Biggest problems to metals health is oxygen, but it really depends on the metal and its properties. You can't threat every metal the same, by doing that you would mentally damage them as well. Each one is special and we need to understand that.
Yup, the best part was that Robert de Niro literally played himself. He was legit like that irl. Still is afaik. I think it was done intentionally as a jab. I just love how they immediately say that it would incite ''incel'' violence...the movie had almost nothing to do with hating women...what the fuck? So he killed his mother who was the reason he was fucked in the first place...and? Not like he knew who abused him besides her.
@@entasis704 De Niro is a dick and that was the point of him playing Murray. It was a jab. That is what I heard at least. And have you ever met the guy? No, and that should not be a teller. Look at him in interviews, on social media and whatever, he is not a nice person. He would TOTALLY be like Murray irl if he could and wanted to.
@@Misanthropolis A friend of mine served him his wine more than once in a palace in Paris, it's funny because he never described him in the stupid way you do. You have to be low IQ if you can resume people's behaviour that fast, especially when you never seen them irl.
“The joker character should not be viewed as a hero” We don’t view him as a hero, we view him as a product of a broken society and someone who needs help Edit: ya’ll please stop fighting in the comments
Seriously though: who past the age of five, in any culture where comic books and superheroes have any significance in media, would seriously consider one of the most iconic (if not THE most iconic) supervillain would be regarded as a hero?
@@tempusnostrumest “fight back” sure. But not in the way Arthur did. The whole point of the movie was not to paint Arthur as some hero, but rather humanize him. This movie wasn’t a big flashing neon sign that says “kill your neighbor”. No, this movie was ironically made about our society. Rich hold the power. The poor are oppressed and defenseless. Media over exaggerate/ make up stories. Mental illness. Violence... this movie isn’t left or right propaganda. It’s a direct embodiment of today’s society. Wether you can admit that or not. It’s not about justifying Arthur’s actions. It’s not about standing up through violence. It’s a direct comparison to our society.
"This movie glorifies and promotes violence" And yet John Wick mowing down an entire army of men single handily solely because someone killed his dog, is ok.
@@sint3640 you're missing his point, he is not saying John Wick is evil or even bad (the men he kills are better dead, trust me) but he is instead saying that it's absurd Joker is being classed as controversial but not someone like John Wick. Mainstream media lack brain cells and are huge hypocrites.
@@jonathanespinosa5666 People are being freaking beheaded and other crazy stuff, everyone has NO IDEA how much is being censored by the media..... Joker is just a GLIMPSE of some of the horrible stuff which happens every day
My ex was literally upset about this movie because it "put mental illness in a bad light" when like...it actually did an amazing job on showing how mental illnesses can seriously fuck you up if you arent getting any help or you get improper help.
I like how they were worried about joker, but there was a machete fight that broke out at the red carpet release of Frozen 2 between a bunch of teenagers
It really aggravated me that the media jumped down Joaquin's throat for losing his temper ONE TIME on set! The man hadn't been eating properly for months, he was trying to get into the mind of a tortured psychopath, and was filming anywhere from 8 to 12 hours PER DAY! I'd lose my temper if I had to go through all of that and still turn in a good performance as well! He probably apologized to the guy he briefly yelled at by the end of the day as well, but that wasn't on camera, so we just assume he's an asshole. No! He was under EXTREME stress and at one point had a small meltdown; it happens. Give the guy a fucking break!
I think that Arthur’s “hallucinations” aren’t really hallucinations, just daydream fantasies. He knows that they aren’t real. He knew that he wasn’t on the show initially, and I get the feeling that he also knew that he fantasised his entire relationship. So the whole “he didn’t give you a gun” thing wouldn’t have worked.
Well, that's the good thing about masterpieces, you can interpret them in many ways and many of the interpretations are meaningful. There are so many themes and ideas woven into the story that different approaches will find different themes and ideas, and there isn't one combination that is perfect. If you dig deeper, there are more and more layers, and there is no bottom, no matter how deep you dig. That's art!
I saw a strange connection with Walter Mitty in his daydrucinations (coining it). They both wanted better situations to come out of their sub standard lives but went about it in very different ways. The outcome for both was no longer suffering the daydrucinations.
