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Heath Ledger vs. Joaquin Phoenix 

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@KarstenRunquist
@KarstenRunquist 4 года назад
who is your favorite joker
@clarkscr3619
@clarkscr3619 4 года назад
Karsten Runquist Jeff
@IluvUFCgirl4eva11
@IluvUFCgirl4eva11 4 года назад
Heath
@quinnkonneman
@quinnkonneman 4 года назад
Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
@hispanic_individual7523
@hispanic_individual7523 4 года назад
Jack Nicholson. But yet again, Heath is the best without a doubt.
@victorconb9848
@victorconb9848 4 года назад
Heath Ledger
@ultron-5600
@ultron-5600 4 года назад
Heath Ledger’s Joker: Chaos Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker: Trauma
@Tw1npmo
@Tw1npmo 4 года назад
Trauma From One Bad Day
@noahnederlands7642
@noahnederlands7642 4 года назад
TayPlayz AndMore more like a bad life lol
@IfYouMeetAWolf
@IfYouMeetAWolf 4 года назад
@Vincent L. *fingers starts itching*..... *there *at
@oddfreaks6452
@oddfreaks6452 4 года назад
TayPlayz AndMore Joker in the comics says he’s one bad day away from everyone being like him. Joker 2019 is about a man who hasn’t had ONE good day
@cameronallen4071
@cameronallen4071 4 года назад
What about Jack nicholson??
@georgekromidas5097
@georgekromidas5097 4 года назад
Joaquin Phoenix: The perfect representation of Joker before he became the Joker. Heath Ledger: The perfect representation of Joker as the Joker.
@alexysese1437
@alexysese1437 4 года назад
Even in the credits, Phoenix was credited as Arthur Fleck instead of Joker
@SR77736
@SR77736 4 года назад
Agreed
@zenobia997
@zenobia997 4 года назад
couldnt be said better
@jadedandbitter
@jadedandbitter 4 года назад
No, Heath Ledger played some guy referred to as the Joker- and he never even refers to himself as such. Behavior wise he isn't even close to the classic Joker at all. He's not deranged at all, he's just VERY sociopathic. The best representation we've had in live action of Joker as the Joker is probably Nicholson's take-he's the only one of the three that genuinely seems to be having fun, and the Joker definitely has fun. It's just that his definition of "fun" isn't very in line with the rest of humanity. Revenge isn't even his focus, per se; he gets that out of the way very fast. The attempt to gas the entire city is motivated by something else- basically his form of a "joke". Now, not limiting the scope to live action, the best Joker as Joker we've had PERIOD is Mark Hamill's, by a long shot.
@jarvisnick3438
@jarvisnick3438 4 года назад
Finally a perfect explanation
@CFNnucci
@CFNnucci 4 года назад
Jared letos joker: “could you introduce me as joke”
@theasherroseman
@theasherroseman 4 года назад
heath ledger joker: “could you introduce me as joe?”
@whawha8808
@whawha8808 4 года назад
@@theasherroseman who's Joe?
@chaotickappaandalohasnackb2951
@chaotickappaandalohasnackb2951 4 года назад
Jared Leto was never the Joker. Just the Joke
@scuffedgameclips8034
@scuffedgameclips8034 4 года назад
@@whawha8808 J O E M A M A
@whawha8808
@whawha8808 4 года назад
@@scuffedgameclips8034 You better not tell Yuri that
@crazylegoids9227
@crazylegoids9227 3 года назад
Heath Ledger showed us what a person could do to a city Joaquin Phoenix made us understand what a city could do to a man
@alecrobbins3989
@alecrobbins3989 3 года назад
awesome
@sriganesh7958
@sriganesh7958 2 года назад
Great man
@VikingBadass94
@VikingBadass94 2 года назад
the duality of man!
@rionking5011
@rionking5011 2 года назад
That was an epic comment well done here’s a cookie🍪
@pripyat.sadboi8092
@pripyat.sadboi8092 2 года назад
good analogy 👏🏻
@taytayqueen7024
@taytayqueen7024 4 года назад
To me, Heath Ledgers Joker has a sense of terrifying urgency. Joaquins Joker is an eerie slow burn.
@Pola-Negri
@Pola-Negri 4 года назад
Heath Ledgers Joker is more like a fantasy about a psychopath. Joaquins Joker (after he stopped with medication) is what a real psychopath would act like. Slower, thoughtful but also incredibly confident. At least that's my opinion.
@TheTriggaTv
@TheTriggaTv 4 года назад
Well that's quite obvious. Joaquin is doing an origin story, which most definitely can't show urgency because he has to develop into joker. Heath is already joker when the movie starts, so there isn't development, but only amplification of the characteristics, showing urgency.
@taytayqueen7024
@taytayqueen7024 4 года назад
TheTriggaTv Very obvious that it's obvious my dude.
@TheTriggaTv
@TheTriggaTv 4 года назад
@@taytayqueen7024 has anything been ever more obvious than something that deserves a "very obvious that it's obvious my dude" , my dude
@taytayqueen7024
@taytayqueen7024 4 года назад
TheTriggaTv 😂😂😂 it's just bants man
@rtolas1
@rtolas1 4 года назад
A 2 hr film with Ledgers Joker would be overkill. His lack of screen time, like Darth Vaders, is part of what makes their characters so threatening and engaging.
@lieutenanteymnotsirius8977
@lieutenanteymnotsirius8977 4 года назад
RT 86 Heath has around 45 minutes of screen time, that’s a lot.
@rtolas1
@rtolas1 4 года назад
@@lieutenanteymnotsirius8977 it is for sure, but its not a joker movie
@lieutenanteymnotsirius8977
@lieutenanteymnotsirius8977 4 года назад
RT 86 Yeah you’re right.
@bullymaquire8797
@bullymaquire8797 4 года назад
RT 86 a heck of a lot more screen time than Phoenix as the actual joker. Then again we didn’t truly get to see Joaquin as the joker at all really...
@mexicanakinskywalker6762
@mexicanakinskywalker6762 4 года назад
less of something is always more valuable. Remember that
@Reaper-ml6ly
@Reaper-ml6ly 4 года назад
Joaquin Phoenix: The Origin story of the Joker Heath Ledger: The Joker in his Prime
@tweedycheetah2083
@tweedycheetah2083 4 года назад
Stolen
@bigal2748
@bigal2748 4 года назад
Jack Nicholson: The Joker as a gangster who takes over
@hdwarrior6304
@hdwarrior6304 4 года назад
Heath ledger is trash compared to Joaquin Phoenix
@travisscottlover911
@travisscottlover911 4 года назад
@@hdwarrior6304 lmao not even
@fckinfruit6776
@fckinfruit6776 4 года назад
Yes
@CamSpooner
@CamSpooner 4 года назад
Leto: When I was a kid I said I was going to be joker and everyone laughed at me, well no ones laughing now Phoenix: Can say that again pal
@kayozzy
@kayozzy 4 года назад
Then Leto kills Phoenix?
@madkatyt968
@madkatyt968 3 года назад
youll get your rent when you fix this damn door! Lol I wonder how no one has seen the connection eh nvm
@ethanschultz5744
@ethanschultz5744 4 года назад
Heath Ledger Joker: Why so serious? Joaquin Phoenix Joker: I used to think my life was a tragedy but then I realised it's a comedy
@kaique8569
@kaique8569 4 года назад
It's a Fucking Comedy
@bradyward2177
@bradyward2177 4 года назад
Very different character, but I feel Joaquin does give a great feel of him being a true predecessor to Ledger
@edwinortiz1262
@edwinortiz1262 4 года назад
For me its MURAYYY
@thesars101
@thesars101 4 года назад
Yeah wtf is his saying. The only thing I can think of is when he was telling murry what his mom used to tell him
@briannaabel8854
@briannaabel8854 4 года назад
@@edwinortiz1262 or "ARTHUR"
@Kevin-hn7en
@Kevin-hn7en 4 года назад
The joker literally made me feel like I was also going insane, I can’t explain it I just felt so in tune with the movie.
