Helldivers 2: I Unlocked & Tested EVERYTHING In the New Warbond ❄️ 

Use code FALLOUT50 to get 50% OFF your first Factor box plus 20% off your next month at bit.ly/3TmCUWy Dear Arrowhead: Pls buff the Tenderizer 🙏

So based of Arrowhead to nerf the warbond weapons before they're released as opposed to a couple patches later.

i think these warbonds were made way before game’s release, so the weapons released now did not take into effect any of the previous buffs. Tenderizer is definitely supposed to have more dmg that the liberator lol.

the purifier should have been the plasma equivalent of the erruptor. destroy fabricators, one shot big enemies, larger explosion ect

They need to start giving these armors unique passives or something because it is always the same 4 passives

As someone who fights a lot of bots and loves using the ballistic shield, the Pummeler definitely has my attention more than anything else in this warbond.

Clearly this man doesn't knownthe pain of throwing an impact just when a hunter jumps right in front of you

I personally believe weapons are being released underpowered so the team can balance them out over time, instead of the new warbond having the latest and greatest weapons every release

Arrowhead: Nerfs Items Arrowhead 1 week later: Buffs all the items they just nerfed Arrowhead another week later: Nerfs all the items they buffed

The purifier needs a faster charge up time for the damage it currently dishes out. It feels like I'm barely doing any more damage than a single scorcher round... While taking 2 seconds to charge up each shot.

I think the Verdict's main advantage is gonna be ammo supply at 8(+1) 10 round mags. The Senator has the advantage on damage and pen, but at 40(+6) has half the overall ammo. The redeemer comes with 4(+1) mags which you can absolutely BURN through if you're not careful I think it make a good pairing with guns like the eruptor, giving you a reliable sidearm with a solid ammo supply to supliment a harder hitting, but slow to reload primary

I absolutely *hate* that Arrowhead released a winter warfare themed warbond with absolutely zero winter-themed equipment. This could have been a time to add cryo ammo to the game, or give us some armors for snow planets, but instead we just got three armor sets with new designations (CW) and recycled perks, and boring, uninspired weapons. AH have said they don't want to slow down the cadence of 1 monthly warbond, but if this is the quality we can expect from them going forward, I'll be really disappointed. Saving my super credits and giving this one a miss.

God I wanted the tenderizer to be good so badly

This is the same thing I’ve been saying to other people who play there’s so many things that don’t make any sense in this game. The incendiary breaker has one less bullet then the spray and pray and does more damage and damage over time. if you were going to name some the spray and pray and give it less damage than another variant of the weapon then it needs to have more than one extra bullet…. I love this game. I just wish that they would stop Nerf guns and start buffing guns if the erupted is something people love to play with and it’s powerful, but it is balanced or was balanced then use that as a example of what to do with other people aren’t playing with instead of Nerfing it into the ground. to try to force people to play with other shit weapons

This warbond kinda confirms something I've been posting My two cents. Weapons have 0 idenity. Weapon A fires twice as fast as weapon B with half the damage. Weapon C has twice the mag but takes half its time to reload. Weapon D is accurate and high damage but slow to fire.... these are the same weapon. Polar weapons. Where is my ice and slow? Cutting edge.. where is my high tech? We got one niche weapon out. Assault rifles spit bullets fast, marksman shoot slower but a bit harder, smg are one handed but less hard hitting... it's the same. The nerfs are a monument to mediocrity. Make somone argue why the adjudicator is better or as good as the liberator and have the liberator person have good points too... make your weapons memorable cause so far they are literally... all the same. If something new isn't stronger, or feels different, why do we want 20 assault rifles that all kill the same rate in the same ways?

Every premium warbond thus far has had an overwhelmingly mediocre arsenal

Current balance lead was the reason another game completely tanked at release. Guy couldn't balance a brick on a flat surface

I started inwardly cringing when you were going on about how viable the pummeler & the nade are. I feel like any enthusiastic enjoyment of a weapon will get it nerfed. It's a shame, but that's what it literally feels like. Neutering the railgun and eruptor hurt, and I refuse to use the incendiary breaker because it's too good, works too well, and is fun. So I know it will be nerfed eventually, and don't want to build around it knowing it will change.

