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Hippies: The Rise and Fall of Our Cultural Ancestors 

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We’re all post-Hippies. We all have Hippies in our genes. They are the ancestors we can’t get rid of.
For us the question was: What to do with the hippy heritage, now that the hippies are gone?
#IDENTITY #PHILOSOPHY #authenticity
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A list of titles of videos from RU-vid that were used in the videos:
1960s, 1970s Hippies Hugging, Free Love, Spiritualism, HD
Bra Burning on the Atlantic City Boardwalk
Pete Seeger - A hard rain's a-gonna fall HD (alta calidad)
Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild (Easy Rider) (1969)
The Doors - The End - Live At Hollywood Bowl 1968
1960s 1970s USA Hippies Dancing Together in Field
1960s 1970s USA Hippies Riding Top of Hippie Bus
1960s Hippies Drug Culture
1970s Hippies Dancing and Playing Bongos at a Festival
Bob Dylan Like A Rolling Stone Live at Newport
Bob Dylan Live at the Newport Folk Festival
Bobby McGee Janis Joplin Woodstock
Changes Live
Chuck Berry Roll Over Beethoven Belgium TV 1965 HD
CocaCola 1971 Hilltop Id like to buy the world a Coke
CSNY Love The One Youre With
David Bowie Helden 1977
Emotional Hippies Crying Over Dead Trees parody
Hang On Sloopy The McCoys Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Brad Pitt and Margaret Qualley
Hippies Best Moments South Park
Jimi hendrix wild thing Live at Monterey Pop festival 1967
LOU REED Walk On The Wild Side Live 1974
MADtv Hippie Parents
Patti Smith Rock N Roll Nigger 1979 Germany
Patti Smith Rock n Roll nigger
San Francisco Scott McKenzie
San Francisco Scott McKenzie
Sex Pistols No Future
The Doors The End Instrumental Remastered
The Rolling Stones Satisfaction Live 1965 Reelin In The Years Archives
Velvet Underground Im Waiting For The Man Subtitulada HD
Woody Guthrie All You Fascists Bound To Lose
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Hans-Georg Moeller is a professor at the Philosophy and Religious Studies Department at the University of Macau, and, with Paul D'Ambrosio, author of the recently published You and Your Profile: Identity After Authenticity".
(If you buy professor's book from the Columbia University Press website and use the promo code CUP20 , you should get a 20% discount.)

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@sylviaowega3839
@sylviaowega3839 Год назад
A great portion of the 1960’s hippies came from upper middle class backgrounds. The working class couldn’t really afford to live as a hippy, or even be authentic and be a free thinking
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 10 месяцев назад
That's true. It's sad that the working class felt they had to be violent about it though when it came to attacking people for protesting a war we never should have been involved in.
@nifftbatuff676
@nifftbatuff676 9 месяцев назад
Upper middle class hippies are still better than upper middle class reactionaries or yuppies.
@sylviaowega3839
@sylviaowega3839 9 месяцев назад
@@nifftbatuff676Yes, it does make sense as middle class hippies and reactionaries tend to be more irrational and emotionally driven.
@lenini056
@lenini056 8 месяцев назад
​@@sylviaowega3839I'm a working class neo hippie. ;)
@RlsIII-uz1kl
@RlsIII-uz1kl 8 месяцев назад
Free thinking isn't mutually exclusive to class. Actually it's been shown these past few years that education has been confused with intelligence. We have to different main stock that came from hippies. We have the pro 2nd amendment right hippies who pushed out a strong stock who are critical thinkers have have the ability to discern between right and wrong. Than we have the other hippies who became stuck in their bubble and detached from the average American experience who put out a group of cultural Marxist, hegalian cultists completely ideologically subverted/indoctrinated/groomed group who are lost desperate and extremely nihilistic. They're identified as woke cultists and they're on the wrong side of history.
@willimeier8903
@willimeier8903 Год назад
As someone living in Berlin this sublation process seems very clear in the current techno culture: everyone says it's about being yourself and expressing yourself freely, but it's becoming more and more stylized and commodified to the point that people even start gatekeeping techno - which is the exact opposite of accepting everyone as they are
@rainbowmonkMC
@rainbowmonkMC Год назад
oh gosh, berlin is a key centre for neoliberal commodification of 'individual expression' , forcing the individual into an entrepanurial existence (each person becoming a 'freelancer' and a 'business' in themselves, and thus we are always-already marketing and selling ourselves and our 'freedom' (of expression)). sorry i find berlin incredibly bleak and most white people i know there have fallen into this pit of neoliberal dispair and individualism expression / self-betterment.
@brainchild2197
@brainchild2197 Год назад
Exactly what I was thinking throughout the video. What is also interesting is that Techno changed from a more hippie-ish culture in the 90s to the darker, bleaker style of the schwarze Szene during the 00s where its profilicity is much more obvious.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 9 месяцев назад
everything with time gets standardised and becomes caricature of original idea going to far in one direction
@max4furious
@max4furious 4 месяца назад
Techno culture and gatekeeping it?
@greytuesday28
@greytuesday28 4 месяца назад
Who gives a shit
@markoslavicek
@markoslavicek Год назад
I like the idea of hippies automatically becoming comformist the moment they defined their style as non-comformist. Reminds me a bit of Zizek's critique of ideology: the most ideological thing is to believe you can step out of ideology.
@FrankWinchester
@FrankWinchester Год назад
I went to a Waldorf school where all the parents were hippies. I used to joke I was being nonconformist by dressing in jeans in a t shirt. In a way, I was
@MrKidKong
@MrKidKong Год назад
Being a teenager and interested in left wing politics, this paradox was one of the first thing that struck me : how criticizing conformity and showcasing signs of non conformity were actually behaviours that followed the same logic of normativity than the norms they stood up against.
@markoslavicek
@markoslavicek Год назад
​@@MrKidKong It seems that the conformist/non-comformist aesthetics (or even ethics) of the counterculture isn't all that important. What matters is that the group somehow _differentiates_ itself from what it considers to be against.
