Helldivers 2 - New Balancing Update Buffs Enemies, Nerfs Eruptor and More!

Подписаться 222 тыс.

Просмотров 91 тыс.

50% 1

Helldivers 2 just got a New Update. It's a bit controversial though with some changes that people aren't enjoying. Like the new Eruptor nerf. In today's video we go over the patch notes and give you guys our thoughts on everything.
Here are the latest patch notes -store.steampowered.com/news/a...
Sign up to become a Channel Member to get access to perks like old live streams, chat badges that make you stand out in the comment section of videos and more:
/ @swanyplaysgames
═════════ Timestamps ════════
0:00 Intro
0:18 Patch Notes Intro
0:35 Eruptor Nerf
4:22 Shriekers & Gunships Buff
6:07 Gameplay Fixes
8:54 Overfixing Helldivers Exploits
11:05 Crashes, Social Menu, & Known Issues
11:52 Reviews Keep Getting Better
12:15 Region Problems Continue
14:22 Outro
══════════ Socials ══════════
► | 📺 | Twitch | / swanyplaysgameslive
► | 🐦 | Twitter | / swanyplaysgames
► | 📸 | Instagram | / swanyplaysgames
► | ⏰ | TiKTok | / swanyplaysgames
► | 👥 | Discord | / discord
══════════ Official Game Summary ═════════
Helldivers 2 is a third-person shooter developed by Arrowhead Game Studios and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment. The game is the sequel to 2015's Helldivers, which was a top-down shooter. It released for PlayStation 5 and Windows on 8 February 2024.
═════════ Video Tags ════════
helldivers 2, helldivers 2 tips and tricks, helldivers 2 tips, helldivers 2 gameplay, helldivers 2 review, helldivers 2 boss, helldivers 2 patch, helldivers 2 dlc, helldivers 2 update, helldivers 2 news update, HELLDIVERS 2, helldivers 2 stratagems, helldivers 2 updates, helldivers gameplay, helldivers 2 preview, helldivers 2 game, helldivers 2 patch notes, helldivers 2 patch, Helldivers 2 Nerfs, tips for playing helldivers 2, helldivers 2 trailer, helldivers 2 best stratagems, helldivers 2 beginners guide, helldivers 1 gameplay, helldivers 2 before you buy, helldivers 2 opening cinematic, helldivers 2 xbox, helldivers 2 best weapons, helldivers, how to survive in helldivers 2, helldivers 2 - playstation 5, helldivers 2 gameplay customization, helldivers 2 tips for beginners, helldivers 2 new gameplay, helldivers 2 new vehicles, helldivers 2 gameplay showcase, what's going on with helldivers 2, Helldivers 2 Major Order, Major Order, New Major Orders
═════════ Hashtags ═════════
#helldivers2 #helldivers2news #helldivers2update

Игры

Опубликовано:

28 июн 2024

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист

Посмотреть позже

Комментарии : 1,1 тыс.

@SwanyPlaysGames Месяц назад

What do you guys think of today's balancing update? Did you test out the Eruptor yet, and what do you think of the fix to the damage over time effects? The Latest Patch notes - store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4196868529822134078?l=english Check out one of my previous Helldivers 2 videos here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cmA-lKdr7XI.html Join My Discord - discord.gg/jRV9RJfqDX Follow me on Twitch - www.twitch.tv/swanyplaysgameslive Subscribe to SwanyPlaysGames - www.youtube.com/@SwanyPlaysGames?sub_confirmation=1 Subscribe to SwanyRants (My 2nd Channel) - ru-vid.com/show-UCPszGeh4gAG2oet_bufYGgQ Follow me on Twitter - twitter.com/SwanyPlaysGames ═════════ Timestamps ════════ 0:00 Intro 0:18 Patch Notes Intro 0:35 Eruptor Nerf 4:22 Shriekers & Gunships Buff 6:07 Gameplay Fixes 8:54 Overfixing Helldivers Exploits 11:05 Crashes, Social Menu, & Known Issues 11:52 Reviews Keep Getting Better 12:15 Region Problems Continue 14:22 Outro

@brn_coffee Месяц назад

"Increased explosion damage by 40 and removed shrapnel from the explosion" How is that a nerf?????????

@manexy Месяц назад

@@brn_coffee from my gameplay it seems to have lost its AOE damage, that's a big nerf to me

@hpharold23 Месяц назад

Reducing the Quezar canon range is the stupidiest statement I've heard on this channel.

@xelloscroff6888 Месяц назад

The main fix that I want is simply not letting the bots or bugs clip through terrain, especially heavy devastators as they just absolutely wreck and it’s very frustrating to deal with

@adeadfishdied Месяц назад

@@brn_coffee It takes 2-3x the amount of shots to kill the same amount of enemies. Thats a massive nerf, quite literally doing half the damage it was doing yesterday.

@DedZwn Месяц назад

Question for the R&D Department, the enemies are increasing their defensive and offensive capabilities, so why are we decreasing our offensive capabilities?!!

@3dpyromaniac560 Месяц назад

[This comment is being investigated for treason]

@WarriorPleb Месяц назад

😂😂😂😂@@3dpyromaniac560

@isaac6077 Месяц назад

We winning to good thats why.

@smoldoggy1005 Месяц назад

@@isaac6077 We're projected to lose 8 planets in the next 2 days tfym winning?

@natsukisubaru1732 Месяц назад

Game is 2 EZ.

@Sabindurain Месяц назад

I'd rather have the risk of being killed by the shrapnel than have the Eruptor in its current state.

@Gohan_rod Месяц назад

Risk/reward was better. Required more skill and maneuverability. Now not even the causuals can't use it

@raskolnikovsghost2701 Месяц назад

Me too

@Underworlddream Месяц назад

I hate taking shots that I have done hundreds of times before and know is good, only for it now to have it fail now.

@LazyEyePolitics Месяц назад

I just got done playing 4 rounds straight with it. That will be the last rounds I play with it until its fixed. This isn't whining and complaining as we are sure to see with this stuff, this is a legit disrespectful nerf.

@Atzy Месяц назад

@@LazyEyePolitics That's just what war is like. Sometimes it turns out a whole lot of ammunition is completely useless due to manufacturing mistakes. Thankfully Helldivers have a plethora of arms to take their pick of and none of them are completely essential.

@dapanda2068 Месяц назад

This game needs a test server desperately

@tanlar Месяц назад

And a training area/test map!

@SaGeOwL4891 Месяц назад

Amen

@caspianconstantine27 Месяц назад

Yes please, to prevent these blind patches from being heavy handedly thrown at us players without a second thought

@catharsix Месяц назад

? The devs test weapons and so forth in actual lobbies.

@vancodling4223 Месяц назад

For $40 bucks from a AA studio, I'm fine with them tweaking it on the fly

@whoeveruwantittobe Месяц назад

The Eruptor was excellent when it first launched. I felt its power was balanced by its low maneuverability and ammo count.

@VforVendetta13 Месяц назад

Agree 100 percent

@woidonmiguel1 Месяц назад

And slow rate of fire. But agreed completely. That primary with a Stalwart were my primary kit for solo play, now its not only screwed up but they increased enemy difficulty and count despite it. My negative review for the game is only part Sony, some is this poor decision making at Arrowhead

@alphatito868 Месяц назад

The only nerf that gun needed was the Ammo reducement from 60 shots to 30. It made me use the weapon more on harder targets instead of fodder enemies like scavangers or something like that. Even the aoe reduce in that same patch was "okay" should not be there but okay. That change now is just uncalled for

@elduran411 Месяц назад

More crashes for me with this update. 3 times today within a 2 hr timeframe. Boooo!

