Here's Why Xenosaga Remasters and 4 Might Be The Next Games 

I may not have made it clear enough but when I say Saga 4 in my video, I don't necessarily mean the next game in the Xenosaga series. I'm more referring to Xenoblade 4 incorporating the story of Saga 4 and them being basically the same thing. Xenoblade 4 but with Saga story and lore mixed in. Xenoblade 4 and Xenosaga 4 basically being one in the same

Go ahead, Takahashi, betray me in a good way. Whatever comes next will be vastly different. Go on the offense, just take my money

While I love X and wamt a sequel, I think Saga deserves to get their turn. It should get a Remastered to get on par with Blade or at least to upgrade Ep 1 and 2 to look and play like 3. But it would be a good timing to introduce it to new unfamiliar fans and ending it on the same scene that now triggered our theory monkeybrains. I am excited what happens with the series either way.

I think now with enough maturity, Takahashi has the possibility to create a new chapter of the Xeno series or the continuation of Xenoblade that could combine the very dark themes, the rich and dense lore aspect of Xenosaga and Xenogears with the more accessible, digestible, engaging and stylish style of Xenoblade to create the perfect balance that would reconcile the old Xenosaga fans with the new Xenoblade fans. Of course achieving such a thing and finding the right balance to content most people is always a denting task, but with such a long experience in producing very good JRPGs, I'm sure it's possible for Monolithsoft and combine both aspects the most masterfully is obviously the key to success. It's not only by releasing classic average cool and entertaining JRPGs that Takahashi and Monolithsoft made a name for themselves and the Xenoblade series, it's by trying to go further and proposing deeper and fascinating complex stories that make you question things, and even if this aspect is toned down in Xenoblade, it's still present and gives Xenoblade something more compared to most JRPGs. Of course the complex stories and ambitious lore are also what hurt the sales of Xenosaga for being less accessible, but that's also what brought critical acclaim to Monolithsoft thanks to more erudite people who could get philosophical, biblical and literary references. The error has never been to try to go deeper and more complex. It's just that Takahashi lacked the right way to convey it for a large audience to speak even to people who wouldn't have some major references. Of course I'm not saying he should do simpler stuff and the global population should rather strive for more learning than less cause the more knowledgeable, always the better for our society, but what Takahashi needed was the more flashy and entertaining approach of Xenoblade to captivate a larger audience and get more sales. It's a combination. The difficulty for Takahashi now and pretty much anyone who wants to be successful in many video game genres and beyond is finding the most entertaining and engaging ways to convey a rich, deep and complex story but I'm sure they can do even better than Xenoblade now to reach the level of complexity of Xenosaga. Regressing to something much simpler like most JRPGs would hurt the whole JRPG genre and probably even the whole video game industry as a all. People need to be interested the right way in more complexity, it's what develops critical thinking and the reflexive spirit of an individual. To get used to questioning things is fundamental.

My guess is that while the blue light represents KOS-MOS, she’s not just emitting light for no reason. I would guess that it is her energy shield, which she also used to at the end of episode I, to enter Second Miltia‘s atmosphere while not vaporizing. (extending it around the Elsa in a wing-like shape) We only saw the fully extended version, which represented wings. But These were also white with a blue glow around. Very much like the blue glowing white dot at the end of Future Redeemed.

Calling it now. The next one will be a racing game, Monado Grand Prix.

I don't have the money and TV setup for this! But i would love to play xenosaga remastered. I would love a sequel to xenoblade chronicles x (my favourite).