@KNXGHT.7
@KNXGHT.7 4 года назад
Same
@Oyuki-Mayonesa
@Oyuki-Mayonesa 4 года назад
Joaquin's performance sucks you in and takes you along for the ride.
@KNXGHT.7
@KNXGHT.7 4 года назад
@@Oyuki-Mayonesa he did a amazing job you just don't know how to watch movies
@lt-colviper3570
@lt-colviper3570 4 года назад
NightFall 76 she wasn’t even insulting the movie bruh, read carefully
@KNXGHT.7
@KNXGHT.7 4 года назад
@@lt-colviper3570 I'm smh i dont know how to read lol sorry
@angpadrino3872
@angpadrino3872 3 года назад
There's no need to compare "Deck always has two jokers" -Weird Badger
@miaalexa7059
@miaalexa7059 4 года назад
heath’s performance was insane and personally dont think it could be topped
@ItsSullybruv
@ItsSullybruv 3 года назад
Exactly
@joemomma5164
@joemomma5164 3 года назад
Didn’t that performance literally kill him? Hard for anyone to come close
@samarjeetbhonsle6000
@samarjeetbhonsle6000 3 года назад
idk man, personally the chills were there the first time i watched TDK, but as i kept watching again and again, they died down a lot, but every fking time i watch Joker 2019 i have the same amt of chills
@jimjam7928
@jimjam7928 2 года назад
@@samarjeetbhonsle6000 I mean, sounds more like you've just watched The Dark Knight a lot over the years, you're going to say the same thing in 10-15 years about Joker.
@HalloweenFreak31
@HalloweenFreak31 2 года назад
Hell yeah. Heath took it to a whole other level. Love his performance!!!
@tobito2013
@tobito2013 4 года назад
Heath's is charming, manipulative, and terrifying. Larger than life. He captures your thoughts with every word he says. He's a better villain. Keeps you inside his brain while Phoenix's keeps you out and observing (not just watching). Phoenix's is sympathetic, weird, and off beat. His performance stabs you where it hurts emotionally. It asks the hard questions. He's a better perspective since Heath's thrive in mysteriousness. He makes you feel bad in all the ways. Both are a perfect fit in their own interpretation of Gotham and its society.
@aidani4633
@aidani4633 4 года назад
Obito Uchiha yeah but Heath’s was better though.
@AdoptedPoo
@AdoptedPoo 4 года назад
@@aidani4633 ur special, you can't compare the two as jaqouin hasnt even played the joker yet
@ginalinetti8975
@ginalinetti8975 4 года назад
@@aidani4633 what an amazing counter argument
@tobito2013
@tobito2013 4 года назад
@K1dCharlemagne Did we watched the same movie? They were trying to portray Joker's deception skills and belief that his past is a multiple choice answer. That's why he kept providing different back stories.
@tobito2013
@tobito2013 4 года назад
@@AdoptedPoo True. We only got a few minutes of his own Joker and it wasn't even fleshed out yet but the potential was there. It was beautiful.
@Matthew_Robert_Vincini
@Matthew_Robert_Vincini 4 года назад
Got to work as an extra in the protest scene. Joaquin shoves me. It was great. But seriously he was really focused and in character on set. He put on sunglasses and smoked a cig after EVERY take. He was the Joker. Excited to actually see the film
@ricimercury9490
@ricimercury9490 4 года назад
How was Todd as a filmmaker
@Matthew_Robert_Vincini
@Matthew_Robert_Vincini 4 года назад
@@ricimercury9490 He was awesome. He actually gave a shit about the extras and would ask if we are ok. He explained the plot to us so we could get in character and understand the scene. Thats all I really saw of him. He made us do ten take under the cold rain machine so that was brutal lol. He seems like a hardworking director
@ricimercury9490
@ricimercury9490 4 года назад
@@Matthew_Robert_Vincini can't believe you're in the film, I'm going to sneak into an age restricted theatre to watch it
@mcbaws21
@mcbaws21 4 года назад
Rici Mercury “age restricted” america cracks me up lol
@infamousshinkicker6924
@infamousshinkicker6924 4 года назад
@@Matthew_Robert_Vincini yo my homie How do you look like in that scene? I want to find you (not in a weird way). If you want to keep it a secret that's fine.
@knight666mare
@knight666mare 3 года назад
You can't compare them they're not playing the same joker, they're both brilliant in their own way
@clownworldhereticmyron1018
@clownworldhereticmyron1018 4 года назад
Joaquin's performance as Joker was... incredibly relatable, in a bizarre way. I'm mentally ill in different ways from the character he portrayed, but the overarching feelings and shit behind the character hit so close to home. I was crying at some parts and cheering at others. I don't know how """good""" of a movie it is """objectively""", but it moved me, at my core, so in that way I think it's amazing.
@gee.e7644
@gee.e7644 4 года назад
I love how in the beginning of the movie for Joker it starts out slow but as you progress it’s like you are going insane with Arthur.
@allstarpriscilla
@allstarpriscilla 4 года назад
I like/agree with this
@whawha8808
@whawha8808 4 года назад
I almost laughed when he killed the 3 guys on the subway but I stopped myself
@theobserver314
@theobserver314 4 года назад
@@whawha8808 Your comment almost made me laugh.
@jithunair4526
@jithunair4526 4 года назад
True
@janimatics
@janimatics 4 года назад
So true
@scottwall7046
@scottwall7046 4 года назад
Mans choked on Jared leto’s name had me dying 😂😂
@sbs-ds6fz
@sbs-ds6fz 4 года назад
Scott Wall ikr😂
@Hunter-hv3qc
@Hunter-hv3qc 4 года назад
I read this comment as soon as choked 👌😂
@jacquelinestenroos2708
@jacquelinestenroos2708 4 года назад
I looked for this comment as soon as this part of the video played. LMFAO
@deggs429
@deggs429 4 года назад
🤣🤣
@drake9779
@drake9779 4 года назад
"Way shittier script" C'mon man, at this point you are just trying to be edgy
@noahwilliams3075
@noahwilliams3075 4 года назад
"I disagree, therefore it is edgy"
@colasalz2
@colasalz2 4 года назад
well a wanna bee 18 year olf " film geek" who is insulting the 15 year olds, becaus men" he is an adult now"... ... what a joke..
@TheRulerRoderickSutton
@TheRulerRoderickSutton 4 года назад
Y'all probably dont even write screenplays...
@noahwilliams3075
@noahwilliams3075 4 года назад
@@TheRulerRoderickSutton and therefore we arent allowed to criticize them, correct?
@bedicapriochalamet9584
@bedicapriochalamet9584 4 года назад
@@noahwilliams3075 We are allowed to critise despite our abilities but the guy was literally disrespecting the whole crew except phoenix, honestly fucking inconvenient to do that quite unreasonable it was fascinating because the crew did their shit how they were supposed to soooo?
@tothfanni7262
@tothfanni7262 4 года назад
“Todd Philps director of Hangover” is killing me, its so funny how u say it everytime
@unitedstatesdepartmentofsa7718
@unitedstatesdepartmentofsa7718 4 года назад
Heath Ledgers performance is timeless. The fact that we can’t decide who did it better? That’s amazing. Congrats Joaquin. You’ve matched the highest bar.