@sylviaowega3839
@sylviaowega3839 Год назад
Now that is true that the hippies became even more conformists than the non-hippies. Most even became part of the establishment once they were given a chance
@greatchalla3799
@greatchalla3799 Год назад
Here’s something to think about? Every so called Hippie from the counterculture era are the same people who didn’t want to become corporate stiff or live like their parents. Most however did, especially when the reality of going back to the land failed. They rebelled authorities and the aspect of a nuclear war that had set them apart from the generation before them. They protested against Vietnam conflict and war and it’s discriminatory draft practices. They protested against corrupted politicians. However today the go along with everything and believe in nothing. The concept of UBI or universal basic income seems appealing now they’ve reached old age. There the same people who’s iconic rock bands self promote the fake vaccinations and are the same generation that are staying silent only helping promote the corruption and destruction of hard fought civil rights that are now being undermined by lockdowns and clamped downs by the Silicon Valley technocrats and wokest cult’s. There today’s same people that have mostly stayed silent and in-turn are culpable of playing along hoping to get something for nothing. In fact although there’s a believe Hippie’s are special and in fact I don’t think they are. I’d say they’re mostly an ideology that hasn’t stood by there own principles they once espoused. Unfortunately they’ve commoditized there ideology and sold out it’s mystic to the generation of unsuspecting naive fool’s. There are no hippies only corrupted failures who have like so many become vassal’s of the ideology of a hidden Globalist agenda happy to denounce nationalism and no longer stand for justice. Hippie’s are the reason religion ethics and its teachings was replaced by eastern mysticism, the drug culture of enlightenment in exchange for replacing Christianity and it’s teaching in public schools in much of North America. The Hippie’s and it’s association with the vide in music was best echoed by Simon and Garfunkel song “The sound of silence”. Peace out!
@benjaminhartwell9404
@benjaminhartwell9404 Год назад
What this video really exposes about hippie-ism is the falseness of its revolutionary pretensions. Though there were definitely radical movements in many western countries at that time, on the main, hippies were not actually seeking a fundamental change in the social order, political economy, etc. whatever they may have said to the contrary. What they really sought was, in a postmodern sense, difference rather than contradiction. They were carving out their own niche in society rather than creating a new one. In our neoliberal era, products are marketed to such niches. If you define yourself as outside society you are merely trying to find a separate space for yourself in the current one, rather than trying to create a new one. One thing that struck me, and that the epilogue highlights is the ultimate cynicism of the hippie movement, not only in the modern sense but in the original, ancient sense of cynicism, that of Diogenes. The hippies rejected social mores and artifice, lived outdoors, practiced free sexuality, and in all senses lived like dogs as Diogenes would have wanted. Later artistic and cultural movements like punk abandoned the unnecessary and contradictory emphasis on authenticity while retaining the nihilistic attitude toward society.
@NevetsTSmith
@NevetsTSmith Год назад
Difference rather than contradiction, nice observation. Hippies did, I think, want a change, but being such dyed in the wool idealists, and pacifists, it's no wonder the movement died and gave way to nihilism soon after.
@benjaminhartwell9404
@benjaminhartwell9404 Год назад
@@ajasen Yes. I was summarizing my take on the video and that, I think, is what Moeller was focusing on. As a said there were genuinely radical movements at the time and groups like the Black Panthers are an example, which I would consider separate from "hippie-ism." I should also clarify that when I say a movement is not revolutionary, that doesn't mean it has no consequences. To say that a movement seeks difference rather than revolution doesn't simply mean that its somehow "bad" or not important. Queer liberation is a movement I would consider as seeking "difference," (i.e. normalizing and advocating tolerance of sexual differences in society) but that doesn't mean that such a movement is not good or consequential.
@spellman007
@spellman007 Год назад
I like that you called punk nihilistic, but they were also obsessed with being "authentic" it reminds me of this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tSm6RjyNtEQ.html
@williampan29
@williampan29 Год назад
the only radical modern movement then is Lani ism and communism. Which from this point of view, the Russians and Chinese were more non confirming than Capitalist nations, despite they were supposedly to be more collectivist and thus the other way around.
@earthling1970
@earthling1970 Год назад
@@benjaminhartwell9404 - thanks for this - you articulated what I was groping toward but much more eloquently.
@joelturnbull4038
@joelturnbull4038 Год назад
I’m reminded of The Simpsons, which became so popular as counter-cultural television that it became mainstream. Not because it confirmed to the culture, but because the culture conformed to it.
@otto_jk
@otto_jk Год назад
To be fair The Simpsons also lost a lot of its edge in a more absolute sense during the years. The old seasons hold up well and still have meaningful social commentary while the newer seasons are devoid of any soul.
@IblewuponyourfaceIII
@IblewuponyourfaceIII 11 месяцев назад
Sounds like what’s called propaganda
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 9 месяцев назад
you can decide your story or story is stronger driver of you movement starts with decisions of people later their story synchronises looses details and story drives the people inside
@mcarmella7842
@mcarmella7842 Год назад
Please do more of these cultural genealogies Georg. So interesting.
@nexstory
@nexstory 9 месяцев назад
One of the major contributors to the hippy culture as a rebellion against the highly structured, conformist society of our parent's generation, was the psychedelic movement and the music that ensued. With the "doors of perception" (Huxley) sprung wide open, another deepening encounter with self took root known as modern spirituality. This movement, saw the bridge between Eastern and Western philosophies merge both traditional as well as novel ways. This period in time also saw the rise of holistic health and natural foods that continues as major enterprises to this day.
@HaraldEngels
@HaraldEngels 4 месяца назад
Excellent analysis. The best I have seen/heard ever. I am now 66 and can remember the cultural shifts. The main problem of the hippie movement was the strong hedonism which represents a contradiction to several values of the movement. And being against something is not sufficient on the long run. Freedom from something is not not freedom for something. The counter-culture quickly won over the zeitgeist but imploded without a concept for what the cultural and personal freedom should get used beyond drowning in dopamine.
@TerryFlynn-sd1ho
@TerryFlynn-sd1ho 27 дней назад
I too am 66 and my take is there were issues than like obviously the Vietnam War, Racial inequality, and of course the music culture of which I became at an early age.Long hair,beads,peace signs were freaking the 'other side' out but they were right about those issues. So I for One Understand where they were coming from. Just my take.
