HEAT 4KUHD VS BLURAY SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON 

Agreed! And I'm still not sure why people are trashing this. It's obviously better and the way Michael Mann wanted us to see the film.

when I saw it for 9 bucks, I picked it up instantly.

Thanks bro I appreciate that!

Thanks bro. Yeah one big reviewer doesn't like it and all the trolls pour out against those who say different.

And this is why ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5J-WLBp7GgU.html

It varies on your TV settings and T2 isn't dark at all it was just not sourced from the 4K master but was instead sourced from the L 3D master. Anyways it can depend on your TV, the size and the settings on the TV. I watched it on my 65" LG and my 83" LG and there was a difference on the 65" and it did look slightly darker but stil itl wasn't nearly as dark as everyone is claiming it to be. So it very well could be your settings. I have a friend who also said it looked way too dark and he adjusted his settings and said he fixed it and now looks great. Play with the settings and let me know what you find.

@@TwinFlicks I didn't mean T2 UHD is dark, I meant it's a bad transfer. I have an LG CX and I can't make the image any brighter, oled light is 100 and contrast is 100. Dynamic tone mapping helps a lot, but it shouldn't be enabled, it's not accurate. I just compared the 2017 bluray with the 4K disc, and the bluray is A LOT brighter, maybe even too bright. The 4K is just insanely dim. I can't imagine someone would enjoy watching it if they saw what I'm seeing.

@@antoniom9972 hmm I don't know what to say. I agree it's darker but it was never that dark on my end. I keep hearing different things some people say it looked great even though it's slightly darker and I hear others who like yourself say it's too dark. It is accurate and the same 4k grading as the 2017 bluray, I'm sure the HDR makes it darker which might be why it looks brighter on your bluray. I'm not sure why some TVs looks so dark and others it doesn't?

@@antoniom9972 I will say as a side note I have been doing these comparisons for a long time. I use to work on restorations back in the day and color correcting. I spent alot of money buying and calibrating the software/hardware I use and the screenshots are directly from the UHD disc and the bluray with no color enhancements and I don't manipulate anything.

I had another look at the second scene with Vince in the desert; I take it it is dawn and the *brightness of the day* look similar in both blu-ray and 4K. The issue I have is with the money-exchange scene; that to me looks way off - overcast, unbelievable in that it is a bright day in LA and as I mentioned elsewhere it looks like a daytime scene in Silent Hill. If Mann wanted it to look as it does on the 4K, that's that; if our brains remember that scene as being (realistically) bright as we first watched it when the movie came out (pushed by his bosses and contrary to Mann's wishes), ours is a fair point and position and doesn't deserve derision. This has nothing to do with my tv not being calibrated, etc. and other similar jabs too many youtubers elsewhere - who constantly scream for likes and more followers - have lobbed with insults. I take the 2017 blu-ray and this 4K overall look as Mann's vision, but I am finding difficult to watch some daylight scenes. I'll have nothing else to say about this. As an aside, this incident reminded me of Megadeth's "Killing Is My Business..." album where the remaster was Mustaine's auditory "vision" and sounds and finally is a wholly different experience from the original.

Well, now Heat 4k is only $8 haha good time to pick it up

@@makeapathpresents yea I did end up getting it went it went on sale for $6.99. I figured, might as well see what all the fuss is about. I gotta say that the regular Blu-Ray does look and even sound better than the 4K disc. The 4K is definitely darker on my Sony X950H 75”, and I kept having to turn up the volume for the dialog (player is running through a Denon in 5.1.2 config). This wasn’t a problem on the Blu-ray Disc. Oh well. Still worth having for $7.

That's a bit like refusing to buy a new car because you already bought one before.

@@thegrimyeaper that's not a good analogy. The OP isn't saying he refuses to buy something because he already bought it. What he is saying is (using your car analogy here) why buy an expensive new car when the old one still runs great and looks almost just as good as the new one? The OP is right, there really is no need to upgrade to 4k if you already have the blu-ray.

