Thank you for watching! See how our base 2020 Land Rover Defender compares to a fully-loaded model over on TFLcar: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-38AH_jzGb6w.html
Ya MASERATI makes jeep so all but the wranglers ride just as nice now. Not to mention just as many features for half the cost because a Cherokee Trailhawk is $32,000 BRAND NEW.
Enjoy. Totally agree with you on the Discovery statement. Think this is the Disco 4 refresh. Disco 5 too posh and expensive, up in Range Rover territory, new defender too expensive as a 'defender', which was originally designed to be the cheap everyman's offroader back in the day. Hopefully a new cheap LR based on the defender being discussed for 2021 launch will be the true defender replacement
2:28 "Lets Floor it" ...I hope this New Engine doesnt require a break-in period of 500-600 miles of no hard acceleration .....Watchout for "CHECK ENGINE LIGHT" on next episode
Theoretically you don't have to run in a modern automobile engine as they are run-in at the factory In practice that is bullshit... Keep the revs down and change up gears as quickly as possible for the first 1000 miles, particularly on older tech engine block models with mechancal or semi mechanical transmissions... change out all powertrain lubrication and coolants at 1000 miles and you are golden
Agree. For 55k, you can get a loaded 4Runner Pro, or a very nicely specced Wrangler Rubicon. Wasn't head-to-head, but one of the videos they did over the summer where they compared the original Defender to the new Defender, they had a 4Runner following along, that did everything that the other two vehicles did. I think for an overland style build, even though it's an ancient design a 4Runner TRD off road base is probably a great starting point. Or, if you plan on doing a lot of technical off-roading, the Wrangler Rubicon.
Ya MASERATI makes jeep so all but the wranglers ride just as nice now. Not to mention just as many features for half the cost because a Cherokee Trailhawk is $32,000 BRAND NEW
It is your not getting the realibilty of the ones you mentioned. Just remember Average labor rate for Land Rover dealership service department is around $180 per hr.
@Robert Blackford the only reason I would trust the land cruiser is because it has an old engine and is simple tech, the second they go all electronical they will start failing aswell
Clearly, this is Roman's baby. Look at that smile on his face, and hear the enthusiasm in his voice. No grumpie Roman today (weeeell...maybe just a little with the brakes comment)!
Team TFL, I approve of those white steel wheels which are long overdue on a 4X4 in our market. Having said that, they would look so much better on a $28,000 2 door #Prado manual :-)
As a lifelong Jeep enthusiast , my 4 sons and I have built a number of Wranglers and owned many different Jeeps. We lived 35 minutes from the Rubicon. I started out with an original Gladiator in the 60's. Interestingly, my assigned vehicle in the Army was a Kaiser M715 Jeep 5/4 ton, straight 6. (gladiator). Being retired for a number of years, I now own a 2006 LR3 HSE. It has all of the locking diffs etc and 142,000 miles. I paid 7,000 for it from a small used Land Rover enthusiast /dealer who found it for me. He went through the vehicle with a fine tooth comb, He rebuilt the air suspension, fixed the heater core, etc. My 7 grandkids love it. they call it the "Jurassic Park Car". We absolutely love the LR3. One of the most capable and comfortable "trucks" I have driven. I think the new Defender looks very similar. I don't drive enough to justify a new Defender these days, but I like the fact you guys chose a box stock 4 banger, + a few extras where it counts, vehicle. We will be following along. Can't wait for the next video! Thanks for a great video!
I'm glad Roman and yourself do these reviews together"!!! You guys are magical and sincere working and having fun together ❤️!! At the same time you guys are really focused on us viewers and we love you guys for it!!! THANK YOU for letting us see it first with you guys!! God bless you!!
I specced mine similarly but I upgraded to the Defender S model. I felt I got a bit more bang for my buck at that upgrade, with partial leather seats (heated in the front) which I chose the Khaki green color interior, and the digital analogue. So far so good. Got mine in August, ordered in May.
