Helios 44m-6. Full lubrication tutorial 

Hi my friend! I've just bought an helios 44m-7 and followed your tutorial on how to put it in manual aperture with success! But my focus ring is not working and it looks like it has no grip over the lens which does not come in and out. Do you think that I have to go throught the whole disassembly process or I can just repair it from the front?

Glad it was helpful!

@@RetroFotoHouse I used this video for a Helios 44-7.

And this worked off course for the 44-7

You're welcome!

Well, it is really difficult in this case... You should than drill these 2 little holes, otherwise it is almost impossible to unscrew front ring

@@RetroFotoHouse I have had a 44M-6 version that has no holes on the front ring. It just clipped on and I had to prise it off with a small screwdriver.

Hi Tom! I never tried, but why not? I do not see any obstacles there

Hi! Thank you. Yes, it is the same.

Frankly speaking, i had only this modification. However i've serviced dozens of them. Is it rare?

Probably not I just need to play with it.

it is difficult to say what's wrong without have seen the lens

you can tighten 4 screws holding external focus ring with internal brass one from the front.

I'm afraid not

Thanks for your reply, so the focusing ring is different?

он на защелках. отверткой поддеть аккуратно

с задней лучше выкрутить задний линзоблок

разобрался, надо и сзади и спереди всё разбирать, и из линзоблока доставать весь механизм диафрагмы,по контуру 3мя винтами держится. Спасибо

it was reassembled wromgly by someone. Difficult to say what the matter is

i don't have it anymore. Try lithium based grease with medium softness and it will fit well

Thanks very much for the info @@RetroFotoHouse

Well, the only thing i can advice-to drill 2 little holes on opposite sides of the ring and than to use a lens wrench to remove that ring.

Modern lenses are made this way to stop people from opening them for repair and cleaning. Repairmen use rubber cups. They grip to the ring and allow for easier turning/unscrewing. You can find them on ebay: 10-15$ for one cup or around $40 for the entire set.

i think it is because of old grease on the blades. In this case full disassembly and cleaning of aperture will help

No i don't. Try to screw it in using your fingers in rubber glooves.

ordinary lithium based grease, it performs well

@@RetroFotoHouse thank you very much! Could you advice me if FUCHS RENOLIT UNI 2 or MAXIMA GREASE WODOODPORNY is better in this case? Or maybe you can recommend anything specific which is available internationally? Btw. I heard that grease bassed on oils are not suitable for lanses 🤔

at 15.06 in this video 2 parts are visible, screwed to the lens barrel with 2 screws each. In majority of cases they are worn or need adjusting. Though this is video about helios44m-6, but helios 44m-4 is the same inside.

@@RetroFotoHouse thank for the feed back on this... I managed to.fix the focus ring. But I cleaned the lenses and I think I mis assembled the back lense elelmes / parts. More parts came out that what u show on video cleaning back lenses. I looked up diagram of lenses in system think I have them in right except possibly for the black spacer ring on 1st element. Given trying many different assemblies it still takes blurry photos, even though my camera is showing in focus by focus peaking. Wondering I'd I mis assembled front lense assembly or didn't clean lenses properly. Not that I did not regressed the focusing mechanism. Only pulled lense group put and cleaned from, then pulled back lense group and cleaned them. So wondering if I goofed the optical block assembly somehow? I appreciate the follow up on my initial question so don't feel u need to follow up on my second problem. God bless and thanks for your videos.

yes, good way is to assemble it properly and infinity will be there

yes, good way is to assemble it properly and infinity will be there

André Filipe without markings it will be difficult. If you wish you can send it to me fir repair Price is $15+shipping

@@RetroFotoHouse Thanks for the reply. Since this lens is so cheap I'll just put it on eBay for parts at a lower price and buy another one.

this wont work with this lens, please try helios 44-2

Hi! Can you please show me where i say that all line is the same? Helios 44m-4 to 44m-7 are roughly the same for lubrication. Helios 44m is different inside

well, it depends if you need camera. Fungal growth in viewfinder is a headache....

Hello @@RetroFotoHouse, Thanks for your response. I got the camera last week. I got the lens cleaned and set up correctly from a local camera repair shop I found that repairs analog cameras. The aperture blades had oil on them which was causing them to malfunction. The technician also cleaned the camera's mirror. But he said they don't undertake Russian camera repairs because of their weird setup, so that is all he could do as far as servicing goes. He also said the penta-prism is damaged, so viewing will be difficult. I think I might try to open and clean the fungus on the viewfinder myself. I also got compatible batteries today and the light meter LEDs are also lighting up when I put them in. Looks like it will work. I'll run a test roll through it to see how it goes. If nothing, it'll still make a great show piece at home. All in all a great deal for less than 30$. Thanks and cheers. Best wishes of Christmas and New Year!

hi have you done yours...

hi can you assist me cdavey06@gmail.com

Hi, it's really similar, but the cap with the brand Helios come out with a pressure

No they aren't. Practically the same construction. Only optic differs

Retro Foto House , excellent! Thank you! Love your channel, keep up the good work.

hi, is the 44m-5 the same construction?

