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One of the biggest problems people find when burying heating pipes is that they usually crack the plasterer.
the thing is, expansion from heat is a phenomenal force so rather that trying to force against nature, it's better to work with it.
there are things that plumbers can put around the pipes to give them space to expand but most of the time the plasterer will have to come up with a solution as the culture in the building trade seems to be... Leave it to the next guy.
so if your the next guy, here's a couple of solutions for you that actually work in the real world.
I hope you enjoy this video and thanks for watching 😃👍

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@edthelasttribe9580
@edthelasttribe9580 2 месяца назад
The pipe work run in these days is normal , unless client wants to pay more , believe me many plumbers videos you can watch they only upload good ones , there’s the true sight which you wouldn’t see 😂
@v4yt126
@v4yt126 2 месяца назад
normal for sloppy work but in no way correct
@YoutubeHero666
@YoutubeHero666 Месяц назад
thats not normal thats just plain and simple rough workmanship.
@melvinphillips786
@melvinphillips786 Месяц назад
That's one of the worst installations I have ever seen, those pipes were not installed by a real tradesman, cowboy yes, tradesman no.
@melvinphillips786
@melvinphillips786 Месяц назад
It's all the plastic push fit pipe and fittings and lack of proper apprenticeships, piss poor lead roof work by roofers and lack of pride in work. We were once the envy of the world for our tradesmen, now it's like the wild west.
@markcroft1303
@markcroft1303 Месяц назад
Then you would recommend the plumber if he does that prep first
@pompeyjim
@pompeyjim 2 месяца назад
I'm no plumber, but I'd take a guess that neither is the geezer that did that pipe work.
@delboy6384
@delboy6384 2 месяца назад
My thoughts exactly
@throwawayaccount6517
@throwawayaccount6517 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@olismith7460
@olismith7460 Месяц назад
It probably wasn't the plumbers job to chase the wall out it was probably a builders labourer
@jonmunnings5347
@jonmunnings5347 20 дней назад
Yeah not within any zone at all....gonna be fun when next person buys the house and goes to fix something to the wall. 😂
@paulnixon4489
@paulnixon4489 2 месяца назад
I'm a 55 year old,...... old school gas engineer and belive me I would never leave that rough job to the plasterer. Well rescued . If a customer insists on buried pipework it's definitely being run in 15mm copper and I am definitely chasing the pipes in. And cleaning all my shit up.
@charliewillis8527
@charliewillis8527 Месяц назад
Yes ther not plumbers now its press fit guns and push fit pipes in walls need to be in felt lagging to allow for expansion and corrosion
@esuohdica
@esuohdica Месяц назад
Yeah im counting those speedfit fittings all getting buried!
@stephenkayll5241
@stephenkayll5241 Месяц назад
That plumber should be ashamed leaving it looking like that, but he won't, that's why he left it like that. Well rescued. Lots of great tips, very educational.
@petemoring67
@petemoring67 2 месяца назад
Your Dad's dead right about leaving it smart for the next guy ..... i went to price up a job after work one day - Big posh property - Electric Gates - Security everywhere - Got let in, knocked the door in my old Plastery Clothes, Long Unkempt Hair, looking like a bit of a Homeless Hobo .... The lady who answered the door was visibly SHOCKED! ... She said; "Well now You're here, you'd better come in I suppose" ... The vibes couldn't have been more negative .... Anyway, i got the job because they were desperate! to get it ready for the painter ... I finished it (A Bathroom) got paid and thought I was lucky to get out with that!! ..... Next week, She phones me out of the blue, full of praise because her Painter had told her it was the best plaster finish he'd ever painted over ...... She kept me there, going back every few weeks to do more & more work for Her ... Whether it needed doing or NOT! 😂😂 ... So YES!! - The Moral of the story?? ... Keep it tidy, keep it clean, keep it GOOD! 👍🤠
@Cruioooi78
@Cruioooi78 2 месяца назад
Nobody asked pal
@CEO786
@CEO786 2 месяца назад
⁠@@Cruioooi78I asked, no one asked for your negative input. 😮 nice one Peter! ❤
@Cruioooi78
@Cruioooi78 2 месяца назад
@@CEO786 i dont think so pal , move on its Sunday
@unknownt7648
@unknownt7648 2 месяца назад
@@Cruioooi78who are ya
@weeniebeastie
@weeniebeastie 2 месяца назад
@@unknownt7648I’ll tell you who he is….a right plonker with nothing good to say.