I read an where one of the executives of land rover admitted that the defender takes the place of the discovery which is now positioned as a mainstream suv not a serious off road suv. If the disco 5 was like the discos before it they would've had a tough time justifying the defender especially in the United States
All of the greatest 4x4s I've owned have been 4 cylinder equipped. Jeep M38a1, I.H. Scout2, Land Rover Series 2a, then a Series 3, Toyota Tacoma, Jeep CJ5, Suzuki Samurai, and a Defender 90 200TDI. There is just something about the balance, the gear reduction, and the ability to not be overly concerned about running out of fuel with a six cylinder or a V8. I do enjoy my LR3 as well, but it slugs down so much fuel! Good choice on this Defender. Looking forward to in depth reviews.
We've owned 7 JLR Products over the years, and literally had ZERO issues with any of them! Currently have a 2017 F Pace, 2018 Velar and will be picking up a S Trim Defender in White! Everyone that whines about reliability kills me.....had a Camry for 6 months and couldn't wait to trade it...problems . True Story!
This is exactly what I want. Base D110 P300, white, steelies. Rear view camera is a must. Analog gauges are a must. Locking diffs is a must. I'd prioritize the sound system over the jump seat since this will be my new daily driver (so I can focus my JK as an off-road platform, not a daily driver) so I want the sound system. I also like the exterior black-out package and the fender guards. No jump seat, no third row. I preferred the black headliner. My preferred build was right about the same price as yours.
That is pretty much exactly the one that I would want but I would have kept the center console. Man those are overpriced! The price for that model shouldn't be over $40,000-$45,000, and that still may be too high. Can't wait to see what you all do with it.
If you want insulting; This is back on the market at Flatirons. For almost $4000 more than your sticker, even after all those problems and 920 miles that they were well aware of.
Would you tell us the audience if this newer defender has much better reliability like engine, transmission and electrical system? I'm asking just because lot of owners saying that their land rover got problems after 1 year especially electrical system and resale value that not as good as Toyotas. Also expensive maintenance and repair because parts are hard to find. So I don't know if that still the case for 2020 or 2021 models. I'm just hoping the Defender isn't one of them. Thanks for providing us with details. Keep up the work. 👍
Fifty grand would buy you a hell of a lot of second hand Land Cruiser, and you could still afford to drive around and recover a whole heap of Land Rovers. 😁
It says something about JLR reliability when the parts manager drives an FCA product. Cool purchase nonetheless - those defenders come with a lot standard, dont need to add too much to get a great off roader/overlander.
Jackson Scott that’s certainly valid. But JL wranglers can be optioned into the $45-50k+ range. Land rovers depreciate a ton, so he surely could’ve gotten a CPO low mile discovery/velar for the same price as a loaded wrangler.
Agreed, it’s a bad look when your employees drive direct competitors. But these defenders also typically cost a lot more than even a well optioned wrangler. Their $55k model is kind of a unicorn.
Happy you guys made a vid on the entry level instead and ketp it real. Get what you need and skip what you do not. Great vid. Wish more youtubers could opt for the "realistic feedback/options" thank you
I'm really happy someone is reviewing the basic model of the Defender. I'd like to get one, but a basic car feels more authentic to was Defender is/was. Thanks
Awesome! I just jumped over here from your purchased video. Cannot wait to see you out on the trails with this rig! Want to see you use every off road function it has. :). Congrats.
I am glad you bought it so you can speak freely about the vehicle. Please be real about your adventures, every review I have seen appears to be a commercial versus a real critique of the vehicle.
2015-2020 tahoe,yukon in base model ls.. has option 3 seats front same as this car .. so it’s literally a 9 seaters ,. Kind a hard to find and I think it’s great ... not sure about 2021 models tho
@@legendaryamerica maybe, it had like 100 and something miles and had CEL already on and it was problems in cylinders 3 and 4 something like that. They said they are taking it back to a dealership. They posted it couple of days ago.
The steel wheels look ridiculous, but I love them. I'm all for function over form in an off roader, and I don't need my wheels to be an expensive fashion statement.
Hey guys, great video, I have LR 3 SE spec but manual seats too, I prefer it as the only time I have moved a seat is when I need the back seats all the way flat, you have done exactly what I would do if buying new Landrover. Well done
I haaaaaate the new Disco. They gave me one when I took my Range Rover in for service. The only positive thing I had to say about it was it rode smoother than my RR, which that basically boils down to wheel and tire set up. What ever it was powered by had no get up at all, then again I'm used to the 500 the RR has.
