Himiway Range Test - Throttle Only 

You are, "our field expert!" Thank you. My wife and I live in a mountainous area and she is almost ready to buy. And this video mattered.

Great job. building up that data base as you test more and more bikes is going to be really helpful to the consumers.

I’m in Virginia Beach. It’s all flatlands so I’ll do the same test with my Himiway when it arrives and send you the numbers. Thanks for a great test!

Thanks for helping me finalize my decision on buying a Himiway. This video did it! Keep up the great videos...

I cant tell you how many review videos I have watched on fat ebikes in the last 36 hours and you have presented some of the best and most unique information I have seen yet. Keep up the great work bro.

Boy, it must've taken you a long time to do all that riding! Add another great, informative video to the collection!

Very nice video. Ordered my Cruiser Fat bike this morning, can't wait. Just Feb 1st here in MN, know I'll be out riding soon after assembly, Cold, yes..... Looks like a learning curve on the assist and power. Jack

Thank you for another awesome video!

Excellent video and very educational! My wife and I just went to Coronado, CA and averaged about 20mph on setting 4 peddling on damp sand for approx 10 miles. We both have Himiway Cruisers, but hers is a step thru. It was windy and a lot of resistance with the damp sand, but great fun! The battery was certainly assisting quite a bit and dropped a couple bars! Actually, it's hard for me not to pedal, and I know the battery will last longer by assisting it.

Thank you for this. Most review channels are full of fluff and you just get on this thing and show us what we need to know 👏

Great video, I ordered the Cruiser Step Thru in February. I really love the look of this frame, suppose to ship out in April. can't wait to get it keep up the good work.

Great video and I think I am going to do this test on my bike. I have a town about 12 miles from my house with some good up and downhills. I am a big guy at 285lbs and the bike is the Bikonit MD1000. I think it will help significantly to have a much better idea of what the bike can do range wise. It will also give me a feel of what it feels like at near drained and know I better head back to home or camp. Great video!!

Excellent video!!! The Escape reminds me of my Camp Scrambler, eats up the battery so fast! Of course 13/14ah equals much less range than 17/19ah batteries. When I finally cook my battery, I will replace it with a 19ah!!!! My Rad Runner gets crazy good range, even though it's 14ah, it must have to do with the wimpy 'peak 750' watt motor! Keep up the good work!!!

Now that is a proper range test, thank you. I think you are right about the heavier bike and the chunkier tyres, they do make a huge difference. If you want to take a longer trip like say 40 miles than the trick is to pedal hard for as long as you can and only rely on the battery to get you home.

Thank you thank you very much for that information, you are really helping me to choose the right bike for me. Appreciate your videos and keep them coming

Great video. Watched it end to end. Only thing I didn't hear was battery capacity numbers for the 3 bikes. Take care.

Am loving that Escape look.

What I really like about your test, is that it provides the logic that helps puts the rider fully in control of ensuring that their battery lasts for the intended trip length. BTW, how would you rate the non-assisted pedal effort expended to get back home on these individual bikes?

Karen at @7:00. Awesome review by the way, great points and ideas spoken. I have the City Pedelec (EU version) and was surprised after I managed to get 45mi on the first charge, mainly riding on hilly roads here in Spain. (250W - 15.5mph = EU Legal)

Thank you for a great comparison! You did a wonderful job!!

wow great idea for testing, i think ill do the same test on my bolton blackbird so i dont have to worry about range anxiety!

I find your reviews and explanations of the details of the bikes you report on to be very helpful. thanks. One of the things that I am interested in knowing about fat tire cruisers (like the Himiway step through) is how easy it is to pedal without using the motor. I have been running errands and cruising up and down the coast from Santa Monica to Redondo beach for a couple of years on my big heavy classic 3 speed beach cruiser that weighs about 50 lbs. I weigh about 200 lbs and sometimes, on my way home from the grocery store, can have close to 80 lbs of cargo in saddle bag bastets and the front basket. There are a couple of hills I cant deal with using my 3 speed hub and I would like to get an ebike to help with those situations. I'm also interested in extending my cruising ground a bit. and want to be sure I can pedal the bike home if I push the battery range too far. I would like to be able to use my ebike without power assist for a lot of the nice flat beach bike paths near where I live and actually am not allowed to use a throttled ebike in some parts of paths. Fortunately those are flat parts. A fat tire bike is attractive because the 2.25 inch tires on my current bike sometimes have problems with the sand drifts on the bike paths early in the morning before the maintenance workers get things cleaned up. So I would really appreciate hearing from folks about their experience pedaling their himiway bikes without power assist. Is 10-12 miles reasonable to do, without power, on a fat tire bike like the himiway? I currently have a couple of 25mile roundtrips I do on my beach cruiser.

