад
Just came up with the idea for Murloc Druid. The idea is that you have your Murlocs, and with the help of Murloc Tastyfin and some other cards that help you draw out that you can make a fast enough deck that helps you continue pressuring the Opponent. Your Card draw limit is 10. (And no, UI is not worth it. It's an Aggro deck, and it wants to kill shit quickly.) In the Meanwhile, you have some good Synergy Cards, such as Witchwood Grizzly, and Witching Hours, and Banana Buffon for the Bananas, so that way you can protect your more important minions. Deck Code: AAECAZICAl/KhgMOxQPbA/4D4wXQB9kHpwidwgKN8AKm8ALy8QLSiQPiiQOFigMA
@happytrees6484
@happytrees6484 5 лет назад
Masters call doesn't discover a copy, it draws the card from your deck
@Sammy-tw6zv
@Sammy-tw6zv 5 лет назад
So I play with the cards given and hopefully I get good cards like the dragon warrior synergies. Good luck on the pack openings!
@Authoity4576
@Authoity4576 5 лет назад
First deck for me is gonna be face shaman with likum and i’m gonna make it work damnit
@FishWash
@FishWash 5 лет назад
I could definitely see that working. Likkim seems really strong
@xxxsnippzzxxx9355
@xxxsnippzzxxx9355 5 лет назад
I'd say more midrange overload with thunder head and Zaps is more the direction to go in because odd and even pally and odd rogue will just dominate the early game That's what I'm going to try anyway :) 2 mana 3/3 weapon is so underrated
@xuspirahopte5549
@xuspirahopte5549 5 лет назад
For the few that see this and can make use of it, I recommend even warlock as it beats combo decks, crushes aggro decks that aren't heavy on burst, and will likely we fast enough to outpace any new decks. Though, odd rogue tends to have the highest winrate for the first week of new expansions now.
@cameronrozier3135
@cameronrozier3135 5 лет назад
I just wanted to say that Master’s call does not discover a card, it draws it no matter what. If you discover Kathrena, you draw it (still not that bad)
@DatMageDoe
@DatMageDoe 5 лет назад
So let's see some of your assessments and how well they fared after launch: Druid: So true it had to be nerfed. Druid's core was so good, and its existing OTK combos were so powerful, that alternate options such as Gonk just weren't super viable. Gonk was the eptiome of Fun but not Effective, fitting for it to have a name similar to a certain Hunter legendary minion. Hunter: Oof... calling Oondasta a bad fit for Deathrattle Hunter was pretty bad. The Oondasta package consisting of Armani War Bear, Oondasta, and Witchwood Grizzly (already ran in most Deathrattle Hunters) is pretty powerful, enough so that it's currently the main way to run Deathrattle Hunter. Undatakah was good, but it had dreadful synergy with Deathstalker beasts, which made it a niche choice in Hunter. Your idea for a Big Beast Hunter was alright, but without the Deathrattle package, it was severely lacking. Mage: I'll be honest, nobody expected Odd Mage to be bad. The Hero Power was already pretty good, it just needed some extra oomph to get going. Elemental Mage... sucked. Again. Again. Again. I swear, Elemental synergy is so bad at a core it'd take some genuinely busted effects to make it work. Paladin: The closest thing to "Control" Paladin got was a rise in the DK OTK deck. Shirvallah Holy Wrath was tried out in early Rastakhan, but quickly died off due to DK OTK being so much better, plus not requiring waiting you ran out of your deck to do. Odd Paladin was so good it had to get nerfed, though the core was so good it still soldiers on. Priest: Quest Priest was tried, but it was dead on arrival. Otherwise, not much to say here. Rogue: Kingsbane returning was right on the money, to such a point it had to be nerfed. Spirit of the Shark, however, just didn't work out. Brann was 1 mana less, and that's 1 mana less which really mattered. Plus, Rogue doesn't have a lot of Battlecries they'd like to trigger twice, so they passed it up. Gral jumped into the air with Darkness, then got plucked by a bird which laughed at Gral for playing one of the worst cards in the game. Pirates kinda worked... at Tier 3, but it's kinda viable. Shaman: Zentimo didn't see play outside of a Tier 4 aggro deck. Someone tried to kiss Krag'Wa and put it into a viable deck, but was subsequently turned into a toad and now nobody wants anything to do with the frog. Evolve flopped pretty hard, instead with Shaman's primary representation being an Even Shaman with elemental synergies. But yeah, Likkim is only in that Tier 4 Aggro Shaman I mentioned earlier. Warlock: Warlock continued doing their classic Cube and Even shenanigans. Zoo fell from grace into Tier 3, but it's close to viability. But yeah, Blizzard accidentally discarded all the good cards for Warlock this expansion. Warrior: Warrior's claim to fame is Odd. Not enough good Rushers are Odd to justify the buildaround, but enough good Dragons are Odd to give that an excuse to exist. Bar the Tier 3 Rush Warrior.