And both of which are perfectly acceptable iterations of the character. I love how tightly Clown Prince of Crime has been wrapped around Phoenix's version when that title fits Leto's version so much better.
Harley quinn got very glamorised over the years since the arkham games. But is anyone worried about that? Of course not, cause when it is a female, it's just just quirky and powerfull
but i hate how they turned the relationship between harley quinn and joker into a standard romantic one, it was cringeworthy. The real dynamic of it being one-sided and extremely abusive is much more interesting and realistic considering how fucked up both of them are, but I guess it wouldn't have matched the tone of the movie if harley ran into joker's arms and got slapped and scolded for her incompetence instead of a kiss; it would have shocked the casual audience and demanded some comeuppance for the joker that the movie had no intent to deliver since it was focused on a different narrative. but i question the inclusion of the joker at all at that point.
This has nothing really to do with DC! I know comic book nerds take DC and Marvel very serious. But even the director of the movie said he didnt wanna make a comic book movie. He wants to make a real story but it leans slightly on the comic book stuff
I loved how he let Gary “the midget” go. That scene was a wild one. And it wouldn’t have been anywhere near as effective if he didn’t have to ask for help to open the door.
Being autistic, I loved Joker. Every person that I know with a mental illness or mental disability that watched it loved it. They all agreed with me: Joker is a pretty damned good depiction of how society treats those of us who are different. It's funny, because it seemed like every single person who ranted and raved about how horrible it was and how it was going to make people afraid of the mentally ill were people who themselves were not mentally ill or disabled. It seems like every time an accurate depiction of individuals with any sort of disability or illness (physical of mental) appears in a movie, TV show or video game, people expect stereotypes. When they don't get them, they think "that's not how it's looked when I've seen it before!" and start to rage about how "offensive" it is. In reality, their version of a "non-offensive" depiction IS the stereotype.
This Joker was so freaking cathartic to watch. He spent the whole movie begging for someone to hear him. He spent it being ignored and beaten and judged for being himself. When you’re mentally ill you know what that feels like. You know what it feels like to try to explain to others that you’re different and have them still expect you to be able to act “normally” whenever they want. To have them nod along as you beg them to understand and then silently scream as they forget in the next moment because they don’t get that being yourself is something you are 24/7 and not just when it’s convenient for them. Joker made them hear him. In a painful, awful way full of violence and terror, sure. But watching him get his moment? Watching him force them to notice? Watching him break through their apathy and scream “here I am”? That felt good. That felt good, and I lived vicariously through him. And something inside me that lived unacknowledged for years finally felt seen. I don’t care if it’s cringe, I am tired of trying not to be cringe. I am tired of worrying about being visibly mentally ill. I am tired of worrying about being judged. I loved this movie, it meant something to me. And god dang it, I should be able to have this without some idiot completely missing the point and telling me I’m a secret serial killer / dangerous / a psycho. That there’s something wrong with me if I thought this was cathartic. If I thought Arthur was relatable. Well guess what? There IS something wrong with me! Haha! And there’s nothing wrong with that. I can find the Joker relatable without idolizing him. I can find his actions cathartic without condoning them. I can watch this masterpiece and feel seen. And you know what? I love that people sympathize with Arthur. That people feel his pain. Empathize with his suffering. Because if they can do that for a fictional murdering lunatic of all things? Maybe they can do that for all of us in the real world, who need to be heard.
Average people with no problems are telling the mentally and physical disability population that a movie about a mental disability is offensive and inaccurate lol. I have Asperger’s, OCD rituals with tics get so bad that I look like I’m having a seizure in public, and I have to reassure people that I’m fine and it’ll just pass in a little bit. I have severe depression, and I’m a former cutter. I. Fucking. Loved this movie. I have never empathized and understood a character more than the new Joker. It was one of my favourite movies of the decade, and it’s so goddamn funny to me that people are so terrified by disabled people. It’s funny how I could understand the reasoning behind everything Arthur did, and I was so interested in him because of how it captured mental illness so well, but sOcIeTy is terrified that mental illness exists and they can’t lock us away and throw away the key. They’re scared by complete reality.