HEY Thanks so much for giving us some idea as what we can expect from these two bikes >> My question to you isi am 77 years old and YEAH ,,,I'm gonna buy one of these new E bikes . I was really heade into the RAD-BIKE Untill you threw a wrench (IN A GOOD WAY ) into the decision . I now have decided on a HIMIWAY .. I AM A BIG GUY 265LBS Istill get around pretty good .Wife says no more motorcycles had 17 of um . but this is gonna be my new CHOPPER ... Thanks for your info .

thanks for the video. My Himiway Cruiser is supposed to arrive this Thursday.

Watched several of your vids...all good! Did my research on EBikes in December and pulled the trigger on the Himi Cruiser Dec 29th. Supposed to ship any day. Your info pushed into the Himi camp...Thanks!! BTW....Your whiskers are Bad Ass. Must look like a Wild Man cruising the road at 30 mph🤣🤣

Wow. Amazing tests. Thanks so much!

I hope these companies give you some money. This test is needed for ppl 50+. I’m over 50 broke my femur I needed mostly throttle for two months. Great job buddy

I love the way the sellers advertise their e-bikes Powerful motor (250w) Massive battery (10.5ah) first hill or head wind the new owner comes across they wonder what's happening.

I hope you gained more followers. In a Fb group Sat someone had a question about their motor upgrade & of course I mentioned your channel.!

Himesyway cruiser the one I liked. Thank you

your 'cool bro' i like your style and personality,i've had my himi step-through since early june and never went more than about 5 miles a day ,but i did notice those bat. bars leaving i'd say just like your 'vid' showed,i'm going to have to finally trying out what you did ,theres a 20+ miles trail where i live,which they put in when they tore up thee central jersey railroad,and it's paved 'flat',so i'll try out my ride on it,i only would ride to the bridge which emptys the lakes in the raritan bay,here in keansburg,n.j.,which is only about 1.8.-2 miles 1 way,but i try to let ya know how i make out,although your vid. basicly covers me ,"MABEY" i'm not impressed with my mileage from out of the box,say happy 'turkey day' to you friendo,like your style...GOD BLESS...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!++++++ pal AL

Great info for a possible new purchase!! TY

I've built quite a few ebikes and have ridden them for thousands of miles and batt ah is the biggest factor and tire pressure

Your roads remind me of Colonial Williamsburg area. I used to live there. Good video.

Excellent video!

Hey, My Himiway finally showed up! Now the weather is bad. Hopefully, soon I can review it. I had it out yesterday after trying to figure out the display, I had it at 39 miles per hour in assist selection 1. I have to figure out what I did wrong.

Good testing because my himiway shut off on me halfway but I knew the batteries were low and the display showed but cut out and I walked home and thought it was broken but just needed charging 😅

Great video as always. Something to think about with any perches is customer service. I have three Himiways two are broke down. Check out the BBB before you buy a bike.

Thank you for your honesty. Our world is so messed up when it comes to business and politics.

This is important, because you NEED to know when it's time to turn around and go home. Don't ask me how I know! 😂

Cool video dude!!

One thing you forgot to mention was how many times you started up because start ups use an enormous amount of power.

Kevcentral got more but he is a real bike-guy.

My power meter has NEVER worked but with my pedal assist at level 3 out of 5, I’m averaging 42 miles per charge. It takes at least eight hours to recharge the battery.

hi , I like to say something about my ebikes. One thing is strange, some of them show on computer that battery is empty but when you check it on battery self screen, by pushing button on battery then there is still 30% of power. Another bike show 2 bars on computer but motor was cuttng t off from power. So best way to check battery if is totally empty is little button on battery with led scale. Sometimes communication between battery and computer fails. Btw great videos man !