@Merlino.
@Merlino. Год назад
I liked how Herr Moeller's interventions were intended to look spontaneous while making a tour around reality through music movements.
@kdur1117
@kdur1117 Год назад
IMO, there is something about that movement that feels extraordinarily interesting. Thanks for covering this. I'm writing this before watching, just to show appreciation.
@vincezom
@vincezom Год назад
Keep looking. there IS a lot of interesting and well thought out material on the subject of hippies out there. Just not here. Peace.
@kooshikoo6442
@kooshikoo6442 Год назад
THe hippie culture is still alive, and these tendencies of conformity to non-conformity is a factor, but it's highly exaggerated. I'm speaking from personal experience, as a participant of many "hippie"(they are not called hippie gatherings, of course, but embody core hippie values) gatherings. Drug use, nudity, hairstyle,clothing,musical taste,monogamy or polyamory, etc, varies greatly, as well as levels of education, employment status, attitude towards technology.. I could go on and on. You don't see this variation, because the hippies that deviate from how you perceive hippies to be, are not visible as hippies from the outside.
@janinechristiansen7943
@janinechristiansen7943 Месяц назад
Hello! I am a 72 yo woman, retired and living in Jamaica. Born n lived in Germany 16years, influenced by UK (music n clothes etc); years before it came to the US where I lived the remaining of my working life. I have to tell you how much I enjoy this video and your words. Thank you so much for bringing me back with such a pointed historical account of my past.
@jesseroggio7260
@jesseroggio7260 Год назад
I love how it ends with David Bowie singing "Heroes" in German. That was a pleasant surprise. I remember Bowie saying in an interview that his album Heroes and Iggy Pop's album Lust For Life were "purely German products" as they were both recorded in Germany in 1977.
@BartAnderson_writer
@BartAnderson_writer Год назад
I was young in 65-75 so it's interesting to hear your take. There was a richness and a diversity that is hard to communicate. It wasn't so much a particular group of people, but a gigantic wave that swept through society. It affected every aspect of society. Since I was a reporter, I saw it in journalism - the underground newspapers and new ways of writing. It changed politics, relationships, sex, music, food, technology, attituds towards work. Our modern computers came out of that era. If someone wants to learn about that period, I'd encourage them to go beyond the stereotypes of Haight-Ashbury, rock music and drugs. Read autobiographies and biographies of some of the figures. Not the wildly famous ones, but the more normal people. It's good to read the documents of that time - the underground newspapers for example, like the San Francisco Good Times (aka Expres Times). Your sentence "They are the ancestors we can’t get rid of." contains one truth - they are your ancestors, and one self-reveal - the ambivalence you feel. Even now, the 60s are threatening in their openness and courage. They are an irksome reminder that we can be more than the constained pesonalities we tend to be now.
@vincezom
@vincezom Год назад
Right on! You should have done the video instead of German Georg. He didn't understand his own premise.
@BartAnderson_writer
@BartAnderson_writer Год назад
@@vincezom , thank you! I liked the video - every generation has to interpret history in its own way. I'm just ssying that the period is rich with surprises for anyone who delves into it.
@williampatton7476
@williampatton7476 Год назад
Yeah but they changed nothing and world is worse. All the did was sing a song about how paradise was paved. They were just happy with being an experiential witness to this to satisfy themselves because they simply agreed with the notion of the song. Aka they normalised a kind of disenfranchisement from reality. It didn't matter that they effected nothing and simply watched as paradise got paved, satisfied that at least they sung a song. Well my generation had to inherit the results of this self satisfied indolence. And the world is shit now and hippies changed nothing. They weren't openinded enough to see how ineffectual they were. The net result is a world that produces less good music and has less love and freedom.
@BartAnderson_writer
@BartAnderson_writer Год назад
@@williampatton7476 , well, it's complicated! At times I've been pissed with my generation for the reasons you describe. Other times, I've been in awe of the courage and creativity they showed.
@williampatton7476
@williampatton7476 Год назад
@@BartAnderson_writer hmm yeah. I mean I shouldn't be so negative. Compared to my generation there was clearly a level of awareness and ambition that certainly beats swiping tic toc videos. The saddest part is the ahistoriical vaccum of the younger ones now. They don't even have any clues or grasp of the cultures that developed and once existed. The torch of enlightenment hasn't just been put out but completely lost. but yeah maybe I'm jealous because it will be decades if ever that anything similar will be repeated. No instead it's Marvel movies and reality tv for my generation..
@jamesconnolly5164
@jamesconnolly5164 Год назад
The insistence on authenticity, non-conformity, individuality, and non-violence (where reasonably possible) goes back long before the hippies and it's silly to define them this way so as to imply that they invented this stuff. In every time in Western history, some amount of people were expressing views like this.
@user-dj6hu9gq4t
@user-dj6hu9gq4t 8 месяцев назад
Jesus and the hippies, who else? Buddha. Description fits.
@sunkintree
@sunkintree 2 месяца назад
The Transcendentalists
@GCharlesLangisChip
@GCharlesLangisChip 2 дня назад
I recently was called a “old fucking dirty hippy “ he was twenty something years old I’m fifty two . He thought I would be offended. Hey thought it was a slam on me. It was in fact a compliment to me .
@pillmuncher67
@pillmuncher67 Год назад
Mary Woronov: "Hippies were scum." Captain Sensible: "Punks are just Hippies with teeth." Frank Zappa about The Velvet Underground: "It's electric folk music, in the sense that what they're saying comes right out of their environment." Iggy Pop: "I think I helped wipe out the sixties."
@leonidesreyesweshouldinven6246
And your opinion on the , hip hop generation , is just plain brain dead generation .