So based on how fast they are releasing Warbonds, the Tenderizer was likely designed over a month ago prior to the patch that buffed the Liberator. So at the time it was designed, it was supposed to be a slightly better Liberator with 60dmg over the like 50 (or 55?) dmg the Liberator had. So instead of the weapon being "bad", it just needs to be buffed to fall in line with how the other weapons got adjusted a little while ago. So I wouldn't be surprised if they either make the Tenderizer a medium penetrating gun or they'll boost the damage to like 70.

I feel like the tenderizer originally had more damage than the liberator before the patch but then they forgot to change it. I feel like it should do 75 damage without medium pen. Kinda like an alternative to the adjudicator. Similar damage but higher rate of fire and no pen

I cant be the only one who is massivly disapointed by the fact that their is like 3 types armour passives, its not even in the "theme" of the warbond.

Been enjoying light armor with extra grenades+ SMG with stagger * Impact Incendiaries for crowd control. Can gather adds into one place, set them on fire and keep them there Hipfire and Rover for added awareness and DPS, and EATs for the occasional quick shot into a charger.

Very glad to see another SMG. Stuns looks super useful, but I'm not sure if it's enough to use it over something with more power (and penetration). I'm still hoping for a silenced SMG in the future. That'd go hard.

Smg pummeler is how all guns should be. Weaker stats but its edge is that stopping power it has. I was shooting a charger in the leg that was stripped of armor and it stopped it dead in its tracks. Took a few more bullets than I think the defender would. This is how a weapon should be balanced

I have only tried the tenderizer so far. It was fine, I was able to get through a suicide mission with out regretting my choice in primary. The main thing that trips me up when choosing a primary is just how good the sickle is. There are other things that are comparable damage wise, and even just over all performance. What sets the sickle apart so drastically for me is how you don't need to reload if you're paying attention. It starts to get close to over heating, switch to your secondary, or a support weapon, toss a few grenades, or an eagle. By the time you switch back, it's at least half way or fully recharged. Any time I use the sickle, it just feels like I never have to stop shooting.

The Tenderizer has more reserve mags than the Liberator - similarly, the Verdict has more reserve magazines than the Redeemer. Its worth mentioning that these guns may be a little more ammo efficient as a result, but in horde games, you need DPS as the waves grow, not ammo efficiency.

I love how now when the community issues complaints they just say "oh this isnt working as intended we'll fix it" Also why does only 1 weapon from this warbond have medium pen? Its like theyre designing the game around difficulty 1-4

When you said "enjoy the hell out of the pummeler" you forgot to add "before they nerf it into the ground".

Was really hoping the new pistol would be a Deagle type. Something with low ammo but either penetration or stagger.

We are gonna need more creative and thematic armors next time.

Impacts are bad for hitting up vents or bug holes, meanwhile regular incendiary does have similar area denial capability. Granted, I don't use incendiary anymore because a good primary means you don't have to.

Verdicts total damage is insane, 10k total in those 8 mags makes it an easy choice

honestly, the purifier is not that bad, after getting used to it, its S tier for medium to long range crowd control weapon. I do believe they are gonna buff it damage wise in the next patch, the verdict is also fun to use, verdict for smaller enemies and purifier for medium enemies. cant wait to try it out on automaton.

Still praying for the day I get a cool medkit armor that doesn’t make me look like a Christmas themed garden gnome

Motivational shocks works with all forms of stun and stagger. Ive found that it lets me shoot the autocannon closer to myself without getting knocked over, and if I do I get up almost instantly. It's now a must use IMO along with vitality