@kevinuribe318 Месяц назад

Oh yeah it Forsure was ! What’s crazy barely anyone would ever run it when I played on level 7 and 8. Most ran the sickle. This weapon was amazing but using on solo was a challenge so it definitely was balanced.

@gabrielcastro2077 Месяц назад

I dread these updates every week. They nerf or break something every time..

@kittenfeefee3918 Месяц назад

The has been enemies get stronger player gets weaker for a while.

@ethanswimmer1287 Месяц назад

stop playing the game the, thats your only power against these dumb decisions. if you keep playing, you are supporting said horrible decisions.

@Raven27120 Месяц назад

They just fixed a bunch of bugs though…

@LaserTractor Месяц назад

@@ethanswimmer1287i love the f out of this game. It was perfect in March. What is happenning now - I just don't understand. It feels like devs are literally laughing at players, who love their game, while destroying it. Some psy-op or something

@addamriley5452 Месяц назад

Welcome to every game ever

@hypnobearcoup2505 Месяц назад

We all knew the old community manager was full of it when he was trying to gaslight us that the Erupter change wasn’t a nerf.

@clay180 Месяц назад

Orrrrrr something in the full build broke and was working in the test environment they have.

@Aldritch9183 Месяц назад

Before, I could take out small groups with one shot thanks to the rifle, which compensated for its slow rate of fire due to its bolt action system. Now, I can barely shoot at two bugs at the same time, which is terrible considering that the standard sniper rifle is now better than the explosive version, and it's EXPLOSIVE. Each shot should be lethal, or at least be able to remove Charger armor with a few shots. If you're going to make a weapon geared towards individual targets, at least reflect that in its damage and capabilities. I literally need a whole magazine to take out a commander with headshots, and that's inefficient considering you're generally always surrounded by bugs.

@JaySliZe Месяц назад

I wish they’d stop making guns have 30 round mags and do decent damage then the next update remove 10 rounds and make it do less damage

@ibrosyndicate Месяц назад

When has this ever happened?

@Atzy Месяц назад

Which gun has that happened to?

@shasmith502 Месяц назад

@@ibrosyndicatethey halved ALL gun magazines tf are you on???

@ibrosyndicate Месяц назад

@@shasmith502 The reduced magazine count for the laser weapons which already have infinite ammo and also nerfed the mag count for the erruptor and punisher plasma, two weapons that are basically glorified grenade launchers.

@unfortunatecircumstances8870 Месяц назад

@@ibrosyndicateFound the guy who defends every poor balancing change.

@maximusbt4867 Месяц назад

My big gripe is the increased patrols for players NOT in a full squad. I play Quickplay and sometimes the “squad” stays at 3, even though the SOS Beacon is deployed. Multiple missions at 3 players. Shouldn’t be penalized for not having a full squad when you can’t get a fourth player.

@MFShro0m Месяц назад

Yeah and it’s even worse when you’re in a 2 man squad and don’t get reinforcements especially on helldive. It’s also really annoying when you had 3-4 ppl and ppl leave coz they were struggling

@hollow8421 Месяц назад

It's a genuine issue. Sometimes, if I try and join another player's mission it'll keep putting out error messages and never get me in. I assume that the same happens when no one joins my missions in return

@calamityhex3729 Месяц назад

For real there's time I'm playing and I literally have to run from a ln objective because I simply can't do it. I'm being swamped by bug's and despite my turrets and bombs one bug calls backup and I'm back to square one.

@ThatOliveMrT Месяц назад

Imo the sos should negate the penalty even if you're at 1/4 bc you're actively looking for a squad

@shrek696 Месяц назад

All was changed was it was changed for the scale to actually correctly apply. Before it was incorrectly applying the values, now its just a tiny bit larger (~9%) increase.

@Jnd_0247 Месяц назад

EVERY F*ckin time I fall in love with a gun because it’s actually one of the few that’s decent they absolutely nerf it until it’s useless.

@WholesomePotato1 Месяц назад

I really really think they should tone down the ragdoll effects every time some bug touches you. You get stun locked, thrown around dozens of meters sometimes in random directions, and for too long.. without any possibility to do something. You just stare at the screen, contemplating life while being shredded to pieces, your input doesn't matter.. for long stretches of time. Everything is so animation heavy, including healing. Why does it slow you down when you heal yourself? 😑

@kiitaclyzm Месяц назад

yeah getting tossed, anim locked and then cut in half by stalkers is why i quit soloing bugs on 4+

@Grenthor_The_Mighty Месяц назад

Fire damage dot 'fixed'. I expect next patch to halve how much flamethrower ammunition you can carry, the fire breaker will have 50% reduced ammo and damage, and the incendiary grenades radius will be reduced by 69%. Can't wait.

@zumzici1234 Месяц назад

100%

@SilentSpeak Месяц назад

I understand where the cynical view comes from but I actually think they might not mess with these anymore because now that they made the dot damage work it doesn't seem to be all that overpowered it seems just right so maybe they won't mess with it

@Ag3ntP_ Месяц назад

@@SilentSpeakthe problem was the dot damage being underpowered

@Grenthor_The_Mighty Месяц назад

@@SilentSpeak just let us be strong it's literally super earth vs the universe

@Nightwolf2595 Месяц назад

The Flamethrower already has low enough ammo, if they nerf it, its going to be absolutely useless

@schattensonner Месяц назад

Taking the high ground is not an exploit - its basic tactics.. And as a (bad to mediocre) solo player I take every advantage I can get.. Especially after the patrolspawn changes..

@25xxfrostxx Месяц назад

I never liked the eruptor but I feel bad for the people that did. They should have removed the weird ricochet change and left it alone.

@viysnjor4811 Месяц назад

the shrapnel killed yourself and allies before the ricochet changes

@LordHaragnok Месяц назад

@@viysnjor4811 Exploding shrapnel kills people that stand near it? 😮 Crazy

@somerandommen Месяц назад

As an Eruptor user, it's better ngl. The damage increase was worth it, and now I won't randomly die from a mile away.

@locmorningstar2740 Месяц назад

@@somerandommenhalf a mag just to kill a stalker, really worth it dude.

@somerandommen Месяц назад

@@LordHaragnokNo, it would kill you from 20-30 feet away. You'd just randomly die.

@dkerr200 Месяц назад

There is a real trend coming out here. New warbond weapons come out, its great. By the time the next warbond is out the previous ones are all nerfed. I won’t be buying the next warbond until the following one is out and we can see how things settle.

@redcenturion88 Месяц назад

It's funny how weapons they design and release always turn out to be something they "didn't intend" which is just another way of saying "we didn't intend for it to compete for the attention of upcoming content".