@katipohl2431
@katipohl2431 Год назад
#Critique: Born in 58 I still remember my long journeys to other countries, especially staying alltogether one year in Nepal. Many of us lived with natives and tribes as our german ethnopharmacologist Dr. Christian Rätsch who died this year. He lived for 3 years with the Lakandon tribe where he did research. He gives a perspective about the hippie movement beeing the revival of the cyclic reemergence of dionysic cults. Personally I am a graduated biologist and professional gardener with some studies in cultural anthropology. This deep longing for tribal roots as a birth right is not understood in the video! Well, free will is a philosophical construct and I give a citation from neurophysiologist/biologist Professor Robert Sapolsky that 'free will is a myth'. People from the hard sciences are not always so happy with the superficial cognitive constructs made by philosophy.... Nowadays I see many young permaculturalists still living a branch of the hippie path with success (Example: 'Der Zirkeldreher' on RU-vid).
@rainbowmonkMC
@rainbowmonkMC Год назад
maybe Willie J. Jenning's 2010 book "The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race" would be helpful reading for you, in terms of understanding "this deep longing for tribal roots as a birth right". He articulates the ways in which Christianity (and Western monotheism in general) has utterly failed in its capacity to help its adherents make coherent meaning out of the world and their place in that world. This lack of rootedness in Christianity and the ways in which 'whiteness' as an amalgamation was born out of and capitalized on this uprootedness is critical for colonialisms functioning. i think it is interesting you bring up Ratsch's claim about a 'cyclic reemergence of dionysic cults', since these cults formed also during a time of Greek coloniality wherein many Greek subjects no longer felt a rooted connection to 'Greece' and their cultural heritage (like whiteness it was empty due to the colonial conquring/empire expanding). so i think we can trace a link in how the subjects of long-term empire who are supposed to feel at the top of the hierarchy (like the white hippies in the 60s or the dionysians) feel lost, uprooted, betrayed, culturally confused, etc. and begin to appropriate the discourses of those they have conquered as an attempt to ground themselves.
@Errzman
@Errzman Год назад
Really interesting video. I really does seem like many social movements or subcultures suffer from the same contradictions. I have a close friend from high-school that was in the punk scene at the time and he got out of it for similar reasons that are laid out in this video. When the anti-conformist subculture starts to mandate conformity, somethings definitely gone wrong. The social obligation to perform "radical individuality" to be seen as a part of "counter culture" has got to be pretty stressful.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 9 месяцев назад
rat race form over spirit like Protestantism, you must read the book first! you must fear sins the most! no happyness permitted! suffer more! and here opposite love more! escape suffering more! be more free! not enough! 😂
@oraz.
@oraz. Год назад
My parents and their friends were hippies. They are obviously from an easier freer time. You could say economic freedom of movement and independence ended around the 80s, but I think culture was still fecund until the about the year 2000. 2012 might be when everything started to slide into the abyss psychically and now the cost of living is so powerful nothing like the culture of the 60s 80s or 90s could survive. People like Jimi Hendrix would be filtered out now by the high cost of living. They were able to move around freely without always wondering how to pay rent which is now almost becoming impossible. The barriers to independent living and success weren't the same for boomers and now they are naive observers of a much worse world in my opinion. they didn't need to endlessly enhance their profilicity as you call it to go into the world.
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 9 месяцев назад
1970 was the moment when things started going to shit it's visible in all kinds of trend graphs on many levels hippie gave freedom but poisoned population with antilogic you pay for every mistake eventually and I'm curious who payed for their freedom? not we know who robs us - corporations
@camer0n44
@camer0n44 Год назад
Very thought-provoking as always! Would love to see a follow-up exploring punk and new wave in more depth. Thank you again, Professor Moeller!
@clawmansegele1988
@clawmansegele1988 Год назад
Thank you, Georg! I have been interested in the hippies and the beat generation for a while and am writing a novel to explore the rise and fall of the hippie ideas further. Your analysis is very interesting and contains valuable criticisms that go further than when people just laugh about the hippies as a product of the past. I find the way you look at profilicity and authenticity very useful and interesting. I’d love to see a video on surrealist art and its connection to absurdism and existentialism! I’d also be interested in a video on idealism, looking at people like John Lennon, Allen Ginsberg, or even Fred Rogers. Thanks again! Love the long-form video essays
@vincezom
@vincezom Год назад
Good luck with your novel. I really hope that, unlike Georg, you research hippies, rather than what other people said about hippies. Peace.
@clawmansegele1988
@clawmansegele1988 Год назад
@@vincezom I do agree. George’s arguments are based on a strange definition of hippies. I think the hippies go beyond the aesthetic. For example, I’d cite the Existentialists and the Humanists (both in the philosophical and psychological sense) as getting at something akin to a “hippie” philosophy, in the sense that they were trying to encourage making one’s own meaning out of the world and embracing one’s authentic self. So, a large part of Georg’s analysis I definitely agree with. However, I think that looking at being “natural”, as Georg was taking about, as part of the hippie “thing” is sort of surface-level. Unless you’re talking about “natural” as being authentic to yourself in a more general way, I think “natural” is just a aesthetic trend of many hippies. But if you do look at hippies in a more broad way, like I tend to, many of the points Georg made do not really apply. I still find what he said to be an interesting perspective to consider though.
@gailism
@gailism Год назад
I wish I had something specific and intelligent to comment, but unfortunately my brain is fried from frenzied term paper-writing. So I'll just express my honest reaction: "Wow, that was fantastic!" I'd love to see more philosophical analyses of music culture in future videos if you are interested in making more.
@pinth
@pinth Год назад
Lol
@christopherstottart
@christopherstottart Год назад
My mother-in-law is a hippie in the purest, most stereotypical quintessential form. So watching this brought me so much understanding of who she is now, in her late 70s, and still clinging to the height of hippiedom in the late 1960s. My wife and her brothers were little naked hippie brats running around the music festivals. It is fascinating to see how each one rejected the culture they were brought up in and lived utterly contrary to their early upbringing.
@johnguerra7222
@johnguerra7222 Год назад
That's pretty much what every generation does.
