Here's Why the Most Hated 911 Turbo Is Also the Best 911 Turbo (ALMOST) 

Imagine one with an extra 350 whp... these cars are bonkers

Forget the lights, it’s the hideous interior that’s the issue for most

Just makes them a better deal for the rest of us sensible enthusiasts!

@@TheSoundofSpeed If only Hoovie would stop promoting them - I know I personally want one now.

You Gotta Admit The Pre-facelift 996 Was Horrendous.

@@jasonandrsen yeah, I'm not a huge fan but as I always say about my 996tt, you can't see the headlights from the driver's seat!

@@jasonandrsen I certainly agree that the facelift model like Hoovie's does look better... Personally I'd probably upgrade the nose if I found a great deal on a pre-facelift model - if it can be done without major modification.

haha

It is entertaining to see the new video next month on the car when things fail and the wizard laughs to the bank with money.

I have the 2019 turbo S full option and i love it i made a review of it on my channel. It would be great if you guy could check it out

It'll break or burn down eventually... just wait :P

lol

Exactly!

Porsche drivers don’t buy cars for their future values. We are not Ferrari owners.

Hugo Fernandes couldn’t agree more, often times purist are a boring bunch and almost as annoying as the Nissan GTR and the BMW fanboys Cheers

Totally agree to both. I love my 996tt and wouldn't take a newer 997 or 991 over it. We need more people to stand up for the headlights!

I don't like the Fried egg look, but I love the look of this facelifted headlights

I have the 2019 turbo S full option and i love it i made a review of it on my channel. It would be great if you guy could check it out

@GTi Mk5 I totally forgot about that game! Wonder if I can find a copy somewhere haha.

You're

I don't think he buys any car with the intention of keeping it.

^this

Oh so its a moneyshift counter.

problem with the SM is that they are a nightmare to fix if there are problems with the hydraulic system (which there will be on cheap ones)

Steve Normand Yes, you're right. Hoovie would love the DS or the SM. My grand father had a Citroën DS and this is a wonderful car.

I would love to see Hoovie buy a Citroen DS! And he can do a speed bump comparasion with his Phantom. Another great car would be the W100 Mercedes 600. Or a 1960's Phantom (or a Silver Cloud if a Phantom is over his budget).

Or an Aston Martin Lagonda! How much do they sell for in the US?

I have a DS for sale in Iowa...

you just fucked me up

🙌 totally agree. I just test drove a 997 turbo, wouldn't take it over my 996tt.

just out of curiosity why did you guys gets get porches? what was the deciding factor?

@@captainfancypants4933 I wanted a daily drivable sportscar with AWD for the winter. I also wanted something that was under the radar and could blend in as Hoovie mentioned, rather than have something very "Hey, look at me!". Plus 996 turbos are super mod friendly. My 996 turbo now makes over 700hp to the wheels. Not many cars that can hang with that.

@@TheSoundofSpeed how do you fare with 700hp to deal with in snow? Do you have a low HP setting?

@@M_773 yeah, I can adjust boost from 12 psi all the way up to 23 psi. Makes 731 awhp on 23 psi, and 600 or so on 12 psi. But mostly even on the high boost setting, you just don't get into boost if its wet or snowy. These cars are actually quite docile if you're not in boost. Cruises around town just as well as it destroys at the track.

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I have the 2019 turbo S full option and i love it i made a review of it on my channel. It would be great if you guy could check it out

Fried egg headlights is the only reason people hate it so much. I owned one and love the way it looked...really.

Its the first gen 996 that look ugly. Those 996.2 are OK.

@@williambremner9022 everyone says fried eggs. But the 996 turbo never had them. Only the Carrera and Boxter had them. It's a horrible misconception.

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I personally think there's some RU-vid algorithm that adds dislikes! I've seen videos that in no way could have a dislike, but there they are, disliking moms funeral!!

Nope. Thumbs up

We all know you’re a good sport, Wizard. Just joking around!

Close. It counts BOTH types of over-rev conditions. Nobody cares about the acceleration counter. Mine had thousands of them. Now the "accidentally shifted from 5th to 2nd" ignition is bad. Those will cause problems.

really? on 996s too? i thought that was 997 only. Thanks for correcting me. @@charlesml3

When you accelerate, isn't there a rev limiter that kicks in before going into that Big Brother 1984 zone?

There are two types here is the shortest and easiest way to understand: Type I indicate bumping into the rev limiter on the way up. Type II indicate possible mis-shifts on the way down. Nobody really cares about type 1 but type 2.... could be trouble

Is there no tool available to wipe the memory of the redline recorder?

Lol there are plenty of us from Kansas bud

There is 2 we know of

i know steve morse used to be there in the 80s.

@@valkyriesurvives5109 Plenty being you, hoovie and the wiz?