@@tonimontana1480 I believe they are all the same.

я, честно говоря, не знаю.

@@RetroFotoHouse хочу как время будет, протравить хлорным железом... конечно же сперва попробую на каком нибудь доноре)) честно говоря, не знаю что из этого выйдет... посмотрим)) спасибо ✋🤝

Well, without markings it is difficult task. That's why i emphasise the importance of this step...

@@RetroFotoHouse It turns out that there are faint markings in the spots where the screws put pressure on the block to hold it down, but my aperture still doesn't actuate properly. The pusher moves freely and the aperture opens and closes with it. Is there a possibility of the brass ring that moves with the aperture ring is messed up or bent? I am quite certain that the cause of my problems is that the hook that moves the pusher and the brass ring in the rear part of the lens are out of shape. is there a way to fix this properly or do I have a dead lens?

@@mariospantouvanos4645 show me a foto of a hook at retrofotohouse@gmail.com

Hi! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--BxLnveJ2yU.html

Retro Foto House Sorry, but it seems that my blades are oily or something. Do you have a fix for this problem? Thanks

Astral'o Pithecus yes, that’s a right solution

@@RetroFotoHouse I tried but it didn't work. The screwdrivers I have are really thin, and the screws have a wide canal. The bigger screwdrivers on the other hand are too big for the screws. I ended up just lubricating the helicoid with some silicon oil with a syringe, I moved the focus back and forth until it got smooth enough. I could fill the dust and dirt between the threads, but it worked in the end. Anyway, thanks for the response and this great video, I wouldn't have done anything without your help :)

it is not common. what factory and what year of production is your lens of?

hi can you assist me cdavey06@gmail.com

no, zenitar is different

hi have you done yours...

@@cdavey061 hi, I did, not long after this comment. It worked, but I didn't pay attention to where it came out of the heliocoid, so focussing at infinity was slightly off.

@@eduardotinajero2901 hi i have the 44m-4 and i need to know how the two springs attach to the aperture arm assembly if you email me cdavey06@gmail.com i can send you picture if you can assist...

@@cdavey061 Hi David. sorry. although I have used this lens, I don't have any exp disassembling it. Best of luck!

No, it can't, unfortunately....

hi have you done yours...

Hi! Please take a look at: www.ebay.com/itm/222770568492 www.ebay.com/itm/322951162250 www.ebay.com/itm/322923471859

Thank you, I have a question regarding shipping, can you give me your email? Thanks

Bruno Garcia retrofotohouse@gmail.com

it is very similar to helios 44m-6

do we need any extra markings on the 44-m4? I would like to try but don't want to mess up the lens. Thank you for your videos!

No, you don't. Just follow up instructions showed and you'll be fine

how about 77m-4? please i need to fix focus ring it is too stiff.

if could wait a bit, i vill record a video explaining process in details. Thank you for your interest

you can try to find the same cheap lens in parts or repair condition and take that part form it. I do not know any other solution

@@RetroFotoHouse Thanks for answering. Infact i'm just looking for another one.

From what i see-this is helios 44m-6 lens

Ukraine

yes, focusing mechanism is the same

hi did you do yours...

@@cdavey061 hi. yes i did thanks. tutorial was very helpful and accurate. i didn't take helicoid apart completely - just added new grease where I could. but it has helped somewhat.

@@wreford07 hi i have the helios 44m 4 and it has been tampered with therefore i need to know how the springs in the aperture arm mechanism go together if you can assist please email me cdavey06@gmail.com

@@cdavey061 Oh. That's a pain. Sorry, but I've not taken the aperture mechanism apart yet - and don't intend to unless it breaks! Does the video have any close ups on that? It's been a long time and I can't recall.

Hi! At 11.49 are visible screws holding together black focusing ring and inner yellow brass part. You need to tighten them. Problem is solved

@@RetroFotoHouse OMG thank you so much!It worked! Now i can finally use this lens with my Zenit 11.

@@micuna5743 Did you solve it?

@@oussamasafarzitoun502 yes ,look at his comment

@@RetroFotoHouse Ohh thanks a lot you save my lens dude

Yes, it can

Retro Foto House thank you . Love your tutorials it helps me a lot how to remove it by DIY. Keep it up

because english is an universal language of conversation, widespread all around a world. hope you can understand this.