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Isn't using the water cooling icon false advertising when there is no water cooling? Check the store page and see if there is a claim of 'water cooling' for this PC.
I'd be curious what an $1800 newegg/ABS system would compare to this abomination. Obviously would be a better deal strictly from standardized name-brand parts.
That 5800 is gonna die. Due to my 5600x arriving with a dead core, I got a second hand 5800x instead but used the 5600 heat sink. The 5800 was not happy on it, and almost overheated. Is now running fine on a bigger cooler. So that tiny OEM cooler being smaller than the 5600x *stock* cooler is just asking for the CPU to thermal throttle. :(
"Dude, you're getting a Dell" has devolved from an early-2000s marketing slogan into an undisguised threat that parents use on their disobedient children.
It's more like a baffled reaction from a person to his friend. "Dude, you're getting a Dell! Why?!" It makes me so sad how soccer moms and grandmas buy these cheap ass computers for their preteens and they have no idea what they're doing.
When I was very young I always thought that Alienware PCs are the best you can get. In hindsight I was very lucky to have built back then my own PC instead of purchasing an overpriced Dell "gaming" one.
I know it's kinda of late, but since becoming a Dell warranty technician I can definitely tell you those instructions are for us to figure out how to take the piece of junk apart
@@stillnotchill2560 Nearly all replaceable parts are refurbished and Dell is cheap enough to force the customers to wait for refurbished parts to be available instead of providing new parts.
i had a nearly identical one come out of a pre-built lenovo from 2010, just a normal office PC i got because i had no money and it was really cheap it wasnt even adequate for that poor thing let alone a gaming rig
@@leedlefly Dell's are not, and never have been, worth the air they displace from the room they are in. Even when they bought alienware they didn't suddenly start making or selling anything worth existing, they only destroyed what *used to be* a good brand name.
@VaderxG This isn't blue because of intel. It's an AMD Ryzen build. The board just happens to be blue. Many PCBs are blue or green, they're coated other colors when they're visible just to look better.
say what you want about consoles, but at least you plug them in and they sort of work. it's sad that console manufacturers get away with shittier performance because they have no real competition in the non-tech savy world. imagine if dell used all their global reach and money to put out THE gaming prebuilt instead of crap ewaste.
@@enzito_sdf6978 wdym shittier performance? A PC with the same spec as a console will generally perform worse because consoles are more optimized hardware wise and software wise.
@@looncraz had an alienware aurora r4 from like 2011 and the airflow was complete dog even back then, same plastic on metal build but i was a kid so i didnt know better so im assuming thats the buyers theyre still praying on^ OH, and mine had cls that stopped working after like a year so i had to buy a new one...
LOL. And they require a 1000watt PSU. It's obvious why, because a PSU producing any more heat would cause the CPU to possibly go into thermal shutdown so they need a PSU that will have a low power demand-to-overhead.
@@krozareq OMG didn't think about that, that makes sense. Even Dell knows this is a garbage system so it only makes sense to put a PSU that is functionally idle at all times. Scumbags
I worked for Alienware back in 2004 before the Dell acquisition. I can honestly say that back then the majority of the employees were actual gamers and were really excited to work for the company. If you said you worked for Alienware back then, (in Miami) you were pretty cool. And while they were always extremely expensive I can say that they were built with care and the techs that worked on the computers returned for tech support were VERY intelligent and avid gamers. Its sad to see what the company has become.
I remember going to my dad's friends house and he had a Alienware PC and it looked insane, ever since then I wanted one but when I found out that dell acquired them and basically made downgraded them I decided just to build my own.
Yeah. I remember the og Alienware. While it wasn't my dream PC, I definitely marveled at it when I came across it. Shame how big business always ruin a good thing.
Bahahaha fr? Will they not ship knowing it's him? Kinda saying somn because in theory a multi million dollar company should not at all be fearful of a RU-vidr and yet they are, almost as if HE would find something an average joe wouldn't
@@eatcum I think it has more to do with him not wanting them to send a better or different unit knowing that he will be reviewing it for a large audience. Either way they are such an atrocious company
@@eatcum No it’s the opposite, if they knew who he was they would likely send a specifically chosen/made version so if he makes a video it will come off positively
A lot of these pre built websites include an optional professional wiring upgrade or upgraded shipping protection. Which is fucking ridiculous in my eyes. If someone is paying an up charge in parts for you to build a pc you should wire it professionally and neatly regardless. If you’re shipping a computer it should be packed with care regardless.
