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Heating my home with a Chinese diesel heater. 

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After watching many videos about chinese diesel heater setups, I have built my own. Choosing some ideas and tips from others that suit my needs. I'm heating a two bedroom bungalow. Details about the heaters can be found on other RU-vid videos, this one is only to show my own setup. I don't have links to items I used but have suggestions to what to look for below.
🔴 Before anyone else comments on the ducting not being insulated, once videoing was finished and I’d shown the ‘Y’ piece and reducers, it was insulated in an industrial grade silvered bubblewrap. 👍🏻
EBERSPACHER/WEBASTO CLOSEABLE ROTATABLE AIR OUTLET VENT 60mm DUCTING
75mm to 60mm Ducting Reducer Outlet Adapter Parking Heater Outlet Converter
Parking Heater Air Vent Ducting Flat Elbow Pipe Outlet Exhaust Connector Black
42mm 60mm 75mm Duct Pipe Black For Air Diesel Parking Heater Conditioner Ducting

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@stevennoble2667
@stevennoble2667 9 месяцев назад
That looks tidy, I have a similar set up in my garden shed/workshop. I had the heater inside but it was a little noisy so I boxed in the underside of an outside workbench and piped it into the shed. Mounting the fuel pump onto something more solid than the flimsy steel on the heater cover really helped the noise. Works a treat tho.
@merlin5476
@merlin5476 9 месяцев назад
Loved the sound of all the starlings and sparrows 👍
@scopex2749
@scopex2749 9 месяцев назад
THAT is a brilliant idea! Im fitting one of these in my camper build so I think I'll put one in the house too!
@Chequr_Prostate
@Chequr_Prostate 9 месяцев назад
Great job, I think we will start to see more and more of these types of installations. Just make sure your outside socket has 30mA RCD protection if you haven’t already. Especially if you use the spare outlet for a lawn mower etc.
@doddsy799
@doddsy799 9 месяцев назад
I agree, this is a great idea, and will definitely increase in popularity. My concern going forward, will be how long is it, until these are outlawed in someway by the authorities.
@copstan
@copstan Год назад
Fantastic video Rob, very interesting I've never seen this type of heating before. It looks very simple to set up, I think I may have to look into it myself.
@robin8215
@robin8215 8 месяцев назад
Great set up , have been thinking how best to use this heater for my garden office and your explanation and set is perfect a big thank you for sharing
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
You are welcome. Good luck.
@MickeyMishra
@MickeyMishra 10 месяцев назад
Now that is a smashing good installation!
@ruck-a-tron
@ruck-a-tron Год назад
Nice setup. I think the reducers are good for the airflow, since you split the output air hose in two. I also like how you didn't use a permanent attachment to the house. I think your heater will last longer since it's not sitting out in the heat and humidity of the summer.
@bitcoinstacker
@bitcoinstacker 9 месяцев назад
Also, Poe insulation 😏 would make it go further
@paulwilliams8536
@paulwilliams8536 Год назад
I’ve bought one of these heaters ready for my shed build. I’ve also been looking in to the condensation problem I have in the house and a PIV SYSTEM Positive Input Ventilation where you pump fresh air in to the home from the loft space, creating positive pressure which cures the condensation. When I first saw you were pushing fresh air in, my first thought was better to recycle the air, then you mentioned the condensation and EUREKA you’ve got a PIV system at a fraction of the cost, think I’ll have to order another heater 👏👏👏
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi Paul. Yes, I’ve seen those PIV systems and by all accounts they’re very effective . How they compare with a diesel heater I wouldn’t like to say. Many people like to quote that I’m “doing it wrong” by drawing in air from outside and I didn’t design my set-up lightly or without lots of studying of videos of others. You read advice about opening widows and letting in fresh air when folk complain about condensation, especially in these winter months. But I’m basically doing the same thing. Maybe you should try one heater for your house, then, if your happy with the results buy the second one for your shed. Another point which most people don’t realise is, when you provide the positive pressure, it eliminates any draughts, and in doing so, helps keep out the cold. You watch, I’ll still have another viewer come on here tomorrow and say “you’re doing it wrong”. Anyway, it’s my set-up, it works well and I’m happy with it. Hope yours works out for you and thank you for your comments. Cheers. 👍🏻
@randomnamehererandoname1727
look up HRV units. there is a small company called acurasee that makes them and they aren't thousands of dollars either. same concept, cheap price.
@affieuk
@affieuk Год назад
@@en53kff So if I put this in the loft, would I need to cut a hole to the outside to feed air in? Any pointers on youtube videos or maybe some sort of diagram to explain this. As soon as I saw a video on these diesel heaters, I've been looking to see if someone used it for their home and you're the first. I'd love to figure out how much cheaper it is vs the code of gas or electric. My house has very poor insulation so if I'm here next winter, this is something I'd like to implement. Thanks very much for the detailed explanation and your reasoning.
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 Год назад
'I've got one for both holes' cracked me up because that is what the wife is always saying ha ha ha ha ha , nice job on the installation has given me a few idea's form my external setup.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi Billie. You’ve obviously got a very understanding wife. 😄 I’m glad you picked up a few ideas. That was the idea of the video, to show what can be done, keeping it tidy and useable. Maybe you will make a video to show us your set up when you’ve finished. Cheers. 👍🏻
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 Год назад
@@en53kff Can do but it is looking a bit Frankenstienish at the moment as I have zero skills and zero confidence. I will post as soon as it is running unless I blow myself up in the build.
@richardsandwell2285
@richardsandwell2285 Год назад
Its a great install, they are quite efficient I know a lot of friends using them.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi Richard. Yes they are efficient. Have you not thought about joining your friends and getting one? Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
@oo9467
@oo9467 7 месяцев назад
Excellent build
@Bertie_Ahern
@Bertie_Ahern Год назад
Nice job. I've been planning something similar for a while. Everyone should be doing this until prices come down to something reasonable.