@benepic3101
@benepic3101 5 лет назад
Eureka summons krag’wa, play combo, next turn play krag’wa to get combo back, repeat ad infinitum.
@KiDKiSAM3
@KiDKiSAM3 5 лет назад
Small review on the dragon Rush deck... Firetree which doctor is 100% must add‼️‼️(discovered the boom ship and laid down malygos and 2 primordial Drake's) the rush package is very good but only when you get those exact perfect pans and drawers early-game otherwise it doesn't help too much in the Late game.(I didn't have Darius) also devastate is very weird it's like a worst execute but more flexible (???). also Cobalt scalebane is a great addition if you do want to get more Temple oriented you can get for the board up and then Cobalt scalebane can help out. Overall the deck works out pretty well the only problem is you need to decide whether you want to be more early game oriented or more late game oriented I'm having more fun with late game
@jarredfarmer9944
@jarredfarmer9944 5 лет назад
I'm pretty sure Master's call doesn't give you a copy of the minion/minions
@user-hh1bi6lm2l
@user-hh1bi6lm2l 5 лет назад
Trustee Patches if the 3 beast restriction isnt satisfied, its simply a plain discover. At least to my understanding
@jarredfarmer9944
@jarredfarmer9944 5 лет назад
@@user-hh1bi6lm2l discover a minion and draw it if all 3 are beasts draw them No copying just like tracking but you don't discard
@Jason0binladen
@Jason0binladen 5 лет назад
You forget about secret hunter for Vul'jin playing one each of every secret you played that game can win you the game
@schumerus6786
@schumerus6786 5 лет назад
Everyone keeps forgetting Bog Slosher can bring up a spell damage totem for 1 Mana with 2/4 Stats, that alone makes it a card considering. Otherwise a 2/4 Taunt or heal by 1 at the end if turn aren’t bad either. Just the attack totem might be a bit underwhelming compared to the others
@brentramsten249
@brentramsten249 5 лет назад
funnily enough, "100% win rate gonk otk druid" is open in another tab as i watch this video.
@goldfishgallant1432
@goldfishgallant1432 5 лет назад
Big beast hunter? Spell hunter will surely value zuljin much more (multiple secrets, greater spellstone, deadly shot, crushing walls) Insane
@rawovunlapin8201
@rawovunlapin8201 5 лет назад
Whilst you do discover Kathrena, it's apparently not a copy. You just draw her.
@MetaIIo
@MetaIIo 5 лет назад
4:39 you don't get a copy you draw the card itself.
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 5 лет назад
odd and even paladin good, but druid has had several decks that can go toe-to-toe with it.
@evanolszewski6441
@evanolszewski6441 5 лет назад
Man you really cut the upload date on this one close. Also please no more mill rogue in wild, I see that deck enough as it is
@Pyronaut_
@Pyronaut_ 5 лет назад
How does Scaleworm bind Dragon and Rush together though? Since it only gains rush from its it doesn't synergize with the spirit or town crier. EDIT: Just had this synergy happen in Rumble Run. Scaleworm did get Immune from the Shrine.
@kevinz8554
@kevinz8554 5 лет назад
Yea sometimes Penniless gets the cards wrong...
@xxxsnippzzxxx9355
@xxxsnippzzxxx9355 5 лет назад
It does work with the spirit :) Same with cards that gain rush and Dr boom mad genius and mechs
@faithlessfixation
@faithlessfixation 5 лет назад
Just tried it. It works.