My crazy headcanon that ties it all together: Klaus’ experiment > Earth disappears and the Xenoblade games happen in their own dimensions over thousands of years > history and events of Xenosaga occur > Earth (Lost Jerusalem) reappears in the Xenosaga universe, but-this is vital to the theory-it comes back in the exact state it was in before disappearing, including all of the people who were living there (this also means they still think they’re in the year 20XX AD while the rest of the universe is in the TC era) > KOS-MOS falls to Earth and takes on the identity of Elma, helping the humans on Earth to catch up to the universe’s technological advancements > events of Xenoblade X happen > events of Xenogears way in the future after that Also let’s say the Samaarians have something to do with Soma Bringer lol. Source: I’ve played Xenoblade 1-3 + DLCs, I’m partway through X but know most of the plot details and about Elma, Xenosaga 1-3, and I’m near the end of Soma Bringer (though that inclusion is kind of a joke because of the similar names Soma/Samaar). I haven’t played Gears but I’ve seen the overarching plot in let’s plays, so that inclusion may not work without retcons I dunno. Edit: forgot to mention that, in this theory, the Ghosts in X are the souls/consciousnesses of everyone from the Blade universes and the mothership is Origin.

I never got to play the Xenosaga games when they released, so I'm looking forward to getting to play them for the first time. I still would like a sequel to Xenoblade X as it left us with a few cliffhangers.

Best video to end the year! 🎉

Xenosaga remakes would be a dream. Like what final fantasy just did with 7. Redo the old game story with new tech and combat systems.... yes please 🙏

At the beginning of xenogears there's also something falling into the new earth

I hope the Baten Kaitos Remasters did well, so Bandai Namco does greenlight Xenosaga Remakes or Remasters. Though I would like a full on remake in the style of Xenoblade.

I think many people are lacking perspective on how the older games are going to fit into the curreent canon. If Takahashi is going to retcon one of them in to fit this story he envisioned what is truly stopping him from retconning both games into current lore? X's ending was full of cliffhangers and unanswered question which solutions can be solved by bringing it into main canon.

22:35 What is that noise in the background of this RU-vid video of yours please.

A lot of this goes over my head because I've never actually played thelm, but if we do get remasters/remakes, I want them to keep a turn based system just because that's my favorite battle style. Also, as someone who has never experienced these games, I would like that story to be relatively untouched. One last thing, I don't know where I heard this, I could even be imagining it. When Xenoblade 3 came out, someone said Takahashi wanted to make something more "traditional" (4 elements, knights and magic, etc.)

so excited for the xenosaga reamsters!! (the title has a typo just fyi)

If you are still not convinced, please go watch Luxin's video about it (linked below). I am notoriously horrendous at explaining things in detail concisely. He makes a much more coherent and convincing case for Xenosaga. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lc-3KrXyaAs.htmlsi=2kT13pkt_eZiR5Gs

Xenosaga is a great series and KOS-MOS is my favorite!

>Xenosaga 4 being a thing Don't give me false hope!

If they remaster Xenosaga 1, they need to do the other games too. It'd kinda stink if they only did the first, and didn't touch the others.

Let's see Wilhelm! XD I can do his voice quite well actually. Wilhelm vs. Yeshua in Lost Jerusalem. Jin wakes up in the past. Kos-Mos falls to earth. Or maybe Wilhelm is closer to Roman Emperor Nero if its in the ancient past. Or maybe Earth present day before the discovery of the Zohar in Africa? Let's see Wilhelm playing HaKox. :)

Omfg!!!!!!! Yessssss this is my favorite underrated rpg of all time.

We are gonna get Xenosaga remasters first and then Xenoblade X definitive edition on Switch 2, thats for sure

Takahashi, I'm ready ready for whatever you want to give me in 2024!

impov lets be honest, they dont mention Philadelphia class mothership for he hell of it. You got to go deep into lore know what that is. If you know, you know so I think whats going to be retconned is the dates/time and there will be an explanation as to how it all became linear. btw where the hell is the conduit/Zohar lol. Also, if you think about it, this covers the mysterious story gap of what the hell happened to earth in the saga series/perfect works this whole time. So now that the matter shift event happened in saga and Lost Jerusalem is back, its no coincidence KOSMOS floated right back to earth. Demetri doesnt seem like he can actually disappear due to himself conscious shifting similar to Miang in Gears. IMPOV this next Xeno game will be thee Xeno game we all wanted even since the original gears game....i hope.