@starinitalian
@starinitalian 4 года назад
William Easley the fact that people are arguing over who did better means that both performances were priceless
@johnnylaygo1025
@johnnylaygo1025 4 года назад
You only acknowledge Heath because he's dead
@GobbleWobble123
@GobbleWobble123 4 года назад
Johnny Laygo or maybe because the dark knight is one of the best films of all time, largely due to Heath Ledgers performance?
@johnnylaygo1025
@johnnylaygo1025 4 года назад
@MR. ICE get your nostalgic ass outta here
@TheChampionofthepeople
@TheChampionofthepeople 4 года назад
Heath is still better though
@bottomgear3686
@bottomgear3686 4 года назад
The thing is, Joker isn’t set in a modern day Gotham, it’s more 80s, so the film is an origin story, so no, he would not be as terrifying as Heath Ledger’s Joker. Yet.
@tranquilit3
@tranquilit3 4 года назад
Lil Von Cheeto Joaquin’s joker is terrifying more in an uneasy, unsettling way that creeps on your guts, whereas Heath’s was more in an overt way. It’s 2 different portrayals of the character hence i don’t think it’s fair to compare them. Both are great actors
@duhvakiin3467
@duhvakiin3467 4 года назад
Exactly. Heath's Joker was more evolved in the sense that he had truly embraced himself for who he really was for some time whereas Joaquin's Joker shows the character's origin and the journey that leads him to "find himself".
@melancholyism
@melancholyism 4 года назад
exactly. phoenix's joker has yet to delve even deeper into insanity
@oldacc1370
@oldacc1370 4 года назад
If anything Joaquin’s joker scares me more like his laugh really started creeping me out
@bottomgear3686
@bottomgear3686 4 года назад
Glock Capone ikr!
@Triumvirate3
@Triumvirate3 4 года назад
The real difference between Heath and Joaquin is this: Heath inspired awe. Joaquin made us feel some type of way.
@braydenwhite9933
@braydenwhite9933 4 года назад
They’re both so good it’s hard to compare and they perfectly played the joker at different times in his story
@hugoboss6715
@hugoboss6715 4 года назад
People can't agree who was better but I know everyone knows Jared Leto's joker is the worst one
@ansnwang1134
@ansnwang1134 4 года назад
Hugo Boss dude I kinda liked it tho 😭
@TvojaMAMA77
@TvojaMAMA77 4 года назад
true, he ain't bad... but he is definately the worst one out of them all.
@teyriaphillips8908
@teyriaphillips8908 4 года назад
Hugo Boss I liked the jadred Leto's joker but he wasn't the best
@greenman7210
@greenman7210 4 года назад
We all can agree about that xD
@Tom-bn6pr
@Tom-bn6pr 4 года назад
I blamed the movie not so much Leto but given that he’s acted like a pouty child over the Joker movie you lose all sympathy for him
@Sydney-lb7vz
@Sydney-lb7vz 4 года назад
The saddest part of the film for me was when he said "but I love this job" when he got fired from his job at the childrens hospital
@sleeplessend8683
@sleeplessend8683 4 года назад
I agree with this and I couple this when he said “why would I steal a sign?” That made me tear up how sad he said that line...
@BrickWolfy
@BrickWolfy 4 года назад
Pretty sure his job wasnt the childrens hospital, but a clown for hire doing different clown jobs
@kingofgalaxy9061
@kingofgalaxy9061 4 года назад
That entire movie got me sad bro
@Mikol_Billy
@Mikol_Billy 4 года назад
Sleeplessend that part pissed me off cuz the fucking boss asked him the same god damn question “they mugged you for a sign?” Then replies to “why would I steal a sign?” With “why do people do anything?” BRO LISTEN TO YOURSELF
@SomeGuyandanAmbulance
@SomeGuyandanAmbulance 4 года назад
@@BrickWolfy A clown mercenary you might say
@leemcelhenney4550
@leemcelhenney4550 4 года назад
Phoenix's joker gives you an insight of Arthur Fleck's mind and how it works, something other jokers could not accomplish
@joh3628
@joh3628 4 года назад
Heath Ledger: The Joker Joaquin Phoenix: Arthur Fleck
@TotalTech_
@TotalTech_ 4 года назад
1989: Ever dance with the devil in the pale moon light? 2009: Why so Serious? 2019: Can you introduce me as Joker? PS check out my RU-vid channel
@alanbarrios8533
@alanbarrios8533 4 года назад
Nah 2019 should be “ I used to think my life was a tragedy now I realize it’s a comedy
@TotalTech_
@TotalTech_ 4 года назад
And 2016 should be "Oh I'm not going to kill you. I'm just going to hurt you. Really. Really bad
@alexgruszka108
@alexgruszka108 4 года назад
Detective J 2019: We live in a society
@braydenhiggins3790
@braydenhiggins3790 4 года назад
alan barrios but that’s not a question
@danbuter
@danbuter 4 года назад
2019: You get what you fucking deserve.
@Hooga89
@Hooga89 4 года назад
The real difference between the movies for me is this: Heath Ledger's Joker is absolutely great, and it fits the Nolan Batman trilogy perfectly. But do I think that any of the events of the Dark Knight are something that could happen in real life? Not really. Even if their performances are amazing, I never once get the feeling that this is realistic. The new Joker however is unsettling precisely because of the fact that all of it is plausible, which actually is a big part of what makes the narrative terrifying. Just mix some mental illness together with an atomized anti-social culture that doesn't care, and the result is that you get people who will laugh maniacally while they shoot you in the head.
@leylamatyakubova179
@leylamatyakubova179 4 года назад
Hooga agreed!
@robert4155
@robert4155 4 года назад
You're using plausibility as a factor of rating a movie based around a world of superheroes and villains?
@Hooga89
@Hooga89 4 года назад
@@robert4155 But that's the point though. The new Joker proved that it's not just about superheroes and villains. Does a Marvel movie, or the Nolan Trilogy transcend itself in that way? Not really.
@shtokur
@shtokur 4 года назад
I agree. While The Dark Knight was really good with a interesting story and compelling narrative, and of course Heath Ledger's performance was amazing, it's not something you can relate to. Well, you definitely can't relate to a deranged, mental-ill criminal as the Joker is depicted. That being said, I think Joaquin Phoenix's Joker was much more realistic, a story you could see on the news perhaps, and much more relatable than Heath Ledger's Joker, you actually understood Arthur in some way. I think Joaquin Phoenix's Joker takes the cake for me because I love when movies add a touch of realism with creativity, but I still have big respect for Heath Ledger's Joker, and I am not saying that his performance was any better or worse than Joaquin Phoenix.
@the_kovic
@the_kovic 4 года назад
The Dark Knight is a brilliantly written and acted out story. But Joker is a character study, a commentary of society, the portrayal is not only realistic, it's absolutely plausible and that's what makes it so gripping - and so captivating for me. I loved the film, I loved the atmosphere, I loved the performance, I loved the details and I loved the message.
@mfloatingaway
@mfloatingaway 4 года назад
I disliked this video on principle. Mostly I agreed, but “shittier script” and “it was okay” just pushed me over the edge. (2 years since I commented this. I now kinda agree with him lmao).
@vntalgic
@vntalgic 4 года назад
Mia Darlington same
@ghostlyanimations3460
@ghostlyanimations3460 4 года назад
SAME!