Congratulations!!! I think you've made a wise and reasonable choice. After all, we've come to enjoy real off-road and you have all the necessary accessories for that! And it's still so expensive so the fully loaded one can wait for a bit later... I'm super happy for you!!! Have fun with it and of course let as see that...!
Its a Ford unit, make of that what you will, I have never had one fail, they seem to have waterpump issues and crank sensors seem to just go at any when from 10 hours to not failing with in 250k miles, but again both if those are ford units
The name "Land Rover" will always be magic to my ears! I'll be interested to see what you think of your new Defender when you take it to Moab. Thanks for this nice video!
Thats honestly too expensive for that package. Considering the dashboard lights are going to be on for sure on this money pit definitely not worth that much
Looking good! I look forward to your comparisons of this versus other off-roaders. Especially the 2020 JGC Trailhawk which I shall take delivery of when I get back in the States in November ( I am in Europe/Greece right now). I already know the differences in the whatamagiggies (?!) they each have, and, in my opinion the Trailhawk comes out ahead, especially when you take into consideration the (huge) price difference. It is the off-roading capabilities of each, and when compared to each other, that I want to see! Again, Good luck with it.
Good purchase guys! Not adding on more expensive options that will break sooner or later. I agree $55k is eye watering but the new Bronco will cost as much and more.
This is what I just can't get over with this Land Rover, which you guys mentioned in passing. This thing is $55k, which could get you a decently optioned Wrangler or 4Runner, so I can't understand why someone would spend this money on a less reliable vehicle. I mean, $55k and you get hand-cranked seats, no heated steering wheel, no power outlet in the back, and the list goes on and on. The base 4Runner comes with a power outlet in the back. At this price point, most other offroad vehicles in this segment would come with power-adjustable heated leather seats, a heated steering wheel, and other nice options. I really appreciate you guys biting the bullet on this one for everyone to see because this vehicle seems awfully overpriced for what you get and it seems you guys already have the lit up check engine light that comes standard with every Land Rover lol. Only took a couple hundred miles. Good job, Brits.
Ummm.. How ya going to buy a Bronco that doesn't exist outside of the Ford marketing department? And when released what's to say it's not going to be crap? Don't believe the hype, go drive one first.
I wish it came in the Diesel. We would put it into our fleet as we have the yard set up with only one diesel pump for our other fleet trucks. I do question long-term reliability of the turbo 4, which I do know is more reliable than the 6, but it is a JLR product. But we shall see as you rack up the miles
You got leather or fake leather steering wheel. In Australia the cheapest 110 comes with (according to the configurator) a polyurethane steering wheel.
I wonder whether you can alter your camera's frame rate to avoid the dash lights flashing all the time? I'm fairly sure that it is possible with most cameras these days.
I really wish the spec you guys opted for was a common one. $55k too rich for my blood on an "off roader" but in 5 years when the resale hits and I could potentially get one for $25k from someone who just wanted the aesthetics and was thinking the same thing you were...NOW we're talking. Instead I'll probably have to wrestle with a $35k model that'll be full of electrical nightmares, a leaky sunroof and a perpetually limp-mode supercharged 6....
Do you think you will have trouble selling it later on as not many people will want a very low spec Land Rover as they are mostly moving into a competitor to the G wagon more than a wrangler? Love your videos guys 👍🏻
Nice rig. Can't wait for all the new content. something for me to do while waiting for my bronco. I like the way you have built it. I have been thinking about this path now that you can get sasquatch with the manual. I might go base and not badlands. I like your new rig. get on the road now and post new moab content this weekend.
Great initial review, gentlemen. You have bought well, and hopefully the vehicle holds up for you. This was just a few thousand dollars more than I paid last year for my wife’s new Wrangler S. Finally, it’s a shame that historically, the brand has such poor reliability. I wish that could be fixed. Thank you both.
Agreed. I can never see out my back window when full loaded. On my LR4 I can drive with my rearview camera on which I do often. But it’s a rearview parking cam so it helps some but not designed as a rear view mirror. I think that rearview mirror screen is an awesome idea.
6:48 Famous Last Words! ⚠︎🇬🇧 (See TFL video a few days later) Don't worry Roman, you didn't jinx it... All Land Rovers are jinxed as a last step rolling off the assembly line.
