In 1999 I was invited to Tracey's place. My friends Tina and Stefan from the Maxwell Restaurant in Berlin made the contact. Tracey ate Lychees, and I rolled the cameras.
"and I promised my self I would never make art again until I could justify it parallel alongside with my life"...that is so profound and it has helped me.
@sleepcity also, what is you fascination with traditional art? are you afraid of taboos being introduce? or do you like conservative and 'safe' art? and are you an artist yourself? do you paint/draw? can you paint/draw? are you a dreamer? do you dream of interesting concepts and ideas?
All of you are claiming that she lacks talent and that her art is unworthy of being called art. If you actually pay attention to the meanings behind her artworks you'll see that there is a lot more to it than meets the eye. In her art she explores her experiences and feelings, and does not create artwork merely to disturb her viewers. And if you want to talk about "stupidity" and declare that she is uneducated, take a look at your own grammar and spelling. Most of you lack basic punctuation.
they do say the most creative thing you can do is make another human life ....and if they get to adulthood without being thrown out of the window then you're a sucess
@bordereye some extremely interesting points here. However when regarding her art from a retrospective point of view, i personally believe her work very much correlates to modern society, in terms of the empowerment of women, along with their exploitation through the media and the cult of the celeb. secondly her works truely focus on her and her inner thoughts, tracey shop etc, which reflect greatly with society's changing perception of how others view you, owed very greatly to reality telly etc
@sleepcity i'm pretty sure the implications of your reply wasn't a joke. if it was you should have indicated it, youtube isn't very good at emoting. they are different styles, and some people prefer others. there isn't a universal definition for what an artist should be labeled.
@raspyshiit 2) Also, art must pass the test of time. A genuine piece of art should be able to speak to men of future generations as well as those who lived when it was produced. Will Tracey Emin's works be regarded as relevant in two or three hundreds years? Honestly, I'm not sure they will.
@raspyshiit 1) Regarding Tracey Emin, I wouldn't say she thinks like a creative genius. What she says sound quite obvious to me. Genius is a word to be used very sparingly and very carefully. So, what's (good) art? First, I think art is not entirely subjective. It must be the result of an honest effort to understand, describe and translate reality, human feeling, events and beliefs using any suitable means. Creative power is essential but must be supported by a degree of technical awareness.
@sleepcity i strongly recommend, then we can talk about this shit. and as for rap/poetry you don't really need to introduce me to new things as i'm familiar with whitman's work, they are both talented in different ways. i've been allowing myself to appreciate or at least understand different styles and fusions of all genres, maybe you should too? it would help with your over cynical mindset.
She seems creative and fun but man, she's a lightening rod. In the USA she seems like an interesting artist, since we don't have silly press like the Brits we don't hate her here. Reject Media bias form your own opinion. She's making money with her art ?!?! Good for Tracey!
p.s "Your reading comprehension is also lacking" whereas it is you who initially started this by saying a musician who is not an artist is not a musician but a player of music? i was merely saying i wasn't an artist as in someone who paints or draws. well done
nothing about emin is profound, people say "well she evokes beautiful ideas" but anyone in any perfection can have a beautiful idea......Roger Scruton tears her praisers apart here, for instance, a lawyer, a doctor, or a teacher can have a beautiful idea but they'd never try to pass it off as aesthetics or art. We should call Tracey Emin an amateur idea maker.
i hate this new genre of art completely.... but when i try to come up with an intelectual arguement against it i can see why it is so appealing, to see a greater sense of life through mundane things and to be able to express yourself through subtleties. i will confess i'm a musician rather than an artist but i personally don't like this art over the old styles. and i am sorry if i have offended anyone with that, but as you must all understand, this is my self expression.
@stevesg92 She's a disturbed woman in a disturbed world. Please visit ebay.co.uk and have a look at how much people is bidding for this: Tracey Emin, original, signed canvas - Stars on Canvas. Six days left! Well, at least it's all for charity...
@sleepcity well there's no point in debating a very subjective topic, if you don't even adknowledge my opinions. i'm not into jay-z's music, yes he has good poetic skills, but his music is shit, and it seems as though he doesn't even try. have you ever heard his 80s mixtapes from back in the day?
@murdersherote13 ridiculous, genocide causes disgust, human vomit provokes disgust, immorality provokes disgust, why is this form of disgust regarded as art? There's a reason the music of Bach and Handel is known for evoking deep emotions among entire auditoriums bringing grown men to tears and there's a reason why walking into the Cistene Chapel or seeing the David by Davinci takes your breath away. Tracey Emin's work could not be differentiated by a child as art, it's just an unmade bed.
okay trying to convince people with your opinions isn't going to work... art IS a subjective topic.. so what if you shit on your car someone might call it art. some people get lucky, some don't.
@stevesg92 Conceptual art it's all the rage nowadays and art critics do their best to promote it. You know, it's just cool and fashionable to ignore anything else. I've visited most art universities websites and some of their students art exhibitions. A good 95% of what they produce is conceptual. And very bad conceptual, no ideas, absolutely nothing to say.
@raspyshiit Oh man, thank you for the laugh. I love that you took my joke seriously and are now trying to convince me that Jay-Z, like Emin, is also deserving of that much debased title, "artist." Bernini isn't better than Emin, you say, just "different". Whitman isn't better than Jay-Z, you say, just "different." Do you not realize the implications of your relativism? If everyone is an artist then no one is. If everything is art then nothing is. Same for music. Do you understand this point?
Same old story. Women must sacrifice art (or life itself) to reproduction, to the species, but men can have it all. What male artist has ever suffered these painful convolutions? But no, it's not about biololgy or its imperatives, its about social arrangements which can and must change.
@stevesg92 Well, you've got to convince Charles Saatchi (or some parvenu hedge-fund manager from New Jersey or some oil billionaire from a poor country with zero education) that it's brilliant, then you can sell it for millions and congratulate yourself on being a modern-day Michelangelo.
The highest human endeavour is to make one's life a work of art. She does the opposite. She tries to make works of "art" out of her fragmented, meaningless and sorry personal life.
I recently watched a resplendent Modern Art documentary and Tracey Emin was interviewed in it. I have never been so uninterested and bored to death by someone. She had the audacity to go to Norway and speak about Munch's 'The Scream'. It was annoying to listen to someone so talentless speak about an artist so wonderful.