@juliabarrosmachado47
@juliabarrosmachado47 4 года назад
He is right though
@ashtonb7931
@ashtonb7931 4 года назад
J M nah
@scifinerd17
@scifinerd17 4 года назад
Chava I think a good reason for why the dialogue sounds so simplistic and the supporting characters of the film seem one-dimensional is for the reason that most of the movie takes place inside Arthur Fleck’s head. It’s all told through his perspective and it’s just his version of how things’ve happened. When he’s at that insane asylum he’s reflecting back on what’s happened before.
@elongatemuskatorus6694
@elongatemuskatorus6694 4 года назад
I mean in Joker, Joker was only joker for like 15 minutes, whereas in dark knight Joker had been a criminal master mind for quite a while
@poopbaby
@poopbaby 4 года назад
That's because the movie, Joker, is Arthur Fleck slowly progressing into madness. Keyword, *slowly.* You don't become mentally insane in one day.
@Stak0
@Stak0 4 года назад
Phoenix: Best representation of Joker’s psyche Ledger: Best representation of Joker’s idealism
@TheKingDagon108
@TheKingDagon108 4 года назад
Well said
@DeepScreenAnalysis
@DeepScreenAnalysis 4 года назад
Ledger's Joker is not an idealist, he's a nihilist. Believers in chaos don't have ideals, they believe everything is meaningless.
@petersmittens6222
@petersmittens6222 4 года назад
@@DeepScreenAnalysis I think what he meant was ideology
@manthedan4828
@manthedan4828 4 года назад
Train Joker: Best Joker.
@mohamed_Alili14
@mohamed_Alili14 4 года назад
tht's it
@agamikarma3683
@agamikarma3683 4 года назад
ledger : psycho criminal with psychotic ideas and motive Phoenix : depressed , distrubing and dark reality of this world Jared leto : cosplay of joker
@BassBrothersMusic
@BassBrothersMusic 4 года назад
wait jared leto played joker? i thought he was ur average middle school kid
@alicelemieux531
@alicelemieux531 4 года назад
Jared Leto literally just dyed his hair green and thought it would be enough and that I he didn’t needed to be a good actor lmao
@jacktilghman9797
@jacktilghman9797 4 года назад
Which is really disappointing, because Jared Leto has done some brilliant acting in the past. @@alicelemieux531
@mitorikawashiro2962
@mitorikawashiro2962 4 года назад
What about Hamil and Nicholson?
@WhyTho525
@WhyTho525 3 года назад
@@mitorikawashiro2962 Hamill : - Cartoonish supervillain (in the Animated Series) - Perfect archnemesis for the Batman (in the Arkham Games) Nicholson: - Charismatic, extravagant but psychotic gangster
@a.t.v3519
@a.t.v3519 4 года назад
Let’s not forget even Todd Phillips (the director of Joker) said he might not even be THE joker we know and love. So they are probably playing different characters. Still, in their level of acting, they both are outstanding!!
@Xx-willtide
@Xx-willtide 4 года назад
Heath Ledger: the best Joker Joaquin Phoenix: the best Arthur Fleck
@destroyerofmorons
@destroyerofmorons 3 года назад
Theres only one Arthur thats a dumbass comment just say Ledger is better lmao
@ET-yc4wb
@ET-yc4wb 3 года назад
@@destroyerofmorons but we don’t really see ledger as arthur. He is THE joker from the beginning till the end of dark knight. He changes his backstory for other ppl, indicating that he is one single identity, he can be anyone, he is a symbol of evil. Pheonix on the other hand is one person, with depression, anxiety, and other mental issues. He is ARTHUR FLECK. It is not until the end of the film that he becomes a symbol. So, while phenoix is arthur fleck, ladger is the symbol that we see arthur become. I definitely agree that noone can outclass ledger performance, but the two actors cannot really be compared, as they are two different persona’s
@destroyerofmorons
@destroyerofmorons 3 года назад
@@ET-yc4wb Ledger isn’t even Arthur! Not all Jokers are Arthur Fleck, and I guarantee the joker in the dark knight isnt. So like I said, there’s only 1 Fleck, so obviously he has to be the best one. He literally would’ve been better off just saying Joaquin is the best joker. I strongly disagree with that but at least it makes sense
@ChuckD008
@ChuckD008 4 года назад
Also, funnily enough, if Phoenix wins Best Actor, it'll be two actors winning for technically the same role. Also, DC/WB will get REALLY cocky about the character (as if they weren't already)
@Lauren_210
@Lauren_210 4 года назад
Something similar like that happened with Marlon Brando and Robert De Niro where both of them won Best Actor/Supporting Actor for the same role as Vito Corleone (though Marlon Brando refused his Oscar win).
@infamousshinkicker6924
@infamousshinkicker6924 4 года назад
@@Lauren_210 woaaaah He refused his Oscar? Why?
@shmebulock7
@shmebulock7 4 года назад
HolyTHOT Begoner Because of the Vietnam war he boycotted the oscars
@ashleywilkerson1538
@ashleywilkerson1538 4 года назад
HolyTHOT Begoner he was boycotting the event due to Hollywood’s depiction of native Americans in film and TV. He didn’t even go to the event and sent a Native American woman to decline it on his behalf. You can look up the video of Brando’s speech on RU-vid.
@infamousshinkicker6924
@infamousshinkicker6924 4 года назад
Thank you both for telling me this. I just watched the Native American lady at the Oscars and the interview with Marlon Brando.
@shadowninja958
@shadowninja958 4 года назад
Joaquin Phoenix doesn’t play as Joker so comparing the two isn’t fair. He plays as Arthur Fleck.
@dot.7475
@dot.7475 4 года назад
well yes for the entire movie up until the muray scene thats when he becomes joker
@kimjisoosthighsaremylife5679
@kimjisoosthighsaremylife5679 4 года назад
Forgotten Syrup the ambulance crashing into the police car scenes symbolises the death of arthur fleck
@kayozzy
@kayozzy 4 года назад
He becomes the Joker tho
@Mimi-qw7lz
@Mimi-qw7lz 4 года назад
true
@sumeya1923
@sumeya1923 4 года назад
Yeah it shows how he could have been a normal guy if people weren’t the way the were
@elitedima9672
@elitedima9672 4 года назад
Heath is legend. No one can beat him Black panther is overrated trash btw
@mkg1097
@mkg1097 4 года назад
prepare for death
@puffy_jr7521
@puffy_jr7521 3 года назад
Black panther was pretty good ngl
@elitedima9672
@elitedima9672 3 года назад
@@puffy_jr7521 Black panther is one of the most overrated and worst films in MCU, along with Captain marvel, Guardians of Galaxy 1&2, Spiderman Homecoming, Spiderman Far from Home, and Avengers Endgame. The only selling point was all-black cast. It is easy to bait stupid mainstream "woke" audience with political correctness elements. The story is plain ripoff Lion King, which was also ripoff Japanese animation. Ulysses klaue was good villain, but main villain was very boring, bland and forgettable. And his excuse is very stupid.
@tiffanycurtis4794
@tiffanycurtis4794 4 года назад
HEATH IS CLAPPING IN HEAVEN HE WOULD BE PROUD OF JOAQUIN THEY BOTH DID GOOD LETO ON THE OTHER HAND IS A JOKE😂😂😂
@c0ntra605
@c0ntra605 4 года назад
joker character: *exists* RU-vid video essayists: *salivating*
@jeremystubbs1980
@jeremystubbs1980 4 года назад
*2008:* Iron Man, The Dark Knight *2012:* The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises *2019:* Avengers Endgame, Joker
@VarsitySniper
@VarsitySniper 4 года назад
didnt dark knight come out in 09?