@randomnamehererandoname1727
exactly. if the price of diesel gets to be not economical for use in these heaters, we are all going to be having way bigger things to worry about than heating our homes! at that point, the world will be on a fast track to shitsville, as diesel is the world's most used fuel for shipping infrastructure (both road and water) and would mean a cataclysmic ripple effect in the world economy. a lot of people like to shit on the chinese for intellectual property theft, but god bless em....without them we'd all have to spend $1000 or more on the webasto or eberspacher units. china numbah one!
@EelingStudios
@EelingStudios Год назад
I can only see fuel prices going up, we ain't seen nothing yet with this insanity gaining momentum as we do nowt to stop it.... 😕
@user-dn4sr1rp7r
@user-dn4sr1rp7r 10 месяцев назад
You can always buy fuel from lorry drivers, especially the ones from abroad. Just approach them and say you want some fuel. Usually it's £1 per liter. I personally think wood burner is much better option as you can get wood for free
@TIMSANDYSURF
@TIMSANDYSURF 9 месяцев назад
Very neat. Well done.
@6ddevil
@6ddevil Год назад
Good setup, the diesel heater produces dry air, and blowing in from outside means it’s acting similar to a PIV positive input ventilation system, (normally Loft fitted) producing a slight pressure in your home and escaping through gaps and holes etc, slowly pushing out damp air and introducing fresh dryer air. I’ve got a PIV in my loft and will be setting up my diesel heater similar to you in the summer. 👍
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
YES, someone who gets it…. you’ve got it ‘bang on’. 😀 So many people have said “you need to recycle the air from indoors”. I have positive pressure = no draughts. I have fresh air = no condensation on windows. Yes, I may be using slightly more fuel, but the benefits outweigh that. I did look into PIV but no longer need it. We all learn tips by watching others videos and using bits that best suit us. Good luck with your set up and thanks for your positive comment. 👍🏻😀
@6ddevil
@6ddevil Год назад
👍😉
@ardneww
@ardneww 7 месяцев назад
have you got heater installed in front of the PIV system for your house?
@johnbernard204
@johnbernard204 Год назад
I installed mine inside a utility room I made. Used a wall Timbal for the exhaust, air intake is inside, ired up to a wall mounted home furnace thermostat with two time delay relays and a power supply.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Sounds like you’ve got it sorted there John. Yes, I’ve seen timbals used a few times in different circumstances. You’re obviously happy with it like I am with mine which is what counts. Cheers John. 👍🏻
@paulbrown521
@paulbrown521 8 месяцев назад
Good job , well done
@sikugord03
@sikugord03 7 месяцев назад
That’s actually a fab idea lol. We converted a camper. Might use one in the home.
@ilovemywife34
@ilovemywife34 Год назад
You may want to consider drawing your air that’s to be heated from inside the house. I used to draw mine from outside and like you said about condensation, the near zero temps prevented the burner core from getting to full operating temperature. The result was it sooted up in no time and shut down. I luckily got way without stripping the unit down. I now run a pipe from inside the building and no problems since. Lots of moisture traps and job done 😎👍
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
When they leave the factory the heaters are not tuned to your circumstances - air density, temperature or humidity, regardless of where in the world they are going to be operated. Where it sits will also make a difference, for instance, how much air it manages to draw and at what rate the hot air expels. I’ve tuned my heater, in situ, in minus temperatures, to its optimum, having to increase the fan speed but reduce the pump rate. My infrared thermometer confirms heat value at both high and low rate plus no visual smoke or moisture output at the exhaust at any stage of the burn. Im happy that it’s running at its best and won’t soot up, especially as I’m running on diesel only and not some concoction. Thank you for your interest and indeed your comments. 👍🏻
@punisher288
@punisher288 Год назад
@@en53kff for how ong did you use it like that in colder times
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
@@punisher288 Ihave it on in the morning for a couple of hours and then again in the evening for about six hours.
@itsumonihon
@itsumonihon Год назад
If you do it like you're describing, you're pulling heated air from inside your building into the diesel heater and ejecting it out the exhaust. This is wasteful. This also pulls cold air from outside into the house through cracks, reducing your efficiency and creating very cold drafty areas wherever sealing is not perfect. I can't recommend what you're doing - there are better ways to address the problem.
@madeleyinc
@madeleyinc Год назад
​@@itsumonihonunfortunately you don't understand positive presure principles. Drawing intake air from outside stops cold air entering the house through unsealed gaps, no cold spots.
@michaeldemetriou1399
@michaeldemetriou1399 9 месяцев назад
Very well done.
@TheJDWay
@TheJDWay 8 месяцев назад
Great video mate. Thank you. RU-vid at its best
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Thank you 👍🏻
@SwedenLover090
@SwedenLover090 7 месяцев назад
Nice video. Good quality on the video and talk. Looks very nice, good work. 🎉👍
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Thank you very much!
@bullet-catcherhohoho250
@bullet-catcherhohoho250 Год назад
Well done.
@venenareligioest410
@venenareligioest410 11 месяцев назад
Ingenious 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@michaelstanley3961
@michaelstanley3961 8 месяцев назад
👍 Nice job
@themackeler5011
@themackeler5011 Год назад
Nice job iv got a diesel heater so this looks good set up
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Cheers bud. 👍🏻
@truthseeker1364
@truthseeker1364 9 месяцев назад
Nice clean job
@martink9785
@martink9785 Год назад
Nice install 👍
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Cheers Martin. 👍🏻
@garyjjohnson9021
@garyjjohnson9021 Год назад
Great video with some great tips Wish I bought one a while back as they have virtually doubled in price
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yes Gary. They shot up in price a week after I bought mine. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
@RD-qp3mu
@RD-qp3mu Год назад
Lots of good tips, like the 60mm concept. On my project list for next autumn. Heater prices are silly right now.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Thanks bud. 👍🏻 Yes I think the 60mm works well, especially when you’re splitting the blowing output. More force behind air pressure out of each exit. I bought mine literally the week before prices rocketed.