@keithodonnell5152
@keithodonnell5152 Месяц назад
Your apprentice is lucky to have such a good teacher
@jonathanbond915
@jonathanbond915 Месяц назад
If only RU-vid was full of decent videos like this. Not the circus that seems to becoming, sponsored and influenced. Keep up the good work and content.
@jeffsmith2144
@jeffsmith2144 2 месяца назад
That was a Friday afternoon job!!! Plumber could smell the Weatherspoons beer mats 😅😅
@user-dd4qq8zq3d
@user-dd4qq8zq3d 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@StevieMc1971
@StevieMc1971 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@paulsmith2931
@paulsmith2931 Месяц назад
It takes a good tradesman to sort out a bad tradesman’s work, brilliant work there sorting that dodgy plumbers work out, I’m a plumber with 35 years experience and I’ve never left pipe work in that state before👍🏻
@gobbledygook4000
@gobbledygook4000 2 месяца назад
This video should have been posted on the first of April. Calling this job done by a plumber is an April fools joke. Top quality work and advice by Kirk
@Dec38105
@Dec38105 2 месяца назад
absolutely shocking....
@xxnonstopdancingxx
@xxnonstopdancingxx Месяц назад
Decorator here. I'd be over the moon walking into that. Nice job
@user-fq2cf6xf2s
@user-fq2cf6xf2s 2 месяца назад
'If you're a plumber you might consider putting your pipes into some sort of conduit' Love your optimism Kirk, dont ever lose it 😂😂
@jbclassics
@jbclassics Месяц назад
Hello Kirk I'm a time served Plumber with 51yrs experience and my Dad was a Plasterer. If I left pipework like that my life wouldn't be worth living. Just pure laziness and couldn't care less attitude. It is probably functional but just crap work. Plastic has such a high coefficient of expansion! What was he thinking!! Also you can't find it with the stud finder if you wanted to screw into the wall. Anyways you managed to save the job, looked like the customer was thankful😂
@Jonnyturboable
@Jonnyturboable 3 дня назад
Great videos mate I’ve never plastered a wall in my life but I’ve just spent the last 2 and a half hours learning and having a laugh with you! Cheers look after yourself 👍🫡
@Onthetrowel
@Onthetrowel 2 дня назад
🙂🙏 thanks for the support and thanks for commenting mate
@martinmorgan9
@martinmorgan9 27 дней назад
There are many useful tips here about the correct choice of materials - thank you for your detailed explanations as you went along. I was shocked by the clumsy and lazy way the plumber had installed the flexible piping below the radiator - I'd never allow that in MY house!
@eddjordan2399
@eddjordan2399 2 месяца назад
wow that pipework was shocking
@mickclarke5741
@mickclarke5741 Месяц назад
Proper
@stevenhickman8957
@stevenhickman8957 29 дней назад
Great video I always run 15 mm copper or other heating pipes in 20 mm pvc conduit you can then plaster straight over, never cracks after. You can also fit the conduit after the pioes are installed by cutting a line on one side and pressing over the pipes.
@chrisseaber1803
@chrisseaber1803 2 месяца назад
Great workmanship and the fact your being political against the shit work you been left with is a great way to be. Instead of complaining and moaning your giving advice and finding solutions. Love it
@Mobile-pd1uc
@Mobile-pd1uc Месяц назад
Maybe worth waiting till the person paints those patches and then show them in the video at the end. That way we can see how much of a neat job you have done. Excellent work, looks like tough graft but very rewarding.