@channe3049
@channe3049 4 года назад
@@VarsitySniper It came out in the summer of 2008.
@abialston8476
@abialston8476 4 года назад
idk why it took me this long to realize avengers and dark knight rises came out in the same gear
@mikeymichael9991
@mikeymichael9991 4 года назад
Why you comparing Saturday morning Disney / marvel ...cartoons to great movies ?
@DimentioDemente
@DimentioDemente 4 года назад
@@mikeymichael9991 Because DC's Cinematic Universe exists to bring fear for those who liked their good movies (Not hating on DC, but Marvel easily wins in the movie aspect, also, Joker was pretty good.)
@stayfitrideanimal
@stayfitrideanimal 3 года назад
Love the soft jazz in the background of the video.
@MarcoVideoVibes
@MarcoVideoVibes 4 года назад
Broooooo!!! love your style..great storytelling in your video. so happy that i've found your channel. keep up the amazing work !!!
@saulgoodman8788
@saulgoodman8788 4 года назад
well but to be fair, Phoenix's Joker was only present at the final part of the film, the rest was Arthur Fleck.
@dcdrizzz3041
@dcdrizzz3041 4 года назад
Right, and in the last few moments after the first shot on the show he felt exactly like the Joker. Completely unhinged, yet in full control.
@jacobhogan380
@jacobhogan380 4 года назад
DCDriZZZ that is true but the movie was about the making of joker
@berain8917
@berain8917 4 года назад
You absolutely right.
@zakfrancis5352
@zakfrancis5352 4 года назад
gorilla yeah it was a slow start and then it was a character development but I would’ve liked to see more time of him as the joker
@DripBilly
@DripBilly 4 года назад
I feel like all that character development made worth it to see Joker in the end.
@SofaKing880
@SofaKing880 4 года назад
I really feel like they are two different characters. Heath Ledger=mastermind of manipulation and chaos. Phoenix=genuinely damaged man driven into psychosis by his environment.
@stasheman8920
@stasheman8920 3 года назад
Society
@4zafinc
@4zafinc 2 года назад
@@stasheman8920 F
@priestof1s
@priestof1s 2 года назад
Agreed, Phoenix though was so so so so sad you could honestly see him turn into maybe what ledger played. Phoenix though was just something that hit like no other movie made.
@roreythemadgod
@roreythemadgod 2 года назад
@@priestof1s if you think this please please please check out 'King of Comedy' Joker is basically a less good version of King of Comedy
@zelda7059
@zelda7059 2 года назад
What do you mean by psychosis?
@_Mark41
@_Mark41 4 года назад
I'd like to think that Phoenix's Joker is Heath ledger's father
@melissam597
@melissam597 4 года назад
I actually like that!
@mustachecontroller1096
@mustachecontroller1096 4 года назад
More like Joaquin father is heath ledger
@aurelien5747
@aurelien5747 4 года назад
Mustache Controller nah cause Joker is like in the 80s and TDK is close to now
@trulyz9750
@trulyz9750 4 года назад
aurelien 57 you’re not wrong there
@mufasasounds1765
@mufasasounds1765 4 года назад
No i think Joaquin joker is heath joker young version....we see how arthur became joker in the past...heath is present joker
@scottm9010
@scottm9010 4 года назад
Heath’s was far superior. What he accomplished was more impressive. This isn’t a knock on Phoenix he was also very good.
@c4rlitos256
@c4rlitos256 2 года назад
If Heath didn’t kill himself and was still living you’ll say Phoenix was better💀
@thankyoujodi
@thankyoujodi 2 года назад
@@c4rlitos256 "we live in a society" that thinks Joaquin's was better than Heath. 🤔 lmao
@battleupsaber462
@battleupsaber462 4 года назад
Depends on which one lives in a Society
@Bruh-fc9dv
@Bruh-fc9dv 4 года назад
we live in a society
@monetizedyay6827
@monetizedyay6827 4 года назад
@@Bruh-fc9dv Gamers rise up
@ghostofpop
@ghostofpop 4 года назад
@@Bruh-fc9dv bottom *T E X T*
@Bruh-fc9dv
@Bruh-fc9dv 4 года назад
See gaming as you know is... Like air! I need it. To live. AAAAAHAHahahahahaHAHAHhhhhhhh
@SydneyDolores
@SydneyDolores 4 года назад
I'm gonna harass women and minorities
@VDL1
@VDL1 4 года назад
"All you 15 year olds wearing gym shorts to bed" Me at 19 years old: *looks down at gym shorts* wtf
@simonwhitlock2yearsago296
@simonwhitlock2yearsago296 4 года назад
Same man I'm 19 wearing these air force pt shorts to bed like the head ass that I am
@nocturnal7345
@nocturnal7345 4 года назад
Rene Huels Not gym shorts, but I'm wearing basketball shorts 😂
@malayman3023
@malayman3023 4 года назад
I'm currently wearing gym shorts and I just died
@spookyskyes7661
@spookyskyes7661 4 года назад
LOL MOOD
@bmg9154
@bmg9154 4 года назад
it’s so comfortable tho
@MindfulMya
@MindfulMya 4 года назад
Your review was a little underwhelming. I felt that both performances are amazing. You also missed out on the cultural implications and sign of the times because JOKER the character in general and the film is a masterpiece commentary on humanity and the decline. While it does take place in a comic book setting it has real-world implications that speak to mental illness, compassion and wealth/greed cutting funding for real help. Additionally, there is the systemic portion...good start.
@nasanoir310
@nasanoir310 Год назад
Joker is way more than "fine". This movie has aged better than any other movie from that year, except maybe Parasite. Everything about it is so iconic and high quality, there is not one thing I would change. The acting, the cinematography, the screenplay, the directing, the plot premise, etc., it's all amazing and all perfect. And performance wise, Joaquin should have one. And at this point, it has had more sustainability.
@sidx328
@sidx328 4 года назад
Heath Ledger: "I am an agent of chaos" Joaquin Phoenix: "All I have are negative thoughts"
@GellertTV
@GellertTV 4 года назад
@@anib18 You're stupid
@Azrue
@Azrue 4 года назад
@@GellertTV yo don't be so fckin toxic. Its his opinion you dumbass
@co9221
@co9221 3 года назад
That line from Joker was agonisingly relatable
@ducanhnguyen6197
@ducanhnguyen6197 3 года назад
Joaquin's Joker is actually so shallow
@nefbrite6866
@nefbrite6866 3 года назад
@@ducanhnguyen6197 ok
@ber2704
@ber2704 4 года назад
i, as a fifteen year old in gym shorts, was personally tormented by your call out
@joshuabiery
@joshuabiery 4 года назад
Same
@ashritperepu4143
@ashritperepu4143 4 года назад
Yeah same here bro
@sludgerat666
@sludgerat666 4 года назад
💪
@aname959
@aname959 4 года назад
Both were amazing
@gorotms
@gorotms 3 года назад
Really good and level headed review. A job well done. Keep up the good work. And I just subscribed.. ;)
@SilverBlO0d
@SilverBlO0d 4 года назад
I feel like you didn't understand how much Joker deeply reaches the unspoken levels of mental health. That movie is a masterpiece and deserves way more than an 'okay' rating.
