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Here's Why I'd Choose The GR86 Over Supra Any Day... 

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In this video, I explain why I would take the Toyota GR86 overl the Toyota Supra any day! Do you agree?
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@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Do you agree with me? Let me know! Also, check out my latest Supra MT video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HIS045RVz10.html
@marcuswatson7566
@marcuswatson7566 Год назад
Nope
@novakillbones2140
@novakillbones2140 Год назад
I agree with your choice but I think the Supra is the ugliest car you can buy today. It's absolutely hideous. OTOH, it's Z4 sibling is one of the best looking cars on the road so it seems Toyota worked hard to make Supra so ugly. The GR86 and BRZ are both infinitely better looking than Supra.
@theojk
@theojk Месяц назад
@@novakillbones2140 you are high as a kite my friend. Never in a million years will the 86/brz be on the level of the Supra.
@richardhill3122
@richardhill3122 Год назад
GR86 gets my vote. Saw one in a parking lot. Looked great
@bobb.7899
@bobb.7899 Год назад
Just got an A91-MT so you know what I’d pick. It is a fantastic car. Drove 200 miles from the dealer after picking it up and I smiled the whole way home. This car wants to go. I was lucky to find one and able to get at MSRP.
@bikotheanimator6169
@bikotheanimator6169 Год назад
Right hahaha. I wish I had the money. I would buy a Supra so fast.
@walidyasin2039
@walidyasin2039 Год назад
Congratulations I got the Cu Later gray one and I know what you mean. This car looks better than a 911
@NGGamer-nb6bu
@NGGamer-nb6bu Год назад
Congrats. Got the 2023 3.0 prem last night. Drove back 200 miles from dealership as well. I haven’t stopped smiling since. What a car !!!
@bobb.7899
@bobb.7899 Год назад
@@NGGamer-nb6bu Congrats. What color did you get? I wanted the new blue if I hadn’t been able to get the CU Later Gray.
@NGGamer-nb6bu
@NGGamer-nb6bu Год назад
@@bobb.7899 I went with nocturnal. Gives me the batmobile vibes lol
@purabus5450
@purabus5450 Год назад
really liked your video, you got strainght to the point, and didn't make the vid to long. 3min was just perfect for this topic right here.
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Thanks!!! I appreciate that
@manny8898
@manny8898 Год назад
I have the 22 gr86 but I’m getting so bored of it and I’m planning on trading it in for the 2024 supra whenever it comes out Lol
@kevindepew8193
@kevindepew8193 4 месяца назад
What on earth is boring about the Toyota GR86? If you find the GR86 boring to drive, I seriously doubt you are going to like the Supra or pretty much any car. On the street, the GR86 is one of the most fun cars that exists today. Unless you just like extreme acceleration, the GR86 is awesome.
@sunburntodin910
@sunburntodin910 Год назад
I would have to go 86. Add a couple turbos and be set. Plus I like it being more simplistic. I still drive my 06 Eclipse GT.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 7 месяцев назад
You want a simplistic car but you’re going to add turbos and all the supporting mods and tune it and hope it doesn’t blow up? LOL. You make no sense😂
@joshtweed9042
@joshtweed9042 Год назад
Got a 2020 Sequoia army green named the hulk got a 2022 forerunner lime rush named Leonardo ninja turtle and a 2023GR 86 white storm trooper I love my lineup
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Josh that is one awesome line up you got going on man!!
@jbzookeeper
@jbzookeeper Год назад
I would have to go Supra, a tune can give you a extra 100hp abs still be reliable. Imo it looks way better and will keep its value more.
@mindfull777
@mindfull777 Год назад
The 86 can drive through the winter's and be reliable kept stock.
@ukumra
@ukumra 7 месяцев назад
WRX FOR THE WINTER!😀@@mindfull777
@kevindepew8193
@kevindepew8193 4 месяца назад
Not sure about keeping value better. BMWs aren't known for resale value due to the insane maintenance costs. BMWs are great when under warranty. Not so much afterwards. I expect it will sadly be the same with the Supra.