I'm in Kansas and I'm cool as hell

And if you ever want to come to Utah and try out a 996 turbo with 700+ wheel horsepower, let me know!

You're a real car owner, I'm hard on cars, and never even think of resale. Drive it till the wheels fall off, and smile!!

@@garyjohnson4575 absolutely! The joy is worth far more than the money! 😁👍

Garret your car is slow........I'll bring mine out and show you what 4 digits feels like.......when it's done lol.

@@flewis763 yeaahhh... show me an idle video then I'll be scared 😉

Yes you are. It's hideous.

You are not alone. I love my 996 turbo!

I have grown to like the nose

100%, amazing vehicles

Give it a week or 2, youll see a video on what he did to it to break beyond repair :)

Hope he doesn't take it to the track.

he doesnt, its a bullshit flimsy excuse to make a video case in point, he didnt check any logs before buying

iLupi there are two types: Type I indicate bumping into the rev limiter on the way up. Type II indicate possible mis-shifts on the way down. Type II is what you should worry about

It really is amazing styling. I've owned mine for 3 years now and love it. Now making over 700 hp to the wheels!

He cant, he has to sell it because it is not breaking down on him and costing him money.

Jonathan Parker This is his shtick, it’s all a show. Don’t take it seriously.

reminds me of the people who buy a ferrari then don't drive it because it reduces it's resell value...so why buy a car that you can't drive? They fall into the "more money than brains category".

@@muskokamike127 I'd say someone who daily drives a Ferrari is the one with more money than brains. You don't get rich by throwing away money, and driving a Ferrari to get groceries or drop your kids off at school is needlessly devaluing the car. So they don't drive it unless they have a special reason to. Nobody buys a Ferrari to keep it forever, and when the owner inevitably sells it, he's going to want to get enough from the sale to buy a new supercar without losing tens of thousands of dollars.

@@mattcelder like most morons, you take what I said and distort it to prove your point. Where did I say "daily drive"? Where did I say "get groceries"? BTW: as for the groceries comment, did you know that McLaren advertised the F1 was so manageable and roomie that you COULD use it to get groceries? Buying a ferrari and not driving it is like buying a house and never living in it, buying a big flat screen and never watching it, and if you knew anything about cars you'd know not driving a car at all is just as bad as driving it too much. BTW: just using the 2005 F430 as an example, and albeit I don't know enough about the various versions to say which is which, but the resell pricing is about half of what they were sold for. So one with 23,000 miles is listed for $98K and one with 7500 miles is listed for 115K. So by putting about 2000 miles a year and enjoying your purchase or driving it rarely at 800 miles per year works out to be about 10% of the value of the vehicle. Well, that's just stupid. Considering they weren't all that special with about 10,000 units made. Now if you have a limited production vehicle like the Enzo or something? That's a different story. But a regular production run, if you think you're sitting on a gold mine and in 20 years you're going to reap millions by having one with 2000K on it, well, you're in for a rude awakening because I see them going through BJ or Mecum all the time and it ain't a Dino.

They are beastly cars. I have one that makes over 700 hp to the wheels. Certainly a hand full but so enjoyable!

Hell yeah. Love hearing from headlight supporters! I love my 996tt!

I'd actually like to have a Pacer - it's a car you can actually SEE out of the back corners. I also want a Thing and a Gremlin.

@Forever Conflicted - if you look at them, you'll notice that the Gremlin and the Pacer are basically the same car from the seats forward. It's only the back end that really changed. The Thing, to me, is notable for being one of the few cars where you can replace just about every body panel with a sheet of plywood :)

@Forever Conflicted - Which came first didn't matter. Just meant that they used the same body to start. It's much like the Ford Festiva (not the Fiesta!) and the Kia Sportage (pre 2004). If you park them side by side, you'd go "Hey, someone blew up a Festiva and called it an SUV!" They were both made by Kia, and used a lot of Mazda parts. (Family had two Festivas and I had a '98 Sportage. Loved that car.)

@Forever Conflicted - They actually were great cars, and were worth what they cost. The biggest problem they had, that we saw, was that after 150k, or if you drove the absolute crap out of them, they were prone to engine oil leaks. For the price, after 7-10 years, they generally weren't worth dropping another engine into them, or doing a full engine rebuild. Comfort wise - my 6' father could drive one comfortably, and my 5'2" mother could drive it comfortably as well. The 5 speed standard also did 50mpg through the mountains. No frame problems, no body problems, no weird suspension problems - just the usual for age. Most of their parts were interchangeable with my Mazda 323 at the time. I suspect that their bad reputation came from people that bought cheap, drove hard, and then complained about them not being the same quality build as a car that cost twice as much. My folks bought two of them - one four, and one five speed - for the cost of one higher quality car. My brother burned out the engine in the 4 speed, but it still took him 4-5 years, and the 5 speed lasted another two or three years beyond that. (he tried to get the engine reworked, but the people he paid to do it did a terrible job and even warped the head. I suspect they tried to bluff their way through it, but it was NOT a standard iron engine. )