Imo rather than remasters the Saga series may need full on remakes so that all of them (all 3 or maybe even more if they expand on things not covered well in the original versions to need another game) have the same cohesive art style (the biggest issue with the original versions of the games imo as all 3 look far too different from each other and not in a good way for a series of games who's stories were all interconnected (Trails kinda gets away with this due to only changing art styles/engines each arc but keeping them the same for the games in that respective arc, Saga swapped the art style and maybe even engines each game)...they probably should've just kept the 1st game's art style for all the games (would've also made budgeting the series a bit easier)) and core combat system (each game after the first can of course add in new systems I guess but the core combat system should work the same with each game regardless of if it's turn based, action, MMO style like Xenoblade, a hybrid system of turn based and action, or maybe even a system that lets you swap between turn based and action (kinda like Kuro no kiseki/Trails through Daybreak))...basically think of say Tales of Xillia 1 and 2 and how 2 added in the weapon weakness system on top of the elemental weakness system that was in the first game or how in the Crossbell Trails games they added Master Quartz in Azure while Zero didn't have said system on top of the Burst system as well which was added in Azure). And while I have not played the Xenosaga games I have heard that there has been quite a few plot points that felt iffy/not developed well enough or just rushed which could get expanded on as well as rumors of plot points cut out entirely (not to mention 3 more games which means a lot was rushed to put it in just 3 games) this would allow them to fix these issues which may need another game to adequately split the games' events up well to fit any new plot points/rewrites to make the story more solid. With all this said if they do remake the games there is a good possibility that a lot will be cut out and reworked to fit a smaller amount of games rather than expanded on by focusing more on the OG game's main story almost like how FFVIIR is handling the FF7 remake (granted...they're making more games in that case but that's splitting 1 game into 3 and massively expanding on Midgar to a ridiculous degree (mostly by much longer cutscenes, expanding on existing plot points, and making dungeons much longer (especially Hojo's) more so than by adding many more new main points) as that section was originally just 3 hours or so). This does not necessarily mean it'll be bad mind you as depending on how they rewrite things it may wind up being written better by focusing on specific plot points more while dropping others that may not have been as necessary as the most important plot points in the OG games (all games generally have tons of stuff that could just get cut easily and barely play a role in the main plot, stuff like that could be cut/replaced with something new that may help with character building for characters). If Chronicles is adding lore that makes Saga relevant I do see Saga being revived as either remasters or remakes only due to the fact there will likely be too many players who've only played Chronicles and never touched Saga and if said Saga relevant stuff is important for future Chronicles/other future Xeno IPs they'll probably need to make the games available sooner or later for that reason alone (kinda like how Falcom finally gave us the Crossbell games as it was becoming clear by Reverie (and honestly they should've been out before CS3) the games needed to be released in the west as far too many important plot points for the series was tied to those 2 games).

I just want an epilogue showing the casts of the three games, is that too much to ask?

About the 6 Xenosaga games you are technically right, but not fully. Xenosaga 1-3 were originally gonna be "Xenosaga 1" even Xenosaga 2 isnt fully what Takahashi had in mind due to development issues. Orifinally Xenosaga was gonna be an antholigy series with the only characters to carry over being KOS-MOS and chaos. The story was a bit too much for 1 game and eventually got split into the 3 we got, amd not the 2-3 you are thinking of. If Takahashi vission did come true who knows howany games Xenosaga would have need, could have been as little as 6-9 or even as high as 18 if not more.

Keep in mind, Xenosaga Episode 3 is not a Tetsuya Takahashi game. I'm not sure how much weight I'd put into the belief that something is referencing that game rather than one of the games that Tetsuya Takahashi actually did direct.

I hope they remake xenosaga. It’s just so good. KOS-MOS and Shion both deserve their time in the light.