@RD-qp3mu
@RD-qp3mu Год назад
@@en53kff where did you get the swivel ducts from?
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
@@RD-qp3mu www.bowerspartsonline.co.uk/brands/eberspacher/air-outlet-vents-accessories/eberspacherwebasto-heater-60mm-ducting-rotatable-closeable-air-outlet-vent-black-9012300a-1320206a I found these were the cheapest, UK shipping not China, also in stock.
@robertcooper1908
@robertcooper1908 Год назад
Nice job I've fitted one into conservatory and working fantastic actually heating 3 rooms and not on too high a heat. Found your problem with the cold draught when turned off and bought a similar close able 75mm vent from ebay , only had it blowing 5 minutes at 25 degrees and it started melting and deformed like it was made from plastercine 🤨. So hopefully the vent you purchased will be available in 75mm or I'll carry on stuffing with a tea towel 😀 👍 keep up the good work.
@leelossi1257
@leelossi1257 Год назад
Great video........sounds like it works perfect
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yes Lee, it works just great and I’d do the same again. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO Год назад
Nice job, i've got one of these for my shed, works out at between 5p and 9p per kilowatt hour depending on diesel price, which is great in comparison with 34p per kwH for electricity!
@nigeldancy
@nigeldancy Год назад
ive run mine off kerosene with no issues for about 7 weeks now and its only about 70+vat a litre
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO Год назад
@@nigeldancy Nice, do you have to buy a lot to get that price ?
@paulharrison2325
@paulharrison2325 Год назад
How are you getting diesel so cheaply?
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 Год назад
@@paulharrison2325 red diesel ? 🤔
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO Год назад
@@paulharrison2325 I got normal diesel for anywhere between £1.70 and £1.90 but some on YT have said they get red diesel for as low as £1.30.
@markharris8929
@markharris8929 Год назад
Just equipped my van with an Eberspacher recirculating diesel heater. It was fitted professionally under the left side next to the main fuel tank and I have the hose into the van but it’s not wired up yet. -1’ last night so sodding freezing in the sleeping bag!! I must get it wired in! 😅
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Mark, when it’s wired in you’ll love it. In fact I’ve heard of people having them in the van and they get too hot. A good brand the Eberspacher too. Get it sorted, you’ll sleep like a baby. 😊
@nicksullivan2212
@nicksullivan2212 8 месяцев назад
Looks like you’ve done a great job there. Only one thing I would do insulate the pipes you can get some pipe insulation. Would you just keep the temperature up good job, 👏👏
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment. In the video description, it says that the pipes were insulated. I did this once the video had been made.
@thornwarbler
@thornwarbler Год назад
Nice well thought out install..........Cheers
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Thank you. 😊👍🏻
@PROJECTMONTAGE
@PROJECTMONTAGE Год назад
Great video! An update on the cost benefits of heating with one of these would be another good video 👍
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mVf1TwbLKqQ.html Hi Jack. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻 There are so many videos out there on every aspect of these heaters that I’d only be repeating what someone else has already done. I made my video purely to show my set up. However, I have given you a link to a video where a guy shows you how to work out the costing, dependant on how high you have your heat set (pump rate) and with different fuels. You may have to make some adjustment in calculation if your fuel is a different price, but the maths are all there. It’s a quick video so you may have to replay it a couple of times or pause it. Almost anything you need to ask is covered by someone’s video, it’s just a case of a quick search on RU-vid or Google. It’s how I learned and got hints and ideas. Good luck with it. All the best. 😊
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Jack, you may be interested to see comments from Nigel D & also from Gary McKinnon. 👍🏻
@PROJECTMONTAGE
@PROJECTMONTAGE Год назад
Great thankyou for your quick replies and help, I will definitely check them out! Keep up the good work ✅
@rizla7708
@rizla7708 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4tiSEGO6pYI.html This guy goes over cost and alterations to improve. Hope this helps.
@philtebble4390
@philtebble4390 Год назад
Very clever my friend
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Thank you. 👍🏻
@jcreswick
@jcreswick 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant 🎉 well done 👍🏼✅
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@asmallholdersjourney3618
@asmallholdersjourney3618 Год назад
Love it. Care to take a look at mine with heat recovery both exhaust and air recycling and also dehumidifying.
@DIYVariety
@DIYVariety 7 месяцев назад
Interesting indeed my friend. Cheers
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@gillcelt
@gillcelt 7 месяцев назад
Good vid thanks.
@pudsrus2
@pudsrus2 9 месяцев назад
Genius👌🏻👍
@MLA..
@MLA.. Год назад
The exhaust pipe can exit the building using the same method as a wood burning heater using a metal duct and a metal inside liner.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yes you are correct. That’s not what I wanted though in my build.
@sprint12polska
@sprint12polska Год назад
Nice installation, I done similar project I used plastic storage box/bench from B&Q as heater housing, I decided to buy one of these heaters after this last cold wave we had here in Ireland, and big impulse to do this was my gas bill :P. Due to house configuration (terrace) I was only able to do one outlet in the kitchen but still all downstairs get nice cosy warm after while, my wife love it she was sceptical on this but now she use it all the time. We use about 10-15 litres of green (lower tax) diesel per week , 1.10 euro per liter so is not to bad IMO.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hey, good for you. 👍🏻 it’s a good feeling knowing that your house is warming up and you’re not paying through the nose for it. It sounds like you used your initiative when looking for a box to put it in. Great idea. Some people criticised me for using timber to make my box saying it was a fire hazard. But as you know, it’s only the exhaust that gets hot and as long as that is safe you are good to go. I’m using lower tax diesel too and a similar amount per week. This idea really seems to be catching on now even though the price of the heaters has doubled. Good luck with it and thank you for your comments.