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 2 месяца назад
Jesus that plumber who did the chase at the start is a cowboy. Using push fit is only ok when you can get to them when they leak, burying them in a wall you’re stuffed. Plastering over copper is also terrible as well as there is a risk that the plaster could attack the copper or solder. You’re spot on with the conduit, allowing for expansion is exactly right.
@Participant616
@Participant616 2 месяца назад
That plumbing is utter shit, how has the customer accepted that?
@steveingram5245
@steveingram5245 2 месяца назад
I'm no plumber, I have got to agree what a sh*t job that Cowboy has done with that pipe work
@neiltitmus9744
@neiltitmus9744 2 месяца назад
Little things wrong make a big difference
@tonykyle5229
@tonykyle5229 2 месяца назад
Those push fit fittings shouldn't be in a wall to start with, then wrap the pipes in hessian lagging, I'm a plumber by the way, shit job from the plumber, not to mention the boiler flue
@paulhugginsantiadvertisements
@paulhugginsantiadvertisements 2 месяца назад
Terrible plumbing no fittings allowed inside the wall its that basic
@cainjake7940
@cainjake7940 2 месяца назад
@@tonykyle5229exactly never bury a pushfit
@malmes999
@malmes999 Месяц назад
36:25 Always think about the others coming in after you ! i was taught that from an old Joiner when i was 17 i said that will do and he went off it with me !! lesson learned from a young age and he was 100% spot on! keep up the good work 👍
@v4yt126
@v4yt126 2 месяца назад
Shoddy plumbing job there
@TheHungryTrollRawr
@TheHungryTrollRawr Месяц назад
I know the money wouldn't be the same, but you'd make a very good plastering college teacher, Kirk. You can see you have a passion for it, I went to college for a different trade and I had an old teacher there Mr. Morris who was brilliant with us. He cared so much we didn't fall behind on our course that he even came in when he was really sick bless him!
@enemyofthestatewearein7945
@enemyofthestatewearein7945 2 месяца назад
Nice work and some great tips. I think a lot of DIY plasterers get put off by starting out with a patch job, not realizing that it's one of the most difficult jobs to do and get a good result. Whole walls are much easier, but I'd recommend anyone's first attempt to be a small ceiling like a WC. Ceilings are easy, because the plaster doesn't fall off the trowel when you work into the edges. That's all kind of counter intuitive.
@winterroadspokenword4681
@winterroadspokenword4681 Месяц назад
Definitely counterintuitive mate. I wouldn’t recommend a ceiling for a learning experience. A pantry wall or airing cupboard back wall would be my shout. Even if you don’t need to do it. Very easy to replaster if you mess up.
@Oliversmith17
@Oliversmith17 2 месяца назад
What a lash up from the plumber rad should of come off and left with tails to the rad valves!! Pony work from the plumber and I’m a bricklayer!!
@rdbanks2823
@rdbanks2823 2 месяца назад
Another ace job Kirk! Its always a complete pleasure watching a master at work! Thank you!
@andicrompton5706
@andicrompton5706 Месяц назад
What I recommend is calling a decent plumber getting him to do his job properly then come in and skim up 👌
@rodgerdodger7912
@rodgerdodger7912 Месяц назад
You skills are tremendous and your a brilliant plasterer without doubt. The plumber should be ashamed of themselves. Horrendous work by them. You'll fix it big man. Don't doubt it!!!!
@LS-td3dz
@LS-td3dz Месяц назад
If only plasterers in my area were like you. Very tidy work mate.
@trust_plumbing
@trust_plumbing 2 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing that mate, im a plumber and tiler but ive never understood plasterers. For my money one of the hardest jobs in the trade so lots of respect. Very diplomatic too, id never have left those pipes like that but your solution was brilliant. Also good to see another Northern lad on the tube, no offence to lads from darn sarf but i often think everone imagines all builders are bald cockneys lol. Cheers brother.