For the prices they charge you should get wiring done by a Buddist monk at the top of a mountain who only does one computer in his entire life and immediately dies feeling fulfilled.
This is literally the Precision 3630 chassis, we have hundreds of them in the office that I support. Fun fact: VRMs at 10:50 are coming *with* a heatsink now and everytime we service one of these towers DELL sends a heatsink to install free of charge.
Hey you think you csn send one for me? Unbelievable that Dell sends any unit they ship without a vrm heatsink. It's worse than planned obsolescence. It's planned failure.
THAT'S where I've seen those chassis! We supply ex-lease IT hw to non-profits, had to replace a few power supplies as they seem to fail ground tests regularly, so I had to make a bunch of adapters for ATX-whateverthehelldell's socket is.
@@lucidnonsense942 What do you mean by ground test? At least it seems like they have their power supplies together now... too bad about the rest of the computer though
@@thomaserickson5737 This case design was actually around in the middle of like 2019, so I'm not sure if that was enough time for Sony to copy them or not, but they definitely got it from Dyson and not Sony
Love your work Jarrod! I'm not sure about the USA, but the r11/r12 models were getting pretty steep discounts at the peak of the GPU price hike a few months ago, often the systems were selling for less than the GPU they shipped with in Aus. Not long after dell 3080's and empty or gpu mismatched r11's starting popping up all over the usual 2nd hand market sites. Even at that discounted price, I personally still felt ripped off with what I received as someone whose built all my PC's til then.
At $2k for a rig that doesn't even have a heatsink on it's VRM, it is legitimately a scam rig. I'd trust a dodgy PC ad on craiglist more than I would trust Alienware.
I could spend less money, get a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh case and have a superior rig with a case that isn’t trying it’s hardest to strangle it’s own airflow. This has three fans including the cpu cooler… the case I mention, can have 3 front, two top, one back and two inside to help cool the gpu if you really wanted.
@@draketurtle4169 The people who buy these prebuilts are inexperienced people who are not interesed in learning how to build a pc due to lack of interest or confidence or they just dont have the time to build one.
@@davidjohn3710 I suppose that is true, I have an interest in getting a good setup but most importantly one thst is cheap but as reliable as I can get, the people who buy from them see the brand/design first.
@@draketurtle4169 I bought nearly the same thing in the vid but several upgrades on it. Close to $2,500. Stepdad is an IT guy & has been, I can solemnly say that when he opened it up to check it out, it looked nothing like this. Can run any game at 200+ FPS, haven’t really strained it any other way
@@draketurtle4169 damn good case. I am running one of those currently. Can attest to its easy access and we'll formed interior making it easy to work with
I would bet that the chassis literally is garbage. They probably had a pile of ancient computer cases sitting in a warehouse, destined for the dump and some higher-up said "hey, I think we might be able to re-use this. Someone fetch me an engineer--and make sure you put a collar on this one! The last one got away."
I remember when I was a kid seeing Alienware and thinking it was the coolest pc I’ve ever seen now I just realize that that’s their entire marketing strategy… appeal to children so you can get away with half assing the internals
I love how prior to getting into building PCs I used to have the impression that these Alienware stuff had to be good cause of their price tag, really goes to show the knowledge disparity between enthusiasts and your typical consumer
Also the pure avarice in the eyes of a Dell executive when they see how much they can get away with charging for this kind of crap. And how little they can spend on actual product "quality".
Back before I got myself more educated on PCs (thanks in part to Gamers Nexus) I bought an Alienware R4 laptop - an expensive machine that I assumed had to be awesome coz it cost so much… Wanted to love it so much, but it was a regretful purchase…
I remember when Alienware was a small company that was going well beyond what everyone else was doing, putting 1T HDs in a system when companies like Dell were stuck at 500G and placing water coolers in their system. I miss the old Alienware.
@@andyk192 PRETTY bad? I received my Alienware just after the takeover and had to send it back for repair three times in the FIRST YEAR ALONE. I freely admit that makes me bitter and biased against them, but they do make some frankly repulsive costcutting choices under the Alienware brand.