Great test!

I did the sam thing with the stock Rad Rover on some rolling hills and got 23 miles, only had one bar left, under 20%. I tried to keep the speed at 18 mph and only turned the pedals over twice when pulling away from stop signs to save the motor.

Great, Great Review!

Mate, thanks you for that!! Very interesting test. That himiways pretty cool, and ur test jst confirm a few things for me!! LoL! CheeRz Mate!!

Could you please do a range test for the modified RadRover? Also, if you do please post the screen settings so those of us who want to copy your “Beast” will know. Thanks Citizen!

Hey all. Doesn’t matter if it’s 30 mins after you place an order with Himiway. If you cancel (I tried 26 hours after order on a weekend)...they will charge you 8%. The fact they did this to me really concerns me on longevity/reliability of the bike and any future customer service you might need. Just my two cents. Good luck

Awesome review! For some reason, I still think the Rad mini looks more sexy than the Escape. I wish they painted the battery white, which would make it even sexier.

28.5 is great, you should do the same test next summer when it's above 85

it's cool, that helps the motor temp i believe

7:01 I agree with you people don't pay attention ! watch out for bike riders !!!!!!!!

Great Stuff

What is the speed limit set to for this video and does it matter? I feel like you burn through the battery with a higher speed limit.

This needs to be redone for the escape since you had the rear axle bolts loose.

Pretty good for saving ⛽️

Awesome video!! Thanks for all the great info you put out there. I am wondering if the smaller Himiway’s battery may not have been maintained properly before you got it? Since it’s kind of a test model bike, who knows how others may have been storing the battery or how old it is. They could’ve had it stored in super cold or hot places. Do you know what kind of cells are in that battery? I appreciate the time and effort you put in to making your videos. I know these kinds of video take a long time to make, and we only see a very small fraction in the final result. Keep up the great work!

You earned a subscriber.

Thanks

Since I am just ow seeing this, I thought of the biggest battery eater, the wheel size/distance factor. The smaller the tires, the more they need to turn, to go the same distance as the larger tires. That's why 12" tires wear out faster than 21" tires. add to that the extra weight and you've a perfect recipe for tire eating.

This is like the srkcycles channel for ebikes

A Lot of starting and stopping is going to take some extra juice I think too.. Dead stop take offs.

It's Hemmingway approved.

Good overview. My experience is your butt will make you get off any bike long before you ever come close to exhausting the battery. Even with a cushy seat.

Thank you! Great vid. I'm almost set on the Himiway but my kid wants a wagon. Maybe with a battery upgrade, I can get a Rover near Himiway power level? You planning to do a range test while pedaling? Maybe aim for 50 miles? Either way, subscribed!

Outdoor temperature also effects the battery...

Nice range on the Cruiser, disappointing range on the Escape, especially since the Mini with the same battery went way further. The Rad may be less "exciting" in the power delivery, but they do it on purpose, and it beats struggling home like you would with the dead Escape. I wouldn't worry about the motor at those speeds. The stator windings heat up the most, and at high speed there's enough air tumbling around to pass the heat to the case. Lugging up a long grade at low speed is not healthy though 😉

VERY nice . You just did , what I have been hoping to see someone do . T.Y.... Gubs

I just noticed I bight the same mirrors. They just arrived. I thought they’d come left and Right. I had to take one apart and switch the connection. Was that what I was suppose to do? They also arrived from Amazon in just the box not a box in a box not even taped closed or instructions. I have the Rad Wagon and I really really dislike the Swan sword back handle bars. Any suggestions. The Jones H bar has been out of stock for months. I found something similar but the review said they’er on the skinny side. Great job. And I don’t mind if you don’t answer my Q or take your time. I raparse You Have a Life too.

after 3 years on a 5 year batt. range will all ways shrink...but nothing drastic but your head will recalibrate the batt. bars on the controller..

Why theThrottle on my step thru makes only 7km? Cant run full speed.