@sprint12polska
@sprint12polska Год назад
@@en53kff I used bit of this stove heat resistant sealing rope to cover gap between exhaust pipe and hole I drilled on the side of the box I was checking that for few days with IR thermometer and no problems, I had to cover this gap because sometimes wind blow some exhaust gases back to the box as I don't have to long exhaust pipe. And yea only exhaust is really hot but if you keep 1cm clearance all will be OK. I used it with battery and charger now I have 30A power supply (power cuts are very very rare here) not sure yet what I will use in the future maybe I back to battery. Anyway keep warm greetings from IRL
@luckyphil_01
@luckyphil_01 Год назад
Lucky with the green diesel - how do you buy that, as a heating fuel as opposed to for a car?
@sprint12polska
@sprint12polska Год назад
@@luckyphil_01 just at my near petrol station they have separate pomps with kerosene and green diesel. Of course you can use this to your car but from time to time you can be stopped at checkpoint and they check sample of your fuel on spot. If they noticed traces of green diesel in your tank I think 🤔 you on trouble.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
@@luckyphil_01 Hi Phil. Here in the UK it is dyed with a red dye and hence we call it red diesel. It is sold at its own pump at our local filling station. Before you can purchase it you have to fill-in forms and show ID and say what it is going to be used for. It can’t be used in any mode of transport but it’s okay for personal use in heating. You are then given paperwork which you must show each time you want to purchase. The attendants do watch you fill your containers and check that you are not putting any in your vehicle.
@Chris.stew68
@Chris.stew68 5 месяцев назад
Nice 👍👍👏👏
@stewartgarner-jones9226
@stewartgarner-jones9226 Год назад
cool setup. the only thing I would add is to insulate your ducting pipes going into the house
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Must be about the tenth person commented on that. After recording the video showing the ‘Y’ piece and the reducers, I later insulated all the outside ducting.
@tedhaze1
@tedhaze1 8 месяцев назад
Looks okay to me I put mine in a metal box outside and I like drawing in the outside air as well but I would say with those lengths of pipes that you have heading in the house for the Heat Ducks should be insulated
@MrAwol007
@MrAwol007 7 месяцев назад
I was thinking same thing there’s going be heat loss due to no insulation
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Yes, the pipes were insulated once the video had been made.
@RichardCummins-ni4em
@RichardCummins-ni4em Год назад
Thank you, good information. Haveyou considered lagging [insulating] the 75mm discharge tubes ? My shed heater draws and discharges air from within the shed and the discharge tube runs quiet hot, wasted heat in your case and tubes being effectively finned dramatically increases surface area.
@NahBroUK
@NahBroUK 9 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same thing. I recently bought 10m of high quality weatherproof exhaust lagging for my boat for ~£25. The manufacturer says it keeps in up to 50% of heat. Even if in the real world you only get a 10% increase in efficiency, this will pay for itself in mere months.
@e-bikerbulgaria
@e-bikerbulgaria Год назад
I was surprised when didn’t mention insulation on those exterior hot air ducts? Very nice install. Bought one 5kw version recent and installed six metres of 75mm alloy chimney flue lining. The entire length radiates heat plus even lowest setting warm air is expelled at the outlet. Be ideal if the fan setting was independent from the diesel consumption, more speed at a lower setting preferable.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yesterday I added insulation along the lengths of ducting and it does help a little. I’m using industrial grade thermal bubblewrap, wrapped and tied with nylon cable ties. Depending on which model controller you have, it is possible to adjust both the pump settings as well as the fan setting. Here’s a link to a video showing how, and tuning the heater to be more efficient. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SmCYQu53umk.html
@e-bikerbulgaria
@e-bikerbulgaria Год назад
@@en53kff Spanner icon top left button that is controller in use. Must be the most basic controller? Tried getting into settings very little adjustment. The link is Tony’s site. I should have checked the controller was that seen in the video that tipped me over direction of purchase. I had been pondering for years to buy Diesel heater more serious since installation LPG shower. Which is where the pipe’s air exits into the shower room. Need to set aside some time and ask about the local eateries if I could get used cooking oil. I’d buy a second Diesel Heater to heat main house if was run on used filtered cooking oil. Glad you’re gaining some heat from the insulation every degree Celsius counts these days. Look forward to the insulation video😎👍👍
@JR-xw5dk
@JR-xw5dk 9 месяцев назад
Richard Baker did some good work measuring the air speed and delta temperature on what was sold to him as an 8k diesel heater and this output was closer to 3kw not the 8kw he was sold. The 8k might be kilo calories not kw. If you are comparing electric rates you may not be getting what you thought. But still lower cost with the higher energy cost.