@neilrafferty2097
@neilrafferty2097 2 месяца назад
Shocking work
@RowenaMorgan-fo4cg
@RowenaMorgan-fo4cg 28 дней назад
Thank you so much for this video. I have plasterer arriving in a few days after the electrician have done their thing. I was worried they would see the pipes and say I would have to get the plumbers back out to redo.
@johnkushnirenko4337
@johnkushnirenko4337 2 месяца назад
Another cracking job.well done kirk
@sidefmovies
@sidefmovies Месяц назад
You made that look so easy. Massive respect, skill mixed with experience. Great video thanks.
@paulthompson1154
@paulthompson1154 2 месяца назад
Ive 35 years of plastering Kirk ,fill in ,bed scrim in it used to be (hesian or cotton ) lol ,ive never had any come backs 👍
@lestertennysonsmith-xw2fm
@lestertennysonsmith-xw2fm 2 месяца назад
I done a bit o diy plastering recently and found myself saying in my mind "take a little bit,go in neat" lol
@riptiz
@riptiz 2 месяца назад
That pipework looks shocking stuck out the wall. Nice job Kirk. 👍Regards, Dave
@johnjtplastering6991
@johnjtplastering6991 Месяц назад
If going to have pipework stick out the wall at least put it in an electrical box with blanking plate and drill holes out for pipes shocking pipework that
@darrenmcguirk667
@darrenmcguirk667 2 месяца назад
Amazing video Kirk. Just learnt even more. Thanks.❤
@simbosimbo
@simbosimbo Месяц назад
being plastering 10 plus years and I'm still learning new skills , kirk i take my hat off to you your a credit to all plasterers I've learnt new skills watching your videos thank you 👍👍👍
@topgazza
@topgazza Месяц назад
Beautifully described. Your apprentice will learn the right way to do things
@chrisowen8664
@chrisowen8664 2 месяца назад
Hi Thanks for a very good and straightforward video ,your work is first class and magic .From an old decorator ,who does small plastering projects and would like to be as skilled as you .Regards Chris 👍😁
@donatoferioli7426
@donatoferioli7426 Месяц назад
I'm glad somebody else uses Easyfix foam. I don't feel like as much as a Cowboy.
@bigjohn5689
@bigjohn5689 2 месяца назад
That pipework is shocking
@joekeo318
@joekeo318 24 дня назад
The plumber must be smoking the pipe first
@MarcusT86
@MarcusT86 2 месяца назад
Fantastic as always Kirk
@arifdhirani8586
@arifdhirani8586 Месяц назад
Great video Kirk, very helpful- thanks!
@michellefoster1020
@michellefoster1020 29 дней назад
At least you work with other trades plumbers electricians not against them. So nice to see x
@maxwellmc9734
@maxwellmc9734 Месяц назад
Brilliant information and great to see how you fix the bits we never see..
@marcjonkers6774
@marcjonkers6774 Месяц назад
You are a true professional, amazing!
@gtube6913
@gtube6913 Месяц назад
These yt videos are so important to show us, good people are in the labour trades. Uploader can't go do a poor job now either with this reference video.😅
@lifter98
@lifter98 2 месяца назад
Great. I love seeing attention to detail on a job…
@dangermouse00
@dangermouse00 2 месяца назад
The days when one trade left everything neat n tidy for the next are long gone. Sadly we live in a fast paced what it done now society,allowing those void of interity earn a wage with minimal effort. Nice to see someone with pride in their work.
@Smeisterman
@Smeisterman 2 месяца назад
Your videos are priceless 👏Thank you 🙏
@youtoob1811
@youtoob1811 Месяц назад
So many great tips, but that tip of marking the around the already cut plasterboard and then cutting the hole is great. Could've used that many times in the past.