@RU-vid is highkey garbage If you are talking about Alienware Area 51M, don't you dare talk shit about it. It's one of the best system ever made, a true desktop replacement. Replaceable parts, runs very cool, it's a godlike desktop replacement. It isn't so much a laptop, thing is fucking massive. But it's basically a PC with screen attached that can be moved from location to location easier. Sadly, everything else Alienware makes are utter garbage and they stopped making Area 51M and tried to pursue thinness like monkeys.
In an effort to make it look "cool" they completely destroyed any chance of airflow. These things are like Bic lighters, use them until they wont work and throw them away.
@@JoseGonzalez-ic7nl I could be wrong but I couldnt find any reviews of the R16, the newest one was the R15. I have no intention of ever buying one, but I WAS curious if they had fixed the case issues or not.
@@JoseGonzalez-ic7nl omg never mind I found it, was included in another video. Seems like although it wasnt perfect, it was at least improved. I like it when we as a group (pc enjoyers) can actually make an impact on these big corps.
It would be amusing to see him review a Dell workstation and be absolutely shocked the quality difference between their business/enterprise products and consumer products.
@@SenatorNorman Recycle centers and donation centers. There's hundreds that 99% of the time end up in landfills and not actually recycled. Just look up near you tech donation or recycle centers. Also asking neighbors helps too.
I used to work for Dell, in XPS support between late 2006 and mid-2008, I'm not sure if I'm amused or horrified that Dell is still using the business model of "We sell garbage to morons."
There's actually a lot of stories about Intel sabotaging their G5 laptops with rizer cpus through bios updates. These updates gets installed automatically by Windows Updates and significantly slows the computer down and give a lot worst gaming performances.
I have the Aurora R5 and the interior layout is identical to the R10, other than the components. Same hinged PSU, same pop-off side panel, everything. Insane how they've felt the need to change nothing except the plastic shell over the last 5 years.
I own a S2417DG from DELL and I love it. So some things they do great and other things they do shitty. That is why I love GN, because they hide their buys and then give us an honest review about products that these companies are selling us.
Not so long ago, I had never built a PC. And to date, I have built exactly one. But the thought of it was intimidating so I started looking at pre-built options. At the time, Micro Center was running a special on an Aurora R10 with a Ryzen 5900X and 3080 ti for $2K and 12 months 0% interest financing. So I went on down to Micro Center to look at one with the intention of buying one. The guy at MC who was helping me seemed like he wanted to say something about my choice, but was understandably biting his tongue, as I am sure that MC has a very financially beneficial relationship with Dell and their staff is probably trained to not bad mouth them. So I made the purchase. To say the experience with how the PC performed was disappointing was an understatement. Any attempt to run games in full-screen mode was met with constant display flickering or just outright going to black for 3-10 seconds before coming back. More frustrating than the performance was the customer service. I basically got run around in a circle for 90 minutes while being disconnected and talking to one indifferent person after another while getting no support on the issue. So I promptly did a factory reset on the machine and took it back to MC. I was frustrated and decided that I was going to watch as many PC build tutorials as possible. I went back a couple of weeks later and had someone help me spec out a similarly equipped unit that included a Ryzen 5900X, EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 Ti, 1 TB NVME SSD, MSI Tomahawk X570s, EVGA 1000W Gold PSU, 32GB of Corsair RAM, Corsair H150i AIO, and a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh to house it all. It ended up costing me $200 more for a VASTLY superior PC that also looks amazing and doesn't lock me into buying a whole new PC when that hunk of junk R10 inevitably broke down. To anyone who is looking at pre-built options, just know that I was and to a degree still am a tech idiot. Did I make mistakes and have to redo things here and there during the build? Absolutely! Did I have to keep referencing videos and googling things to get it all done? You bet your ass I did! But I figured it out and took the time to make everything look and run perfect. My point is that it is not as difficult as you think. You can definitely build your own PC and it will mean more to you when you're done. Don't be afraid to step out of your comfort zone. Trust me when I say, if I can build a PC, so can you. I sincerely appreciate channels like Gamers Nexus and other quality content creators in the tech space who educate everyday Joe's like me to help us learn what to buy and what to stay away from and also put out quality content to help people get through their first build and have a quality working PC.
did you reuse any of the components from the dell pc in the diy build? im sure the cpu and ram could be reused but i don't know. the way to go is to factory reset the windows install as soon as you get a prebuilt to get rid of the shit
@@spacewoag4572 I did not. I returned the entire system after realizing it was a dud and that Dell's customer service was absolute trash. My current system was built from scratch with off the shelf components.
