Highlight: Should Christians Practice Martial Arts? 

Praying for you that it goes well! God bless!

God bless you man

But don't forget 1 Timothy 4:8 "For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come."

​@@AKhinchAMEN!!!🙏🏼❤️👑

That scripture is great, it seems to emphasize that spiritual training should be prioritized being the more important aspect I am currently going through some rough times, and I see myself as a type of Christian soldier or warrior and I believe in training my body in service of my wits, training my wits in service of my spirit and training my spirit in service of my LORD, and I workout hard and work long hours driving for Amazon(which I like) and my training has helped discipline myself so that I can also pray and study scripture more which I love

@@sy8607 You're absolutely right we should put God first and give Him more of our time! GOD BLESS YOU AMEN!!!🙏❤👑

@@AKhinchamen

That's awesome sir!

Have you heard Eric Wilson’s testimony

@@JJ-pl5cj Can I find Eric Wilson on RU-vid?

Question: have you read the Bible?

@@SupremeVerdict are you saying the Bible commands Christians to not protect their families?

@@ReformedRabbit what I'm asking* is: Have you read the Bible?

@@SupremeVerdict yeah , so your comment has nothing to do with a Christians right to self-defense or the protection of ones family?

@@ReformedRabbit oh I think all people should defend themselves. Why wouldn't I? In fact, I think people shouldn't be prevented from protecting themselves just because a book told them not to (not saying the Bible is saying that, I'm saying in general).

Thats not from the Bible. Matthew 5:5 "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth."

That's not what Jesus meant

@andrewhawkins8616 Thank you so much for your testimony!! Like WoW!! I need to share your testimony with other people, as you went through so much! … I’m still struggling to understand whether it’s still ok to do defensive and offensive martial arts or not. I would greatly value your opinion… Also, your involvement was huge, and I believe it would be a great idea if you could share your story online… Please let me know if you’d consider doing that, as I’d love to hear it, and be able to share it… God bless you brother 🙏

Could you have just accepted that you could be a gifted individual with great talents? And you throw that away for religion because of a horrific experience?

​@@rebelmnk2382religion? I'm sorry but nothing is worth losing a relationship with Jesus.

Absolutely

Martial arts has nothing to do with magic tho?

Muy Thai is a deeply Spiritual practice and I do question whether it’s appropriate based on the ritual of its practice.

​@@TyMcLeodsaaaaaame

I even question judo. Aren’t all Asian martial arts rooted or influenced by a religion like Buddhism or Shintoism?

@@aidannguyen2423 Honestly probably. Folklore and mysticism are huge in Asia.

​@@TyMcLeodMost Americans don't do Muay Thai for spiritual practice. It's a combat sport.

Ha ha ha! Master Ken is the best!

You’ve rebuked the sin, repented, and now glorify Christ. That is all God asks from us. Being a new creation doesn’t mean you have to literally forget your past but rather use it for your witness moving forward. Based on your post you seem just fine but pray on it, search the scriptures and bring everything to God if your spirit isn’t settled.

@@sharplikecheddar2 Thank you for the response! Bless you

This is actually what I’m thinking also. This seems very much the same to me, and I can’t help but wonder if the effort to defend it, even certain forms, is because they are so intertwined in practicing it themselves.

@The Gospel in the Garden I agree like Jeff said there are some arts that are too intertwined with Hinduism,voodoo etc that they can’t be separate

I guess with yoga I know you are making the actusl moves to worship the God's the whole thing g is to worship God's. Maybe the difference with this is the moves don't do that? Except the chi one they were saying was about energy. But maybe if you do it without the meditation and all that. 🤔 I am curious more about it though.

You can literally just do the movements for different purposes. All things have been changed. Christmas was inspired by a pagan holiday. If I do tai chi for the art, not the spirituality it's a different purpose. If I do martial arts for the sport, it's a different purpose. Yoga is just rest and recovery exercises for me, as someone who learned a bit of Kinesiology

Soo....I'm trying to decipher if you are pro MMA for the Christian or against by your response...

@@GabrielofAdonai You know the answer you're going to get, asking Jeff Durbin about martial arts. I have no issue with a man training in hand to hand combat to protect his family/community/country, and competing in olympic style martial arts, where the goal is to score points through superior technique. I think a Christian who actively participated in popular MMA, where the goal is to batter, punish and damage your opponent until they lose consciousness, would be disqualified from church leadership by 1Timothy 3:3.