@omok2 Месяц назад

Lol you guys have never played an MMO have you? Everytime there's a new class or gun in any games it always amazing and is the option till it's nerfed, It's called flavor of the month

@gangsterguardsman4576 Месяц назад

I think they’re getting better as they go on, cause remember the first 2 warbonds were dogwater, the dominator, incen-breaker, and concussive liberator were all terrible, even the senator sucked. Same with cutting edge, except at least the sickle was good. Democratic detonation had 3 good weapons (the crossbow was usable against bugs, eruptor and grenade pistol) and all the weak warbond weapons got buffs. Nowadays, the incendairy breaker, dominator, senator, sickle, punisher plasma, and blitzer all have a place in line with other weapons, they’ll get it right with the democratic detonation ones eventually too

@SnoodNoodle Месяц назад

Not sure what you are talking about. Sickle, punisher plasma, and blitzer are all solid weapon still from cutting edge. Senator and incendiary just got buffed from this patch, and the dominator still dominates bots and they are all from steeled veterans. The only weapon that got an unfortunate change (that is confirmed to be a bug) is the erupter while the adjudicator, explosive xbow, and grenade pistol are all still solid weapons and from democratic detonation. Legit what you are saying is just not true. The only weapons that have been lack luster from the warbonds is the liberator concussive, las pistol, and now the erupter, and even now it's not like they are completely unplayable. The chaff clear the erupter had for grouped enemies was nuts, and im not surprised it got tuned down a lil.

@omok2 Месяц назад

@SnoodNoodle they are one weapon Andy's, they want a single weapon to be a be all end all. They are meta hounds, rather than changing their loadouts based on who they play with.

@jaymuney9801 Месяц назад

The explosive shrapnel was the point of that gun , 3 or 4 well placed shots would clear a scout party

@farsighted6407 Месяц назад

Upcoming buff, “the grenade pistol can no longer close bug holes but does 5 more damage.” - arrowhead probably.

@seinfeldx Месяц назад

also takes extra 3s to reload and has half the total ammo.

@Captain_Alkami Месяц назад

So after talking about the negativity surrounding nerfing weapons Your solution to the Shrieker Nest was to Nerf the weapons? 😂

@LaserTractor Месяц назад

They just survived huge horror of Sony and instantly said "btw let's nerf some more weapons, players like that"

@dekeaustin Месяц назад

Also, it seems like they nerf good weapons to promote unused weapons in war bonds..

@WeeWeeJumbo Месяц назад

🤫

@thekingsta2419 Месяц назад

Tbh I know that they're doing their best but I'm getting tired of seeing the weapon getting nerfed every week. Just make the enemy harder, not the guns harder to use.

@Kingofdragons117 Месяц назад

They already spawn plenty on high difficulties.

@CaptainFatfuk Месяц назад

Bro I thought we made it clear that we didn’t like the damn balance patch update lmfao and they do it again??!?

@calebheisserer5391 Месяц назад

Wasn’t a nerf The gun was insta killing players

@redcenturion88 Месяц назад

Same outcome 😂

@onhillsgaming Месяц назад

@calebheisserer5391 Now it kills nothing. I had no problem with it killing me or my team before hand. Now it just feels awful.

@M8Stealth Месяц назад

NerfDivers II

@mindman4217 Месяц назад

This is exactly what happened in the first Helldivers, they release an op weapon in the latest dlc, nerf it before the next dlc rinse and repeat

@bookat69 Месяц назад

...if they would make it so the bots couldn't land on the cliffs around the base in the Evacuate High-Value Asset defense missions, ignoring the doors and just shooting over them at the generators, then I wouldn't mind not being able to land on high points for the extermination missions.

@ItsAlpa Месяц назад

I recently got into Helldivers and the narrative before I started playing was how good the devs are at listening to the community. Anyways, since I started it feels like every other development team just nerfing everything fun into the ground that none of the community asked for. They been literally doing the opposite of what the community wants lol. Also the bugs and crashes with this game is astronomical. I can't count how many times I've crashed after wasting 30 minutes on a mission. Or the extraction ship just falling through the map with 50 samples on me.. They need to focus on that.

@cemarz Месяц назад

All my buddies left because the new enemies naturally make it harder. Then they nerf stuff. Buff enemies. Make enemies spawn more. People loved the game because it was wacky. It had a very 'game' like quality that encouraged you to not take it so seriously. The approach they seem to have now is the polar opposite of that.

@ringhof Месяц назад

Sometimes Devs forget that the primary goal should be that a game needs to make fun for players, not nerfing the heck out of it.

@hardwood6608 Месяц назад

I didn't find the Eruptor shrapnel to be an issue at all. I team killed once or twice with it. Learned quickly to be more careful about where my teammates were in relation to my targets when using that gun. I killed myself with it a couple of times. But that was only because I accidently swapped to it during a chaotic CQ fight. And I found it to be a funny moment when it happened. I really hope they revert that change.

@adeadfishdied Месяц назад

The shrapnel could randomly explode your diver when you were aiming 100m away. Pull the trigger and *boom* you’re diced spaghetti. Apparently it was a recent change that caused the shrapnel to return to sender frequently.

@CaptainFatfuk Месяц назад

Why buy a new war bond if the guns get nerfed later on

@BKRandy94 Месяц назад

They buffed the first two war bonds and the AR in the most recent war bond. I would look at everything altogether, not just a few things that lie within your perceived expectations. I agree they haven’t been perfect, not sure how they could but good news is they can always buff things at any point.

@CaptainFatfuk Месяц назад

@@BKRandy94 tell me more about the first two war bonds what did they buff exactly? Which AR are you talking about? The liberator that got bumped up from 55 damage to 60? Slight buffs compared significant nerfs to the guns that are most used or popular. Since you bring my perceived expectations, when I first heard of this game and started playing it coming from Fortnite, cod, rainbow six siege where those games have metas and always changes (nerfs and buffs) PVP in those games makes sense but this game Helldivers a PvE it’s silly to nerf guns that are popular because devs don’t want a load out to be a meta, it’s paradox as soon as you nerf a certain loadout there will be another loadout that will be popular as the last and then what nerf that too? Again and again? No hate towards the dev but at the same time just because we love the game doesn’t mean it is flawless and it needs feedback.

@laatrommi Месяц назад

do you buy the new content just to have more powerful weapons? so you want the game to be pay to win? makes no sense to me. new weapons should bring in more options without being stronger or weaker than the stuff that's already there. as a siege player, you should know how annoying it is when the new op every season is always better than what's already in the game. of course there is going to be some changes that don't always work out, but most of the guns in HD2 are balanced or just need a small tweak in either direction, and that's pretty good.

@CaptainFatfuk Месяц назад

@@laatrommi no I buy the new content to look forward to unlocking and getting guns that are fun and I see where your coming from but then again it’s not a PvP competitive game. On top of that either being pay to win or not, unless the gun is absolutely broken it’s not a guaranteed weapon to help you win the game. It’s about the fun factor and effectiveness. What I’m trying to say is that shooting the guns and the guns being fun or feeling like it’s awesome will make me enjoy the game more. Before they were patching guns I was really happy with the guns I was using because I’m the aggressive type of player that likes automatic guns. Anyways personally this game doesn’t make sense to have a “meta”

@MrSierra116 Месяц назад

@@BKRandy94 uh sweetie ? Jar5 just got a slight nerf, they gonna nerf it again soon, Sickle just got a nerf, Blitzer is not useless (its a fix, not a buff) anything else ?

@JordanDC87 Месяц назад

I haven't tested it yet but I love using the eruptor to kill multiple bugs. I would fire it into a group of bugs and get 3 or more kills everytime.

@Xl_Fenrir_lX Месяц назад

Only time that works now is with the small scavenger bugs if you are lucky and land the shot in between all of them and maybe you’ll get 3. Pre-nerf you could kill multiple medium enemies with one shot. Hell the highest amount I got pre-nerf in one shot was 12 kills, followed up by another shot that killed 8.

@brendanhogan2002 Месяц назад

literally just unlocked the Eruptor the day before the patch :( Was so fun to use on the missions that night, now I can't clear anything, the bullet either bounces off the ground, or only kills 3 enemies.