@HiruS22
@HiruS22 7 месяцев назад
Too true, of all the tests of 8Kw heaters I’ve seen, only one reached 5Kw with the rest between 3 and 4. A bit like the Chinese headlights/torches that advertise 100,000 lumens 😂
@hugobose2254
@hugobose2254 7 месяцев назад
Looks great, a sound check?? inside and outside, might be worth another vid
@user-pu7jk4jj8k
@user-pu7jk4jj8k 8 месяцев назад
Very informative and good video. Just spotted it , after I have just completed an almost identical setup at my house, to heat my conservatory. We live in a rural area with no mains gas, and we use Kerosene in our oil central heating anyway, so after reading that these heaters run great on Kersone, I bought a cheap hand pump and it only takes minutes to take 5 litres of Kerosene from the filling point, on our main oil tank to use in the diesel heater, much cheaper than buying diesel at the pump. Only a couple of things I have different, from your set up, which I thought I would share is that I made my external box from non combustible cement board inside and out, fixed to a cheap timber frame. I got the cement board from Wickes and is fire resistant and is weatherproof and can be painted. I rendered it with a one coat render to match the house. I made the lid from a old sheet of thin steel. My extended exhaust has a gravity run on it to remove any moisture in the pipework. I upgraded my exhaust silencer and this has a hole in it to drain any condensation. On the inside of the conservatory ( I only have one inlet), I originally had the same grille as you have but noticed that when the heater was on full blast, the hot air was red hot at the outlet but the air cooled as it passed through the room and gave a slight cold draft further into the room. I solved this by buying a cheap £18 mini convector heater from Amazon ( Oypla frost convector heater) and fitted it in front of where my duct inlet grille was, after removing the electrics from it and cutting a hole in the back which I extended the diesel heater duct into. I also fitted a couple of metal grille type baffles inside the convector to direct the air flow upwards sligthly, which also heated up with the heat from the air flow. Result was a big improvement on just having the outlet , with no noticeable cold draft anywhere in the room and the convector heater body gets hot ( as it is intended to do if used with electricity) and this provides a further area for convected heat in the conservatory. All my walls and anything entering the house are non combustible, so no fire risk anywhere , and even if the heater caught fire , it is contained outside, within the fire proof housing. I also have my battery charger / monitor inside with an extended 12v cable going outside. I can check the battery state easy on the charger / monitor led lights, and don't have it on all the time, only usually before I turn on the diesel heater and when it is running. I also fitted a battery same as you have, as I may need the heater, when our power goes out, which happens a few times most winters. Sorry for rambling on, but I think your set up is great and I would share my own installation details for anyone else to consider if they are thinking of this type of installation. The diesel heater has been an interesing project for me and cost me around £250 for all the parts and although we don't use the conservatory much throughout the winter, if we do want to use it , then the cost of heating it is much cheaper than the electric heater we have been using previously.
@delphetj
@delphetj 8 месяцев назад
Very interested in seeing more of your installation. Just buy one for a small room out of the house.
@kyleop1
@kyleop1 7 месяцев назад
Kerosene is diesel
@user-pu7jk4jj8k
@user-pu7jk4jj8k 7 месяцев назад
@@kyleop1 Hi, I am afraid that is not correct. Kerosene is fractionally distilled at a higher temperature than road diesel, making it a lighter fuel with smaller molecules and is more volatile. I pay 77p a litre for my kerosene from the heating oil supply company and it is about £1.45 a litre for road diesel at the pumps.
@kyleop1
@kyleop1 7 месяцев назад
@@user-pu7jk4jj8k Diesel engines run on kerosene and vice versa. It's a tax issue mainly, government scammers yet again.
@condell1956
@condell1956 6 месяцев назад
Kerosene it's not diesel
@lloydevans2900
@lloydevans2900 7 месяцев назад
There is one more modification you could make in order to recover some wasted heat and make the system more efficient: Extend that air intake (the bigger one for the heated air, not the small air intake for combustion) by a few metres with a well insulated tube, running in a straight line. Then make a hole in it just big enough to poke the exhaust pipe into, as close to the heater unit as possible. Run the exhaust pipe down the middle of the air intake tube, such that the flow of the exhaust gases goes in the opposite direction to the flow of the air intake. Ensure that the exhaust pipe is at least a metre longer than the air intake tube, so that the final exit of the exhaust is a good distance away from the entrance to the air intake. Then put some thick insulation (of a non-flammable type such as glass fibre tape or rock wool) on the short section of exhaust pipe between the bottom of the heater (where the exhaust pipe starts) and the hole where it goes into the air intake tube. This will turn the intake and exhaust combination into a counter-flow heat exchanger: The cold air entering the air intake tube will be heated by the hot exhaust pipe running down the middle of it, recovering some of this otherwise wasted heat and making the hot air flowing into your house even hotter. This should significantly increase the temperature of the air flowing into your house for any given power setting, or allow you to use a lower power setting than you would otherwise need for the amount of hot air you want. These diesel heaters are essentially heat exchanger systems anyway, this modification just makes it more efficient.
@bernhardrichter1030
@bernhardrichter1030 6 месяцев назад
I must have seen like a hundred videos about these heaters. This is probably the best suggestion I've heard so far as with regards to improving efficiency.👍👌.
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Great idea 👍🏻
@yonxy
@yonxy Год назад
Amazing setup, and thank you for sharing! I have a little tip - if you want to get rid of clicking sound of the fuel pump just hang it on elastic bands or zip tie, it will become almost silent. I have a question about the exhaust fumes. The house it's not a camper, it doesn't move. Does the fumes cloud builds around your house? What about your neihgbours, any complains?
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi Den. I’ve never had an issue with the clicking because of its location. I don’t hear it inside the house. Although I have heard of different methods to quieten it as you suggest, but never needed to change it. As for the exhaust, there are no clouds as such. I get no visible signs, no smoke or moisture content and no obvious smell either. I have seen videos where smoke bellows out but can only assume that is more to do with what fuel they’re using or the heaters settings. As I live near the sea it is nearly always breezy and so imagine any fumes are quickly dispersed. My neighbours aren’t close enough to be within earshot of the heater. I do have an oil fired central heating system which has a large heater and is outside, albeit in a brick built shed type construction. . If I turn that on, it is 3 times louder than my diesel heater although not annoying loud. I’ve never had a complaint about that either. Hope this answers your questions. Thanks for your interest. 👍🏻
@baronvonchickenpants6564
@baronvonchickenpants6564 9 месяцев назад
What a progressive word we live in, going back to oil heating
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 9 месяцев назад
Is "what" a progressive word?
@techtinkerin
@techtinkerin 9 месяцев назад
Tell it to the government
@786otto
@786otto 9 месяцев назад
That is one off stupendous comment on I n telnet
@jandejong2430
@jandejong2430 8 месяцев назад
"Net Zero" is the name of the expensive boondoggle.