I think the pummeler has a good niche in a support weapon. Lot of bezerkers recently with automatons, and they will chase the absolute hell out of my teammates, blocking them from doing most things until the zerkers are dead. This lets me put a stop to the zerkers long enough for my team to down the bigger threats, and then we can all turn back on the zerkers. Also has the effect of really bunching them together if you stagger your shots and 'shepard' the flock around a bit. With the ballistic shield, this makes it a great stopgap vs shield devestators and can put a rocket dev out of the running for a little bit while our sniper handles it. We got another teammate with the diligence counter sniper and he takes out rocket pods in 2 hits-ish, along with picking off the rocket troopers. If he's got more time he can snipe the heads but they're hard to hit with everything happening. Every other bot just shoots lasers, so the shield tanks it all while the snipers happily munch the rest away. Tanks and hulks are dealt with by stun grenade + lazer cannon/AMR. I don't feel like I'm killing a lot of bots with the weapon though, I feel more like a true tank that's keeping everything stunlocked around while the DPS do their job without getting hassled.

I think the difference between the Incendiary grenades is the ability to cook. So with the impact, you get instant delivery. Handy for a quick reaction. But with the Standard, the ability to cook the nade makes it slightly more versatile. As in if you cook and throw above a group you can catch a tonne of targets. (Not saying that this is consistent or definitive, but this is what I've noticed in usage.)

The fused grenade shine on bug hole/fabricators. Sometimes the impacts blow up before going into the hole all the way. Another thing about the fused ones is you have the option to throw/roll it under groups of enemies (esp bugs) and it blows under them, it can be really effective.

It's good to have the g10 incendiary when doing blitz or just targeting bug holes in general as the impact incendiary seems to have "flaming shrapnel" that set you on fire even if your about a meter or 2 away from the blast radius

3:38 G1 got sent flying 😂

Respect for actually waking up at 5 am, instead of setting an alarm and going back to sleep

Lower rate of fire is what i personally prefer. With high fire rate on ur primary assault, its easier to waste hella ammo. High rate secondary like the old pistol semi automatic? Perfect as a secondary.

The new SMG is great against enemies that can rush you down quickly. I usually fight at the bot front and it super effective against Devastators and berzerks

One user in chat thinks that the warbonds themselves were made way before the games release (Which is common for some games) and the weapons are supposed to do more damage then the previous ones, so all I can say is give the devs some time as they still have a lot on their plate

incendiary nade since you're wondering: the fuse one you can drop at your feet and dive/run away and not take damage from it by the time it explodes, impact one you can't really throw it next to you or at all without setting yourself on fire if you're overwhelmed.

Eruptor is still my go to primary, i like to stand back and snipe things, good for biles and bigger things, and taking out large groups, also being able to shoot a bug hole with it is very nice. Always run the revolver as a side, now i use new deagle pistol. I use the stalwart as my main weapon though, 1100 rpm mode

Adjudicator blew hot ass when that Warbond dropped. Now it's good as hell. I think they release them semi intentionally bad so they can use player experiences to buff/nerf stuff where it needs it.

It's clear they don't want to make the warbands pay for better equipment. But it's it's just worse than what I have why even buy it?

What I think they need is to make weapons for certain enemies in mind. Pummeler for stalkers, a pistol that can snipe that does higher damage no pen. A pistol that does not do alot of damage but can deal with strinders. Another granade pistol with another type of granade would be cool. A pistol that distracts bugs and automatons would be interesting (2 ammo shoots something that has the coding agro of a turret.)

Armors need new passive traits, verdict needs more damage or medium armor penetration, tenderizer needs a lot more damage, or just a bit more but with medium armor penetration. The purifier needs either more damage or more ammo plus faster charge up. And an adjustable scope.