@yosh3301
@yosh3301 5 лет назад
Anything that gets rush works spirit. It even works with rocket boots
@mefo45
@mefo45 5 лет назад
0:20 How did he come up with this number? The Standard Set (including Rastakhan's) has 6*135 unique (not counting the duplicates for Common, Rare, Epic) cards (135 in each expansion) plus 236 unique cards from the Classic Set, which is 1146 in total.
@accitipundh
@accitipundh 5 лет назад
6:54 best part xD
@spookster7564
@spookster7564 5 лет назад
I haven't watched the video yet but if handbuff hir'eek isn't on here im gonna poopoo
@austinprince2109
@austinprince2109 5 лет назад
Discard control lock seems strong. You can pull zavas with witchwood piper and just discard her and jeklik the whole time. At least that’s what I think
@reyniki4820
@reyniki4820 5 лет назад
Still playing my old elemental big spell mage deck with one arcanosaur XD Probably going to change it around and run a couple of silences since enchantment paladin may be a thing.
@WizoIstGott
@WizoIstGott 5 лет назад
Spirit of the Shark goes straight into my wild Kingsbane/Mill Deck. Can´t wait to let people burn through all their new shiny cards :D
@cheezuschrist588
@cheezuschrist588 5 лет назад
I think shriek in warlock is really good, and might be enough to make cubelock better than even.
@WizoIstGott
@WizoIstGott 5 лет назад
If you still lack the legend cardback, just play heal zoo once the expansion hits live. All the new stuff they try to push is so freakin slow, its pretty much free for Zoo while everyone is experimenting.
@quale4521
@quale4521 5 лет назад
Well, the problem with this Diversity Design is, that not every new Archetype can compete with the old top tier decks, so we will still see more of the old decks than we'd like
@jasonhsu9954
@jasonhsu9954 5 лет назад
Hey penniless, could you do a video on spiteful druid? It is one of my favorite decks, and is the exception of the druid ramp package.
@oscargiese3516
@oscargiese3516 5 лет назад
Two issues I have: -Masters Call doesn't discover copies, you draw the minions from your deck -And why should bog slosher be good in shudderwock? As long as grumble is in rotation, this thing isn't needed and once grumble is out, saronite is out as well. The problem with bog slosher is that it will give you a 9 cost shudderwock which you will be unable to play on the same turn, making your finisher much slower
@flamingice3665
@flamingice3665 5 лет назад
1. If you use Master's Call and if all three cards aren't beasts you discover 1 instead of draw 3. Kathrena isn't a beast so you would be discovering her if you were supposedly getting that from Master's Call. 2. Zola is currently being played in Shudderwock. Bog Slosher is a similar effect that could be better/worse. However consistency in drawing that effect is definitely increased. Hope that answered your questions.
@Bubbstep1
@Bubbstep1 5 лет назад
@@flamingice3665 But Zola adds a copy to your hand, Bog Slosher has the same effect as Grumble but is strictly worse because the Shudderwock will cost 9 mana whereas with Grumble it costs 1. Bog Slosher's effect is also strictly worse than Zola's because you'd rather have 2 shudderwocks with 1 costing 1 (at least) than one shudderwock costing 9 (again at the least).
@flamingice3665
@flamingice3665 5 лет назад
@@Bubbstep1 Shudderwock decks run BOTH Zola and Grumble. You would be cutting zola for bog slosher. So you would still be getting your grumble effect from shudderwock. It's just a safety measure in case your grumble effect comes before the chain gang effect.