I've been building my own since like 2008 or something. Every four or five years. It's always a mess though, I suck at cable management and I insist on making SFX builds. Getting a 3080 and a liquid AIO in an SFX case was... Interesting. Cables look a damb mess. Don't even care, it's got decent thermals and runs.
@@deveneleven400 I'm not the original commenter, but I used LTT's first-person PC build guide when building my first PC. They've come out with a longer guide that goes over component selections, but I don't remember if that included a guide on how to build the computer.
Totally agree! My whole family has been Mac, but I paid for the parts and built my own pc after months of researching and obsessing. Just so people know how little intelligence you need to build a pc, the first time I tried to turn it on (before I put it in the case) it didn't do anything. The lights on the cpu fan turned on, along with the power supply fan, but the cpu fan didn't turn on (and the heatsink didn't even get warm. Turns out after quite a bit of troubleshooting I didn't plug in an extra cable into the *power supply*. I had put the cpu power cable into the motherboard, but I hadn't put *all* of the cpu connectors into the power supply (I have a modular power supply). Since then, it has worked fine ever since.
@@criostasis I get what you're saying but Dell is out $100 million where as I doubt they'd pay any single user $100 million. I'd rather say fuck you to Dell tbh.
They can, when the VRM explodes and takes your data with it. Not even a heatsink next to a 100 C generating CPU sinking mostly into the copper on the mainboard.
What do you mean by “sane”? Everyone is already sue happy so they could if they wanted. On what grounds? I’m sure they could argue, you got exactly what they advertised to you. Btw - I can’t stand Dell machines. They’ve screwed me over more than once, and our business decided to switch from Lenovo to Dell 3-4 years ago and we’ve had more DoA machines than I care to count. So not fanboying, just making a point.
That thing has been around unchanged for much longer than that, I have one in a junk parts box that came off a core 2 duo, it's the exact same cooler lol.
@@GamersNexus maybe its crammed in enough that they assumed airpressure is high enough to assume liquid state of the air? Well i think nitrogen would be first. So its techically "liquid" nitrogen cooling
@@GamersNexus the 1800$ R10 has a "Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU", so technically they didn't lied but they don't show this cooler either and description should say "Low-Profile Cheap Cooling CPU".
Alienware's persistently good reputation, at least among the non-builder PC population, is a bit mystifying. This PC is basically the current day version of the SFF Optiplex GX series found in every office since the year 2000. The shell is slightly more ostentatious but it still looks cosmopolitan corporate-friendly by emulating the Dyson look.
Its so sad. When I was a teeny tot, Alienware was the "omg you got one of those, you parents must be rich" now its the "Dude you got a dell?" - with a horrified face instead of excited....
@@LiLBitsDK They might have been "sweet" viewed through adolescent eyes back in the 90s/00s. But we're all a bit older and wiser now. Well, most of us are ...
Back then I kept saying they were shit. They never were good, but alas impressionable people as per usual will get a hard on over something that looks nice; and thus the Alienware craze.
@@TapZz_FPS Btw like 90% of prebuilt computers are shit tier like this, I would really recommend to just build pc or pay someone to build it for you at least.
@@Djuntas Well I live in Finland and most OEMs aren't great. Because they use weird mobos, weird PSUs, usually single stick of ram and very small coolers and their cases are most often very air restricted. I'm not trying to hate on prebuilt PCs and that's good that yours is doing well, but prebuilt just aren't at same quality level with aftermarket parts. Also one big downside to prebuilts are their limited upgradability. (Btw I think biggest upside of prebuilts is that the warranty covers the whole PC at once, so if it breaks you dont have to troubleshoot anything. Although some companies offer building the PC from the components you choose and then the whole PC gets warranty so I think thats still the best choice, at least if you are PC enthusiast.)
