Hidden Movement Masterpiece - Mind MGMT Review 

Update! Until this review was published we had no idea that we were sent the Deluxe version of this game. In fact, we didn't even know multiple versions were available- when given the choice, it's site policy to ask publishers to send us the basic retail version of the game. Apologies for presenting the Deluxe version as the base game. Also, as everyone has pointed out, it turns out the Recruiter *can* move into spaces with Rogue Agents, so perhaps it's a little trickier to learn this game than we thought. It's worth stating that even though Quinns was playing with an incorrect rule, him and his friends still had a blast, so the game is - in addition to being fun - pretty sturdy!

After that intro my video glitched right after Quinns said “a game of psychic warfare”. I sat there with a blank screen and no audio for like 10 seconds thinking to myself “boy they’re really running with this joke”. Then I realized my RU-vid was actually just messing with me.

Worth pointing out that you have the deluxe edition there, which is significantly better looking than its $50 retail counterpart. I have the retail edition and it’s genuinely a bit less likeable because of the production differences

As a huge fan of the comic, I can say that it would simply be disrespectful for this game to be anything less than equal parts gorgeous water color artwork and profoundly disorienting logic puzzles that never seem fair, but are in fact, always perfectly constructed.

I actually bought this based on the podcast y'all did but one glaring rule mistake is the Recruiter CAN move through the Rogue Agents space. Unless a SHIFT packet changes that.

The “but wait” sequence is pure SU&SD gold 😂

"You played yourself Quinns" (twice in one episode.) The SU&SD lore continues, and I'm here for it.

I love that even the skits in this review are respectful of the source material.

To be honest, if I'm in the right crowd, then learning a new game is actually the funnest part. It's like listening to new music, "oh wow, I never knew you could do that with drums/dice" etc. (I happily admit: I've only experienced that at board game clubs/conventions, but it's super amazing having that sort of experience, where figuring out the game is a feature rather than a negative.) So I think there's room for some games like that. Screw bad manuals though.

“As obtuse as a bag of elbows” 😂😂

I don’t think I’ve ever been more confused while watching an SU&SD video, but it’s just making me want to try this game even more

Rules Clarification: The recruiter CAN move to spaces currently occupied by the agents.

That ending is strictly perfect.

I didnt realize that how english people say lasso. Wow what a video

*_I highly recommend the graphic novels this BG is based off. I also recommend when you read it, you read every word printed. All around the pages. Everything. And when you think you are done; there is more to read_*

Quinn's enthusiaism is really infectious! Tempted me to check out the comics as well lol.

This is amazing 😂 Thanks so much for this review!

I got so, so deep into MGMT before the pandemic started, glad to see it translated well into boardgame form. Anyone who hasn't read it, should inmediately do so, for real.

The Recruiter CAN move into a space with a Rogue Agent.

Been waiting for this video for a while since your podcast recommendation got us to scoop this up!

Thanks for the great review. I love that you were able to get everyone in the review.

Just got my deluxe copy from reopened Kickstarter thanks to this review!

We love this game! We haven't worked our way through all the shift systems yet, but I can't wait to see them all. Great review!

Saw MGMT and just immediately went to "My Little Dark Age" and such songs.... would never have realized it was management

It would be great to have a pair of SUSD plays videos... one camera from the view of the agents, one from the view of the recruiter (including the hidden board).

1:40 omg that brought me back! That is the theme of "the pharaohs tomb" a super old flash game i played as a kid

An oscar nomination for the start of this video good sir. Had me in stitches.

I don’t even play board games very often but always come back to this channel bc of quinn’s comedy. So good

Best arrow sound FX ever

Loved the Scotland Yard board game growing up. Don't have a hidden movement game in my collection. And the backerkit pre-order is open. Very much sold!!

Does anyone else wonder if Quinns plays this as recruiter WITH THE MIRROR RIGHT BEHIND HIM?

Best end to a review ever.

I agree that playing the full version of the game it can be allot to keep track of as far as rules and things to keep track of in order to play well. However I also think it should have been pointed out that there is a simpler version of the game used as a learning/teaching experience and it even has an app you can use to play that mode cooperatively with the AI playing the role of the Recruiter. Furthermore that simple version of the game on it's own is very fun, almost to the point where it would be worth owning/playing even without all the extra stuff you'd use in the "full" game. Add in the Shift system and you have an unheard of amount of scalability.

Loveing the fact we getting back to the traditional whacky and Zainee reviews of old pre covid times

This is so on my to get list. Looks like great fun!!

The thumbnail for this is really nice. I generally hate the "reaction face" bit with harsh outlines and exaggerated expression, but the soft fade into the darkness here works really well. Review was interesting too! Thanks for leading the way in being aesthetically pleasing!

Love Love Love the twist at the end!

wow this is great skit. Love the twist.

I bought the game based on this review, and I'm happy to say i really think they overestimate how difficult it is to learn this game.

Love that Tom's become a must have feature in every video

This looks like a very intriguing game. Not the type of mechanic I usually play but this would be fun to pull out one day

I'm convinced. Thank you, SUSD!

That intro literally made me spit my toothpaste out 😂🤤

*_HOW_* do you manage to get me interested in almost _every game_ you review!?! Do i have a crazy wide range of interests or are you guys just the best? Am *_I_* just the best and you a crazy wide range? WHO KNOWS?!?!?!

Just got this game a few days ago and me and my partner have been having a blast. I think it's quite a bit more difficult being the rogue agents (or 'hunters') in the basic game, but yet to try the shift packs

Somewhere in my heart I was expecting a Paul cameo at the end, influencing you all from Canada

Kickstarter has the deluxe version right now, about 9 days left

I get that a review can’t cover everything, but surprised Quinn’s didn’t mention the player count scaling being so good for this one - really makes it stand apart.