@shivalah Месяц назад

Worse: It was not the "host" it was the "network owner". So if I join my friends game, he is "session host" and can kick people, but I am "network host" since I got the better connection. Now my fire/acid deals damage over time (which I didn't bring), but he did and they don't deal damage over time now. It is a HUGE fix.

@Trent110000 Месяц назад

Im really upset I bought this Pass and they destroyed every gun in it. I wont be buying the new one to have the entire thing be useless in 3 weeks

@UraniumChef Месяц назад

I agree!

@tablettablete186 Месяц назад

This is live service in a nuttshell

@demspookz8732 Месяц назад

Im getting the new pass for the drip and nothing else

@gangsterguardsman4576 Месяц назад

The drip is exquisite, hope the new SMG is useable too

@The_Diginaut Месяц назад

Yeah, I won't be buying any more super credits for passes. They need to buff the tons and tons of bad weapons they have, instead of releasing ones that are actually effective, calling them OP, and nerfing them into the ground. (After a few weeks of course, gotta get those super credit sales for the passes first)

@drewmantheoriginal3106 Месяц назад

I wish that they would buff more weapons that are underpowered rather than nerfing the weapons people like.

@ianh2097 Месяц назад

Arrowhead were we buff enemies and nerf everything you use and enjoy without even testing our own damn game

@jamsheeddevotee7588 Месяц назад

Where*

@wolfschadow6399 Месяц назад

Dude, this is a buff to the eruptor, what are you on about? There are reasons why they buffed shriekers detection ranges and the hearing range of the gunships. Because shriekers have become a non-enemy due to people blowing up their nests from afar and gunships just homed in on 1 guy all the time because of how their vision works. The erruptors shrapnel also killed more allies than enemies. Now it has just its explosion which even got buffed.

@Nah-NoNeed_ Месяц назад

They don’t have a PTB or anything like that where they can stress test everything they need. They’ve admitted so many times they were not at all prepared for it being as popular not only as it was. But as it still is even with all the controversy every week. So I imagine they’re just still not prepared. We are their stress test. And that’s exactly what we signed up for as a citizen of super earth.

@convergence1point Месяц назад

@wolfschadow6399 on paper, its a buff, but in reality, it’s a gutting nerf. Most people know nothing about how the shrapnel interacts with the weapon. Its complete shit. It takes 3 shots to kill a bile spewer….to the head…yeah…its shit.

@Kazrel Месяц назад

@@wolfschadow6399 on paper it my be a buff but Twinbeard has admitted it's not working correctly atm.

@lk_ludikruc8358 Месяц назад

1000 super credits for nothing. Adjudicator is crappy, Crossbow is kinda useless, and now Eruptor the only super cool unique weapon that was actually perfect the way it was when it came. Its a bolt action rifle with super slow reload, bolting and innacurate at best. Borderline useless in close range. It was good for taking out blobed chaff yet it could take out bigger enemies. The BEST thing to me was that, along with ability to destroy bug holes/fabricators. I barely used my granades with this weapon. Coupled wkth the flametrower it was a very good combo that could take on most enemies while having very noticable drawbacks that you must work around. Just not fair how they nerf every weapon that is good... its getting to a point that I dont thrust new weapons are any use. I would rather see strategems.

@JAy-dx1xb Месяц назад

Didn't all they do was take away the sharpnel and buff its damage. And the only reason they took that away was because people was complaining about it killing them but that's was just a feature of the gun. You guys are the reason they nerf it

@convergence1point Месяц назад

@JAy-dx1xb What actually happened, is that Arrowhead in their “infinite wisdom” added magic forcefield bullet deflection to all armor bounces. So even if you glance a shot off armor, it will magically bounce back at you. This adversely affected the shrapnel the eruptor makes, so the shots started magically bouncing into players like bloodhounds when they got deflected. Thus the rise in teamkills with it. I never noticed it until after they did that dumb change. Its just like with the railgun nerfhammering into the ground. They blamed the gun, when in reality, it was a completely different problem all together.

@Jumpboy5100 Месяц назад

The adjudicator is pretty usable now. It can chew through bots better than most of the assault rifles. If you keep it to 2-3 round bursts you can take down devastators, chainsaw, little bots very quickly The grenade pistol is extremely helpful. I do think they went too far with the eruptor. It felt like the perfect balance of power and technique. Now it feels flaccid. Crossbow I'm not going to unlock untill they make it viable.

@Xl_Fenrir_lX Месяц назад

It was extremely accurate, wym?

@bingbong8464 Месяц назад

@@convergence1point railgun is just fine now and it's shrapnel? Ok? Do you know what that is?

@o-SPECTRE-o Месяц назад

I wish they would fix the reload in this game. There have been too many times where I would press reload and nothing happens, and I find out after I’m being attacked that the weapon is still empty. There is some inconsistency three for some reason.

@Jthanson88 Месяц назад

Because they spend all their time on nerfs and none on bug fixes 😂

@dethrogan6072 Месяц назад

Back before they took the stagger off of the slugger I would notice my red dot would be right on an enemies chest and it would still somehow miss, I thought I was going crazy

@AcidJazzCigarillo Месяц назад

I still can't push into Helldive 7 and the game keeps getting harder.

@Rocket_Devastator Месяц назад

I mean this in the most honest and respectful way possible. That is an issue with your current skill level

@gusgee3135 Месяц назад

Git gud

@Danksy210 Месяц назад

@@Rocket_Devastator Nonsense. I would say my skill level is above average & the game is an absolute joke now. On Helldive difficulty I completed every objective & wiped out every enemy in sight, got to extraction with 8 minutes left with not 1 enemy in sight. Soon as i called for extraction, countless waves of bots spawned out of nowhere. For 8 minutes i had to fight literal aimbots who made it impossible for me to get close to the extract area. There was nowhere to run to, next to zero cover, i had no more ammo, no more stims & all strategems were unavailable, as i was pushed into emergency time. I of course eventually died, not because of a skill issue but because of how backwards, unfair & far from fun the devs have made the game.

@Rocket_Devastator Месяц назад

@@Danksy210try bringing the big shield generator stratagem, my team has found that to be a great option, if that’s not your style then you can always stealth at the extract since the don’t know where you are, just that your in the area

@Danksy210 Месяц назад

@@Rocket_Devastator I've moved onto far better things now, I've lost all interest in Helldivers. No matter what changes the Devs make i don't think it will ever be enough to make me want to reinstall the game. The Devs decided they don't want solos playing their game anymore, so i won't be anymore. Fook em. All future Arrowhead titles i will be avoiding.

@Blasted2Oblivion Месяц назад

Getting us use to good weapons only to weaken them, fixing the bugs that stop us from being able to play but removing the exploits that help the player but keeping the ones that give enemies the advantage. Sounds like the devs are feeding helldivers to the termenids.

@arizonaanalog389 Месяц назад

Idk why they have unique weapon types but remove the thing that makes the weapon unique

@someoneinasia Месяц назад

i would expect the naming 'eruptor' came from the shrapnel 'erupting' on impact. now that the shrapnel is removed, the weapon has lost its identity.

@rath3074 Месяц назад

Maybe they should’ve just left ricochet alone. It makes no sense for it to fire back at the person who fired. That’s not how ballistics work

@caspianconstantine27 Месяц назад

Baffling change then and even now. And it is still going unaddressed by many.