And here I was hoping for the Xenoblade Chronicles X remaster/remake or sequel. If they FINALLY pull the trigger on the Xenosaga remasters or even a Sequel/reimagining of the originals…even better! XCX had such a wild amount of cut content and unused/stapled-on concepts (see: that random boss fight with those two weird mechs with unique unlockable weapons), it could definitely benefit from a remaster (or full-on remake) that adds it all back in or gives a definitive path forward for X into X2 or even a full-on crossover with the baseline Xenoblade/Saga/Gears series

Xenoblade Saga

Xenosaga.... needs alot of work. I'd much rather see a deal made with weakened Square for Xenogears. But I expect him to go forwards. Not backwards.

Combat i dont think has to play like xenoblade but they definitely should make it engaging, maybe take inspiration from the break system of octopath traveler or the one more system from persona.

That's definitely not Mira in fact i think the game implies its both one and two's world Interlinking truly into one world and not the endless now which we know is not truly one world and it's also said that before the two worlds were separate they were one before which was klaus world and was implied to be Lost Jerusalem edit also sorry if i didn't word that correctly i hope i got my point across anyway have a great day and cheers to a new year

Xenosaga reamster in the title at videorelease. Amazing.(Yes, I started writing the comment right away, but I couldn't finish until much later. Personal things getting in the way.) Also, I recently realized that this series is pain, lol. It sorta eluded me for months because I am still focussing hard on blade, but that silly Xenosaga II bonus DVD is kinda the bane of my existance. I will have to get both versions(US and EU) to accurately document them(Because the majority of their coverage is pretty mid because nobody cares about an incomplete cutscene-compilation of EP1 that appearently never even came out in japan) and as far as I can see, people do not even sell the EU version seperately, only boundled with Xenosaga 2. Also yes, this is infact relevant to me because the EU version is presumably the only source of EP I localizations for the EU-languages, even if I heard the german subs at least being atrocious. I cannot order them right now because of money concerns and I just pray they will still be available at sane prices in half a year to a full year, they are pretty rare on the market afterall) 8:20 Which is infact a proper "Xeno multiverse lore connection"-moment because that is infact the backstory of Xenogears with it ending with a new planet being populated by humans. Of course, this is unlikely to literally be the same universe as other games because this involves a majorly diffrent situration. Heck, it's even more scuffed if we assume Xenosaga to be in the same world as other games because that just doesn't work out at all. Yeah, I stick to multiverse, same with X and possibly Saga. 8:47 Never heard of that one. I heard people theorize that it is the X characters showing up after their series ended(and they found out why they aren't all ded. We really need those sequels). The most major thing against this being Kos-mos is just a pile of confusion and unclarified things. -If Xenosaga is in the same universe: Kos-mos Re: and T-elos Re: predate Kos-mos? Yeah, something is majorly sketchy about this, that's why I'm not particularly a sagablade-believer. -If Xenosaga is in a diffrent universe in the same multiverse: This is less immedietly running against a wall, we can just say Kos-mos while drifting through space went through some sort of anomaly and arrived at the Xenoblade earth years before the experiment happened, everything's cool beans timeline wise because we already assume time/space travel. But then we have a diffrent issue. If the original Kos-mos crashed millenia ago, she cannot be that light, unless we go full "Into the Xenoverse" with it. -If Xenosaga does not exist and we instead have an alternate version of events in blade with none of these troubles and we should forget about what we know from Saga: Why are the cores of the Trinity processor shaped like the nonexistant Zohar rather than the actually existing Conduit? What was the purpose of the Hilbert effect?(which we know exists because Kos-mos Re: can use it as a special) To fight fogbeasts? Were there fogbeasts in the original world before the experiment? Was the Ontos-core always designed to be a foggy thing instead of later turning like that? Was Alvis using a Foggers-emote on Discord? And yes, story references in this series usually do mean something. Heck, remember the silly land of challenge-DLC in 2 that people didn't take seriously at first? Well, we still don't know if it is canon, but I noticed something while playing. *In reference to Shulk and Fiora getting unlocked for maingame, the archsage specifically explains that their actual bodies cannot enter Alrest and vaguely hints at a doomsday scenario*. Come Xenoblade 3, indeed, it is revealed that if they entered Alrest, the result is that they would have been erased instantly and they would have put a nasty hole into the world that surely would have inconvinienced its inhabitants. 9:07 Yeah, it means nothing because the spelling is the same in japanese. Both localization teams just spelled it diffrently. The official japanese romanization also used the "Dimitri"-variant, so...yeah.