@christopherstottart
@christopherstottart Год назад
@@johnguerra7222 I should be more clear - this is different than the generalization that "every generation" does this. This is specifically about a distinct cultural movement where hedonism, self-centred, overly sexualized, and drug-centred ways of life can have terrible outcomes for children. The father's drug use descended into paranoid schizophrenia and eventual death in a homeless shelter. The oldest brother ran away from the broken home at age 13, lived on the street and ended up in prison with serious drug-related offences. He died from a drug overdose. The second oldest brother joined the Mormon Church, had several children, and eventually ended up leaving the church most dramatically and became addicted to drugs and alcohol, which he has recovered from. He frequently speaks with my wife about how messed up it all was. The 3rd oldest, brother and closest in age to my wife, is estranged from the family and, you guessed it, battles substance addiction and has extreme ideologies and lives deep inside the most bizarre conspiracy theories (aliens and crop circles, spaceships and laser beams kind of stuff). My wife, the youngest of them, calls herself "the white sheep" of the family. She headed straight for university where she found me, a guy from the most basic, straight-forward, typical North American small-C conservative family. This is very much unlike the "what every generation does" situation.
@Larkinchance
@Larkinchance 9 месяцев назад
We were the Baby Boomers come of age. Long hair was self adoration and a rejection of conformity. I worked in a McDonald's in Santa Monica and I was paid $1.75 and hour. Out of that money, I bought my food, clothes, paid my rent and my motorcycle and had even money left over for pot. I protested the War and saw the Doors at the Whisky for $5. Like a magic spell, it appeared and then vanished like music in the air...
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y Месяц назад
Very nice organizing all I've heard throughout my life into something coherent. This also (kind of) confirmed my idea that with most grassroots youtu movements it's about when the person is able to say that they're part of it and then that defines the culture and not the other way around
@lukel.5815
@lukel.5815 Год назад
I loved this video. I would love to hear what you think about more recent generation’s youth.
@amanbawa574
@amanbawa574 9 месяцев назад
the crazy woke college kids will also eventually grow up and get a job
@johnvaldez1444
@johnvaldez1444 10 месяцев назад
Engaging, informative, and contextual and culturally sensitive. Great video! ☀️🌊🎭
@francoissmith9422
@francoissmith9422 Год назад
What a brilliant synopsis... THANK YOU!
@Jorge-xf9gs
@Jorge-xf9gs Год назад
Hello. What translation of the Zhuangzi would you recommend as most academically accurate? I'd greatly appreciate an early response, since I plan on buying it online for Christmas. Thank you very much.
@martinschaefer9581
@martinschaefer9581 Год назад
That was fun! Had to laugh so many times reminding my own past!
@gh0s1wav
@gh0s1wav Год назад
Please do a video on hyperpop and the culture surrounding it. I think that goes as far as we've gone on a mainstream scale when it comes to style.
@LuceroLucifer
@LuceroLucifer Год назад
your cultural criticism is so on point. truly, you are a great intellectual
@HC-tc7gv
@HC-tc7gv 2 месяца назад
prof. Moeller, although you didn't live through the hippie "age', you have captured the essence of the time [period] better than if you if you actually lived through that time . congart's to you! very impressive!
@ZZZHIYA
@ZZZHIYA Год назад
I suppose I was a hippy. We are still around, maybe you don't know.....Many went on to become educators, writers, artists, ecologists etc.....Some lived/live in intentional communities, some moved to Costa Rica, Sweden etc. and some stayed on.....the thing is, the hippy movement got cashed in on.....and still is being commercialized. It really doesn't get the message that the hip movement was all about. I think the hippies of 2023 are trying to stop the next war. That's the big thing today...having peace and freedom. No one can ever win a war, it is a big loss to everyone. So if you want to be a hippy create peace wherever you are. Be kind, help each other, educate people to the ways of peace.
@hans-georgmoeller7027
@hans-georgmoeller7027 Год назад
@divider13
@divider13 Год назад
Prof. Moeller, when you had long hair, I always thought that you belonged to a band like White Snake. I appreciate your coverage of the profilic identities of the hippie movement. I was wondering about your thoughts on a similar movement in the 90-2000s called "grunge." It had a similar marketing tendency for authenticity, however, it was aware of its tension between authenticity and instrumentalisation of its image.
@thomask.9850
@thomask.9850 Год назад
Grunge was the medicine to kill off hair metal which had become an insane condition ( like the 80's in general). Unfortunately the medicine was so dangerous, Grunge itself almost killed the patient which goes by the name of Rock music.
@Angelorke
@Angelorke Год назад
Similarly to U.S. "punk" in New York, it started without a particular fashion. Or, it contained contradictions of non conformity. However, Malcolm McLaren and possibly other stylists or "entrepreneurs", it was then put into a stylistic and musical box. Despite being shocking at first in the U.K., what they didnt know is that it already was commodified with the management of the Sex Pistols by McLaren
@zekielwagen
@zekielwagen Год назад
Nice! I'd love to hear you go on into the late 80s and 90s pop culture.
@vladimirsukletovic6965
@vladimirsukletovic6965 Год назад
Yeah, it would be interesting to hear something about grunge...
@romanovrex
@romanovrex Год назад
Thanks, great wrap up of the times. We are very close in age, and here, in Melbourne, the punk times were a cultural blossoming. One could be very cynical about the whole thing with the luxury of retrospect, but at the time we were all so committed and enthused, being in the midst of it, and it was glorious (and deadly...to quite a few).
@sunnymacduffee6849
@sunnymacduffee6849 9 месяцев назад
I’m still here😍
@josephzsoka874
@josephzsoka874 Год назад
Bravo...brought back memories ( born in 67')... if there will be a part two, maybe we can look at how our capitalist society(ies), absorbed or accommodated these rebellious flare ups, and commodified ( reified ) their signs and symbols ( for example the Che Guevera t-shirts ? ).
@JohnDoe-dj8kb
@JohnDoe-dj8kb 4 месяца назад
Hippies were some of the coolest people ever!! The government had to infiltrate to separate the masses!!
@daniellang1400
@daniellang1400 Год назад
interesting video; thanks for putting the time and work into making it
@cliffjamesmusic
@cliffjamesmusic Год назад
I spent a year 1970-71 hitch-hiking around Europe and east to India. I certainly met a lot of people smoking dope and tripping on other things. Many were trying to get away from mainstream society as they understood it and were part of the anti-(Vietnam)war movement. However, very few were Hippies or involved in building alternatives. Perhaps it was the media attention which created the illusion of a movement bigger than it really was. It was certainly a missed opportunity, not evolving into a more peaceful way of sharing this planet than how we live today.