@Ktron99
@Ktron99 8 месяцев назад
My main fitted boiler runs off oil
@karlossmith3714
@karlossmith3714 Год назад
As much as I love my diesel heater I don’t think I’d consider using it in the house 🤓 nice job though regardless 😊
@ThisIsJamesL
@ThisIsJamesL 9 месяцев назад
It's outside the house
@floriniancau5766
@floriniancau5766 8 месяцев назад
Great job! The 2 long hoses with heat air must have thermal insulation !!! otherwise it will loose to much heat an poor efficiency when outside temperature drop.
@nigeldancy
@nigeldancy Год назад
ive had mine in since December the 18th and cut my combined electric/gas bill from £240 to 110 ish ....i run of kerosene aswell lovely and cheap i leave mine running all the time with my house being open plan with the stairs in the room it heats upstairs lovely to 21oC only cool room is the kitchen but i can deal with that
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi Nigel. That’s great that you managed to cut your fuel bill. I haven’t put a price on mine but it’s quite a saving. Incidentally, I’ve just had a comment that said “I seriously doubt that’s a cheaper method of heating your home”. Just what can you say to that? How much are you paying for kerosene where you are? Do you have to buy in bulk?I’m running on red diesel from our local garage at £1.30a litre.
@TheOfficialBatteryMan
@TheOfficialBatteryMan Год назад
Is the saving including your price of kero to run the heater?
@alexandrosr5179
@alexandrosr5179 3 месяца назад
Hehe, mate, your voice is very close to Anthony Hopkins voice 🎉...nice setup !
@urbanimage
@urbanimage 10 месяцев назад
You can run these heaters on domestic heating oil which is much cheaper than diesel.
@adradic3782
@adradic3782 8 месяцев назад
Nice i have the same
@FreeThinkingTruther
@FreeThinkingTruther 7 месяцев назад
Small solar cell on the roof of your outdoor cabinet , charge controller and small deep cycle battery, be fully off grid option then.
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for your suggestion. I am going to look into a small solar cell. Cheers.
@vauny24
@vauny24 Год назад
Good set up ideally should think about insulating the hot air pipes into house outside as you will get heat loss in freezing weather.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Already done. 👍🏻
@StevesOutdoorCameraAdventures0
Very nice set up
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
@@StevesOutdoorCameraAdventures0 Thanks Steve. 👍🏻
@davidpunchard5698
@davidpunchard5698 Год назад
Have you got a video of the appliance running please.. nice set up by the way.. ps, what does the temperature get up to in the room ? .. thanks. Dave
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
@@davidpunchard5698 Hi there. I don’t have a video of it running. I could do one but there are many out there already on RU-vid, It’d just be another of many. The control unit lets you set the temperature of your room. I set mine usually at 20c. The heater runs at full until it reaches 20c then you can hear it quietening down almost to a ‘tick over’ to maintain that 20c room temperature.
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 Год назад
Loosing heat through piping, cover in loft insulation. I did i my caravan heat trunking.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Already done with industrial grade silver bubble wrap. 👍🏻
@andybibby342
@andybibby342 6 месяцев назад
The only concern to me is the exhaust pipe ends directly under the window. But great video and install. Thanks for sharing.
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Yes, but the window remains closed over the winter.
@user-oz4mx1di7t
@user-oz4mx1di7t Год назад
Just something to think about I'm seeing a lot of people now putting a egr cooler in the exhaust line and then being able to run a normal radiator and then doubles the heat
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yeah, I’ve seen that. It’d be extra work and expense when I don’t really need it. I admire the people who go the extra mile though. It just shows you what can be done. My set up suits my needs right now. Cheers.
@TheMetheman1
@TheMetheman1 Год назад
You got to find an air conditioner for summer to put in the box ;)
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yeah, for the one week a year that it gets hot enough to use. 😂
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@MrLiamHenderson
@MrLiamHenderson Год назад
I'd cover that pipe with rockwool or fibreglass. More heat goes into the house and less lost in transit.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yep, it was all insulated soon after making the video. 👍🏻
@L1vR-1948
@L1vR-1948 Год назад
Thanks :-) 👍
@flippy9133
@flippy9133 11 месяцев назад
I would add automotive filter on the inlet just to minimize dust to be blown into the house
@scottweedin7570
@scottweedin7570 7 месяцев назад
Looks awesome , i just purchased the 8kw unit , what size is yours ? I too am seriously considering an outside setup like you have .
@t.d.5804
@t.d.5804 7 месяцев назад
A friend did the same, these heaters are everywhere. But he is spending 80€ a month on heating oil/diesel plus a bit of gas for the main heater in the rest of the house. Asked him why he did not use an air condition (air air heat pump). He hat no explanation except that is costs 1200€. Well.....better heat, no fumes and cool in the summer and its cheaper long term. I heat/cool my house only with an air air heat pump, simple, easy to install, low costs. Runs 8 months of the year with PV modules on my roof. Dont have to buy any oil
@QUADBOYification
@QUADBOYification 10 месяцев назад
Really good setup, niceley done. For backup heating nice to have on hand. I am wondering, did you have estimates on costs running this all day in winter if you had to? Do you plan to use a thermostat to trickle down the heater? I am curious how much diesel you hace stored in your garage?
@en53kff
@en53kff 9 месяцев назад
Hi. I didn’t have estimates as such, just viewed other videos of others on RU-vid. I have taken the control unit off the unit, extended the wiring and mounted it in the house. I can set the temperature I require on the unit. Therefore I don’t need a separate thermostat. Once the temperature is reached the units diesel pump slows down and holds the set temperature. I’ve since installed a 15 litre fuel tank to replace the standard 5lt one. I only buy and store 20 litres at a time. Hope this helps. 👍🏻
@stuartcraigon2003
@stuartcraigon2003 6 месяцев назад
​@en53kff if memory serves me it's all your legally allowed to buy and store domestically. Any more and you need a fuel storage licence.