@MadeByIsmael
@MadeByIsmael 4 года назад
Just because the joker had a message on mental health doesn't make it more enjoyable. Don't get me wrong i enjoyed the joker. There was nothing blatantly wrong with it. But there also weren't many things that were "AMAZING". this movie was hard carried by Joaquins acting. It's still an enjoyable experience so it gets a 7.5/10 from me
@Gator4155
@Gator4155 4 года назад
@@MadeByIsmael Agreed. A mediocre performance by Joaquin would have decreased the quality of this movie immensely. It seems as though everything in this movie was written around and for him and he had to be the one to pull it over the top which is a ton of pressure on one person. But he did it masterfully.
@lovelyd2929
@lovelyd2929 4 года назад
TOTALLY AGREEEE!!😔✊🏼✨THE MOVIE WAS FUCKING DOPE.And deep...
@jimpickens2435
@jimpickens2435 4 года назад
Ismael Hernandez Look. As someone who grew up with Health Ledgers joker, and practically worshipped the movie, I can see where you’re coming from. He did an amazing job as joker. That being said, I like Joaquin Phoenix’s joker more purely because of the fact that I think he was a better actor. Does that mean you have to agree with me? Absolutely not. You see, the core of the issue is the age difference/demographic. If they remade Harry Potter/Star wars and it was super good, the people who watched the original films (us) will be biased because of nostalgia, and will most likely be swayed towards the original films instead of the remakes. This is primarily why these type of (who was better) discussions don’t go anywhere, because people already have their minds made
@Sarpa.
@Sarpa. 4 года назад
It’s deserves “above average” and Ledger’s is great
@happystickman7255
@happystickman7255 4 года назад
I’m literally 15 and wear gym shorts to bed lmao
@tensei3520
@tensei3520 4 года назад
Same im 16
@MrBaller3
@MrBaller3 4 года назад
James same
@EpicthedogYT
@EpicthedogYT 4 года назад
im 17 and do not wear gym shorts to bed
@Trolleyfox
@Trolleyfox 4 года назад
Fuck same 😂😂😂
@Leaked-ke2zv
@Leaked-ke2zv 4 года назад
Happy Stickman I mean who doesn't
@chloe54251
@chloe54251 4 года назад
i feel like Phoenix's joker was more unsettling than scary while Ledger was just terrifying
@wutguycreations
@wutguycreations 3 года назад
I prefer Heath Ledger's personally, but Phoenix's Joker really hits you deep. I feel like the Joker movie was really to show how he got his scars, but this time, they're emotional scars
@danielatkins4786
@danielatkins4786 4 года назад
The music of this movie is so good. It wasn’t just the main character.
@ploopy2782
@ploopy2782 4 года назад
Daniel Atkins It was absolutely perfect. Especially That’s Life being played throughout the movie, only to finish the lyrics at the end. I loved it.
@nmndza
@nmndza 4 года назад
if anyone says Jared Leto is the best Joker.... ...you can leave
@gamigross
@gamigross 4 года назад
Jared Leto is the best Joker At being terrible
@nmndza
@nmndza 4 года назад
gami gato ⓎⒺⓈ
@WYKLO
@WYKLO 4 года назад
@@BatziBoah but they agreed with it...
@teyriaphillips8908
@teyriaphillips8908 4 года назад
Fernando_ he not the best but he is the sexiest 🤷🏾‍♀️
@kingzekrom6399
@kingzekrom6399 4 года назад
I'mma defend Jared Leto by saying he got an absolute shitty script in the dumpster fire that was Suicide Squad
@channelname8581
@channelname8581 4 года назад
This is literally one of the best movies I’ve seen
@pow3r17
@pow3r17 4 года назад
for me, Phoenix wins because he did it alone whitout the counter part that Jokrr needs...Batman....for that i am more imppresed by his joker
@justsomerandom1986
@justsomerandom1986 3 года назад
Well it's kinda interesting how people love Heath's joker than the Batman. We haven't seen how they love Joaquin's joker than Batman in the same movie. So it's too early to compare them.
@jimjam7928
@jimjam7928 2 года назад
In my opinion, the Joker can't really exist without Batman, and as a result it didn't really feel like Phoenix was actually playing the Joker. Terrific performance, obviously, but the writing for the film just didn't really understand what makes the the character.
@c4rlitos256
@c4rlitos256 2 года назад
@Jim Jam My man, did you even watch the movie?💀wdym you don’t know what the meaning of the joker in the movie was
@tabatharuby339
@tabatharuby339 4 года назад
I watch the dark knight only because of Joker tbh.
@gencij5175
@gencij5175 4 года назад
Tabatha Ruby me too
@alexissellers2147
@alexissellers2147 4 года назад
i think everyone does
@CJKpoprox
@CJKpoprox 4 года назад
Ever since young i've always thought batman was a joke lol
@polaroid_people4676
@polaroid_people4676 4 года назад
He only had like 38 minutes in the whole movie yet somehow stole the show
@adriang155
@adriang155 4 года назад
Yeah. It felt too long and drawn out.
@msstephanie726
@msstephanie726 4 года назад
“Like Mark Hamil and Cesar Romero and *gagging sounds* “
@RevJ7
@RevJ7 4 года назад
That's a weird reaction to superiority. You haters be dumb af. Read a comic.
@dumpling3534
@dumpling3534 4 года назад
I was honestly wheezing at that point 😂😭😂😂😂😂😂
@msstephanie726
@msstephanie726 4 года назад
@@RevJ7 Buddy if you think Jared Leto as the joker was superiority, you need a doctor.
@kevingiovanno1177
@kevingiovanno1177 4 года назад
@@RevJ7 ummm.. i read the comic, and still think Jared Leto's joker is a dumb as fvck
@noahwilliams3075
@noahwilliams3075 4 года назад
@@RevJ7 Jared Letos joker is horrible shut the fuck up
@youmaycallmecath
@youmaycallmecath 3 года назад
I really liked Phoenix's joker, but, as he said himself in interviews, Heath Ledger's joker is unrivaled. I don't think there ever will be a more iconic performance for this character.
@ginkgothestink-o6949
@ginkgothestink-o6949 4 года назад
The last time a movie influenced me so profoundly was One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, and that was years ago. Joker is a very visceral film. I can’t really describe it but I do know that I love it. I just can’t stop thinking about it.
@someguystudios9174
@someguystudios9174 4 года назад
Anyone still waiting for The Lighthouse to come out for us to praise Willem Dafoe?
@savannahlevy97
@savannahlevy97 4 года назад
(points at profile pic) why would you do that to yourself
@josh.0220
@josh.0220 4 года назад
Whyd you spill yer beansss
@hchappy125
@hchappy125 4 года назад
SomeGuyStudios ....what?
@infamousshinkicker6924
@infamousshinkicker6924 4 года назад
Lmao why just Dafoe, there are. 2 actors in the movie, right? I also heard that it is Dafoes and Pattinsons best performance.
@luuketaylor
@luuketaylor 4 года назад
It's not coming to the Busan Film Festival in October. I'm gutted. It's one of my most anticipated movies of the year!
@Samuel-qe9lj
@Samuel-qe9lj 4 года назад
Heath ledger stole the show, Joaquin have to carry the whole movie... it’s actually hard to compare
@notmyfirst
@notmyfirst 4 года назад
Joaquin is the main character? That's kind of what you expect the main character to do
@okay207
@okay207 4 года назад
@@notmyfirst I think you missed the point.