@williampatton7476
@williampatton7476 Год назад
Walk a block from haight st and it was the 1950s.
@jolodojo
@jolodojo Год назад
What i like about your videos is that it is an original take on philosophy. Your point of view is new to me. Something i did not hear before. Most RU-vid philosophy videos are about rehashing the old. Not that there is anything wrong about that, but the world needs new perspectives. Your words are a good start. Thank you.
@louisvillebsc1976
@louisvillebsc1976 6 месяцев назад
I’m 69 and part of the hippie culture. I made it to SF in 71 and the culture was still happening but starting to fade away, drugs was getting stronger and more mind control elements. Music was still great and sex was free and common practice. Thank god for penicillin. I had long black hair and a black beard. Girls and guys were attracted to me therefore my gay exposure with bisexual activities. I moved back to home when my draft notice came. I reported and classified as F4. Meaning since my brother had died in Vietnam 1967 and I was the only surviving son that I could be drafted but serve in non combat assignments. I passed. Nixon ended the draft and lucked out. Thanks to my dead brother and political movements. I lived as hippie through my college, graduated with honors and awards, and had big job offers. But went with the company that was ok with my hair and beard (trimmed). Which I still have today, I still do drugs, and enjoy music. I’m retired now and still flying. It was a great culture and life theme. Peace out
@markrademaker5875
@markrademaker5875 24 дня назад
Treat others the way you want others to treat you. 1 John 4:10,11
@shortminute
@shortminute Год назад
Thank you, this explains present culture. Could you please do a video on art school. I feel it has far more cultural influence than it’s given credit for. 😊
@merocaine
@merocaine Год назад
Superb, thanks!
@7th808s
@7th808s Год назад
In a way the emo movement, which post-punk and new wave turned into eventually, is the manifestation in the media of this transition from authenticity to profilicity. And as we all know, rock has been dead ever since, along with the idea that pursuing any kind of authenticity is "cool" anymore. The transition into emo was embodied mostly by My Bloody Valentine (MBV). Funnily enough, MBV seemed almost aware of this inability to be authentic, in contrast to many emo acts that followed. There seems to be an almost ironic humor in their music; the contrast of the heavy instrumentals to the soft vocals that sing what would be lullabies. The only thing they want you to feel in this music is the sadness that you will never reach this authenticity: authentic love, authentic life, authentic being, etc. The vocals refer to childlikeness, or in hippy terms: ego death. They are very similar in their childish simplicity to The Beach Boys in their '67-'70 era (an era that was funnily enough also closed by a very "emo" album in '71). At the same time the aggressive, distorted, unconventional instrumentals seem to harass and mock this childishness; it represents the industrial, modern reality we live in. After emo, white people have not really been able anymore to continue this legacy of rock music in a world in which authenticity is not cool anymore; technologies like social media have lifted the curtain too much. Within black cultures and music genres this striving to be authentic seems to be less prominent: T-Pain sings about his single life even though he is married, Young Thug flat-out admits he doesn't enjoy sex that much while he raps constantly about "fucking bitches", Lil Wayne raps about shooting people and admits he never killed anybody *within the same album.* It is however very confusing that they DO have a heavy emphasis on the notion of being "real". But this "real" means something very different than authentic. Let me demonstrate this by the following tangent: There is this tiktok of an interview with T-Pain, in which he tells he is actually married since he was pretty young, and calls himself the biggest simp. One of the top comments stated that he was VERY REAL for doing this... VERY REAL FOR THE FACT THAT HE LIES IN HIS MUSIC ABOUT WHO HE IS. How does that work? Well, he is not real for lying obviously, but for openly admitting he is not the superhero he paints in his music. "Real" in black american circles means something like being honest about your profile, rather than authenticity. It's being honest about the fact that this is their job and not their life; their life is their kids, their wife, their family, and NOT you, listener. Whether this was always the case, or black people simply were able to adapt to this cultural change better is not entirely clear to me. Of course they just found a better way of hiding authenticity, rather than truly getting rid of it. Therefore, I think in profilicity a basis of authenticity is always hidden, just like their is sincerity hidden in authenticity (as you explained in this video). Disclaimer: When I talk about concepts of "black" and "white", I am talking about it culturally. Eminem belongs to the "black" culture while Hendrix belongs to the "white" culture here. It's simply about a cultural divide that exists in the U.S. and many western countries due to decades of segregation and unwillingness of the government to repair what their ancestors did.
@IThinkItsDark
@IThinkItsDark Год назад
Do you mean My Chemical Romance? My Bloody Valentine is an Irish/British shoegaze band from the early 90s, exactly zero to do with the emo movement.
@ieatlolz
@ieatlolz Год назад
Really loved the editing in this video! Though I found the cut between close and mid shots every sentence to be distracting
@battyjr
@battyjr Год назад
This is one reason I Love the album, "We're Only In It For The Money" by The Mothers of Invention!
@TheGhostofCarlSchmitt
@TheGhostofCarlSchmitt Год назад
a suggestion! how about a video on the baader-meinhof gang since it somewhat relates to this subject?
@SkodaUFOInternational
@SkodaUFOInternational Год назад
I wonder what you think about Hélio Oiticica and the tropicalia movement.
@berkcimen1736
@berkcimen1736 Год назад
so wonderful, thank you
@DvidTheGnome
@DvidTheGnome Год назад
Vito Paulekas was kind of the first hippie. He and his band of "freak" dancers kind of cemented the scene for emerging 60's bands.
@Soular-Man
@Soular-Man 9 месяцев назад
HIPPIE = Highly Intelligent Person Pursuing Infinite Enlightenment
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 10 месяцев назад
It's interesting how many hippies became conservative and religious later in life
@hwithumlaut8288
@hwithumlaut8288 Год назад
This reminds me of a section from the David foster Wallace novel the pale king. Conformist non comformers. It would recommend it to you.