@@batman1766 doesn't help that his sidekick was named DICK Grayson, and on the original tv show I re member watching reruns where they both rode poles named DICK and Batman, to get to their 'man cave' 😁
I like to believe no matter what we all have "evil". We all have a darkside it's just who we are I suppose. Many people blaim others influences and even go as far as to blaim movies. When in all reality it's about the choice you make. Joker is a prime example of what society truly is, What and who it truly creates. The media is sick and they only want us as sheep.
"Show don't tell"... Uhhhh Uhhhh My mother always tells me to put a smile on my face. REMEMBER TO SMILE. (music in the background: smile, smile smile) The worst thing about mental illness is that people want you to pretend that you don't. This movie was an example of telling, not showing.
The way his voice starts to give out as he says “I’ll tell you what you get”, gives me fucking chills. As someone who suffers from several self destructive mental illness I have screamed to the point of my voice sounding just like that.
Arthur hates the madness but can't stop himself because it makes him seen. He cried because he finally realised that there is no going back. Everything he did, it suddenly became real. He cried because he could never get better but also because of how happy he is to finally be seen by people, actually seen.
by the time he was heard it was too late sometimes it is too late no matter how much the people that live where the grass is green will say it never is
On first watch, as a whole I wasn't even that impressed with this movie.. but Joaquin was absolutely amazing and I think he's up there with Daniel Day Lewis in acting ability. Robert DeNiro is great and a classic character actor but he is by no means to the level of their acting ability.. I think Pacino is even potentially a better actor at his height, but that's kind of a hard case to make since the 2000's
My parents and I love the movie. I love it more because I‘ve been through everything that Arthur has been through to some degree, and it is a dangerous road to be on, yet Joaquin captures it perfectly without insulting me.
Ja Bacon There are a few actors that should be on that list like Jack Nicholson, Marlon Brando and I know a lot won’t like this but Mads Mikkelsen , Holy shit this guy can act but unfortunately he doesn’t get great roles.
Deniro’s performance was lacking and had no enthusiasm or even a genuine feeling, just felt like he was lazily playing a character only to collect a check
"I'm the guy that played the shittiest Joker ever conceived right in-between the best two Jokers ever conceived" - that's something only Jared Leto gets to say
idk cesar romero was a pretty goofy joker, but i guess that's what happens when you make a movie based on the joker that was written under an era where you didnt get to have extreme violence and bad language in comic books
Loved this movie. I cried a lot. I so desperately wanted to help him the whole way through the movie. Being a nurse for over 30 years it was an honest examination of people who have no one and fall through the cracks. Brilliant!
Best way I heard someone sum up the difference between the two is: Leto’s Joker is a normal person trying to act crazy Phoenix’s Joker is crazy person trying to act normal
S H You have a single word to describe the entire movie and a single character trait. I get the impression you didn't see the movie and you're talking out your ass.
I love how there are so many messages of empathy and love in the comments. I think that’s what the movie is about. How incredibly important it is for each of us to be loved and to be seen.
This movie made me feel more deeply than any other movie. I can't explain the feeling. Disappointment? Guilt? Joy for him? This travelled into new territory for film. Absolute masterpiece.
i left the theatre feeling so sad and empty. i think i cried myself to sleep when i came home. tbh i dont really know why. but yeah the film was a masterpiece
Of course the joker isn’t a hero, no one in the story is a hero. He’s an isolated, mentally ill man who finally snaps. I think most people can relate to him in some way. The longing for love. The betrayal. The sickness.
what is a hero anyways, the masses decide what is right from wrong, the very message the joker wants to send in this movie. "heroes" are often the few that dare to make a stand for what 95% of the world population also believes in, but shuts up about because ironicly they feel they can't change anything anyways when standing "alone" against the elite 4% whom have "the power" ... but only the "crazy" 1%, sees that 99% of all those people are still all the same ...
@Not Applicable You're basically saying creating mass chaos and commuting murder is okay because "society" has too much to lose, you took this movie the wrong way, you should probably mature up before you watch movies like this.