@isaac6077 Месяц назад

It 100% is doe. Shooting a flat steel plate can send a mangled slug back at u. There are videos probing this

@adeadfishdied Месяц назад

@@isaac6077link one.

@clay180 Месяц назад

They didn't make ricochet reflect to the player. They only turned on ricochet damage for the player. Most of you critics are clueless.

@schattensonner Месяц назад

@@isaac6077 But most surfaces we fire at are at an angle. While it *may* still happen, even an .. lets say 12° angle wouldnt reflect right back at you unless your firing point blanc. But tbh, by now I didnt really notice me dying from ricochets.. Grenades bouncing off enemies and exploding in my face , or my Bullets grazing a charger and killing my friend for example - yes, it happened.. not only once.. but my bullets being flung right back to and killing me? Cant remember that happening..

@Nah-NoNeed_ Месяц назад

I think even the devs weren’t aware of the damage over time bug for a while. Just think to how many buffs we’ve gotten to flamethrowers and “flames from strategems” and such. Entire planets are about to be entirely covered in flames once word gets out they’ve been unintentionally nerfed their entire helldivers experience.

@MegaFooby Месяц назад

They were aware of it. At the bottom of all the patch notes, they have a list of known issues and the DoT bug was in there for the longest time

@Kiyomoto657 Месяц назад

Flamethrower nerf will be next.

@RugsterClaps Месяц назад

It's very strong. Actually hope they keep it that way. It's cool to see it out in the wild

@geraltthewitcher1822 Месяц назад

I doubt it. Considering how dumb these nerfs are

@seyvianlaw2672 Месяц назад

The crossbow didn’t even need nerfing

@comeup0902 Месяц назад

It's garbage

@seyvianlaw2672 Месяц назад

@@comeup0902 before the nerf I thought it was a straight enough gun, not the best but not bad also but yeah that shit dookie butt now

@sinsofthedaemonttg8779 Месяц назад

warframe vets: first time?

@Reports. Месяц назад

Exactly 😂😂😂

@isaac6077 Месяц назад

At least the enemy arent spongy like warframe

@IlSentenza Месяц назад

DE doesn't nerf nearly as much as AH does.

@DarkRavenhaft Месяц назад

Acceltra, Orthos Prime, Pyrana Prime, and Nikana Prime, Saryn Prime. All have never fallen out of S-tier since their introduction.

@BartoszBielecki Месяц назад

Eruptor got gutted, sadly. I've enountered the shrapnel bug a few times - it was rough. But the nerf of damage (splash) is horrible. No one-shoting that it used to.

@blu-jay6451 Месяц назад

This is why I never got interested in democratic detonation. Two very mid weapons, one of them getting nerfed and the only good one ended up broken only to get nerfed to the ground. Definitely not spending my credits on it and I'll wait some time after the next one comes out in case the same thing happens. I'll be happy with my arc blitzer and sickle.

@CannabisGarden Месяц назад

Dang the eruptor was my favorite weapon to play with before the ammo and shrapnel nerfs

@darrylblake9680 Месяц назад

If these announcements have taught me anything. Try out the changes first and see how it feels. I"ve been using it and it feels fine. Unlike my poor rail gun - unsafe mode kills me more than I'd like,lol

@Xl_Fenrir_lX Месяц назад

Ammo nerf was needed tbh, but I’d say down to 8 instead of 6 but even then I never fully ran out of ammo, and for context I tend not to die often so I’m not even getting refreshed from respawning. But this last nerf killed it completely. It’s just a worse version of the dominator now

@NoxTheZombie Месяц назад

Ammo nerf I could pass but not this one.

@Phillsen Месяц назад

meh that means the eruptor lost everything that was interesting about it. You already couldn't use it very well as a primary and had to carry something else or had to work well together with your team. i really liked that. It promoted teamplay very well.

@samuelhigh7831 Месяц назад

People are using the "good" weapons not because it's "meta" but because most of the other options aren't good at all. Stop taking things away :(

@BKRandy94 Месяц назад

That is incorrect there are options, it seems very likely that people find one or two guns and only stick with those. Being adaptable and trying new things would be a good mindset to keep the game enjoyable. They can always buff things in a future update

@jesusbarrera6916 Месяц назад

@@BKRandy94making all weapons funny is the mindset that will make the game enjoyable... tell me who uses the concussion AR? Nobody But we'll done, let's nerf the weapons people actually use Your mentality will make every weapon garbage

@azaluna2136 Месяц назад

@@BKRandy94Not really. Tell me when was the last time you used a sniper rifle, or heavy machine gun, or the grenade launcher. The grenade launcher is so bad it should just be a primary weapon. Nobody wants to use those weapons because most of them aren't fun to use, or they just take FOREVER to kill anything above the smallest enemies. They shouldn't be nerfing the fun stuff, they should be buffing the bad stuff so you can actually have true variety, AND fun. We shouldn't have to trade fun for variety when we can have both, especially since they keep buffing the enemies, while making us weaker every patch

@LPR44 Месяц назад

I'm one of the people who has not changed their review to positive exactly because of what you described here... I am not frustrated because of hard enemies, I am frustrated because of bugs(software) making it harder for us, while they patch anything we can use to mitigate that. The reloading bug has been a big problem recently for me, as I am a Breaker user against Terminids, and I am usually surrounded when my mag runs out and I have to reload twice!

@seinfeldx Месяц назад

i mean the quasar got debuffed on time to shoot and the last time i destroyed a shrieker nest it took 3 shots for each head, it was 2 or 3 so thats 9 shots times the time to shoot while still being attacked by them, since t didnt one shot at distance so i tryed to get closer to see it if it had damage falloff by the distance. Also sometimes 3 shots to the bigest bug in the body or heads seems to now most times not kill it.

@dekeaustin Месяц назад

I agree with you on the reloads. It seems like, when you reload, if you pull the trigger before the animation ends, for some reason, it cancels the reload. That happens to me, a lot also.

@mrsnackbar9383 Месяц назад

Im an eruptor main, after the change that brought the rebound i was decapitating myself from absurd distances. Happend 30 or so meters multiple times. I didnt know just how much damage the shrapnel was doing until this change. The detonator war bond was the first one i paid real money for, i regret this purchase.

@brandonwynne4233 Месяц назад

Anyone else feel like almost every base gun just sucks!? I feel like I always play with one of 3 guns due to the nonstop nerfing. With this nerf, 3 went to 2.

@comeup0902 Месяц назад

Yeah my biggest struggle is finding a good primary weapon to use.

@GalvanizeOO7 Месяц назад

It's basically: Sickle Power Gap . . . . . . . . . Everything else

@brandonwynne4233 Месяц назад

@@GalvanizeOO7 I will switch to a Shotty sometimes for bugs... but yes. One Good Primary. (FRUSTRATING!!!) I'm Not looking for OP Primary weapons, but just make them good! Decrease the Spawn rate timer or increase the herd/patrol sizes to counterbalance.

@Koyu_Ruh Месяц назад

The funniest crosshair bug I had (several times before the patch) was that I was shooting 90° to my right and with the Eruptor more often than not unalive myself by accident. It was less about the shrapnels and more about my Helldiver not knowing that the bullets come out of the slim end. As for a bug that is REALLY getting on my nerves, and I mean excessively so is that the game rebinds my Y and Z key due to my selected language. Do keep in mind that I as a European have a QWERTZ layout, so putting prone onto Z every time really screws me over hard. I've reported the bug before multiple times but it's still in the game. It's so frustrating that I put it on Q and had the voice chat end up on Z. Y is simply unusable to me, as after every reset anything I bind to Y is automatically bound to Z, it's about the language I selected, but I'd rather go on a difficulty 9 mission with nothing but melee than changing my language off of English.