@donistotle957
@donistotle957 Год назад
Damn the algorithm for keeping this from me for so long! I've "hit the bell" for the first time ever... but 26:57 I can't wait :D
@hwithumlaut8288
@hwithumlaut8288 Год назад
I’m a young person and some of my “goth” (no one actually calls themselves goth but you know what I mean) friends will state that they admire hippies and beat stuff. They would never go totally hippie but like I think your right about our genes.
@MalcolmPL
@MalcolmPL Год назад
Fascinating.
@ccfliege
@ccfliege Год назад
What I find interesting about all this is that you didn't mention the "Krautrock" from germany, which is kind of distinct actually from americas hippie music in that the hippie music was always more folk in combination with afro-american blues, while german Krautrock was similar but had very interesting influences from classical music (as some of these musicians went first to the very conservative conservatoires in germany)
@szymonbaranowski8184
@szymonbaranowski8184 9 месяцев назад
like K-pop
@ludvigInLegendaryLands
@ludvigInLegendaryLands Год назад
Amazing video as always!
@vollstaendingennamen
@vollstaendingennamen Год назад
id be really curious about your opinion on the early 2000s culture surrounding jackass, when i was young those shows (also wwe) had a huge impact on many people around me back then.
@williampatton7476
@williampatton7476 Год назад
True, and like love island and other such shows.
@pow9606
@pow9606 9 месяцев назад
If I had to use one word to describe what you are trying to say it's: Freedom.
@hwithumlaut8288
@hwithumlaut8288 Год назад
I loved this video. It wasn’t authentic but had something genuine.
@kritischinteressiert
@kritischinteressiert Год назад
Eloquent! Hervorragender Kanal - Danke!
@Nestoras_Zogopoulos
@Nestoras_Zogopoulos Год назад
"They are at the same time negated and somehow maintained, re-enacted in the wider stage" this as well as what Nitsche said about christianity seem to make a lot of sense in the framework of Ken Wilber and his Integral Theory. Could you perhaps comment a bit on Integral theory prof. Moeller ? As always thank you for sharing your thoughts.
@NevetsTSmith
@NevetsTSmith Год назад
Neat to watch, relevant to many subcultures that prioritized anticonformity. You gotta address that Blame! manga in the back though.
@danielmartin9351
@danielmartin9351 8 месяцев назад
Wunderbare Analyse einer Bewegung. Vielen Dank für dieses Video. Alles Liebe
@tattarrrrattat
@tattarrrrattat 9 месяцев назад
The search for authenticity is also a part of hipster culture.
@akkarin1225
@akkarin1225 Год назад
Im not sure it is so useful to stress the Originality aspect too much, and to infer all these contradictions succinctively. Of course any counterculture must be seen historically as a response to a mainstream that was felt to be unsatisfactory, however I wouldnt go too far into that principle, instead, maybe the core aesthetic, the Values expressed, the music, the clothing and the ways of living with other beings are all elements of its own, that were simply being shared with Love and in that sense it may not necessarily be a contradiction to share these elements, this way of Life at all. Thoughts? I must say I argue this way because for me, a millenial, I deeply admire this very culture and would consider it in many ways the most beautiful, rich and inspiring way of living and being that I have come across.
@verirrteskamel
@verirrteskamel 15 часов назад
Not sure if you'll see this, but maybe someone else will stumble across this answer and find it useful. I'd interpret the take in this video as valid, but only to the large-scale movement itself and not on an individual level. Those hippies that 'survived' have done so because they weren't following the movement's imploding trajectory. I'm certain you can still call yourself a hippie, live out its core values, and not fall into the contradictions stated here and elsewhere. However, you would need to be aware of yourself as a part of society (even if not the mainstream), of all the systems you oppose or criticise (like consumerism), and the fact that the world you might want to live in might not ever exist, let alone in your lifetime. Identify your role as the inevitable voice of criticism that always exists in any society, with the aim to improve, adjust or change its course, never to escape or completely redefine it but rather etch into it like all the counterculture movements before and after you. And most importantly, never put yourself above society, because you *are* society. I also call myself a hippie, because I am aware of my need to have an identity and a sense of belonging, and because the hippies are the ones fulfilling that need more than any other culture or subculture I have yet encountered.
@lauriniemela4655
@lauriniemela4655 Год назад
I was expecting in the end at least a mention of the yippie culture as well. There's an interesting link, often overlooked, between hippies and the so-called yippies, that is Jerry Rubin. Some of the interviews and debates with him from 72 onwards are absolutely fascinating to watch. He in many ways manifested all the "authentic" traits, being an unbashedly an individualist and counter culture, except that very thing enabled him to shift away from "hippie values" and become an entrepreneur of the self. New age spirituality is still with us today as well, one could say stronger than ever. I tend to think that hippies and the 70's counterculture paradoxically gave rise to the 80's neoliberal era and to the commodification of the self. The cola add is a great example of this "hijacking" process. But it was never really that hippies were immune or able to resist that appropiation, but rather that they unwillingly gave a significant push to new mode of capitalism, self-exploitation of the individual/self, that is.
@BurnigLegionsBlade
@BurnigLegionsBlade Год назад
Hah I knew that you're going to mention Stirner at 1:18+. Great video Hans (if you don't mind being called by your first name haha)
@lynyrdskynyrdtributeband
@lynyrdskynyrdtributeband Год назад
As you will notice from my profile pic is a pair of 1969's Acoustic Control Corp 360 Bass Rigs. I was and still am a hippie. However, hippieism is a spectrum. Based on my experience, it was about being a "Free Thinker" don't "Trust the Establishment" which is a 180 degrees from modern day hippies. Most of us loved our Country and Constitution and even supported the troops in Vietnam, but we were against The War, which time has proven us right. We as humans want to box everything and unfortunately the minority radicals colored the majority. It truly was about Peace, Love and Rock & Roll.