@@brettschlee7090 that's a good view of things...I personally dont like how all the Easter arts stem from Buddhism. Most dojos have Buddha or some other false god or teacher enshrined.

​@@GabrielofAdonaiBudda isn't an idol. Buddhism is just a philosophy.

Our calendars today are of pagan origin are of pagan origin.

@@lightningsamurai4134 True. But what are you suggesting???

​@@parkerbarefoot4255 That Yoga, Tai Chi, Capoeira and all that aren't bad, it's how you practice and intent

I said the same thing when I used to do yoga but it doesn’t work like that

@@JJ-pl5cj Oh yes, it’s for real! Every single yoga pose is an act of worship to a Hindu god… It’s a case of the East has seduced the West, and wow has it been seduced!! I’ve watched many testimonies of those who got into yoga, and the end result wasn’t good. Fortunately the ones I read about or saw, were rescued by Christ. Some go insane, especially if they move onto transcendental meditation. I read a book years ago called ‘The death of a Guru’ and it was an eye opener! If you have any interest in finding out about what happens within Hinduism spiritually, this is an amazing book to read! God bless

​@@JJ-pl5cjGlad you realized that. It's very real and if it's originated in paganism you CANNOT separate it and it's really dangerous to try to white wash it especially as a Christian.

Many things invented by Man are not “Christian” but we use them. e.g. Was boxing invented by priests?

​@@JJ-pl5cjIt does work like that

depends if your sports kendo has meditation and rituals.

Yes but I’m not sure competing glorifies God but yes training and technical sparring in order to learn the craft of boxing and kickboxing is good

I shake my head at that 🤷‍♀️

Its definitely very tricky in my opinion but yes! If someone is literally threatening the lives that were made in God's image you literally have a God given right to defend that life 🙏. If you make a mistake you talk to God about it later 💯. In my opinion if you know they are just trying to intimate you and are not really gonna do anything I think God will give you the discernment to figure out if this person is a real threat that you have to take care of or if its someone that just wants to scare you with their intent.

You against or for martial arts training? If against, then is working out bad?

My man if your talking about Leviticus 19 you better also read 19:27 and never cut your beard or hair. I think there are good arguments against tattoos in the Bible but you can't use the mosaic law for that. God bless

@@TJ-gp6ut you think God digs tattoos? Scripture is profitable for instruction in righteousness. The law points us to God’s perfect standard. I don’t think tattoos scream “born again”. There are things that nature tells us (I.e. long hair on men is a shame).

@@TJ-gp6ut it’s not about keeping the law; it’s about not causing the brethren to stumble.

​​​@@reykaisertvThat's not nature that's a societal standard that was made up. That's nurture. Tell Samson that long hair is a shame. How is long hair on a man, a shame? Because abunch of conservatives said so? As TJ said, should you never cut your beard then?

I allow my kids to watch as well. I'm a huge fan of UFC and Bellator. I think it's important to consider that this is a voluntary engagement between consenting adults. I feel as though combat sports being as popular as they were in ancient Greece, likely would have been condemned by Paul, if they were indeed sinful to partake in. However, that is speculation on my part.

@@caseyfenton90 I’ve read a good deal about Ancient Greco-Roman fighting. Those were often under political and slave like conditions to quench societies thirst for violence and entertainment, especially when it was Christians vs animals. I would concede that MMA in our culture could be a Segway to more violence and/or conditioning. Again my justification is I’m more concerned with the feminization of men and the assaults on my daughters that I see it as a counter balance and hope it will encourage them to do BJJ and such as a safety precaution. I know that in doing so it brings the respect, restraint, confidence, etc to their life but I’m willing to be convinced either way. In any event I appreciate your response. Good to know there are other like minded Christians.

Would Jesus have gone to the collusem and enjoyed watching the sport of fighting? Of murder? Of senseless beating of one another? It's beating and bruising the temple of God isn't it? Personally speaking it encourages violence and carnality. I don't think it could be justified any other way than appeasing to the flesh. The Spirit is loving one another, never laying a hand on another, and yes, though it's voluntary, it is worldly entertainment that also promotes anger, gambling, drinking, vanity and seeking pleasure from the world and not Word as two men try to kill one another. Psalm 119 37Turn away my eyes from looking at worthless things, And revive me in Your way. Isaiah 33 15He who walks righteously and speaks uprightly, He who despises the gain of oppressions, Who gestures with his hands, refusing bribes, Who stops his ears from hearing of bloodshed, And shuts his eyes from seeing evil: 16He will dwell on high; His place of defense will be the fortress of rocks; Bread will be given him, His water will be sure. Christians are supposed to turn away from the world, to stand out from the world, not conform to its patterns of pride and violence. Would Christ sit with you and cheer on with you as you watch men beat themselves? I get sucked in and watch it at times but I know it's my flesh that enjoys it and the Spirit it grieves. You can teach your boys to defend themselves, to be strong. But as a Christian I would never encourage that through UFC or MMA. Train them yourself. There is better ways to teach them of the reality of the world. Perhaps a false equivalency but to teach them about sex/the reality of the world would you want them watching porn?