@christopherstephens2699 Месяц назад

I've been having constant potstickers with eagle airburst too. It no longer runs perpendicular to the direction you are facing every time, and you also get random scatter of bombs on top of that. The number of times that I have thrown it and run directly away from it to still get blown up is obscene. This never used to happen. It used to be both reliable and amazing, and now it's a 50/50 shot of being a complete dumpster fire that barely even hits enemies clustered around the beacon and gets me killed instead.

@yoshi396 Месяц назад

Spitz also got fired, that's a sad news update for everyone. The Discord went wild once they found out.

@3dpyromaniac560 Месяц назад

Spitz got fired but the one who accused grumz of SA was just demoted?

@atrane365 Месяц назад

@@3dpyromaniac560spit had the full character qrc over the weekend, and he's the one who gets fired? The accuser should have been removed that day

@mkaleborn Месяц назад

@@atrane365 I guess stepping on Sony's toes directly with his advice to players wasn't going to fly with Sony brass. Maybe part of the 'bargain' that AH had to strike to get Sony to relent.

@MrPWN96 Месяц назад

Good riddance, he was not qualified for that position.

@tubetorpedo Месяц назад

Spitz, the CM berating players and giving dumb thoughtless advice all around? The point of community manager is to work as public face of company to customers/community and convey information in both ways between community and the company as a middle man, and work both as diplomat and as arbitrator in various situations, sometimes dealing w good news, sometimes bad. Spitz clearly was not up the task, and seems there are quite a few others in the HD moderator side who are not either. Good riddance. E.g. their CEO has been way better in messaging and being diplomat towards at times (angry) customer base than than their community team has been. Whose actual main job is suppose to deal with the community.

@mace7077 Месяц назад

Shrieker nest fix seemed obvious to me, upon being shot make the nest dispense shriekers to defend their spawn in point towards direction of the shot. 🤷‍♂ Like poking a bee hive or wasp nest, make it sensitive to attacks

@thorinwhitewolf1213 Месяц назад

I wondered why it took 2-3 shots to kill nersing spewers. And I can say I loved the shrapnel both for damage and as elan escape route, demo heavy armour and shield gen, shoot the floor and fly.

@eltoro7821 Месяц назад

Nice video, as usual! I'm honestly very happy that you guys have finally realized most of the stuff I've seen since the beginning. Every patch the devs prioritize the game's difficulty instead of our fun. The game is still pretty fun though, I only hope they don't ruin every good/fun weapon.

@B-U-T-C-H-E-R Месяц назад

I don't need no stinkin rupter, i don't need no stinkin war bond, hold my beer, im shooting errthang with the airburst

@LaserTractor Месяц назад

Target playerbase

@Miskarr Месяц назад

They removed the shrapnel because the new ricochet rules made it more likely to kill you and the team. It wasn't about shooting it too close to yourself. But the ricochet rules were dumb to begin with. They're just doubling down on bad decisions.

@zumzici1234 Месяц назад

Exactly. In the first place, what f ing bullet ricochet at 180° when hitting a hard surface ???

@greentmlightedition525 Месяц назад

God I wish they’d fix bots or bugs or entire factory striders spawning. Inside or ontop of mountains instead removing of helldivers landing on high points

@bigreub7871 Месяц назад

I actually had an account yesterday with the eruptor yesterday where I shot a warrior from around 20 meters away from me and I got 1 tapped by the shrapnel (when I was wearing heavy armor). I’m actually interested to see how good the eruptor plays now.

@helderperez1474 Месяц назад

Yep I think they should focus more on making the game fun vs nurfing so much. It's time for them to make the community happy again. There's still a lot of anger and damage that has been done for them to keep nurfing shit we like.

@Nah-NoNeed_ Месяц назад

The game isn’t very fun if you’ve wiped everything off of the screen within 10 seconds.

@beakwooda.k.aadregallus8788 Месяц назад

@@Nah-NoNeed_I wish I could live in this 10 second world of yours, unless you're at level 2 to 5.

@Nah-NoNeed_ Месяц назад

@@beakwooda.k.aadregallus8788 let every weapon reign supreme without any nerfs whatsoever. And that’s the game you’re going to be playing. No need for strategems when your primary weapon can clear out everything in the way. No need for a primary weapon when your secondary is literally just as good. I guess I wasn’t clear enough. My b.

@spicy518 Месяц назад

@@Nah-NoNeed_ looks like you're talking out your arse

@Nah-NoNeed_ Месяц назад

@@spicy518 you must do that enough that basically everyone talking just seems like that to you then. Really doesn’t take much to see I’m talking hypothetically. Doesn’t need to be exact data. Get a hobby!

@val9393 Месяц назад

Starter Assault Rifle gang wya

@witchdoctorwill1796 Месяц назад

Shriekers are either not an issue (far away and can be EATed) or oppressive when you spawn into a blitz with 2 separate nests close enough to you to spawn.

@FlamesOfSymphony Месяц назад

This eruptor issue was probably caused by how they changed bullet behavior vs armored targets. It was fine before, but now that bullets hit helldivers more from ricochets, it started causing more problems.

@bronzieblue63 Месяц назад

They need to just make Twinbeard the new Head Community Manager, he's like the only CM that doesn't seem to consistently antagonize people on the HD2 discord (**cough** Spitz and Baskinator **cough cough**) Also, I would've expected the Eruptor only generating an explosion in a wider radius with increased damage to be an all around buff (at least in terms of consistency and mob clear), but from what I've been able to tell it's underperforming to a terrible degree, the gun's basically been castrated. I hope the HD2 devs are just experimenting with a shrapnel-less eruptor for now and if that doesn't work out, end up just rolling back the Eruptor to when it still had shrapnel.

@quanlinglingdingle6122 Месяц назад

Good news : spitz demoted but baskin still a CM

@DarkRavenhaft Месяц назад

The problem is AOE dropoff makes explosion damage worthless for anything other than the weak-point modifier. I used to be able to kill a tight pack of hunters with a single well placed shot. Now I'm using 1-2 rounds on each of the bastards. Feels like a worse dominator loaded with the concussive liberator gimmick bullets.

@donniB179 Месяц назад

Bile spewers need 2 shots to pop instead of one. Stalkers dont die with one shot anymore Everything takes more shots to kill. At least it still closes hive holes. But i dont see the damage increase.

@effive7817 Месяц назад

Ive experienced the shrapnel self kill once. Hit a chainsaw bot very far away and just instantly died, despite all ranged bots and teammates dead. Thats one out of at least a dozen hours if gameplay. Probablt closer to 2 dozen. It was worth the risk.

@andrewnation4511 Месяц назад

When the players said that we were getting blown up from the gun, that means we want you to fix that issue. Not nerf the gun into oblivion that no one will use it. Or, turn friendly fire off for everyone. Idk.

@Xl_Fenrir_lX Месяц назад

Turning friendly fire off would kill the game right where it stands. Ceo already said if they ever take off friendly fire they would also take off damage to enemies so no one could hurt anyone lol

@WholesomePotato1 Месяц назад

I totally agree with what you said around 9:20. The priorities are flipped, completely. Playing on Helldive with bugs has become so freaking exhausting because it's demanding every bit of your attention. It's really tiring. I get that it's Helldive, but being burnt out after 3 missions is not exactly adding to player retention.