I'd rather get a xenogears remake but a xenosaga remaster would be awesome

We already have part 5. Xenogears.

Great video but for the blue light KOS-MOS section there’s better evidence in Xenosaga III itself when you clear the game. If you check KOS-MOS’s database entry, it pretty much confirms that blue light is her new awakening. Takahashi loves to leave hints like this. The Japanese version of Small Two of pieces (Xenogears ending theme) contained the entire plot of Xenoblade 3 word by word and is called Moebius. So this isn’t speculation at this point.

I want my KOS-MOS back!

Hear me out. Xenoblade Chronicles 4: A Saga Reborn. It would make for a great title merging the two story lines.

I'm honestly scared of the future of the xeno series.

Personally i think a reboot would be better than a remaster, would give a chance for them to see their vision realized now that they struggled with in the past, or at least remake xs1 and xs2 those from what i have heard have aged the worst. Xs1 with its level design could use a good rework and xs2 i never played it but i havent heard nice things.

Honestly, if they are going to return to work in the Xenosaga series, a remake would be much more appropriate to catch a solid fanbase, because those games are very flawed (in both gameplay and story) by the standards of the xenoblade games. Its story isn't bad, in my opinion has much more potential than any Xenoblade's, but it's very unpolished and has a lot of content trimmed due to production constraints. I mean, as a business it's not very wise to force your clients to consume 3 severely dated products of at least 100 h in total in order to be able to experience your latest product. You are doing a game that basically its success depends on how well the 3 previous ones did in the audience, at the end of the day. If those 3 games do not succeed because they are that much flawed, it's highly unlikely that a 4th entry would be profitable, even if it's an amazing game. That's why I think this whole Xenosaga-comeback thing is very unlikely to happen, because they would need a remake to ensure the success of the new content (as a fan I'd be in ecstasy, tough). I think the next Xeno-entry will have references to Xenosaga and it's very likely to be more or less connected to it, but will always be its own thing without depending on that original trilogy.

Xenoblade Saga being sorta like Final Fantasy 7 Remake is exactly what I've been thinking and I'm glad someone finally put it into words 'cuz even I was struggling to, lul

But they generally dont want that the players need to play games before to understand whats going on (like in 2 and 3). In that way Xenosaga wouldnt make sense

If it's a remaster of the three games, I'm sorry to tell you, it won't work. The gameplay is way too rough for it to work. These game need a full remake. Also, it would be nice if they rework the story a bit. There are tons and tons of concepts they never introduced properly and that are only relegated to a data base (let's remember how something similar was recieved in FFXIII). And also, the first two games would benefit from a better story-gameplay balance.

How about we get both

Xenosaga 3 will be remastered but the other two aged poorly that it needs a remake

Dont get my hopes up but why a xenosaga 4? It was so concluded in 3.

Alll of this is the purest form of speculative and can be easily explained as monolith studios simply paying homage to their previous works. now here's the very simply simple reason why they ARE NOT making a xenosaga game, monolith does not own the IP Namco does, now let me ask you which is simplier and cheapest to do: 1.- ask the studio that owns the IP you previously created, going through mountains of legal negotiations just to gain an IP that while it has a cult following it's been proven to have sold poorly essentially taking a gamble AND on top of all that you'd had to share profit with the actual owner of the IP making the gamble even riskier or 2.- continue to expand on the new IP you have total control of and that you don't have to share profits with another studio and have been comercial successes with one of them (XC2) being for the longest time your best selling game of all time only to be out staged by the new one (XC3) and cherry on top even got multiple awards and nominations. I mean you don't need to be a genius to see what is the best course of action here, and it would seem that people are missing the whole point of the xeno series, each franchise has ben destroyed and remade anew, perfecting it, funny enough not by design but was forced to evolved because the publishers kept the franchise every time, Xenoblade is the result from that evolution so, from a logical and even finantial point it makes much more sense to create a brand new xeno franchise rather that de-evolve and go back to the past.