@@DylanIsArchAngel I think you’ve raised a lot of good points but my biggest objection would be you’ve mischaracterized what MMA is. It is not senseless beatings of each other and anyone who has actually trained or even watched the sport long enough knows that. Martial Arts is a vehicle that unlocks great human qualities and potential. Things like discipline, health, humility, perseverance, etc. Not only does it build those positive attributes but it eliminates negative attributes like pride, ego, bullying, etc BJJ in particular is not about hurting your opponent which is why you adhere to a tap system that can be activated well before you’re in any physical danger. Even on the street, BJJ is often used as a non lethal, docile way to subdue an attacker (blood chokes for example). In secular terms, the people I’ve been around that practiced MMA are some of the very best I’ve known. Now none of this is to ever replace the gospel nor does a “moral secularist” have any leg up on a “immoral secularist” in the eyes of God but you get the idea. I do like the litmus test of if Jesus was here would he …. But that’s a hard one. I mean one could make an argument he wouldn’t engage and comment on social media but I get your point and probably agree he wouldn’t sit and cheer UFC. BJJ and wrestling? Who knows. Lastly, and this is my worldview coming in and perhaps not a great response, but I think back to all the warriors in scripture. Yes they were led by Gods hand but surely they put themselves in that position to be used. It’s likely, Samson for example, trained in combat. Now where are those strong men now? I look around and see weak men afraid to share anything but a watered down version of the gospel. I want to raise up men and woman, first and foremost spiritually strong, but also physically and mentally tough as well. To me MMA is that vehicle. I’m open to ideas but in the age of everyone gets a trophy and a safe space…. MMA, BJJ, wrestling seems to be my best solution for a well rounded, face adversity head on, fear not, attitude to raise my kids with. Gospel first always, face controversy head on second. That’s my home.

@@sharplikecheddar2 @sharplikecheddar2 thanks for the response! My main contention is with the organization of UFC itself where that itself promotes money, gambling etc. MMA as a practice is much like what you said; a great tool to build discipline, humility, strength and character. So I wouldn't have an issue with anyone learning it because as you say again, so many who do are good examples of well trained men in physicality and spiritual discipline. It's again a great way for men to control that rage and be better equipped to handle situations of self defence and non-lethal like you said. I agree again that we look around and see weak men; both in heart and flesh and MMA is a vechile to grow in for that. So glad to hear your views on the watered down gospel so many have succumbed to because of the fragile mentality this society has seemingly crafted and encouraged. I especially appreciate your final paragraph there and it's a joy to hear from a parent in Christ with such strong values; praise God and may He bless you and your family through Christ to abound in all spiritual blessings ❤ I hope this helps my personal opinion be understood clearer; the practice of MMA is different to watching the UFC and other organisations which through advertisement, social media and the characters they hire/emphasize promote the antichrist qualities mentioned earlier. It is good to be equipped to handle adversity in this life, to be strong and disciplined, I personally wouldn't watch or subscribe to UFC though for entertainment due to its culture.

You must have learned some bad Wing Chun. I got into a fight with a technician in the mental hospital and palm struck him in the jaw. A common Kung Fu technique and I believed I quote literally saved my own ass in that place bc of Wing Chun. I don't regret learning it.

They could touch the dead. They would have had to touch them to dispose of them. I can't remember what the specifics were for after touching the dead, but there were cleansing protocols for things like that. For example, if a man and wife had sex they were to wash themselves with water afterward and be unclean until morning.

Can you show me that levitical law plz?

as much as I want to keep practicing it, I want to make sure it's fine

Spiritual does not equal Christian.