@@megapet777 Yea local laws and everything, but if you buy from an OEM in Denmark you get 2 year warranty, and IIRC even 14 days return policies. Biggest part of doing it right is buying one with standard of the shelf parts. Mine is that 100%. A good old NZXT H400 case, Asus mobo and 970 gpu strix etc. Just very standard. I actually bought this spec, cause at that time it was cheaper to buy from them than build yourself. And now that is even more true hehe. Anyway as I mentioned, call their support, plague them and be "that guy", annoy them, bug them, make them listen - I did that, cause I did not want their stupid AIO cooler and I also think I got a better PSU, both not as standard options on their site.
Just wow. I always thought of Alienware stuff as just being overpriced and not worth your money, but I never realized just the amount of corners that Dell attempts to cut and the amount of things that they cheap out in with their PCs. To cut as many corners and cheap out in as many things as they did in an 1800 dollar pc is just unacceptable and embarrassing. What a lousy job.
I work for Dell and repair their laptops and desktops for warranty repair. The case itself is a optiplex reuse just with a crazy exterior shell. I do enjoy the power supply swinging out since its easy to access the things under neath as well as the replaceability of that part. Though in terms of the "quality" its not the best no. Dell does try to emphasize reusablibity. In other words, create 1 product that can be reused about 10 ways. Thats the same thing for their enterprise servers.
Wait a min hold up. I know its late now, but perhaps thats the case in serverland but definitely not for consumer/business desktops. They’re far from “reusable”, but instead its just “lets not re-tool this ancient piece of garbage chassis from 2001 and strap an eye catching piece of plastic on the front”. Similar to HP in this way. Even among their own proprietary parts they are not interchangeable. For example ive been working on multiple Optiplex 7050 sff and 7060 MT models i bought for bulk pricing bc theyre e-waste after initial 5yr usage. For fun decided to mod one of the 7060 MT as a mini gaming pc by cutting a giant hole in the side panel, removing the board, snapping out the case mount cpu cooler standoffs, and installing an aftermarket 6 heatpipe downdraft cooler on the i7-8700. Checked pinouts and keying between the stock PSU (no pcie power) and the G5 5000 PSU (6 pin pcie power i wanted). It appeared to match identically with the exception of the G5 PSU having an additional 4pin CPU connector, which. Normally doesnt matter and just ziptied the slack and extra connector back. Installed 92mm rgb exhaust and intake fans after cutting apart the useless steel hinged hard drive/cd drive case to make more room for the gpu. Installed rgb remote controller and everything. Went to boot it (looks quite good actually) with an RX 6600 and 6500xt (tried both) and the board refuses to post with the psu. Evidently Dell is the only company on the planet that makes a psu that wont work with a board with the same pinouts if both 4pin cpu connectors are not plugged in… so in short, hard disagree on the “reusability” angle. Theyre just cheap, and low quality, and proprietary as possible. Sorry but you work for a garbage company that pumps out e-waste to keep earnings reports high and can be outperformed by a random named $300 Chinese motherboard with an embedded i9-11980hk and pcie slots and at least the chinese board has heatsinks on the vrm despite the chip being mobile only…. Id rather buy 100 more of the chinese boards than work on a single other dell or hp box once im done selling through this lot im refurbing because its such a horrific pain in the ass to diagnose. Also, tell your company to unlock fan control ffs and update their bios from a locked down 2007 windows xp skin. Id rather it be the generic low res one with more options (chinese board also does better in this regard, literally everything is unlocked) than one that looks pretty but you cant do any tuning with. F- Dell. Nothing against you personally, of course
I was close to buying one of these for my son. Thank you for saving me $2000. Edit: If I could find the parts that's not 3 times their worth. I would gladly build the pc my self.
Phew dodged a bullet there and then some, you are almost the sort of people these rip-off merchants target, I say almost because you are here, you've done a little (and in this case enough) research, Steve is a fantastic resource and no doubt has saved his viewers 1000s of $,£ etc. Right from the best PC case and to everything that goes in it. :)
I have no idea how old your kid is...but building a pc together would be a good investment in more ways then one. I built my first when i was 13 yrs old...haven't bought a stock config since.
If you want a good prebuilt (as good as they get anyway), I’d recommend an HP Omen 30L. All it really needs is a better air cooler, like a Noctua. A friend also had good luck with a Skytech prebuilt off Newegg. I prefer DIY, but in this market, starting with a prebuilt and modding it was the best option.