@QUADBOYification
@QUADBOYification 6 месяцев назад
I guess with the correct tank (500L) you would have no problems.@@stuartcraigon2003
@nateuk2542
@nateuk2542 Год назад
Have a look into using quilted foil insulation wrapped around the hot air pipe
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi Nate. If you read through previous comments you will see that I have already done this. Cheers. 👍🏻
@nateuk2542
@nateuk2542 Год назад
@@en53kff gotcha 👍
@paulrattray8121
@paulrattray8121 Год назад
Preheat the air entering the heater by either wrapping it around the exhaust or the heating pipe
@GordonjSmith1
@GordonjSmith1 6 месяцев назад
So sorry that this was necessary, but a pragmatic solution to a difficult economic problem. Could I also suggest a de-humidifier in the house? They are very inexpensive to run, and reduce your energy costs more than their running costs - an additional benefit is that they prevent black rot and other 'damp associated' problems (including condensation).
@t-rex4211
@t-rex4211 6 месяцев назад
Indeed. I run mine 24/7 and costs about £1 a day. Saves £2 a day on heating I’d say
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Yes, I have a de-humidifier running 24/7 over the winter months.
@GordonjSmith1
@GordonjSmith1 5 месяцев назад
@@en53kff So sorry that it is necessary to run a de-humidifier so much, but they do work well when needed. My thoughts are with you. Have you explored all the ways that damp is entering the home? Have you tried hanging your recently washed clothes out of doors before 'finishing them off' indoors? Do you have some air circulation in each room? (Windows do need to be opened for a period of time regardless of the temperature. ) Wishing you all the best. G.
@danyo1972
@danyo1972 9 месяцев назад
Nice set up. Might get one of these for my new garage. How much diesel does it use in a week?
@craigwalker5032
@craigwalker5032 10 месяцев назад
Looking into this for the winter, did the control unit come separately? All the heaters ive seen has the controller attached to the unit
@markhammond5963
@markhammond5963 9 месяцев назад
Hi Really like the set,was thinking of fitting one myself. Can you tell me where you bought your rubber bungs and your insulation for your outside pipes please? Regards Mark
@delphetj
@delphetj 8 месяцев назад
Great installation. Just buy one for the room of my big Son which is not connected to the house - the room not the Son, but not so sure 😉- . Do you know if I can extend the exhaust pipe and put it verticaly over the roof? Thanks for sharing!
@jorgechoypernia
@jorgechoypernia Год назад
Thanks for the video.. I just got a new diesel heater and thinking to do something similar. Is the neoprene duct suitable for very high temperature? Also, have you put the neoprene as an inner sleeve or within a metallic duct? :)
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi Jorge. Yes it is designed as heater ducting and will take high temperatures. No I don’t have a metal duct, just the neoprene alone, as a sleeve. www.t7design.co.uk/neoprene-heater-ducting-60mm-2-36-id-x1m-f02-53e-5b1.html
@davidvanhinsbergh2444
@davidvanhinsbergh2444 Год назад
You need to heavily insulate the pipes as you will think it's air conditioning being pumped into the house running through a fridge plant, nice set up. I use about £2.50-£3.00 a, day heats most of my house, if l was using gas cost me£13 a day . I was a bit skeptical, but not anymore 😁
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yeah it’s a big saving. 👍🏻 As mentioned in video description, the pipes are insulated. Cheers.
@IMJUSTBILLUNO
@IMJUSTBILLUNO Год назад
Also, you might want to think about using a solar panel to charge the battery for those longer power outages. You will continue to have heat with no electricity from the power company.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi. Yes that’s always an option to look in to. It could be one of those temporary fold away solar panels that you get out just when you need it. I shall have to price them up. 👍🏻
@IMJUSTBILLUNO
@IMJUSTBILLUNO Год назад
@@en53kff still, you did a nice looking job on it.
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
@@IMJUSTBILLUNO Cheers bud. 😊👍🏻
@StopLossLOL
@StopLossLOL 8 месяцев назад
If you want to add a solar panel and controller as a fun little project, then fine - but the heater draws so little power that it does not make sense financially.
@HiruS22
@HiruS22 7 месяцев назад
It draws quite a bit on startup, but once it’s up to temp the current draw is low
@deadalus888
@deadalus888 Год назад
Brilliant videos. Unfortunately I live in the city. So my question to you or to anyone else is. Is it possible to convert or connect the heater to heat the water in my radiators of my house. If anyone knows how this can be done, please make a video to let us all know. Many thanks.
@bigKDL
@bigKDL 9 месяцев назад
You can buy a Chinese water diesel heater will fit anywhere in your existing pipework with no trouble
@hurtinalbertan3844
@hurtinalbertan3844 6 месяцев назад
Great job on the setup, super clean! I have one of these heaters for camping and heating the garage in the winter. My only question is would it actually be cheaper than just running your furnace?? I live in canada and it gets cold as balls, i know i've gone though almost a full tank in one night while camping in -30 degrees. I know you probably wouldn't use only this to heat your house in the winter but even lets say to heat one room on low in the spring/fall you might get a day out of the tank? Diesel costs about $1.60/L around here, so $8 per 5L tank... what I'm getting at is my natural gas bill is around $100/month so much cheaper to just run the furnace instead of using this. But I do use the diesel heater in the garage because I don't have a gas line running out there and I am thinking about building a sand battery to capture the wasted exhaust heat.
@user-nz6dx2fj6h
@user-nz6dx2fj6h 4 месяца назад
It would be better to use the metal flexible exhaust pipes(extended) to create a small radiator for the taste gases so that it can distribute the heat before it goes out cold(or much colder). That was it's a double heating system. In addition, what fuel are you using? I use half diesel and half recycled sunflower oil. To purify the old oil, make a paste of Baking powder and water, add to warm old oil and then bring to a boi, stirring constantlyl. It will get most if not all the impurities out, which saves you from using several filters of diminishing sizes.