@flamingravenmc4058
@flamingravenmc4058 4 года назад
Well the joker movie is a worse movie than dark night anyway
@adriang155
@adriang155 4 года назад
@@flamingravenmc4058 The joker movie may be worse, but Pheonix is a better portrayal of the joker
@EMPtaticz
@EMPtaticz 4 года назад
@@flamingravenmc4058 its so much better then dark knight lmfao
@BostonMBrand
@BostonMBrand 3 года назад
I think when it comes to the Six major Joker portrayals, they can all be summarized in a single sentence or a couple. Romero is the trickster, clown like Joker. He’s enjoys silly pranks and fun. Nicholson is the mafia-gangster joker. Hamill is the Joker fully formed. Depending on where he appears, whether it be in the animated universe or a video game, he embodies every interpretation in some form or another, giving off a character defining performance. Ledger is the 21st Century’s Joker, or at least the early 2000’s interpretation. He embodies much of the nihilism and terror that existed in a post 9/11 world, but he does it in a way that is poetic, timeless, and terrifying. Leto is kind of the edgy, hot topic joker. While this might be in due part because of studio interference, his joker is much like that of a teenage boy’s idea of the joker. Phoenix’s Joker is more tragic and disturbing. While being a Joker we can sympathize with more, he is also deeply disconnected and could erupt at any moment.
@scombs6543
@scombs6543 4 года назад
Romaro: Campy Nicholson: Iconic Hamill: THE Joker Ledger: Scary Phoenix: Sympathetic Leto: Joke
@kolamoose8717
@kolamoose8717 4 года назад
And they all work for the movies/tv their in Romaro is campy in a campy show and Leto is a joke in a joke of a movie
@thomasstull868
@thomasstull868 4 года назад
Joker has a "Shittier script" highly highly highly disagree.
@mmartinez1441
@mmartinez1441 4 года назад
thomas stull Honestly. If anything, it’s one of the best that I’ve seen to be honest
@vaskopoh9512
@vaskopoh9512 4 года назад
@@mmartinez1441 its a simple script thoe
@funkguylorz7315
@funkguylorz7315 4 года назад
Vasko Pohlupkov But it’s acted and shot so well that the actors enhance the script in a way that it becomes masterful. This movie is a perfect representation of that.
@jadaperineau7511
@jadaperineau7511 4 года назад
@@vaskopoh9512 simplicity doesn't mean that it's bad tho. It just makes room for other cinematc tools such as camera work, music, cinematography, etc. It also allows greater emphasis on the actor's acting......which was brilliant if I do say so myself.
@vaskopoh9512
@vaskopoh9512 4 года назад
@@jadaperineau7511 yeah but it's still a less superior script that's shot and acted as you said
@myrnacaraig2681
@myrnacaraig2681 4 года назад
Phoenix's Joker: More on Joker as a Lunatic. Ledger's Joker: More on Joker as a Criminal Mastermind.
@codvanguard2992
@codvanguard2992 4 года назад
“And it was fine” *gives a 7/10* ..... yeah, your crazy this film is easily a 10/10.
@ArezinaM
@ArezinaM 4 года назад
No it is not put idk infinity war next to this movie i don't think joker is compared to infinity war i mean the movie was good but there are also a lot boring scenes
@lovecraftminusthexenophobi4128
@lovecraftminusthexenophobi4128 4 года назад
@@ArezinaM Say sike right now
@endofthebeginning6964
@endofthebeginning6964 4 года назад
It was a bang average film
@ArezinaM
@ArezinaM 4 года назад
@@yo-gl6df i don't like marvel
@elitedima9672
@elitedima9672 4 года назад
Sha Billz yeah this is not exactly 10/10 film because your opinion is irrelevant I mean, just look at your grammar dude...you can't even spell "you're" right, fucking moron. Go to hell.
@apharys8921
@apharys8921 4 года назад
Heath Ledger’s: A comic book character made real. Joaquin Phoenix’s: A real character. Phoenix’s Joker lacks the intellect to be a criminal mastermind as well as humor to be honest, he’s just a really messed up guy who was pushed too far, more like a wannabe Joker than anything. I loved the movie even more than The Dark Knight, his character just seems like a totally different person. He’s sad, awkward and pathetic, motivated by justice/vengeance, caring more about doing something to be noticed rather than for a laugh. It’s difficult to compare the two because they’re very different characters and both are brilliant. Ledger’s is more what you would expect of the Joker, Phoenix’s is much more real and weighty. And I didn’t see Suicide Squad but Leto’s Joker strikes me as more of an edgy angsty teen than anything, trying way too hard rather than just “being”. But apparently that whole movie was lackluster, maybe his Joker could have been better with a different script, idk.
@gravesidepoet5405
@gravesidepoet5405 3 года назад
Being hard to compare dosent negate the ability to do so.
@celestialknight1592
@celestialknight1592 4 года назад
Me, 18 years old: *looks down at my gym shorts while laying in bed* “oh...”
@bEST.Dignity
@bEST.Dignity 4 года назад
who doesn’t wear gym shorts in bed ?
@RicerSubes
@RicerSubes 4 года назад
House of YAHWEH ..me😞
@-angelp
@-angelp 3 года назад
bro same
@abhishakesubedi9126
@abhishakesubedi9126 4 года назад
Heath ledger : agent of chaos Joaquin phoenix : source of chaos
@ianlongo9037
@ianlongo9037 4 года назад
Holy shit, I was looking for the best description and you described them perfectly with 3 words for each. How tf
@tiayvette2048
@tiayvette2048 4 года назад
Abhishake Subedi👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽the evolution of joker
@WhyDizzy
@WhyDizzy 4 года назад
Jared leto:????(insert something funny)
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 4 года назад
A no Grey Night, just Black Knight...
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 4 года назад
I swear this Joker battle would just be another Toby Maguire vs Tom Holland debate within 3 months
@Clickbait86
@Clickbait86 2 года назад
Watching the dark knight in theaters back in 2008 was an experience. I was fun when lil kids started crying cause of the joker, it was kinda scary tho🤣
@kachiggamybigga9481
@kachiggamybigga9481 2 года назад
Tell us more.
@anddsheshere__
@anddsheshere__ 4 года назад
I just like how NO ONE is saying if one is better than the other. It’s honestly just because you can’t really compare the two because they are so different with everything except for the makeup and name. 😂 both are equally as good, the character and the actor whom played them lol ok from recently just watching both of the jokers right after each other.... i retract all of my statements and believe heath’s joker is the fuckin best. imagine if he had his own little movie of him causing terror in gotham. it would have honestly been the best. 🗿
@demosthenesva
@demosthenesva 4 года назад
The only thing they have similar is their name. Heath's makeup is more like warpaint to cause fear while Phoenix's makeup is more showman-esque.
@anddsheshere__
@anddsheshere__ 4 года назад
Dead_Ins!de 04 but nevertheless both makeups resemble a clown. 💀 i get what you mean tho, i wanted to point that out at first, but I felt like it was gonna be too much lol
@anddsheshere__
@anddsheshere__ 4 года назад
Dylan LeCroy just say you like action packed films more and just go 💀💀 im kidding. its really hard, once again, to ever compare the two. me personally i liked both just as much even tho it was soo diff. i dont kno how people can just choose a fav tbh 😭
@aidani4633
@aidani4633 4 года назад
babygurl__ Heath’s Joker was better though.
@ianchufani1255
@ianchufani1255 4 года назад
Totally agree with this video 👏🏻👏🏻
@roodierivera
@roodierivera 4 года назад
short and sweet
@hendryzardmargapala8390
@hendryzardmargapala8390 4 года назад
Heath ledger : legend Joaquin phoenix : from zero to super villian I love both
@juliosifuentes6499
@juliosifuentes6499 4 года назад
Heath ledgers joker wasn't legendary, he just got hyped because he died. Would you people stop. Smh
@theoverlord3937
@theoverlord3937 4 года назад
Alex Brook i think he meant from the perspective of their joker’s character arcs.