@@thegrimyeaper If they didn't change much like say a Corvette.

So I got the disc in the mail today and just watched it. It....is.......odd. Daylight shots look like constant dark yellow overcast, some shots have vibrant color mixed in with shots that seem almost black and white. (Like when De Niro takes pictures of the cops and when Pacino talks on the phone at the police station) At two points in the movie my LG CX screen must have somehow thought the movie was over or something, because it dimmed itself so dark that now the day shots looked like night, until a really bright point in the screen woke the image up and boom, brightness shot back up. I have never had anything like this happen in the years I've used this TV. I don't think I bought a very good car...

That's extremely odd. Have u adjusted your TV settings? Is it on echo setting? I've never heard of that.

Thanks and i appreciate your comment's. According to Michael Mann's interviews he states that he brought it back to its orgrinal intended color grading. Maybe not in those 100% exact words and research I've done shows this is Mann's prefeted grading that he used for the theatrical run. But yes you are correct alot of times that happens changing the colors for home media viewing like WB did for the DVD and BD release. I'm sure it's not 100% what was shown theatrically that's impossible. But it's as close to it as possible. I focus on it all spacing, grading, highlights etc etc. I have a background working on restorations and home media so I do have a trained eye for it. I've been seeing more and more studios such as Kino Lorber bringing in either the DP or director to ensure the colors are presented accurately as they were intended to be seen.

@@TwinFlicks Ahh okay, I thought he wanted it to look like a new movie. I was confused by this: The ambition here was: If I was shooting the film two or three years ago, what would it look like? That was really it. So we went into every shot.

Absolutely. HDR has nothing to do with sharpness or pixels. It only enhances the image to bring the film as close as possible to a theatrical look

@@TwinFlicks Thanks for the quick reply. And what about the color correction? Is it still as impressive without HDR? I've read another review about the 4K release that also provided screencaps. And in those screencaps the 4K image is noticeably darker and kinda dull, muting all the colors.

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Exactly man

Exactly, also I got to agree, alien and aliens is literally the greatest 4K transfer! I feel that if you want to watch a good 4K disc, use a 4K TV with Dolby vision and atmos, preferably have a Dolby atmos set up or use some good headphones, have a good Dolby vision/atmos 4K UHD Blu-ray player, AND WHAT SO MANY PEOPLE FORGET, GET A GOOD 4K HDMI CABLE! PLEASE 😭.

That's your opinion. My opinion is the new 4K transfer from 2017 used for the UHD is a bad transfer.

Enjoy it. Even though WB changed the color grading

@@DaveG777 How do you know what the original grading was? Did you see the film negative or intrapositive?

No but what does that have to do with anything?

@@DaveG777 The intention of the directors presentation. Do you know what it was originally based on his work with the cinematographer?

I actually watched it on both my 65" TV and 83" OLED and I will say I didn't see the improvements as much as on the 65" as I did on the 83" If you have a 60" and smaller stick with the 2017 Bluray.

@@TwinFlicks I see I saw it on my 75inch Z9J and 65inch LG G2 and aside from the low luminance scenes which they are identical it differs a bit not night and day but an appreciable difference in higher luminance scenes that involve full field scenes. Otherwise I do agree if you do not have a high end LED LCD or OLED than I would stick with the Blu ray as tone mapping for the lower tier 4k displays would darker and lessen the hdr impact even further.

@@TwinFlicks Which 4k player are you using, if I may ask?

@@robomnemonic3751 I played it on both my Panasonic DP-UB9000 And Sony X800M2

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Mmhmm sure

Thanks for watching!

I agree with you sir 💯% as I just compared the 2...😲

LOL!!

I agree... help us out and share the video. Hahah thanks for watching.

@@TwinFlicks I have and also just subed, thanks for your hard work on these I have just recently got back I to physical and some of the 4ks like predator have blown me away.

@JimmyTheBear Thanks man I appreciate that. And if you have any you want us to compare, feel free to leave a comment.