​​@@scholasticbookfair. Actually sometimes it does. Romans 8:9 Ephesians 5:18 Wai Krus aren't always used for prayers. Sometimes it's to pay their respects & other stuff in general. It's not a spiritual thing. Yes, many Muay Thai practicers are Buddhist, but so are the majority of people who live in Thailand throughout history & now. Here's a video from a Muay Thai trainer teaching Wai Krus. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iS4xzlnxB1I.html

@@lightningsamurai4134 I'm sorry but maybe you misunderstood. I don't know how but I'm gonna double down. Spiritual doesn't equal Christian. There's more to the spiritual world that is extra biblical and totally non Christian. Just because something is spiritual doesn't mean a Christian should partake especially when the spirituality is rooted in idolatry and paganism.

​@@scholasticbookfair. If you want to boycott everything pagan then I recommend getting rid of these items or not participate in. 1. Calenders, because the original practical one was made in Egypt & the modern calendars that were developed by Rome & some of the months & weeks are named after pagan gods. 2. If you have a picture of your grandparents, be sure to take them down because pagans have used them for their rituals. 3. Don't participate in a single bonfire because pagans have used that for their rituals. 4. Don't use your ⌚, cellphones, check to check the time because pagans may have invented it. I'm sure that you don't want to take that risk. Do you?

Replying to a yr old comment. That has nothing to do with self defense. Romans 14:15 King James Version 15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died. Romans 14:23 King James Version 23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

I think demonic is used to mean lack of humanity, in a way martial arts is the physical expression of life

​@@uglyass9084Well then you'd be wrong in that definition. Demons are real and it's dangerous to think otherwise. Some things are meant to be taken literally not everything is philosophical 🤣

@@scholasticbookfair. I won't dispute about demons as I'm pretty dead spiritually currently so you may very well see way more than me, but honestly I was drawn to the video because participating in a martial art feels very sacrificial, like I'm willingly engaging a group of people who may have a demon in them(lack of humanity) I think we can come to an agreement that a demon would literally embody a lack of humanity. Please feel free to put me in my place if I am wrong again

I don't know any Karate students that do anything spiritual

I personally think she's right. Would Jesus have gone to the collusem and enjoyed watching the sport of fighting? Of murder? Of senseless beating of one another? It's beating and bruising the temple of God isn't it? Personally speaking it encourages violence and carnality. I don't think it could be justified any other way than appeasing to the flesh. The Spirit is loving one another, never laying a hand on another, and yes, though it's voluntary, it is worldly entertainment that also promotes anger, gambling, drinking and seeking pleasure from the world and not word as two men try to kill one another. Psalm 119 37Turn away my eyes from looking at worthless things, And revive me in Your way. Isaiah 33 15He who walks righteously and speaks uprightly, He who despises the gain of oppressions, Who gestures with his hands, refusing bribes, Who stops his ears from hearing of bloodshed, And shuts his eyes from seeing evil: 16He will dwell on high; His place of defense will be the fortress of rocks; Bread will be given him, His water will be sure. Christians are supposed to turn away from the world, to stand out from the world, not conform to its patterns of pride and violence. Would Christ sit with you and cheer on with you as you watch men beat themselves? I get sucked in and watch it at times but I know it's my flesh that enjoys it and the Spirit it grieves.

@@DylanIsArchAngel This was a good retort.

What about uchu riyu karate to fallow secrets meditation for power

I recommend kickboxing or BJJ, use kickboxing when defending those who are not as strong as you, use BJJ as self defence

if you want to practice arts with zero ties to eastern spirituality then practice boxing, hema, savate, or old school wrestling

Boxing, Wrestling, BJJ, Judo are all martial arts. And almost 100% of those are legit gyms

Animal spirits inspire them. Tiger, snake, crane. E.t.c.

Doing martial arts is fine. It's exercise and protection

He said to turn the cheek.

@@christsavesreadromans1096 That has nothing to do with learning martial arts. Is music demonic too?

@@anti1trainingSparring is sinful, Jesus said to turn the cheek.

@@christsavesreadromans1096 Oh you're just trolling lol

Wrestling, brazilian jiu jitsu, kickboxing, and MMA, generally have 0 religious connection. they have no spiritual connections or anything like that. they’re purely sports and martial arts.

@@Rkosin bjj is comes from jiu jitsu and judo of japan, kickboxing is a mixture of muay thai, karate, and boxing. Only boxing and wrestling are completely devoid of asian spiriutal connections.

The full episode is uploaded on the apologia channel. If i remember correctly the episode was titled something like “Cultish: Ninjitsu and Martial Arts”

@@ogloc6308 thank you!

I agree somewhat. But if your a father and someone is attacking your child your telling me your going to stand and watch. I think that self defence depends on various situations but I don’t think we should be like willing fight others like that.

Have you ever read the Bible? 😂