@TheBigstve
@TheBigstve 28 дней назад
You are a very good plaster mate, credit where due.
@iain2979
@iain2979 2 месяца назад
Lovely job Kirk
@letloverule100
@letloverule100 Месяц назад
Pure craftsmanship
@70scoff
@70scoff Месяц назад
You're a smart man that thinks about his work at his expense? Do the best job at all costs
@marcmcgettigan3580
@marcmcgettigan3580 15 дней назад
brilliant work pleasure to watch
@stevenclark1973
@stevenclark1973 2 месяца назад
Brilliant.. very neat. Great tips.
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 Месяц назад
Many many years ago, a well meaning person told me to wrap the pipes in scrunched up tin foil to prevent cracking. It went on a treat,- holds itself in place great. Ten years later all my pipes are starting to pinhole. Electrolytic corrosion caused by aluminium in contact with copper. So, don't be tempted to do that.
@scotthaxell556
@scotthaxell556 Месяц назад
Top job m8 … I was a Artexer and if you come to a pattern is on thick scrape it off and apply SBR leave for 24 hrs and you can apply your plaster and your never ever a problem if you use pva you still have to wait 24hrs for applying your plaster, if you do this artex won’t remove from the ceiling or walls this is only if you have to scrape back Artex ❤ love your channel 🙏🏽
@cannonEDHA
@cannonEDHA Месяц назад
Lovely work mate
@declanbutler5876
@declanbutler5876 2 месяца назад
Nice job . I know loads of plasterers that can't patch . Its completely different to skimming walls . Decorator will have no bother with them patches .
@antonpollard2693
@antonpollard2693 2 месяца назад
Kirk might be an idea for the kids tshirt "lil plasterer in the mix" 😊 Great work!
@catweasel5166
@catweasel5166 2 месяца назад
Hi mate. Don’t know if you’ll see this but I’ve done 2 artex ceilings over the Easter weekend having never plastered before. Your videos have been brilliant to give me the confidence (which is most important) to tackle it. I need a bit of caulking around the edges but other than that I’m well happy with the results and no plasterer would do the job anyway as it was too little work.
@markhannan4712
@markhannan4712 2 месяца назад
Brilliant work mate
@benclarkson4205
@benclarkson4205 Месяц назад
When I saw the thumbnail I knew the comments section was going to be gold!
@davidmelling9301
@davidmelling9301 2 месяца назад
Top class mate nice clean work it's Really hard to patch up and it be dead on
@TheYorkshireCarper
@TheYorkshireCarper Месяц назад
quality job lads.
@grahamcolquhoun2295
@grahamcolquhoun2295 2 месяца назад
Nice one very helpful, thank you
@ibuybritish
@ibuybritish 17 дней назад
Nice job.
@iwishcolincampbell1541
@iwishcolincampbell1541 29 дней назад
Brilliant work mate . I only wish I could get the mix right when plastering.
@DangerousDaveSlater
@DangerousDaveSlater 2 месяца назад
Exactly what I do.. made me laugh, literally everything you do step by step is exactly the same as me. Good man Kirk, nice job - proper job 💪👏👏👏👌😎
@Onthetrowel
@Onthetrowel Месяц назад
Thanks 👍
@stuntmanwill
@stuntmanwill Месяц назад
They’ve gone to all that effort to have hidden pipes, then left it looking dog poo under the radiator!
@danfenton89
@danfenton89 2 месяца назад
Great job again mate 🧱👌
@jimcameron4672
@jimcameron4672 2 месяца назад
Excellent
@cliveramsbotty6077
@cliveramsbotty6077 2 месяца назад
that 'plumber' has had an absolute shocker mate
@ernestogonzalez17
@ernestogonzalez17 2 месяца назад
Great videos mate !