Ironically, Dell was a company that pushed the plastic air tunnel hooked to the cpu cooler pushing hot air out the pc. Ideal for this situation...so, where is it?
dude if you have good thermals than you can't learn to rely on their support services and get the opportunity to buy a new system when this one wears out. They just want the best for you, after all..... dude. You got a dell.
This is so Gateway 2000. It even has an PSU directly over the CPU. Never thought I'd see this kind of case layout again. Of course it made sense back then as CPU TDP was like 30W MAX before the Pentium 4 came out.
Man, have you seen Dell's machines from the 1990s? Not only were their "custom" hardware solutions absolute garbage already, but finding drivers to them feels like doing Sumerian Sudoku blindfolded.
Dell decides to deliver a P4 machine to me, where yhe tem9 srnsor for the CPU was in yhe path of the CPU fan. Talk about oscillation. The fan went high-speed. Cooled the temp sensor. The fan stopped. The sensor got hot. The fan returned to crazy speed. A full day with the fan switching between slow and fast was no joke... That made me seriously dislike Dell, and I have never stopped.
Whats sad is back in the day Alienware was the only big gaming pc maker. Like wayyyy back in the day.. they sold great custom pcs.. but thrn were bougjt out and turned to this
@@veganninja5886 i auggest you do research of current cpus and gpus out today. And learn whicj ones are top of the line or mid range and low end.. and go based on that for some prebuilt system. Dont ever just go based off some company saying (gaming system) and flashy lights. That or i suggest you learn to build a computer yourself.. its fun
That's it bud. Liquid Cooled* *Dells liquid cooling depends on the humidity of the ambient environment, and requires the user to spray water constantly into the fan.
I found that strange as mine was actually water cooled. Its like all their boxes probably have that printed on there and he just didnt choose the option upon purchase.
And some peps out there feeling and acting cool cause they spent an ass full of cash for that crap. Really that makes me more sad than its entertaining
I used to work at their call center in Costa Rica, ever since they were bought by Dell the quality of the technical service and the build fell dramatically. We used to do liquid cooling when it was not a thing, we did research and development and tested all parts, we had a lab to test them, if a user had compatibility issues we could immediately find all the parts for testing and when there was hardware issues we could claim it to the vendor. Then we got fired one by one and were replaced by cheaper and very inexperienced techs.
Still have my wifes Alienware from 2003, pre-Dell. They were pretty slick back then. As soon as Dell bought them I knew it was over. I build now, much better option.
Honestly before being bought by Dell they weren't bad, you got a well built nice system but it was just hugely over-priced. It wasn't something that you would dislike really, when you saw the performance and they had interesting custom cases. But for having basically 5 nice custom cases at any given time you paid a 30% to 50% premium for the same internals.
@@OmniMontel You always buy alienware for looks. Even before the Dell buyout. I always laughed at alienware owners since they are the mac of the windows PC world.
@@OmniMontel Agreed. That's why I equate it to Mac. Decent parts, nice looking, overpriced, and halfway gimped with software locks to keep us "plebs" from breaking everything. Lmao
That's nothing. My friend has an $4000 Alienware that arrived with zero thermal compound on the CPU. It was shutting down out of the box, he asked me to look at it. They never removed the protective plastic on the heatsink, nor applied any thermal compound.
I used to work for Alienware before Dell acquired them. We used to build the machines on the line. Whenever we read the invoices, we would marvel at how much money people would spend on machines we could build for a fraction of the price. Seems like things have become even worse. Even cheaper.
What year did you work for Alienware. I had a computer built by them in 2007. It was ok and it broke because of cooling problems. Thanks to that computer i learned how to build my own computers and never looked back,
@@ziosrips Alienware is the reason I got into building computers in the first place. After trying to increase my Aurora R7's disk speed to something that wouldn't bottleneck the rest of my computer, I discovered just how anti consumer Alienware was. After going through that nightmare, I decided I would never let this happen again, and thus have gotten into the custom building space. So thank you Alienware for being so shit that you forced me to learn and become better!
Just like Microsoft with their Edge Browser: "How many nagging advertisements and how many features that have no other use than to promote the use of Edge can we shove into our desktop OS, before antitrust strikes again?.."