@Bubbstep1
@Bubbstep1 5 лет назад
@@flamingice3665 But bog slosher is strictly worse than zola too, when shudderwock goes off, Zola allows more shudderwocks to be created because it adds a copy to your hand. If bog slosher activates first then saronite's effect might not trigger because nothing would be on board due to bog slosher. You'd be replacing Zola or grumble with a strictly worse card
@flamingice3665
@flamingice3665 5 лет назад
@@Bubbstep1 Like I said you wouldn't be replacing grumble with bog slosher. Directly comparing with Zola, Bog slosher is +1/1 in stats, and its effect is not a pure downside. With zola you get to keep the minion on board, which is good. But bog slosher gives your minion +2/2. This is relevant especially against druid, where you can now turn 2 totem without feeling bad about spreading plague. They both have their benefits. they both add a 9 mana cost shudderwock to your hand which admittedly is worse than a 1 mana version. However you could consider it as a backup. Also addressing your recent comment, if bog slosher's effect triggers first then nothing happens because its battlecry affects other minions. Keyword being other. So saronite's effect will trigger
@cluehunter18
@cluehunter18 5 лет назад
In terms of decks people are thinking won't work for Paladin, Trump thinks that Healidin won't work and I agree with him to some degree.
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 5 лет назад
did healadin ever work?
@cluehunter18
@cluehunter18 5 лет назад
@@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 People are saying that with new cards like Thekal and that 3 mana restore 4 and draw a card will make a viable Healadin, however I disagree, there's too little synergies to go with it. The only way I can see it working is like a weird version of Heal Zoo but for Paladin, but I feel like even if that were to happen, the Warlock version will just be better.
@cookedartichoke5914
@cookedartichoke5914 5 лет назад
I took your idea for rush dragon warrior and made it an abomination by throwing in keleseth. I've never climbed so fast in my life
@cookedartichoke5914
@cookedartichoke5914 5 лет назад
And I made odd hunter a thing and am very ashamed of making such a disgusting deck
@elijahhicks361
@elijahhicks361 5 лет назад
I dont know why but I really have my fingers crossed for warlock this expansion. I really want discard to work and I'm hoping there can be a decent handbuff zoo deck
@redkingoldhero38
@redkingoldhero38 5 лет назад
heres to hoping odd mage works out, but i think the big spell version will be better than a tempo version
@redkingoldhero38
@redkingoldhero38 5 лет назад
especially if odd pally is good that new 1 drop will rek!
@anokgamer396
@anokgamer396 5 лет назад
I've been playing Gal and darkness with a bunch of spells and have an 80% winrate. Gal is actually godly in constructed though.
@maximilianomichell3596
@maximilianomichell3596 5 лет назад
Dude DK Jaina + aracanosaur is just insane.
@literatemax
@literatemax 5 лет назад
I thought you were doing a bit when finishing talking about paladin. Why no mention of masochist paladin?
@micahjohnson817
@micahjohnson817 5 лет назад
I feel for the mid-range beast hunter list you take secret Hunter and only use late game beasts as minions so you get some good zuljin/masters call synergy maybe even run dire frenzy For rogue I'm thinking kinda your build but more tempo and you run Hooktusk and vendor, shuffling vendor to get a 15/9 burst and draw Last note, Miracle shaman?
@MrGiovannisassano
@MrGiovannisassano 5 лет назад
try control tempo deathrattle hunter as 1 deck type that way you not a 1 trick pony but with a twist for wild rastakhan's rumble.
@tarkanbadan786
@tarkanbadan786 5 лет назад
What happened with spell Hunter. That Deck owns potential that shouldnt be underestimated.
@dodolicht4027
@dodolicht4027 5 лет назад
So happy that warrior seems good, hell even if the hybrid isn't that good i'll still play it. Good riddance. What do you think about even shaman? Krag'wa seems to compliment it well with hagatha, don't know if I should craft krag'wa for it or not.