@jamieniche
@jamieniche 9 месяцев назад
I was thinking about doing this at my house, I hadn't thought of splitting it between two room though. Had you thought about insulating the pipes coming in to the house? They must be losing quite a bit of heat.
@en53kff
@en53kff 9 месяцев назад
Hi Jamie. Yes, the pipes were insulated after I shot the video. I wanted to show them in situ beforehand. They are insulated with industrial grade silvered bubble wrap. I used an infrared thermal thermometer to check the heat loss both before and after insulation. The insulation is very efficient. Thank you for your comments.
@saunteringsapsfords
@saunteringsapsfords 5 месяцев назад
Hi,very interesting, thinking of doing something similar, what amp hr battery did you use please,guessing 50amp hrs will do?
@railinly610
@railinly610 9 месяцев назад
I'd go with a non flammable enclosure and ditch the battery and charger for a 12v dc supply. Apart from that I like your set-up.
@StopLossLOL
@StopLossLOL 8 месяцев назад
He said that they have frequent power cuts in the area and diesel heaters are not happy about that. The battery setup is basically an uninterruptible power supply (UPS).
@railinly610
@railinly610 8 месяцев назад
@@StopLossLOL if kept charged, which it won't be with a diesel heater drawing all the power pretty quickly. Solar charging is also useless in winter.
@StopLossLOL
@StopLossLOL 8 месяцев назад
@@railinly610 it doesn't have solar charging. It's an AC charger.
@railinly610
@railinly610 8 месяцев назад
@@StopLossLOL handy in a power cut eh.
@StopLossLOL
@StopLossLOL 8 месяцев назад
@@railinly610 Will run off the battery during a power cut and then get recharged when the power is back on. Perfect solution.
@barriewilliams4526
@barriewilliams4526 Год назад
Interesting video Rob, but you missed out the bit I was really interested in. Did it keep the house toasty (in cold weather) on its own?
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi Barrie. On the coldest day, -6 outside, it was reading a temperature of 14° inside the house. I turn the heating on in the morning and within an hour it was 20° at which point I reduced the pump rate to about half. An hour may seem a long time but remember I am heating two separate parts of the house at the same time with the one heater. I have no complaints and with hindsight would still go ahead and do the same again. Thank you for your comments. 👍🏻
@MuddyBootz
@MuddyBootz Год назад
Nice neat install 👍🏻. How did you extend the controller cable… and what type of cable did you use??? I think I am just down the road from you.. I’m in Wolves. Just subbed you. Notice you are a Slade fan 🎸💪. Jim Lea lives opposite my nephew 😊
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Hi. I bought some 3 core cable from eBay - Three Core Marine Auto TINNED Thin Wall Cable 1.5 mm² metre 15/16 AWG 3 Yacht . Less than £3. I moved to North Wales 10 months ago. Yeah, big fan for many years now. 👍🏻
@MuddyBootz
@MuddyBootz Год назад
@@en53kff Cheers 👍🏻
@dimitriosfilipakis4504
@dimitriosfilipakis4504 8 месяцев назад
Hey Brother.. this is the video i was looking for!! i am thinking of doing the same to my 140sq meter single level home, using 2 units on each side of the house.. do you mind some questions?... i plan the same setup, using batteries and a trickle/solar charger.. as my house is off grid and very far from public power lines i already bought 2 of these same units!! 1) what size are your rooms? overall sq meters heated? 2) temp difference outside vs inside? 3) do you run the heater 24/7 and is the fuel consumption as stated? or are you burning more fuel 4) are you using its own automatic temperature control? or are you using manual ON/OFF control? 5) any suggestions/recomendations for me?
@mohammadwasilliterate8037
@mohammadwasilliterate8037 7 месяцев назад
*My dad got the smallest one of these diesel heaters he could find for his caravan, even on the lowest setting he had to have a window or two open, those things really push a lot of heat for little fuel, be great for a house am thinking.*
@baked_onion
@baked_onion 8 месяцев назад
What about the gases that the bsttery gives off while charging??not worried about them being explosive?
@jjcale1976
@jjcale1976 Год назад
I have a very similar diesel heater in my van. It is important not to use the heater constantly on the lowest settings. Give the maximum temperature and rotation of the rotor time. This prevents the build-up of carbon deposits and deposits from unburnt diesel fuel and subsequent damage
@en53kff
@en53kff Год назад
Yes, 100% correct. A couple of minutes blast on full heat before powering off helps. Thanks for that useful comment. 👍🏻
@pauls466
@pauls466 11 месяцев назад
That is BS . Proper settings is the key word . Running on high can soot up as well.
@jjcale1976
@jjcale1976 11 месяцев назад
@@pauls466 As with a diesel engine, it is unhealthy to drive at too low a speed because you will kill the engine and clutch
@Discover-Ireland
@Discover-Ireland 7 месяцев назад
Any link for the y piece and the longer hose thanks
@stevin707
@stevin707 6 месяцев назад
Ive got a cabin out the back. Its got the main office room then a partition for a shed. I was going to set the heater up in the shed side of the cabin. In terms of air intake should i pipe that outside? I wasnt going to bother as the main door to the shed is a corrugated door and there are gaps at the bottom where i can see the ground outside so i was hoping that would be enough to let it draw air in without much fuss. Also does the outlet duct get very hot? I was going to pipe that through the partition wall into the main room of the cabin, the walls are lined with wool insulation and i am just a bit conscious of the possibility of starting a fire
@en53kff
@en53kff 5 месяцев назад
Yes, the exhaust does get very hot. Be careful.
@davidcleghorn5271
@davidcleghorn5271 9 месяцев назад
i see the air intake that goes straight to the heater, what is the other air intake for ?
@zaidmotala1
@zaidmotala1 Год назад
Which make and model you used please i am intending to install one. Thank You kind regards
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