I didn't want to watch the Joker movie bc I was afraid that Phoenix would outshine Ledger. Now I regret not watching it in cinema, finally watch it and respect Phoenix acting skill
I've never been attracted to Joker, but Joaquin catwalking out of that subway all bad gave me lady wood. On another note; I've watched Joker 5 times and purchased it on RU-vid. How many times did I watch Suicide Squad? Once. It was painful to get through and the difference here is we can't relate to Suicide Squad - nor can we imagine their struggles. The acting/script in Suicide Squad felt forced and lacked depth. We empathise with Arthur Fleck. He's traumatised from real life problems and real life tragedies. Joaquin is, and always has been a powerful and multifaceted actor that has no problem going to emotional depths that other actors can't. We see that. We feel that. He draws us into his world, and the overall production of this film was incredible. I cried my eyes out during the scene where Arthur reads his mother's file because I have worked with children who have been abused. This whole film is a case study. We could all learn something from watching it.
@Untitled Swan society made him the person he is. look a bit deeper into the actual meaning of the film. any of us have the potential to be the next joker if we're broken enough.
For me, the scariest character in this film is mental illness. In the past I suffered from severe anxiety which led to a mental breakdown and psychotic episodes and it is honestly terrifying to live with. It's like your mind isn't yours anymore. You're scared of yourself. You live in fear of both what you might do, and that you won't even realise what you've done until later. Deep down, the thing I fear the most is losing my mind.
Joker: the media expects a shooting from incels Also joker: makes billions, not a single shooting Popeyes: random person gets killed over chicken sandwich
But yet and still I don't see the National Guard surrounding Popeyes and warning people about chicken sandwiches even though they have caused deaths through foolish behavior.
it already has, and its only over a month old. just wait till the gangbusters BD sales, it will be the first movie i've bought in a long time. Joker is special.
Couldn't agree more!! Movies like 'Suicide Squad' that try to be "cool" and appeal to the times feel dated the moment they're released. But 'Joker' is an incredibly well-crafted film with real emotional resonance that actually seems to get better with time. This movie deserves to be remembered for years to come!
The scene where he finds out he’s truly adopted and everything his mother allowed to happen to him broke me. Joaquin was both laughing and crying and ugh it’s so hard to watch.
The film's purpose was also to raise mental illness awareness as well as to put importance on mental illness and the depression it can cause. As someone whose been to the mental hospital twice this movie made me cry and just thinking about my ex girlfriend and how people tried to make fun of her for her schizoaffective disorder also encouraged the tears. I have been there a loner, with mental issues, cerebral palsy and irritable bowel syndrome, but the lesson I have learned from my ex girlfriend is as follows: that we have to remain strong no matter how difficult life gets. Mental illness is important and this film I felt made the point of raising awareness. As someone whose been a honors student back in High school as well as a mental hospital patient I thank this movie. Be kind to each other and stay safe.
@@cherenmertens ok u guys need to chill I agree his joker sucked, but it's not letos fault. Put the person who had the idea before the name joker, not letos.
The worst part of the movie was that joker’s mental illness was too subtle and most normal viewers did not understand that Arthur was a mentally ill man. They should’ve tattooed “DAMAGED” to his forehead in the future so audiences will know he’s damaged.
"Why didn't Joker have 'mental illness' tattooed on his forehead?" Because Joaquin Phoenix was able to express it in actions. No hate to Jared Leto, but he was just not that good.
He wasn't that good. He was unanimously the worst. Playing crazy isn't the same as being crazy. What would a pretty boy rockstar know about being an outlier shunned by everyone. Joaquin phoenix already felt that when he wouldn't break character on letterman.
Not TheMama when Arthur is watching the show earlier in the movie maury ends it with “and always remember folks, that’s life” and then the credits roll with an instrumental version of the Frank Sinatra song That’s Life playing so he definitely said that’s life
My girlfriend and I go to the movies a lot, and I have ADHD so I'm usually kinda multitasking. I'll be eating or drinking something, or shifting my position in the seat, trying to hold her hand or cuddle her in some way, just doing something because the movie isn't grasping my entire attention. I sat down at this film, and from the scene after he got jumped to the end, I never took my eyes off the screen. It immediately became my favorite movie ever. I've seen it upwards of like, 20 times now. I absolutely LOVE this movie, and I wish we would get more movies like it.
Imagine if there was a remake of George Orwell‘s 1984. The media will be begging people not to go see that, considering how it will expose exactly what the media is doing right now.