@Forever Conflicted - That's one of the reasons I'm driving a 2007 Pontiac Vibe. I bought a 2003 Vibe _in_ 2003 from a car rental company - for about half of what it was new. I then bought this 2007 as a replacement, for $4025, cash, with less than 140k miles. I drove past the moon in the first one, I've put two years on this one, and I figure I have another two to four years, minimum, before worrying about a replacement. It's a Toyota Corolla frame, engine, seats, and most of the rest of it. With a Pontiac badge. For yours - headliners aren't expensive to replace, an ozone generator can be bought for less than $75 that's good enough for small projects like a car, and the parts are readily available to fix just about anything on that vehicle. Rockauto.com can be your friend. See if you can borrow a carpet cleaner for a weekend, as well.

Do it! You wont regret it. I LOVE mine.

And they're so much faster once modified!

I personally would keep them I like the look

This car is a 996.2. Only the 996.1 had the fried egg headlights.

I feel a trend coming. Increasing the love for the eggs. I love my 996 turbo!

It's part of a nutritious breakfast.

@@Filipe1020 haha

I love hearing this kinda stuff. Makes me realize those who appreciated the 996 aren't in the minority. I love my 700hp 996 turbo!

From my understanding, range 1 is an over rev on acceleration. Range 2 is the money shift style.

The Sound of Speed the money shift. Bahahahahaha. This just in: 986/996: Range 1 is recorded ignitions At the limiter, Range 2 is recorded ignitions Beyond the limiter, aka "the money shift" 987/997/981/991 Range 1 & 2 record ignitions at or just below the limiter, Ranges 3 thru 6 represent "increasingly higher engine speeds" above the limiter Hence forth, I personally wouldn't be concerned with Range 1 reports on a 996 or Range 1/2 on a 997, as Porsche themselves will apply extended warranty on those models with those rev range hits as they don't see them as potentially problematic. Something about rev ranges 3-6 happening beyond 200 operating hours ago (with 50 hrs being not enough to verify any damages so keep on trucking until you get up to 200 please folks) will also ease their minds on the motors integrity and ext warr may still be applicable. Sourced: 911virgin

Lassi Kinnunen not really. Sounds more like a lot of people don't know what they're doing with a manual gearbox. Sounds also like the majority of customers/consumers are scared into expensive services they may not need.

Old Porsche never die...... they just smell that way......

@Forever Conflicted agreed. The hate is unjustified. I love my 996 turbo!

Turbos have a different engine, much more reliable

LMAO

nah, better go ej20 this time.

They are so underrated. I love my 996 turbo!

Was this a turbo or a Carrera?

@@TheSoundofSpeed Regular 911 Cab

Oh yes, and I currently daily drive a restored 1985 BMW 535i Manual with 100k miles n it (stop biting my cool steeze Hoovie! lol), also reviewed here by our friend Hoovster and it is by far the finest all-around car Ive ever owned. IN LOVE WITH THIS CAR.

Exactly. I bought my 996tt planning to drive it. And I love every minute of it! Especially at 700+hp

Do it, you wont regret it. I love mine!

There's always something. I love my 996tt!

Yessir! 🙌😁👍

Agreed

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Right? He probably has 2 more in storage...running the price up

Not a single letter?

Not evan won.

325i better

@@DylanChng yep i mean a normal e30 or an m3 e30.

Perfect recipe to ruin a fine looking porsche

@@lebrosca pERfECt REcipE tO rUiN A fINe loOKInG pORScHe.

@@lebrosca exactly what I was thinking

Koji is a ricer

I don't like Japanese cars despise my Japanese name.

He would have to wear a helmet to keep the wind out of his face since he doesnt have a roof or windscreen anymore :)

@@miked3168 or shocks

The most famous basketball player “in the world” isn’t going anywhere with Hoovie

@@joelsmith6681 Basketball thats basically a girls sport of netball where im from.

Im thinking the car cuts ignition already at redline. My 95 Crown Vic did that. Its downshifting at the while going too fast that is the problem. The engine would be forced mechanically over redline.

Sure, I’d want to know if someone had downshifted into the red, it’s soo damaging to any engine

Metzger engine is damn solid

@@Ranguvar13 Although this is true, let's not forget this is the same guy who bought a Bentley with a 10 year gap in its Carfax.

Metzgers wont blow up

@@ForTehNguyen with mods and lots of torque they lift heads and bend rods. But the most likely thing to happen is he loses one of the coolant pipes. But it doesn't seem like he's running it hard at all, so he will probably be fine.