I love Xenosaga Episode 1, but a remaster of the whole trilogy seems unlikely given the incoherence and stripped down feel of Episodes 2 and 3. Bad art changes, missing cutscenes (replaced with bland expeditionary dialogue between 2-3 characters), missing game features, inconsistent tones, broken plot, abrupt character personality changes, and choppy exposition riddled with contrivances. Abel's story was the worst, a contrived bastardization of the Xenogears backstory. Episodes 2 and 3 are far from Tetsuya Takahashi's best work.

I’m sorry, but if they don’t SERIOUSLY update the battle system and put in some Quality of Life changes then I’m not touching a “Xenosaga” remaster.

Xenosaga remasters? Probably Xenosaga 4? That's probably not happening, FR was all about moving foward from Takahashi's past works while keeping the good stuff about it (not getting completely rid of the past), returning to Xenosaga would be returning to the past. I think that the Saga references only hint that the next Xenoblade Saga will be a retelling of Xenosaga and its unfinished ideas, just like Blade 1-3 are a retelling of Gears with original stuff It is possible that we might see Dmitri for example being a relevant character, but not the same one from Saga or maybe even KOS-MOS (i mean she appeared in Blade 2 as a cameo) but i don't think it will be as Saga 4 but rather something like when JoJo part 7-9 make callbacks to JoJo part 1-6 universe using characters that look the same as the old universe ones (like Rohan) or just creating whole new characters with the names of past ones or that are callbacks to them.

Yoo gears remake when????

telos and chaos seem really off in that tales of crossover…

I hope if the remake becomes real, then there are a lot of hot guys 🙈

I love Xenosaga but I doubt there will be anymore. The game didn’t sell well. I don’t know anyone other than myself that has completed XS 3. Another issue might be publishers. Didn’t square publish 1, and Namco 2 and 3? Could be wrong about that one though

“Xenogears will mix in with xenosaga and will clone with xenoblade because of a radio.” 😂

No the next game is *Xenoblaga* 4.

I would LOVE to get xenosaga remakes. But I would rather they keep that series out of xenoblade if they don’t plan on reforging the story to fit into the xenoblade narrative. If 4 or whatever its called ties into both xenoblade and saga without even giving us remakes or ports I’d be really disappointed. Personally I think a new trilogy taking aspects of xenosaga and telling their own story would be the best way to go

because yes of course Nintendo will accept to share their revenue on their biggest RPG licence with Bandai Namco instead of forcing Takahashi to make a completely new Xeno game or a sequel to Xenoblade X with only a few ester eggs to Xenosaga like he did in the past so Nintendo can keep 100% of the revenue... 🙃 In a more serious tone: AAA games decisions are made purely on corporate standpoint and Xenoblade is no exception: It's Hitoshi Yamagami from Nintendo that forced Tetsuya Takahashi to simplify his vision because they were afraid that a story too complex would lead to a third failure. So yes Nintendo (that own 80% of MonolithSoft) decision on Xenoblade are bigger that Takahashi's and I don't see Nintendo reviving a dead license they don't own for more than just easter eggs just to makes a few fans (not all xenoblade fans played xenosaga) or Takahashi happy... Nintendo bought MonolithSoft to makes money not friends...

My God dude, just call it XenoSaga Chronicles. This whole Xenoblade Saga thing that you keep saying just sounds cringe AF, and the number of times I've heard you repeat it is grating.

Shame to hear you're a Mira denier, smh

You don't understand I need to see Shion in 4k she is literally a gay icon

Xenosaga 4 isn't happening. Takahashi is too busy with Xenoblade. Developing Saga without him is not a good idea.