@lamboviw6683
@lamboviw6683 18 дней назад
​@@kevindepew8193 I don't think so. You can call it a BMW all you want but it is still a Supra, which is unlikely in its current form to come back in the next generation. It's production will probably cease after next year and then I imagine it will hold value well compared to BMWs. Also, the B58 has been a proven reliable engine and I haven't heard of many chronic issues with the GR Supra, so warranty or not this car can hold its own. Combined with the relatively low supply of Supra's out there, it will definitely keep value better than the GR86.
@supervong1
@supervong1 10 месяцев назад
Supra= Rich man's GR 86 GR86= Poor man's Supra Supra all day
@BroVCam
@BroVCam 18 дней назад
In the words of the late great P.W. Walker; "I want'uhm both!" 😁😅✌🏽❤✊🏽
@Just-Two-Bros
@Just-Two-Bros Год назад
The last thing I need is to get a speeding ticket… so I’d have to pick the 86! 😂 PS: I just bought my 86 this week.. super excited to get it in!!
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Good choice! ENJOY!
@paulf9653
@paulf9653 Год назад
I'm a horsepower guy so I'd have to pick the Supra if money wasn't the deciding factor. I few little tweaks and it's an animal.
@FredyVergaraShow
@FredyVergaraShow Год назад
Im moving to La from nyc and need a car! Between both. Gr86 cheaper payment and fun and has small back seats (im into taking on turns instead of straight line) Manual Supra. Rwd too and has the name and i think will hold its value more for many years. Both are over msrp. I think if i were to get gr86 id eventually want the Supra. So have to go with Supra!
@MadelnMachines
@MadelnMachines Год назад
Which is more easily provoked and fun for oversteer? I prefer the supra inside and out and it's even better under the bonnet! The best think about the GR86 is probably it's lack of weight.
@mathewg1747
@mathewg1747 Год назад
Do you know what an upscale equivalent of the GR86 would be? I'm older, and want to move from my gen1 now that the GR86 is clearly the better vehicle, but like you said, it's not "date night." If you can suggest anything that drives as well as well as the 86, but with more upscale, grand touring qualities?
@smallthings6590
@smallthings6590 Год назад
As far as I know there's no companies that make a similar but high end car to the 86.
@ahrapattoni
@ahrapattoni Год назад
Used Porsche Cayman
@smallthings6590
@smallthings6590 Год назад
@@ahrapattoni A cheap porsche is something that must be bought new otherwise it screams I'm broke.
@mathewg1747
@mathewg1747 Год назад
Wow sounds like I will have to decide between a newish Porsche or a lightly used gen 2/3, hoping they make a 3, and just beef up the interior to save dough. I really love gen 1 I hate to see it go
@michaelwakim2198
@michaelwakim2198 Год назад
@@mathewg1747 Depending on which year first gen you have, the interior of the new 86 is a massive improvement. The quality of materials is noticeably higher, and the car feels more premium. The only 1st gen that matches the quality in my opinion is the Hakone edition 2020 GT86 with the caramel accents and proper armrest, but really any first gen made after 2018 is close
@arc9812
@arc9812 Год назад
They are both awesome
@YGSnB
@YGSnB Год назад
Supra for me, 86 suit more for 25 year old and younger
@acebrawler
@acebrawler Год назад
At heart.
@GT-ie7uu
@GT-ie7uu Год назад
86 everyday twice on Sunday I can buy 2 86 for one supra (depending on options) plus it’s fun to drive without having to worry about losing your car or license cause of driving too quick
@fahler14
@fahler14 Год назад
If the car has a manual odds are you will have fun . Slow sport cars are sometimes more fun . I drove a 320i for 7 years… shit was a blast and you legit couldn’t crash it …. Just wasn’t that fast .
@realitycheck469
@realitycheck469 Месяц назад
GR 86 is great for the kids: reasonable price, better insurance rates, no “crazy power” to get in trouble. Yes. I am trolling. (Truth: Both are great for what they are and I respect the drivers of each because they are both for people who like to drive).