@Birdzlitlehelpr Месяц назад

No idea what you mean, I only run helldive and with a half decent squad I have no issues completing all main and secondary objectives and still extracting with 10+ minutes on the clock. Even with just 1 other competent player we can carry 2 new players while completing all objectives without issue

@WholesomePotato1 Месяц назад

@@Birdzlitlehelpr Oh it's manageable, I'm not talking about that... it's just that it's exhausting, as it requires so much attention from you.. they don't let you breathe, not even for few seconds, no matter if you have Localization confusion booster or not. It's the same with The ancient gods part 1 DLC for Doom Eternal.. It's hard and even the director Hugo Martin said they overdone it, and play testers were exhausted before the final boss. It had pacing problems, and I think this game also has pacing problems, amongst other balancing problems that guys on this channel mentioned. I also don't like the over-exaggerated ragdoll effects, for example. 😅

@Birdzlitlehelpr Месяц назад

@@WholesomePotato1 thanks for the reply, that makes more sense! Totally agree about the ragdoll, I can't even count how many times my character has tripped on a 2 foot tall rock activating the ragdoll effect and then a scavenger or hunter kills me before I can stand up!

@WholesomePotato1 Месяц назад

@@Birdzlitlehelpr Oh yeah, for example you try to jump to clear a bug hole in that big bug hive, you jump 2m next to the bug hole in that "crater" thing, and you get -30% HP and you get faltered for 2 seconds 🤣😭 it's as if Helldivers are made out of sugar sometimes 😭

@BlindLogik Месяц назад

Ive one shot myself so many times shooting bugs 30+ feet away. A welcomed fix. They just need to adjust the damage.

@teidelmoo Месяц назад

Worse is killing teammates randomly....

@paradigmshift7 Месяц назад

All they had to do was fix the ricochet so it wouldn't kill you from that far away. Damage was fine, they could have either left the shrapnel damage as-is or take away shrapnel and make explosive stronger. They said they did the latter, which is a joke since you can't even one shot a small warrior from distance now.

@wolfschadow6399 Месяц назад

@@paradigmshift7 The shrapnel didn't do anything 90% of the time anyway because it either hit an armor plate or just flew off into the distance, probably into your mates leg somewhere 50 meters away. Arrowhead buffed the explosion damage by 40 because of it. This is just a buff.

@convergence1point Месяц назад

@wolfschadow6399 Are you a bot? Because you are being an idiot trying to finger wag about something you dont seem to know much about.

@d.b.cooper5775 Месяц назад

@wolfschadow6399 You say that but about 8 different mob types need more bullets to kill them. Just because they say the shrapnel wasn't doing much doesn't make it reality. Those of us that used this gun alot notice a massive difference.

@George89999 Месяц назад

Usually my first warning that there is a Shreiker nest nearby is when some random triggers the spawning, so I usually don't get a chance to destroy them from a distance before they can spawn anything anyhow. 🤣

@Fantastic-Espurr Месяц назад

More than once i lobotomized a teammate who was in the complete other direction from my target, but the shrapnel was a lot of the damage

@Wulfjager Месяц назад

i loved the eruptor, but i think im starting to understand what theyre going for. theyre trying to get people to be more adaptable. they always nerf things that everyone uses, so ive been making a point to use things that no one uses, that way i avoid the disappointment when that particular weapon inevitably gets nerfed. the blitzer, against terminids*, is actually really freaking good and i would recommend it if it meant not everyone starts using it and it gets nerfed because of it

@Maker_of_noise Месяц назад

That's cap because we just use the most effective guns when the other ones are mid Penetrator AR? DOGSHIT Slug shotgun? NERFED to dogshit Normal AR? Good and is the best AR for me personally because of mag size, damage and good recoil Adjudicator? Also not bad but even after the recoil buff it's immensely inaccurate and has only 25 mag capacity Buckshot shotgun - really good, but i just like ARs more All of the marksman rifles - mid as fuck and not fun especially when everything you try to shoot at on the Automaton front (where they're actually useful) flinches you into next Sunday Eruptor - WAS just a really good sniper rifle that could get multiple enemies at once and clear hordes of small bugs AND was a lot of fun - now it's useless Crossbow was always fucking horrendous And other guns I haven't gotten my hands on yet since I can't farm enough SC with uni and other shit occupying me My point - they nerf effective weapons so we would buy the next fucking warbond and NOT because they want us to use other guns If they wanted THAT they'd at least make other guns viable

@caspianconstantine27 Месяц назад

Honestly? It still encourages meta picks and discourages diversity in weapon choices. Unless you have X and Y, you will have a bad time, especially true with a more brutal spawn rate that gets exponentially harder late game.

@Xl_Fenrir_lX Месяц назад

“It’s better to love and to have lost than to have never loved at all” is a great quote to apply to this thinking. I had an absolute blast with the eruptor and the arc thrower and the railgun and the slugger before they made them nigh unusable. It feels like they are just making it harder and harder to enjoy the game with each passing nerf. Nothing can take away the fun times I did have with those guns in their prime and I have an understanding of what they should feel like before they are nerfed into something completely different

@Maker_of_noise Месяц назад

@@Xl_Fenrir_lX i agree and therefore i think a better option to nerfing weapons would be to either buff enemies or less usable weapons like the penetrator

@sapiensiski Месяц назад

How is balance a problem in a pve game?

@maxwellsavage2025 Месяц назад

Exactly

@RugsterClaps Месяц назад

To encourage people using more than one build and form a well balanced team? To keep things from getting stale? Odd question with an obvious answer

@maxwellsavage2025 Месяц назад

@RugsterClaps PVP needs a balance of fairness amongst players a pve game does not. Buff weapons make new enemies make new maps, and the game will not get stale it will thrive. Release new weapons and armors every now and then cool.It's basic common knowledge in the gaming community. What won't work is changing all the weapons weekly predominantly making them worse if not completely making them useless while also buffing enemies.

@RugsterClaps Месяц назад

@@maxwellsavage2025 this is a very narrow minded take on the issue. yes new content is good. thats not what we are talking about here. if a gun is overpowered how does it make sense to "buff" the entire game around it instead of bringing it back down to what they intended its function to be? if the outcome is the same in the end "buff only" is a nonsensical way of dealing with the issue

@maxwellsavage2025 Месяц назад

@RugsterClaps my narrow minded view is the same view as most of the gaming community. A pvp game needs fairness and balance. A pve game needs useful tools to complete goals. Last week in helldivers I had a hammer this week that same hammer is now a screwdriver and it's my job to figure out how to make it work. That is not preventing a game from getting stale. it's just over complicating it, which in itself has killed multiple titles in the gaming industry. If a poll went up right now, about 80 percent of the player base would say that they are more worried when a patch comes out than excited, which is a major issue for any gaming community, to think anything otherwise would truly be narrow minded.

@joezhangmd Месяц назад

Prior eruptor main here. I'm putting the old gal back on the armory wall for a spell or until they fix it up again. I don't like that the gun I grew to love is now less useful but I am now happily using other guns again to find my next favorite. The incindary shotgun is winning by a lot for bugs and the sickle or scorcher on bots now. I was rocking the laser cannon with my eruptor but now I am back to experimenting. It's all revolving around the grenade pistol for me now as I got used to running stun grenades. If I can get away from stun grenade, then I can mess with other secondaries again.