@Zenith_36
@Zenith_36 5 лет назад
what a beautiful song :D
@michaelmaxwell7499
@michaelmaxwell7499 5 лет назад
In my personal opinion the spirit of the dead prince k underrated
@RaventhortheWarrior
@RaventhortheWarrior 5 лет назад
Would argue a more control based odd mage would work better with frost lich jaina as a better finisher. The list you posted just...seems to rely too much on zoo since odd cards lack fireball, frostbolt, pyroblast, etc. If jan'alai gets answered you just don't have a push outside hoping on cards. Would also argue Dragon's Roar was notably forgotten by you. It probably might not fit into your deck, but it wasn't even flashed on screen, and adding 2 dragons is insaaaaane compared to card draw, there's practically no bad dragons for you to get. Finally, you might consider the death knight Uther card in that list, not as a combo, but just as a solid card with 15 damage and healing linked to it, which would work BEAUTIFULLY with thekal, and the extra weapon (you only have two truesilvers) works really well with time out. God forbid your nightmare of a rogue deck would work though. I never want to see the darkness and graal in the same deck ever. I am terrified. (I agree with most of your assumptions though. Priest is gonna be weird, no matter what happens, it will be *weird*. And I DO see deathrattle hunter slotting in Oondasta well. Imagine an empty board, and you play Katrina, play dead, get Oondasta who overkills and summons a king krush or something you drew in your hand, and play dead grabs a charged devilsaur, and suddenly you have like 28 damage on board without any keleseth buffs....yikers)
@Radarssbm
@Radarssbm 5 лет назад
That Hunter card draws cards, it doesn’t draw copies...so you won’t get a copy of Kathrena!
@xxxsnippzzxxx9355
@xxxsnippzzxxx9355 5 лет назад
You discover a minion in your deck, but if all three are beats you draw all 3 instead :) so you do get a copy of a non beast minion
@leobastian_
@leobastian_ 5 лет назад
Nope,Shadow visions says "discover a Copy of a spell",discovering a card removes it from The Deck(as the taverns of time Show)
@karakter222
@karakter222 5 лет назад
Bogslosher seems pretty bad for shudderwock, you want 1 mana wocks and not buffed ones that cost 9
@pileofcheese5017
@pileofcheese5017 5 лет назад
old mountain giant at 5:48
@literatemax
@literatemax 5 лет назад
No synergy with handbuff and discard? Jeklik keeps buffs when she copies herself...
@manuelreingen8795
@manuelreingen8795 5 лет назад
Do you have a script?
@sirambravo5243
@sirambravo5243 5 лет назад
You draw the discovered minion with Masters call. You do not get a copy
@kinghazythethird
@kinghazythethird 5 лет назад
The priest deck works best with really low cost minions
@willhelm94
@willhelm94 5 лет назад
Cube Paladin will struggle
@TheDoVErN
@TheDoVErN 5 лет назад
Do you plan on doing this for the upcoming expansion too?
@Slasher9485
@Slasher9485 5 лет назад
I played a game testing a deck out, and I got my ass kicked by quest hunter. The reason? It was also a subject 9 deck.
@krisnamurti9630
@krisnamurti9630 5 лет назад
You deserve more sub bro!
@gccgcc8426
@gccgcc8426 5 лет назад
I was playing a spell hunter yesterday and I burned his Zuljin. Lol.
@furryfox12
@furryfox12 5 лет назад
It's been 3 weeks now. What do you think about discard Warlock now?
@gamingmunky5
@gamingmunky5 5 лет назад
so no one gonna mention secate hunter zaljin combo? for crontroll hunter
@quale4521
@quale4521 5 лет назад
Fool! Valuenyr-Deathrattle-Control Pally shall reign supreme
@adenj1024
@adenj1024 5 лет назад
Zihi in every deck ftw
@liquidwater1133
@liquidwater1133 5 лет назад
Please tell me what to do with gral , which theory crafting for me never works so yeahhhhhhhhh
@notquiteaweebyet1054
@notquiteaweebyet1054 5 лет назад
jan'alai will never work. Sure your hero power deals 2 damage but how will that help when you are limited to only dealing 8 damage total ultil you draw it?
@Simisor
@Simisor 5 лет назад
just put gurubashi chicken in each deck lol , hit legend in 2 days
@Godspeeds
@Godspeeds 5 лет назад
does Penniless know that tost make a OTK deck with gonk, the raptor
@YoloMasterGamerTag
@YoloMasterGamerTag 5 лет назад
I pretty much a epsomage deck for priest but with my own cards
@duckgamer7095
@duckgamer7095 5 лет назад
I'm looking for cards to put in my odd priest... (Value/combo oriented deck with dragon synergies). Any suggestions?
@jamesmorris4530
@jamesmorris4530 5 лет назад
No Jaina in odd mage?
@galaxiamaxtreem7665
@galaxiamaxtreem7665 5 лет назад
Rogue Decks that are already there /still .... Quest rogue maybe
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