@nickrider815
@nickrider815 Месяц назад
I literally thought of using spray foam a few months ago and did my channels with that. I also added stainless mesh over the barrier pipe so the plaster has added strength from the mesh. It also means the pipes should show up on detectors so no one sticks a nail through them. Gutted I wasn't the first to think of the foam though 😢
@mal6297
@mal6297 2 месяца назад
great job
@johnsmart4692
@johnsmart4692 2 месяца назад
Good post learned a few good tips 🎯✅😁🧐
@user-Wojciech
@user-Wojciech 2 месяца назад
Great, April half term break trip booked and nothing but rain still. The only hope is that it will just drizzle occasionally.
@Jackzuk
@Jackzuk 2 месяца назад
How turning up to that plumbing work did not make u angry i dont know, but then i made it looks so easy when fixing it, legend
@poohpot4462
@poohpot4462 2 месяца назад
Another gem! Btw what's the plastic gear you cover the floor with to prevent spills and thrills?
@user-py2mx9rx6e
@user-py2mx9rx6e 2 месяца назад
I've used sbr and you definitely get flashing with it kirk
@Onthetrowel
@Onthetrowel 2 месяца назад
Did you use itbover paint or over bare plaster mate?
@neilwood8794
@neilwood8794 2 месяца назад
Kirk does emulsion water based paint cover any excess SBR being most water based does not like covering PVA.. cheers bud 👍
@julianlyons711
@julianlyons711 Месяц назад
Good video and info like your style .. keep it up
@user-jh8no1zb9e
@user-jh8no1zb9e Месяц назад
Damn - this guy is good
@joeglabus7255
@joeglabus7255 2 месяца назад
Yes kirk i have pipes in same situation and thats just confirmed what i was going to 👍i wzs going lag pipes and bond it and skim. And i got a good plumber in 😂
@ed-channel3986
@ed-channel3986 Месяц назад
you done a good job, I always say plumbers should never touch cables...but your plumber should neither touch pipes 😂
@723matthew07
@723matthew07 Месяц назад
I just did a patch job on ceiling around some drop down pipes where the plumber broke a chunk of plaster off. I wrapped them with some rubber from a bike tyre, patched right up to rubber and ended up with decent circular gap around each pipe after removing rubber.
@dccowell56
@dccowell56 2 месяца назад
good job, l always use a damp sponge for cleaning down with clean water, l also have 4in skrim which covers better l think, anyway fine job they can be a pain.
@johnwealthy6044
@johnwealthy6044 6 дней назад
Nice work Kirk!!. How deep will the pink foam work to? I have short 25cm vertical chases to fill in on each side of the radiator as I have taken out both 15mm copper pipes which were buried into the wall. So it has left about 30mm deep x 50mm wide chases to fill. (Then skim over - but might use easyfill for small area)
@davidharding3058
@davidharding3058 2 месяца назад
Hi kirk. Supper Sunday afternoon watch. I've noticed that plumbers don't seem to care who's coming after them and just leave a f ing mess you would think as a tradesmen that they would understand but they don't care same as electrician's, it's called plaster not magic powder. Yes I agree it do make things disappear And look . 😂😂🍻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@jonezkat
@jonezkat Месяц назад
So many helpful tips here, nice one. Do you have any recommendations for trowels?
@adambradley8645
@adambradley8645 2 месяца назад
Lovely neat job kirk, but my god, that plumbing work was rough. But you left a fantastic neat job ready for painting for a very kind decent customer 👍. Where are those spatulas from, they'd be dead handy, ive used old credit type cards in the past but they've got a bit more reach. Atb kirk 🙂
@ianjasper5343
@ianjasper5343 Месяц назад
Great video thanks for sharing. Bit random but what floor protector do you use?
@3in1m23
@3in1m23 Месяц назад
I use TRIM TEX reinforced tape - resists cracking like no other. Costs a little more but there's none better.
@mickshillito2199
@mickshillito2199 2 месяца назад
Well done kirk another silk purse made out of a sows ear 😂 hope you're watching and learning Leyton 😅 great camera work bye the way x
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