Someone needs to make a song out of Quinn’s percussive noises asap

Bonkers! Like Clue(do) and Stratego had a baby in a Jason Bourne movie!

Sooo we get all excited about the game for it just to be sold out on their website saying they will not be making anymore of the Deluxe Edition...that is quite lame..

The hidden movement reminds me of the game "Scotland Yard"

I am glad I already bought this last week, since it's soon going to be sold out now!

I’ve been put off by hidden movement games after a miserable experience with Fury of Dracula, where the hunters didn’t catch Dracula’s trail until it was too late to do anything about it. As you mentioned, the games can be swingy in that sense. This is why I’m really looking forward to Beast, as it forces the player in hiding to reveal their location from time to time if they want to reach their win condition.

The comic book series is fantastic. Very keen to take a look at this one.

Deluxe version in stock at Matagot now

So excited for a new Quinns episode

This is a thoroughly entertaining review Quinns! congrats! I cannot wait until my copy arrives in...Sep-tember?? (sigh)

The shift system seems awesome!

I actually liked the manual for this, BUT I agree the visual design while FANTASTIC is also tougher to learn the game. Some of the deluxe pieces actually make it tougher - such as identifying the specific rogue agents are easier with the normal game (that said, love my deluxe copy). We need someone to do a good how to play video for this one which should help clear things up for those just getting started.

12:28 Hmm we haven't seen Tom standing somewhere ominously in a while...

You guys are just simply awesome!

"Get Out of Your Mind into Tom's Mind" .... brilliant

LOL - this looks like a game that would make me feel stupid but review is 'effing' hilarious!

The altered "Shift System" voice cracked me up.

Hey guys! I've only recently found you as I'm trying to find more board games that are easy to learn and play but have some sort of complexity to them and have to say I'm loving your videos! On that note though, I want to give you guys a recommendation of a game to review and hopefully get more people to pay attention to because it's absolutely amazing (unless you have already reviewed it and I just haven't found the video yet). The game is Moonrakers and I honestly think it's one of the best games ever. It's one of those games that I just always find fun no matter who I'm playing with and not to mention that every single design detail is out of this world. Even some small rule details that could potentially derail a session are easily fixed with some house rules and I think it's just flawless and would love to see what you guys think about it as well as the game getting as much recognition as possible. By the way I have nothing to do with the creation of the game or anything like that, I just really really love it.

That might have been the best review since Catacombs.

worth noting this is based on an absolutely fantastic graphic novel series of the same name. I worked at a comic shop, and it was one of my favorite things we sold.

Such a great video! I had the honor to get this game to make a overview as well and I absolutely love this game! So many secrets and so many cool changes! 😎 If you enjoy hidden movement games, check this out!

The ending was so good 😂😂😂

Great video, and it seems a very interesting game! I am intrigued...

SU&SD having a lot of fun with people being together again

Great game, excellent casting, terrific video!

Isn‘t what you are showing the Deluxe version of the game that sells for significantly more than 50£? Worth mentioning when you praise the visuals.

I freaking missed you Quinns

This is a 5-star review due to the Pepe Silvia reference

...aaand it's already out of stock from the publisher. Not available on Amazon and being scalped on eBay for $300. :(

I want to see a review of the puller-upper exercise device (for want of a better term) that's hooked up to the doorframe where Tom was standing.

This review make my day 😁 thanks ...

Mind Control Delete is the expansion to Super Hot

"whatever this is" that's the sound of a mismanaged mind.

So wait... The Rogue Agent ISN'T the one with hidden movement? Tricky vocabulary on top of the tricky visuals.

Tell me what to choose between Mind MGMT and Beast. You need to choose only one of them, which is more interesting in mechanics? What are their differences , from a mechanical point of view . Thanks !

This looks like the best game based on a comics IP I've seen, not only does it look great (if you're familiar with Matt Kindt's work) but the whole game concept, mechanics and theme completely fits with the IP it's based on, rather than seeming like a half arsed cash grab like IP oriented games often can be.

Now if only this was for sale somewhere.

This is really unusual game! Thank you for this video :)

16:18 - I paused the video to check my phone and was left confused for a good minute

I'm still yet to discover a full 4 player hidden movement game, where everyone is a player that uses heavy movement. I'm not sure how this system might be implemented but looking at this game I believe this might be possible...one day? Great review by the way

Nice to see your rocking the Ned Flanders look.

You guys previously reviewed Whitehall mystery. Just wondering how you would compare the two games?

brilliantly done ♥

I'm so looking forward to you guys comparing this to Beast. I sure hope you will...

I instantly purchased Tom's mug.

@Shut Up & Sit Down what do you think about blood rage board game ?

This reminds me of 'Scotland Yard' where you have to chase 'MR X' while 'MR X' records his movements behind a screen. But it has way too many additional rules, probably over-compensating for how close the main concept is to 'Scotland Yard'.

I had been thinking about getting fury of Dracula once but didn't because of the usual problems hidden movement games have. Losing track as an investigator, or screwing sth up as either player for example. Is this one doing better in that regard? I feel like if anything this game makes matters worse isn't it?

For an Hidden&Movement innovative board game I suggest Diabolik - Heist and Investigations by Ares Games. You play in team (2 criminals vs 2 policeman), variable goals, heist phase, and others featurs...

Why must you excite me so with games that I cannot find anywhere to purchase 😢

Oh yes, this is great and I strongly recommend the Comic series.

"Willfully Repellent" Yeah... that's perfect. The game's art is perfect - and how could it not be thanks to Kindt?... and horrifically obtuse. It's 6 out of 5 stars on the former parameter and 0 out of 5 on the latter. And I don't think there is much to be done about it. Improve the interface from player to game... and lose the thematic home-run. It's both frustrating and glorious.