@inditube2
@inditube2 Год назад
86 all day lower weight and no broke my wallet tax and plastic cooling components
@theojk
@theojk Месяц назад
At least you’re kind of getting at the real reason for why you pick gr86 over the Supra. And that is… you just can’t afford the better car.
@guyringoir6879
@guyringoir6879 Год назад
Why would you compare a 3.0 Supra with a 2.0 GR86, when there is also a 2.0 Supra ? I drove a BRZ 2.0 from Subaru (they say it's almost the same feeling as a GR86) and a Supra Fuji Speedway edition (2.0). First I drove the BRZ. It felt nice but it under- performed. It needed some supercharger / turbo to keep it interesting for me. The minute I drove the Supra, it was perfect for me. I bought one.
@Pharaoh_The_Great
@Pharaoh_The_Great 8 месяцев назад
I would choose the gr86 as far as looks, legacy, reliability, affordability and performance. (Though I still prefer the frs) Also at least the GR86 has a manual e brake too.
@theojk
@theojk Месяц назад
Looks and legacy? Bro put down the pipe.
@beeslandscaping
@beeslandscaping Год назад
I think the brz is better
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Agreed. Depends on the purpose of purchase, but it is a great and fun car.
@kevindepew8193
@kevindepew8193 4 месяца назад
I would get the Supra EXCEPT I don't trust its reliability and maintenance cost. I don't mind paying the up-front cost, but BMWs are ridiculously expensive to maintain. Things like replacing VANOS seals at 50,000 miles is insane. At 50,000 miles you should have only needed to replace brake pads and maybe spark plugs (and fluids of course). I trust Subaru quality over BMW quality any day (though I would really rather have Toyota quality).
@enekoprins
@enekoprins Год назад
I ordered a GR86 because it's half the price of the Supra... but aren't we all praising the GR86 a bit too much? I am afraid it won't live up to these high expectations.
@TerryManitoba
@TerryManitoba Год назад
Between all 3 GR Corollas & Supra & GR 86 If availability was equal and the price for "one vehicle" no object - which one of the above you would get for track days For a bit more fun - under the same restrictions which one would you get for a canyon carver/daily driver/no kids???
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
It would be hard to pass on the corolla core edition. I'd probably pick that but with the GR86 as a very very close second.
@TerryManitoba
@TerryManitoba Год назад
@@TRDJonI hear you. I've got my deposit on a Cuicuit - if possible - if not a Core. My Fiesta ST will now be put out to pasture-:)
@subfloor2022
@subfloor2022 25 дней назад
Why not both?
@anthonyphillips7644
@anthonyphillips7644 Год назад
My question is why no one is comparing the 2.0 supra to the 86? They always compare the 3.0
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Agreed.
@p-zerolegendcaldwell3654
@p-zerolegendcaldwell3654 Год назад
I will take the 86 anyday
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Great choice
@shanem5738
@shanem5738 Год назад
Great video. GR86 everyday 🙂
@clarencehoover6748
@clarencehoover6748 Год назад
Agree... GR86 👍
@rz7818
@rz7818 Год назад
Geez if I could afford the Supra I'd do the A91-MT Supra.
@RichieRichMo3
@RichieRichMo3 Год назад
I own the 10th gen
@aneelejaz8097
@aneelejaz8097 Год назад
I'd go with 86 for reliability!
@TerrannotOP
@TerrannotOP Год назад
then you have no idea what you talking about. the b58 is bulletproof unlike the boxer engine.
@anthonyphillips7644
@anthonyphillips7644 Год назад
86 definitely more reliable . B58 known for valve cover leaks, coolant consumption, oil filter disintegration,and carbon build up.And don't forget the $6000 when the turbo shelf life runs out 😀
@acebrawler
@acebrawler Год назад
86 all the way. We have a ‘21 4Runner TRD Pro and a ‘23 GR86 Premium manual in our driveway.
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Great driveway!!
@acebrawler
@acebrawler Год назад
@@TRDJon we also have a BMW for date night. Lol
@ak740_
@ak740_ Год назад
The 86 is the closest you’ll get to the driving experience of a 911 gt3 for a fraction of the price. The Supra is just a bmw.