@bluewolf5582 Месяц назад

I noticed the eruptor seemed really anemic this morning after the update. I did have a lot of trouble with the shrapnel killing me. Even when shooting something like a brood commander head sometimes would insta kill me. The DOT being fixed is awesome, so much better and makes up for it. Also been enjoying other weapons tbh

@ozbonilla6381 Месяц назад

For those that don’t see what they are doing let me help. You pay for the war bond, they nerf the guns. That way when they come out with other war bonds you’ll buy those cause your old guns are crap. It’s a money thing

@hollow8421 Месяц назад

I don't think it's malicious intent but they're a little lost with balancing. They're nerfing the guns like if we were in a PvP game. But bots feel no frustration. They should let the guns feel strong and if anything buff the enemies.

@vincentvanbro9935 Месяц назад

this would make sense if you couldn't get all the money you need in game, this argument stands strong against a greedy micro transaction company but falls apart a little in this game.

@user-gz5qc7oh2s Месяц назад

@@hollow8421they should buff everything instead of nerfing. First HD most guns were OP

@sentryion3106 Месяц назад

This would stand if a) the warbond expires and b) the previous 2 warbonds gets stronger post release Since neither is true I fail to see how this is arrowhead trying to get more money instead of them getting lost in balancing

@schattensonner Месяц назад

I didnt pay for any warbond by now.. But if they want to become that nefarious (as in : nearly every 2nd gamecompany with any microtransactions) theyll just reduce the amount of SC you can/will find while playing.. Or remove them alltogether. After that you'll have a point.

@__-fi6xg Месяц назад

the eruptor was in a terrible spot before this update, not sure what you are talking about. now its just in the crossbow tier.

@LaserTractor Месяц назад

And I was ok with how mid crossbow was before. They nerfed it and no one talks about it. It's trash now. 3 times worse than Scorcher. I just hate it all already. The only good game I found and devs keep on destroying it with nerfs😢

@Xl_Fenrir_lX Месяц назад

Not sure what you are on about, eruptor was s-tier pre-nerf. Extremely versatile, high damage and high aoe potential. Were you just confused with how to use it properly?

@__-fi6xg Месяц назад

@@Xl_Fenrir_lX ignore

@Xl_Fenrir_lX Месяц назад

@@__-fi6xg yup, confirms my suspicions 😂

@__-fi6xg Месяц назад

@@Xl_Fenrir_lX ignore

@joshp.5714 Месяц назад

The bug fix for the explosion knockback also nerfed the Eruptor with the shrapnel then to lose the extreme increased headshot potential is devastating

@Fuzzylumpkins02 Месяц назад

I don't know, i was playing with eruptor on helldive all night last night and didn't notice a real difference. In fact, i was taking out most bugs in one hit. I was actually thinking it was so good when i was using it.

@Turk3yFilms Месяц назад

devs are clowns lol I didn't even get a chance to play with the guns pre nerf

@Lyymyus Месяц назад

For anyone crying about the Eruptor nerf just know they acknowledged it not performing as expected and are working to fix it

@bender5271 Месяц назад

Something isn’t working as expected?! Colour me suprised 😑

@TequalHC Месяц назад

Gonna be weeks till they get it ‘working’ as intended.

@blinktud Месяц назад

That's the story of every single change they make, without fail. Please stop apologizing for them

@SwanyPlaysGames Месяц назад

See 1:27

@GiggsTheWanderer Месяц назад

I agree with the shrieker and gunship range buff. I never see either until I'm right on top of the spawner.

@ChargedTTq Месяц назад

I had tons of problems getting killed by my own shrapnel at close range.

@jedadiahamaral2761 Месяц назад

The devs don’t want you to play their game , if you like anything it gets nerfed and if you max out the game is pointless to even play 🤣 they really aren’t the big brains people think they are

@vn0688 Месяц назад

eruptor was kinda nice, but yall are sleeping on all the other weapons and it shows. nerfs and buffs are normal, if it was so good that no one else wants to use other weapons, then it makes sense to tweak it accordingly. just because the eruptor is weaker, doesn't make it unusable. they've clearly wanted it to occupy a more narrow niche role than before, so it is going to be less effective. why people are shitting their pants is beyond me especially when theres such a wide selection of alternatives.

@RugsterClaps Месяц назад

Agreed. If they left op guns alone, those same people would complain that the meta build is making the game boring. I'd much rather have devs make adjustments gradually than let people who don't know how game dev works, ruin the balance of the game entirely

@mrsnackbar9383 Месяц назад

When the eruptor dropped it opened up how I could use other support, sidearm and grenade combinations to great effect. Having a niche but reliable way to close objectives gave me alot of flexibility. Now I have a primary that has way to many negatives to take out. I'ill be back to using the same 4 primaries everyone else takes. I don't see this as a win.

@splashyatom22 Месяц назад

But it still closes objectives, does it not? Even then, I really only used it for medium or damage heavys, the area was nice but not what I used it for. @mrsnackbar9383

@mrsnackbar9383 Месяц назад

@@splashyatom22 i waited to reply until i had a bit more time with the patch. The comment still holds water. I did 3 dives on challenging (Terminids, solo bc my matchmaking is broken it seems). It was a struggle the whole way thru. It will close holes but that's about all the eruptor is now good for. Some warriors surviving direct impact, hive guards surviving multiple critical shots between their head and leg area. The AOE is seemingly non existent and has no stagger besides a direct impact. The ricochet change brought in a technical bug, and the eruptor got gutted bc of it. I'd like to point out that the detonation warbond (first one i paid real money for) has very little fun and usable on higher difficulty options besides the grenade pistol. 200 hours so far and I never see anyone use the crossbow that for some reason doesn't close objectives. It's time to put my much loved stun nade away and grab a conventional grenade to close objectives. The at release eruptor (and the half mag count version) was enough fun and utility to take out and explore other sidearm, nade and support weapon combinations. I don't see this as a win for us helldivers.

@jesusbarrera6916 Месяц назад

The weapons that get nerfed weren't used because "they are so good" but because the rest of the weapons suck.... your 3rd grade mentality will make all weapons garbage at the end

@hiddensquid335 Месяц назад

The shrapnel is a huge part of the eruptors damage. I hope they fix it soon

@lancemckenzie1074 Месяц назад

I like a greater shrieker range. Fun gameplay occurs when you have competing objectives. Do I kill the side objective or stop the shriekers? It's also organic and unexpected based on map generation.

@Thorrbo87 Месяц назад

The first erupter nerf I didn’t really notice. I never survived long enough to use all 60 rounds without finding ammo. This nerf however is such a bummer. I LOVED the comical nature of learning the erupters ranges

@robertarmstrong2323 Месяц назад

Was unintentional..they are working on fix

@SovereignRose Месяц назад

The erupter ws my go to. Then they half the mags, double the enemies, then nerf my dpm

@Mishomish0 Месяц назад

I one-shot'd myself with the Eruptor recently (before patch) and it was always random shrapnel going through through me from my own shots.

@ScootsMcGee Месяц назад

I never had a problem with the shrapnel either. No one I talked to had. They were just making up a reason to rebalance it.

@Thatoneguy100_ Месяц назад

Anyone know how to cancel a stratagem throw ? Seems like I can’t get out of that when I don’t wanna throw it lol

@Jacobloweification Месяц назад

What annoys me the most about not being able to land on tall rocks anymore, is it has essentially rolled back the fix several patches ago where it would disable steering around certain things. Most of the time if you die by any rock, you just can't steer at all