@jeda7343
@jeda7343 4 года назад
@@juliosifuentes6499 Wtf bro Heath's Joker is the best Joker. Joaquin's performance is up there with Heath's performance.
@juliosifuentes6499
@juliosifuentes6499 4 года назад
@@jeda7343 Heath's joker was great, not amazing like it is hyped, his voice sounds too pretentious to start off with, but i will say this, something we can all agree on, heaths joker is on a god tear level when compared to the disaster of jared lettos joker.
@Jordan-vr7ip
@Jordan-vr7ip 4 года назад
@@juliosifuentes6499 Um you obviously havnt seen the previous films Heath acted in, this was why everyone thought it was funny and weird that he got cast to play joker, then when he finally came on screen you literally could not tell it was Heath Ledger, indication that his absolutely smashed the role beyond expecations.
@vihaanle3010
@vihaanle3010 4 года назад
Ok, but what about Creed from The Office?
@alteredbeastafterme7576
@alteredbeastafterme7576 4 года назад
Cmon Kevin brought the character to life fight me lol
@howdyman5961
@howdyman5961 4 года назад
ok_ Zeppelin “Damn it Creed...I’ve been up since 4”
@Tatiianita7
@Tatiianita7 4 года назад
LMAOOOO HAHAHAHAH omfg
@captainpetrson5812
@captainpetrson5812 4 года назад
Hugh Mungus “let’s put a smile on that face” - Creed Bratton
@leylamatyakubova179
@leylamatyakubova179 4 года назад
Omg yessssss another fan hahahhaha
@tritone11
@tritone11 4 года назад
The Joker Ledger created is made for a movie like The Dark Knight. It wouldn’t work for a a lead in a full movie. Ledgers Joker is like a 3D looking object on an actual two-dimensional canvas (action movie). There isn’t more to the character than what you saw, but Ledger masterfully made it feel like there is. Phoenix’ Joker looks 3D and turns out to be 4D or 5D. There is SO much depth and humanity which in turn amplifies the darkness.
@isaacviard1095
@isaacviard1095 4 года назад
Your review of this movie is a 10/10, you did a fine job
@looksfuntoplay5362
@looksfuntoplay5362 4 года назад
Just watched it, we need sequel where joaquin phoenix went full joker.
@RJR1787
@RJR1787 4 года назад
I just watched it too but I disagree about a sequel. Pheonix was absolutely superb as the joker and I can't see it being topped in a sequel. Simply brilliant acting performance.
@lerayanvert
@lerayanvert 4 года назад
No need for sequel
@alexissellers2147
@alexissellers2147 4 года назад
agreed
@internallyscreaming2788
@internallyscreaming2788 4 года назад
Don’t need sequel Joker is already hauntingly beautiful as it is.
@Axel-ye8tt
@Axel-ye8tt 4 года назад
「Internally Screaming」 stfu we need a full joker movie
@diogocosta1305
@diogocosta1305 4 года назад
my favourite Joker is still Heath Ledger's Joker but Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is also pretty amazing
@yxngsanz2181
@yxngsanz2181 2 года назад
Joaquin Phoenix was the worst joker. Even Jared Leto could do better. There was no action, he didn’t fight anyone and had bad weaponry. Overall, Heath Ledger was the best joker and Joaquin Phoenix was the worst joker.
@diogocosta1305
@diogocosta1305 2 года назад
@@yxngsanz2181 you clearly are clueless and clearly did not understand what the movie was about and since when did any Joker have loads of action scenes?
@yxngsanz2181
@yxngsanz2181 2 года назад
@@diogocosta1305 In the dark knight there were loads of action scenes with batman and the joker. R.I.P Heath Ledger though.
@beastralian
@beastralian 2 года назад
@@yxngsanz2181 You're super ignorant
@elisanderson5755
@elisanderson5755 4 года назад
Your getting so many joker headlines cuz of cookies, once u read one, they start giving u more
@konzzo1525
@konzzo1525 4 года назад
I know joker is meant to be crazy badass guy, who have charm and you fear him, but I really like much more this new view of the joker
@zakimaqsood7258
@zakimaqsood7258 4 года назад
Everyone has its own taste. Someone will like phoenix and someone will like ledger. Personally, I think I gonna enjoy phoenix more
@rugerred8659
@rugerred8659 4 года назад
I think phoenix had a better angle, better laugh and was more relatable
@oldanev8254
@oldanev8254 4 года назад
Same
@franco6674
@franco6674 4 года назад
@@rugerred8659 bruh that's the most dumbest thing i hheard duhhhhh Joaquin Phoenix' joker is the main character and the story was build around him so obviously he has more angle and he is built to be relatable unlike Heath who's main aim is to mess up Batman and his moral views and the dark knight was not his movie but i guess if only if only heath did not die there is no debate because he will nail it so hard but that's the beauty of movies there is always a what if
@michaeldavid5252
@michaeldavid5252 4 года назад
@@franco6674 chill the fuck out, dude lmao, it's just an opinion.
@Jordan-vr7ip
@Jordan-vr7ip 4 года назад
@@michaeldavid5252 well fuck your opinion
@mcgyverlouw8482
@mcgyverlouw8482 4 года назад
Man I nearly died when he choked on Jared Let's name
@sug.4481
@sug.4481 3 года назад
BRO THIS DUDE MAD FUNNY😭😭😭
@holy_shoot_hole2748
@holy_shoot_hole2748 4 года назад
When i get kids I’m showing them both of these movies
@tommyboy1986
@tommyboy1986 4 года назад
Imagine Joaquin as joker with Nolan directing....
@dungeon-wn4gw
@dungeon-wn4gw 4 года назад
Paul Thomas Anderson directing...
@imtusharrajput
@imtusharrajput 4 года назад
Give Thodd a chance
@aaronchun8433
@aaronchun8433 4 года назад
Dude....
@notmyfirst
@notmyfirst 4 года назад
@DC The Eyepoke Champ have you even seen the movie?
@notmyfirst
@notmyfirst 4 года назад
this movie is better than dark knight soo
@Riteshkrpanda
@Riteshkrpanda 4 года назад
Imagine giving Heath Ledger a solo Joker film 🔥...... I am sure No one would be talking about another actor to even think about playing as joker
@ernaherlina8014
@ernaherlina8014 4 года назад
I don't think Ledger would sustain the same screen presence and depth if he has a solo Joker film. No matter how much love I have for Ledger, IMHO Joaquin is still the better actor overall.
@Riteshkrpanda
@Riteshkrpanda 4 года назад
@@ernaherlina8014 without comparing with Joaquin, Heath could give us a great joker movie. And then we would not been talking who would play joker better..... But yes Joaquin is a fantastic joker in his own way but the story of the film could be better
@mustachecontroller1096
@mustachecontroller1096 4 года назад
@Erna Herlina heath is based on the comic version and Joaquin is based on reality both did amazing
@Riteshkrpanda
@Riteshkrpanda 3 года назад
@@OrangeUtan1 I am assuming you understood what i was trying to say either that or you're stupid
@WyWid
@WyWid 3 года назад
If Heath had his own movie. It would be over kill with his part. Nolan uses Heath in the dark knight the lerfwxt amount of time. I’ll give it to Heath ledger as the better joker. Joaquin is maybe more dramatic but ledgers was once in a lifetime
@sirwranwrap6228
@sirwranwrap6228 4 года назад
The hangover is a phenomenal film
@freddice8156
@freddice8156 3 года назад
i like how you choked when you about to say jared leghghgokk
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