@realnapster1522
@realnapster1522 Год назад
It’s a monster of a. Engine B58.
@kobedabest
@kobedabest Год назад
And the 86 is just a Subaru 🤷🏻
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 7 месяцев назад
Says the guy who’s never driven either car lol
@AR-ym5qx
@AR-ym5qx 6 месяцев назад
What’s wrong with BMW? Funny that it’s always people who have never driven a BMW that cuss them yet anyone who has owned a BMW is a diehard fan. Saying that I would get the GR86 purely from a financial aspect but I’d rather an M240i (that’s a beemer)
@Kichoman1983
@Kichoman1983 6 месяцев назад
Currently own a supra MT and with hours of seat time with the new brz and 997.1 gt3, I can say that 86/brz cannot remotely be compared to any generations of gt3. Please… even the newer gt3 such as the 991.2 MT is heaps ahead of the 86/brz. 86/brz are great cars for the money and I truly appreciate that Toyota/Subaru continue to make them, but journalists are hyping them up like it’s the best driving machine on the planet. The electric steering is fast and direct but lacks mechanical feedback. Again, the GR Supra blows the 86/brz out of the water, period. It’s half the price, but not double the fun.
@joeyn7399
@joeyn7399 Год назад
More power = more fun.
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
In some cases for sure. But the 86 is DIALED as a drivers car.
@57900ltc
@57900ltc Год назад
I don’t know about the 86 but the super if you a big man don’t buy
@PureBlood777
@PureBlood777 Год назад
Since I haven’t driven either of them I have to go off of looks and power so the supra for me
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
The Supra looks are incredible for sure
@theojk
@theojk Месяц назад
This is as good and honest of an answer you can get… unlike these guys claiming they prefer the GR86, for whatever dishonest reason other than they simply can’t afford one!
@hardchemist
@hardchemist Год назад
Choice #3 - BRZ
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Why is that?
@hardchemist
@hardchemist Год назад
@@TRDJon The BRZ suspension tuning is better for daily driver, explained very well in an 8/31/2021 article by Road & Track's Brian Silvestro. Also the Subaru looks a bit more conservative (I'm not a flashy person), and finally there are far fewer BRZ units being produced vs. GR86. I have a dark blue manual in the upper spec on order at this time.
@theojk
@theojk Месяц назад
I love these videos comparing the GR86/brz to a Supra like, they’re even comparable. The gr86 isn’t even on the level of the s2000.
@jamesc8600
@jamesc8600 Год назад
Definitely 86. And still have another my to put down on a house or go on holiday 5 times of buy a rolex! 😄
@rommelmiranda3286
@rommelmiranda3286 Год назад
ill go for supra offcource better power better interiour
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Premium interior for sure. But the 86 is nice still
@kato_dsrdr
@kato_dsrdr Год назад
The gr86 looks better at least for me.
@omedaslami
@omedaslami Год назад
Gr86 is so beautiful and fun
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
It for sure is
@Gotallofthem1
@Gotallofthem1 Год назад
This guy actually said I wasn't a fan of the rear cause it was Porsche like........hmmm LOL WTF? Is this guy serious? Who the heck says something like that. If back end looked like a Yaris or some other cheap car I could see the complaint but come on, seriously.
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Yea...POORsche....
@robinwilliams8609
@robinwilliams8609 Год назад
Supra all the way!!!🔥🔥
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Oh yea!??!
@MoQureshi-ti1nj
@MoQureshi-ti1nj 4 месяца назад
Supra for me
@Wxman9123
@Wxman9123 Год назад
Mk4 Supra
@PureBlood777
@PureBlood777 Год назад
Right
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
It’s a classic but needs mods to be good
@Mr99Burns
@Mr99Burns Год назад
86
@blackwolfresearch1294
@blackwolfresearch1294 Год назад
Supra all the way for me!
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
You can't go wrong with the Supra, that is for sure.