I find it especially ironic that this film was decried as an alt-right or incel manifesto, when all of the most antagonistic characters are wealthy white men and Arthur's first crime in the film is killing three sexual harassers.
Thats cause the left is the faction trying to seperate people to classes not the right. This is a missunderstanding going arround since Hitler - and Hitler also was very very left wing. Same as Stalin as another example.
@Austin Martín Hernández You have built yourself a strawman of the right, a distorted vision but I even then I would prefer that any day before the marxist racial supremacist BLM movement or antifa or any other shit the left brings to the table this days.
@Austin Martín Hernández Lol, trickle down economics is a strawman within itself, I recommend you look for Tomas Sowell's explanation of it and you will discover it was a myth used to discredit tax reduction policies. Creationism should be kept away from school, but why religious expression as long as it's not mandatory. I say that as an atheist myself, I grew in a catholic family, had religious classes and never we never had a problem with that. Actual cases of marxist indoctrination in schools and universities using race and sexual orientation as a troyan horse are a much more pressing issue nowadays. Under Trump, America has seen unprecedented employment growth that has reached blacks and latinos, even though he has had congress and the media against him, so how's that a plan that only benefits the rich? Those conservatives are right, if you don't like it leave. Perhaps after seeing how failing nations fare under left wings governments and the lack of institutions that actually work and protect you that we actually have in the third world, you will learn to appreciate your country more
@Austin Martín Hernández Most of the things you have told in your 3 comments are false and given that you have not disproved any of my arguments means you have nothing to refute them. How can you state America facing an economic blow is Trumps fault? America is by a long mile not the worst faring this pandemic, I could spend the whole afternoon explaining how the things you have stated are not true but I guess I've already made my point. And at last, I'm telling you maybe you should get out is for you to understand how things are in other countries and for you to understand that the things you want to change to "fix" America is ultimately going to destroy what is good about the country. You may have good intentions but in the end the path you want to follow is only going to bring ruin and suffering.
mainstream media dictates so much of people views and “morals” making such a beautiful movie seem to be something bad to enjoy (12:19 is a perfect representation of this). This video has such accurate commentary
Thats only this take on the joker ever movie is different versions of the character pretty much every portrayel like comic, show, or movie is different
You don't laugh when you get hurt 😂 ????? The original joker his father ask him why don't you smile more then carved a smile on his face with a fork and said now that looks better
This is you best video and it fuckin’ shows! I’m annoyed that my friend Trevor judged it purely by the thumbnail and title and didn’t watch it because I know he would have loved it! It came out at the perfect time and everything said rings true now more than ever!
My parents went to see this even though my mother hates violent films and has little interest in super hero/comic stuff. She apparently spent the rest of her working week telling her clients about Joker and how it affected her, how awful she felt watching a man be so broken down and how badly she just wanted to give Arthur a hug. I'm so glad she saw the true colours of this film and didn't fall for the poison being spewed by the outrage mob.
My mum had the exact same reaction, while her friends and some family were like "I heard that movie's so violent isn't it violent?" Honestly kudos to her, and to your mum as well.
Endgame hyped me up, but this movie? This movie did something very little movies actually have: it made me deeply, horribly uncomfortable, and I love it for that very reason.
@@ashenone6166 you know dude, I'm getting kind of tired of every third dude I see on here listing extremely popular "unpopular" films that are similar to this one just to look "well versed" in cinema. We get it dude
@@thesaucyprophesy2939 That was not my intention at all. My intention was to get my point across that there are movies that Joker takes inspiration from that I feel were executed in a better way. I apologized if I offended you through doing so.
Yep fr. I love Marvel, and Endgame, and dont really hate DC just cause I love Marvel. But this movie was amazing. 10/10 for sure. I was so happy that DC went through with it and let Todd Phillips do his thing .
To be fair a lot of people who mean well don't want to highlight that truth, because pretty much every time in history that the masses openly agreed that the mentally ill among them were affecting them negatively, the mentally ill were then either executed, banished or imprisoned with a side dish of inhumane treatment. It seems like the current strategy we're attempting is to just get the masses to feel some level of empathy for the mentally ill first.
as someone who has a severe mental illness accepting my illness affects those around me to the same level it affects me was a major factor in recovery. it helped me have an even larger incentive to recover and it also helped me better explain to those around me how to help me and keep themselves safe in the process. that message is rlly important to both mentally ill people and everyone in general ill or not.