You can still use the incendiary grenade to destroy fabricators and bug holes, where as the impact incendiary, like the regular impact, can be done but is harder

Few thoughts about balancing. I’m not for “never nerf”. I bought super credits to support Arrowhead. However, I lost joy with the last balancing patches. Why: A big part the game is the feeling. Weapons have weight, enemies react to hits and we don’t scale only by HP. Great. BUT, the feeling is disturbed with enemy buffs. Trailer/early gameplay allows killing a bile titan via EAT headshot. Doesn't work now. Spawn increased. More big foes and less effective weapons. For casuals (me) this turns HD2 into a “runaway simulator” at high diff (which I need for progress by samples…). More skilled players probably enjoy the higher difficulty. That’s why I have some suggestions regarding the balancing: • Let heavy weapons be heavy hitters • Don’t try to balance the game like its an e-sports title. It isn’t • Don’t punish players for playing with 1 or 2 friends • Drastically increase difficulty for 8 and 9 (compared to 1-7), so “dad gamers” can get their progression (a bit slower) while enthusiasts can have their challenge • More diverse loadouts by enemy resistances (please no physical). Breaker incendiary gets less interesting a certain % of enemies may have fire resistance. Same for gas, lightning, etc. • Increase toughness of big enemies by adding ERA for heavy Automaton units. And a symbiosis with another armored bug that tanks a hit before the Titans head is vulnerable. Use small bugs riding a titan and throwing thorns in the direction of incoming EAT. Spawn these with normal enemies (while their share rises in high difficulties). The games core superb. We have fun playing it. It’s not a chore (like playing 1h of boring repetitive WoW quests every day to even be able to play the interesting parts once a week), it’s not ridiculously time consuming (like Diablo 4s get a best in class). I (and all my friends) stopped playing these games because we don’t need a second job. But Pilestedts last replies make me optimistic that we might keep playing Helldivers 2 for longer.

incendiary grenade is far weaker than i expected. it doesn't set things on fire, as soon as anything moves out of the fire, the flame goes out on them.

Good video. I think I'll prefer the OG Incediary grenades over the impact because I'm usually not trying to instakill things with it and it's easier to lob into bug holes.

Definitely gonna check out that smg 🫡

I feel like the Tenderizer was made before the Liberator buff, if it matched the damage of say of the Defender. It'll be a solid choice.

I honestly love the weapons, I think people forget that this game is a Hoard Shooter and expect every gun to be some how way better than the originals, it is more about variety than it is finding the BEST GUNS. just a personal take. Meanwhile the passive traits could need more variety than it does but armour has always been more about personal taste than it has changing the dynamic of how you play. Example: Trailblazer being so popular despite the passive being virtually useless in a gunfight. Overall, decent warbond. Also, throwing it out there, lower rate of fire on top of low recoil is much better than people give credit for, Tenderiser isn't bad, i am hitting a lot more heads than i do using the Liberator and personally enjoy the lower magazine size with the 10 reserve, just need to aim a little more carefully instead of mag dumping.

I think the tenderizer is supposed to have the same stagger effect as the pummeler. However it doesn't. Definitely should.

I personally love the new nade when killing bugs, you just melt stuff. Take napalm eagle strike and blanket map in fire.

As someone who just used them in a couple of matches 1 the smg is just the liberator concussive just one handed and a bit weaker 2 the new A.R is a liberator copy and paste different sound and maybe rate of fire 3 the last one is just a slower but more powerful scorcher

This pass seems like mostly a big whiff, bummer!

Finally, someone can read the twab to me now

Wow, the Tenderizer seems a contender on being WORSE than Liberator explosive because that thing has ginormous amount of ammo and ability to control crowds.

Motivational shock would be awesome in a defend mission with multiple EMS mortars. If you could run through the stun and glue bots in place.

Love this guy

in regards to the Incend Impact have the same stats the regular Impact is the same way having the same stats so makes sense it would follow suit

We were incredibly spoiled by the Cutting Edge warbond. Completely unique armor traits... Sweet Liberty, we need more.

Motivational shocks looks like its doing nothing... Itd have to completely nullify slows to be worth taking

I like to play the non premium shotgun you unlock from very first or 2nd page for like 3 medals. I found a pummeller dropped by a dead helldiver, I picked it up and played the whole match with it. I didn't like it for lack of damage.