Basically that's how corporate higher-ups 'optimize' the management cost. They push the spendings up to the limit where, well, they can't be sued for poor product quality. They don't care about 'good' product. They only care about numbers on reports.
having an alienware laptop, all I can say is that during winter, it was making my room warmer by running real toasty not doing much. a long FIFA session and the room would raise in temperature a few degrees. it also sounds like a vacuum cleaner is on at all times.
Dude, Thank You for this video. I literally was going to buy one of their computers. I have one in the shopping cart now waiting for me to pull the trigger. I can't say thanks enough. Life saver.
C+P from a similar post,, Phew dodged a bullet there and then some, you are almost the sort of people these rip-off merchants target, I say almost because you are here, you've done a little (and in this case enough) research, Steve is a fantastic resource and no doubt has saved his viewers 1000s of $,£ etc. Right from the best PC case and to everything that goes in it. :)
@@demigo1031 I don't need a pre-built, I just have Credit with them just sitting there not being used and I do need a new computer, so was going to go that route. I will build my own like I've always done and use the credit to get accessories.
I picked up an Alienware tower from Best Buy in Nov 2016 with a 1080 GTX for $1300...thing still runs like a champ in 2022 and surprisingly has lasted longer than any PC I've ever owned...the reliability impresses me greatly!
One of the most ridiculous parts of this computer (as well as most of the Alienware line-up) is the amount of plastic surrounding the metal chassis. Around 9:55 you can see that there's at least 5-8 inches of plastic on the top, about 2 inches on the front, and another 2 inches on the bottom. The computer itself would normally be a small-form-factor size, but all that extra plastic makes it as big as a regular desktop PC with absolutely no advantages. In fact, it makes it much harder to clean and definitely reduces the already pitiful amount of airflow. _But hey, even if it runs _*_hot_*_ at least it looks _*_cool_*_ right?_ *XD*
The only thing Alienware had was the looks - if you are into that kind of thing. Otherwise they are just overpriced PC-s that delivered, honestly, not that good of a gaming performance. So yeah, the rounded cheap looking plastic is the only thing Alienware ever had.
Lol, they got it backwards: Gamers want a PC that looks *hot* (red LEDs = fast) but runs *cool!* In either case, with this "Pie-Ce of shit" you pay a 100% premium for an upgraded office PC (which was already overpriced) in a (somewhat) sleek disguise. It's like buying a widebody VW Golf "hot hatch" with Racing stripes, that runs the stock 90 hp 1.3 l base engine.
Yeah, I once got a old used alienware pc cuz I wanted the cpu and the seller didnt want to just sell the cpu. And it was easily the worst pc I've ever bought. The cooling solutions is nowhere near capable of cooling the cpu, very loud. The 850w psu inside is so bad a average 650w psu beats it( the 850w psu can't power the gpu the pc came with while the 650 could easilt handle the gpu overclocked). It is the worst thing ever to work on, all fans in general suck and are loud. The case is very heavy with a lot of sharp edges (open or closed). It does look nice but that is literally about it.
I remember 30 years ago my mother wanted to upgrade her modem in her year old Dell computer. It had an onboard modem and I needed to add one in an expansion slot. What a hassle. After looking inside that computer I was not impressed with Dell and have not touched their products since. Good to know things haven't changed much.
the correct way to make dell improve the design of these is to run it at full power until it inevitably burns itself up, invoke the warranty to get another one, repeat ad infinitum until you've cost them so much money that they change the design just to prevent them from coming back
Dell should market the air cooled version as the "Full Throttle Edition!" Then when customers complain that their CPU is downclocking they can claim this was disclosed when they sold the PC.
Back in the late 90s I tried to start a company building custom PCs but couldn't really afford to get off the ground, but at least I never tried to sell anyone garbage like this. Know what did me in, potential customers said, "but Gateway offers a free printer" I looked up those printers and said to them if you want a $50 printer I will throw it in, just know that giving you a garbage printer is no reason to go with them over me... I didn't have good social skills, nor funding to advertise, nor any sales experience and I failed hard in a time where there were basically only 3 competitors. I learned a lot, apparently I could teach Alien ware a few things, maybe I should get back into the game knowing much more than I did back in the day. I certainly would be happier working for myself than where I work now.
The fact you buy the components without telling them abs have anonymous shipping addresses makes you the GOAT. Thank you for staying true to the pc community.