For what some of these cost, one could get a Gator or other orv which would shelter one from crapola weather, carry passengers and also plenty of cargo...which covers 90% of my transport needs. These need to be legalized for low-speed in city driving, imo.

I should be getting my Himiway step thru cruiser in August. Without throttle are they much harder to peddle than a regular bike?, Thanks for the info.

Hmmmm ..... Very good test but I wonder what the difference would be in July-Aug when it is 100 degrees farenheit in the shade. My rule of broken thumb is 1 to 1.25 miles per amp hour but being conservative and wanting to extend the battery life, I tend call it 1 mile per amp hour.

good evening, I have a himiway zebra, and the trottle can only support up to 6 kmh, can you tell me how to change the settings so that the bike can also drive maximum speed with only throttle, thank you Jan Willem

What is the make of the battery on the first bike please?!

I think it’s fair to say if you were on PAS and off the 100% throttle the Escape would go much further just like any other bike. Probably 30-50 percent further. Your thoughts? 💭

I have the Cruiser in Europe but the trottle is limited to 6km/h. How can this speed be increased?

I would like to ask what mirrors you have on your bikes and where to get them, thanks for a great video, it is helping me decide if I want to order the Hemingway?!?

Hello did you test the himiway zebra

Nice video. How far can u go pedaling at a high PAS level on the Himiway?

In Germany we must pedal :P otherwise the motor won't kick in. I'll check out if there is a workaround. :)

tilt the camera up unti the speedometer display is ner the bottom of the frame

Thanks !! Curious about the weather? Does cold weather generally kill the battery quicker? Almost 30 miles is impressive 👏

That's good range on the cruiser. My Rover with the 35 amp controller, upgraded 750w motor, and the stock battery gives me about 22-23 miles on throttle only (which is how I normally ride). You made me think about how I describe the upgrades to people. I tell them a stock bike will do 24 mph and at about 12 miles starts dropping the speed two or three mph's then another couple miles per hour around 18 miles and 21 mph... Upgraded I get very close to the same range but the mph starts at 33 mph then drops to 28 mph as the battery drains. So right up until the battery dies completely the top speed with upgrades is 3 mph higher than a stock bike with a fresh battery. The biggest range killer is the 35 amp controller is set up to shut the motor off at 40 amps to save the motor.

What one has the better ride?

thank you

I weigh 200 lbs.and get about 25 miles on my Himiway Cruiser with moderate to sometimes full peddle assist, but I never do just throttle only (I actually try to go mid-peddle assist towards the end to conserve battery). These were warmer days as well (50 to 60F). There are hills as I trail ride mostly. I thought I would get more out of the battery though. If I used throttle only and did no peddling I would probably get less than 20. When I got my Himiway bike the voltage in the controller was set to 36V instead of 48v and it caused me to run the battery dead on my first 2 rides (until Himiway instructed me to change the setting to 48v) . I'm wondering if this effected the cells in the Samsung and caused issues with my range? Or do you think this is pretty normal?

Would you do a test run on the Rebel minnie beach cruiser..theres 2 sizes, thank you!

Nice video. Where did you get those mirrors?

Running a battery to empty is very hard on total battery life.

I suppose if you did this in the summer heat, the motor temp would be a lot warmer than it is at 40 degrees.

I'd like to see a test on how far you can go (Hypermiling) I have not seen anyone do that yet. I have gone a 110 on single charge with 4 rides. I know someone has exceeded that because I still had 2 bars left. I only recharged it because I was going on a planned 60 mile rail/trail ride the next day and knew I couldn't make it on what I had left. Mostly PAS 2 on the Himiway - tried not to use the throttle. Anybody???

It would be great if the larger battery fit in the smaller bike and vise versa. Do they?

Big difference with smaller diameter tires. Less distance traveled per revolution

Did you modify the Cruiser to go past 20mph? if not, can you make it so it only goes 20? I dont know much about this but it feels like if you can max out slower you could conserve battery for more range. Im looking at getting a Cruiser in the next few months, Im a heavy guy and one of the places I want to be able to ride to is about 10 miles each way in rolling hill territory, Id be happy maxing out at 15-20mph for the entirety of the trip.

Why didn't you stop at the stop sign before checking the motor?