@ukumra
@ukumra Год назад
"I would pick an 86 over a Supra." -No One Ever
@TRDJon
@TRDJon Год назад
Many would
@billiardbrawler
@billiardbrawler Год назад
well, I owned a new supra 3.0 and traded it in after 6 months. beautiful car but too fidgety ( felt like the tail was wagging the dog) at the limit on back roads. Very sketchy with the light steering. I drive pretty hard at the limit and felt it was going to be my coffin. Traded it for a better car that is actually faster but instills much more confidence. Ordered a gr86 because of the low power and add lightness formula is sooooo rewarding....you can drive this car at 7/10 or 9/10 and have boatloads of fun where as the supra will get you in trouble at 3 or 4/10 ths.
@pargolf3158
@pargolf3158 Год назад
You must not have read any of the comments
@Nobody-sb8fj
@Nobody-sb8fj 8 месяцев назад
​@@pargolf3158Either that or he is just plain ignorant
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 7 месяцев назад
@@billiardbrawlermaybe your tires suck or you can’t drive because my 3.0 is fantastic pushing it hard thru the mountain roads
@Arid379
@Arid379 Год назад
Toyota supra is very special. The GR eight six engine still is too slow in time and one second too slow.. But is well rounded car balanced and not enough in term of getting better time slip. The 0-60 times is one second too slow @6.1 second time. The car needs better pick up speed. Not enough to win races
@naten555
@naten555 Год назад
BMW > Subaru
@kevindepew8193
@kevindepew8193 4 месяца назад
Subaru > BMW when it comes to reliability and maintenance.
@naten555
@naten555 4 месяца назад
@@kevindepew8193 b58s last forever. much longer than any turbo subaru engine. My coworker has one with over 200k on it zero issues.
@TerrannotOP
@TerrannotOP Год назад
so that means you'd lose any day, even if you spend 20k on the gr86, it will not surpass the supra. It will only beat more unreliable.
@876yuugt
@876yuugt Год назад
86. Supra is too heavy and nothing kills fun more than weight.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 7 месяцев назад
lol you’ve clearly never driven a Supra😂😂😂
@876yuugt
@876yuugt 7 месяцев назад
@19hundoc47 I had a Launch Edition. It's a boat with 3 turns lock to lock and a very soft and squishy rear end. Also? The vents are all fake. Because it's a GT. Not a sports car. But? Thanks for letting us all know you can't drive....
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 7 месяцев назад
@@876yuugt Sure you had a launch edition bro 😂 and you think the 86 that will get gapped by a Camry is a better sports car?😂 you’ve never driven either and you’re 13 years old so it’s time for you to get to class little one🤣
@876yuugt
@876yuugt 7 месяцев назад
@19hundoc47 nope. I raced shifter karts, tested GT3 cars. 2800 lbs at 30K Nm/degree chassis vs 3400 lbs & 40K Nm/degree. Only 13 year olds use one metric to judge a sports car. Thanks for letting us all know you can't drive 🏎
@touayaaj84
@touayaaj84 Год назад
As a supra owner, it’s the supra. Drove the twins, too under power. Toyota Camrys will gap you………
@BEETHMODE84
@BEETHMODE84 Год назад
Supra don’t be stupid
@Mike604
@Mike604 Год назад
gr86 needs 300hp minimum in line with the GR Corolla to earn that GR badge. Without it should just be called the base 86 - take away the GR
@TerrannotOP
@TerrannotOP Год назад
If you are barely getting into the car scene, gr86 is a great choice. Supra is a man's car.
@realnapster1522
@realnapster1522 Год назад
BMW daddy 😂
@kevindepew8193
@kevindepew8193 4 месяца назад
If the Supra were a Toyota, it would be great. Sadly, the Supra is a BMW, which means it comes with BMW reliability and maintenance, which is NOT a good thing.
@TerrannotOP
@TerrannotOP 4 месяца назад
@@kevindepew8193 the BMWs you must see are the n55 and n54. Don't worry, once you start living in a decent neighborhood or the current ones are 10 years older, you will take this comment back.
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