It's so poetic that in the movie.. they show a clip of joker and make fun of him for it.. and do the same to Phoenix in real life on Jimmy Kimmel.. both overrated talk shows.
This is probably the best movie review I’ve listened to in a long time. It put all of the emotions rushing through me while viewing this film into words. It’s hilarious, honest, and fun:) Thank you for your entertaining, thoughtful content!
Funny how the only thing joker inspired people to do was to dance down stairs. Other news someone got attacked by a machete during a frozen 2 screening
they do it all the time, tell people what they want them to hear, nobody talks about mental illness, poor, instead we hear about the amazon, apple, and random politics
from this one bideo sparking my interest to see this film to the way that you put the whole thing together was very entertaining viewing, well done sir.👍🏽
i watched this movie in theaters, people were laughing at the scenes of him uncontrollably laughing, it was just disturbing how we could see a representation of someone becoming mentally ill only for people to laugh at it
i mean at the starting after he got beat up everyone in my theatre was laughing but as the movie went on i guess they realise it was actually something sad so they stopped
It was something that was also said earlier in the movie. I don't remember when, but it was the reason that I still heard him say "life" in the silence of the broadcast being cut off.
i love you man...thank you...this is exactly what ive been thinking...this is a story of a man in an unfortunate situation. he tries his best but the system fails him and from the start to the end hes in so much pain.
I think one of the tragic parts of the movie was how his condition causing his uncontrollable laughter (as states on his card) could be caused by head trauma....which may have resulted from the abuse he suffered as a child. And the fact that he didn't remember all that abuse, you know it took a huge toll on him physically and emotionally. That was heart wrenching. Perhaps that is why too he was celebrating after his mom's death, he is free from his abuser (she stood by as he was abused by her bf and you could see signs of emotional abuse even as an adult from her, a diagnosed narcissist-- I mean she was naked and he was bathing her when she looked able enough and then she tells him he isnt funny when that's his dream). No wonder he was unhappy his whole life living with someone like that on top of all his other mental illness and trauma.
“Man goes to Doctor. Says he’s depressed. Says life seems hard and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world: Where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says “Treatment is simple. Great Clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up.” Man bursts into tears. Says “But Doctor....” “....I am Pagliacci.”
NINJA's Depression Dr. Manhattan: It’s so sad that Steve Jobs died of ligma. Rorschach: Who the hell is Steve Jobss? Dr Manhattan: Ligma balls Rorschach is immediately blown up by Dr Manhattan’s thoughts.
It actually really is rare. I saw it four times and everytime it was PACKED with 25-60 year olds. But you know what they say, “you have to be willing to compromise your ideals of freedom if you wanna suckle the warm teat of China.” -South Park
Thing is, the majority of Chinese movie goers with at least some intelligence -- who would normally crave for Hollywood flicks -- have come to the consensus that it not being shown in China is a GOOD idea. Too many people would get the wrong message in a place without the same sociopolitical climate as the US.
Great ending to a thoughtful and well done piece! And bonus points for not having that ranting tone of voice that one usually encounters in these types of things. You should be doing voiceover work!
he looked part pleased, and part crying... he didnt want to have to do what he did, but life and society gave him no choice, he was a completely broken man.
@@boogiewoogie343 He was going to kill himself, but when murrayy made fun of him yet again you can see the anger bulking up inside him, the rage is perfectly shot with the blue color and his serious look
TripleXnutty the fun irony of this is a theme in the movie. if you're paying attention, you know what he said because you know what is going on below the surface. if you aren't paying attention, you won't get it and probably take things too literally. and the cherry on top is that the janitor does actually get it, and he deliberately used something different to create the layer of misdirection while at the same time throwing a touch of homage to a similar mechanism used in the dark Knight, which was the story of how he got the "smile" on his face - a story which changes every time he tells it, showing a different facet of a complex stone, where you know there is some part of it that is real, and you know some of it is just an illusion, but it's not immediately obvious which.