The liberator is a great. People hate on ot because its the default. After its most recent buff, its one if the best primaries for trash mobs

Pummeler with the ballistic shield would go insane

I saw stagger on shield devistators. I'm sold on the plas. Railgun can't do that. Fixes my load out. Drop Railgun for amr and take the new plas. 🤔 Means I can shift off of impact nades for shield devistators possibly

Regular incendiary is good for distractions while stealing and cuz it can bounce into a bug hole or the refinery if you miss

Disappointed. I was hoping the new pistol would be a medium penetrating hard-hitter like a Desert Eagle. Also still waiting for a bullet hose SMG. It's so weird that the best pewpewpew SMG is... a secondary.

The fact the verdict doesn't have medium armor pen is upsetting.

I had hopes for the pummeler, for a balistic shield build against the bot devastators. It stuns the lower chaff but does nothing against devastators. Shield is pretty much no use against bugs. The incendiary nade is good the rest of the warbond guns are a let down. Muscle enhancer i feel to be better than the motavational shocks, the shocks shoulda given you a speed boost on stun.

Dominater, quasar cannon and my uzi is all I will ever need. As long as they dont nerf it. Still kinda sad about the time increase on the cannon but i can manage.

Would love a new meta video after the recent patches!

You missed the new Superstore armor, winter wolf armor looks like space marine armor, and the grenadier Hvy armor not only looks cool but has a unique perk for the Heavy class. Its the only one with engineer stat.

I had high hopes for the pistol. Gives me Deagle vibes. Hopefully they can buff it and give it around the same damage as the revolver.

As mid as the Tenderizer is, it feels like its got 100 Stability and 100 Handling. The mid damage profile is forgivable for now because the recoil and accuracy make it very good at focused fire against bot weakspots. What I can't forgive is how it doesn't refill full ammo from resupply.

You're the first RU-vid who noticed that pumeller completely stuns stalkers

the pummeler is what i thought the BR-55- i mean tenderizer was going to be, staggering enemys with a lower firing rate

I really wish they can revert some nerfs because man this warbound feels underwhelming and the nerfs made half of the weapons feel more painful to use as well

I was hoping the new plasma weapon would be a heavier hitting scorcher, which it is but it doesn’t seem to hit hard enough or fast enough to be a viable alternative.

bought the new warbond for the Pummerler its my new fav bug primary

Pummeler with ballistic shield on bots is perfection though.

The tenderizer is far inferior to the Jar 5 Dominator I normally equip. Why bring out new weapons if they aren't any good or better than what is currently available? It makes no sense.. The new grenade is good but the other are meh..

The difference between those two incendiary grenades is actually quite simple It has to do with versatility Impact is good for doing direct damage and getting it out right away but as a whole an impact cannot really close a bug nest they'll usually hit a side of it and explore before actually gets inside Where the other one maintains is integrity until the timer ends which will allow you to destroy bug nest so the question is will you be needing a constant fire immediately or do you want to use your grenades for a little bit of both

Motivational shocks theoretically should let you EMS bots while you are unaffected if you're in range.

I wouldnt be surprised if the touted increased stopping power of the tenderizer was in the form of a slightly higher armor penetration, which is a stat that is hidden from us for some fucking reason.

6:02 i would never take that impact grenade on robots, those damn clankers can shoot it while you still have it in your hand. However i wouldn't take normal incendiary either xD

I think the problem for the new AR at the start is they SUPER recently, buffed the damage on the liberator default AR, and i get the feeling they forgot to buff the stats on this AR prior to its release to compensate

I do prefer the timer grenade as im more use to timing it when throwing

You can also shoot the pummeler without ads while running its great

Tenderizer should be buffed to 70 damage and have medium penetration. Crazy how they're trying to balance for the sake of gameplay in a PvE game.

1000% agree.

I believe the damage stat only tells you the max damage stat but omits stuff like damage drop off, stun etc. Having not tested it, I wonder if the Tenderizer has better damage drop off for longer range fights to justify the 'more stopping power' description.

Tenderizer having less ammo and rate of fire while having the description of more stopping power just feels like a straight slap in the face when the liberator does more per mag and its description is “balanced”!!!

Seems like their weapon balancing on every update gets more disappointing with time, now a warbond with zero reasons to buy it, hard to get excited when you’re not looking forward to unlocking anything