@DavidFraser007
@DavidFraser007 Год назад
I was born in 1958, too young to be a hippy and with a father and his friends who hated the 60s , so I was caught between the intolerance of the older generation and hippies who talked what I thought was nonsense whilst high on drugs. The funny thing was my Grandparents and their generation were quite laid back about it. My Gran liked pop music and danced around the kitchen to the radio, she loved the Beatles, the Kinks, Procol Harum and many more groups and singers. She even got my Grandad to grow long sideburns, which everybody admired, apart from my parents. I liked rock music, but rolled my eyes at John Lennon interviews. Watching Top of the Pops in our house ended up in arguments, it was impossible to watch it. But I also disliked music and movies from the 1950s. There were many things I liked about 1970s culture in the UK, but I was glad when the 1980s came along. I was quite surprised when I was stationed in Munster in the early 1980s with the British Army, there was still was what looked like a hippy culture. Even back then we thought they looked a bit quaint. I think it was the Blue House pub where they hung out.
@felixxx21039
@felixxx21039 Год назад
That sitting in the field gave me real zizek vibes love it!
@johnramsko4535
@johnramsko4535 Год назад
Note how if you decide to not see non-conformity as a "pure" concept, but as a specific historic call to a certain type of culture that was dominant at the time, his analysis of non-conformity to be "circular" or ultimately "contradictory" doesn't work anymore. It's ultimately for the reader to decide if they want to focus on the "inherent contradiction of hippie culture" by deciding to view them in this narrow/pure form, or in a proper historic fashion to see them as a reaction towards certain qualities of their time and then to analyze in the specific the previous and after state of culture to then make a judgement on what we can learn from it, or what we like going forward. There were no representatives of hippie culture, as it wasn't uniform, so I think such "genealogies" most often end up more personal than neutral and can often boil down to nothing but personal preference. That it was almost "canonicalized" in some way through media/market-narratives and made into a new conformity, needn't either be "evidence" for any "failure" or "inherent contradiction" in the movement, it could just be a tragic outcome for example, surely we don't consider all historic movements that failed to fullfill their promise in full to have been "utter failures". I think it's hard to miss that Mueller with his moderate centralism is critical of the hippie movement, I think that's about all this video tells us. To then look for "contradictions" in what you don't like post-hoc, sure you can do that, but is this a personal battle that other people should join and that actually leads to something good, or is it just some form of collective resentment. Getting more and more the impression Mueller largely attracts a community of resentment and much like Zizek it seems to me to be very one-trick. When you think you have found a toolchain that works for everything you want, more than not you are actually not a discoverer of new worthwhile knowledge and instead just a personal project to justify your own personal opinions uncritically.
@TheJayman213
@TheJayman213 Год назад
Great video. October Revolution next? ;)
@sigyn27
@sigyn27 Год назад
I don't think they failed. It depends how one looks at it, but they had a huge impact on the Western culture. I wouldn't call that a failure.
@greytoeimp
@greytoeimp Год назад
love the German version of Heroes at the end. something tragic and the language just accentuates it.
@odieseventeen1077
@odieseventeen1077 Год назад
Banger video as always!
@nickcarter4006
@nickcarter4006 11 месяцев назад
As a long time punk wannabe, I've always observed a lot of overlap between the hippie and punk ideologies... insistence on being a social outsider, emphasis on wild appearance, focus on finding the authentic self, but clearly the two are different (and often directly opposed to each other, as cultural tribes.) Perhaps, if hippies were the climax of the drive for authenticity, maybe punks indicate an awareness of profilicity and therefore represent a transition: from focusing on authenticity to focusing on profile. It sure seems to me, from my experience, that punks are far more focused on what they project than who they authentically are - although I think this is also true of hippies, at least in the age that I live in. "You end up not dressing natural, but dressing like a hippie" - the same conundrum is ever present in punk culture, you can only find your authentic self through emulating those who came before you, and you have to conform to the style of those around you in order to find acceptance... among those who claim to be free of social status. Non-conformity becoems the new conformity, and if that's not true in punk then I ain't no god damn punk.
@nickcarter4006
@nickcarter4006 11 месяцев назад
Alternatively, punk is just a second generation of an archetype started by the hippies, and continued ad nauseum by metal heads, hip-hop heads, EDM heads, ravers, on into the post-music era where we now identify with TikTok and RU-vid stars rather than music movements.
@AnonosaurusRex1
@AnonosaurusRex1 Год назад
11:00 "In or out" seems like a false dichotomy. I see it as a Ven diagram (Hair, Drugs, Fashion, Music, Romanticism, Spirituality). Also, in the Woodstock movie there is a young man Critiquing the event quite insightfully.
@marceldequeker6696
@marceldequeker6696 Год назад
awesome
@sealedindictment
@sealedindictment Год назад
22:04 “the quest was futile but we cherish the experience”
@roryprice4369
@roryprice4369 Год назад
Does anyone know how to spell the German word for conformist that he says at 15:11 ? Sounds a bit like "Schpeesil" Thanks
@thomask.9850
@thomask.9850 Год назад
Spießer or Spiesser .
@roryprice4369
@roryprice4369 Год назад
@@thomask.9850 Danke!
@ext1013
@ext1013 Год назад
i think the better word is the hippies grew up, there did not fade away.
@throatgorge2
@throatgorge2 Год назад
"but that's the topic of another video." yeah, that's one I'm very interested in. Texas stayed very hippy for a very long time so back when I was young all the hippies I smoked weed with were also getting into punk too.
@skrubzilla4213
@skrubzilla4213 10 месяцев назад
Come to Liberty Park in Salt Lake City on a summer Sunday and you'll see us there. Follow the sounds of the Drums.
@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811
@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811 10 месяцев назад
Does it matter what I wear or just that I'm there?
@skrubzilla4213
@skrubzilla4213 10 месяцев назад
@@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811 lol come through.
@jean-marcknight8816
@jean-marcknight8816 8 месяцев назад
12:15 "Everybody in this room is wearing a uniform. Don't kid yourself." - Frank Zappa to a bunch of hippies on "Burnt Weeny Sandwich" 1970
@joshparrott8841
@joshparrott8841 Год назад
"the truth is out there" - Slavoj Zizek: sublime object of ideology
@mr.pastry779
@mr.pastry779 6 месяцев назад
I've been looking for hippy material from the latter end of 1965 but never find anything
@thesjewishpsychedelicsandbox
The may be gone, but their spirit lives on in the Wook
@Robertmayer-wh4yt
@Robertmayer-wh4yt 8 месяцев назад
Genuine continued hippie... Dropped out to Haight Ashbury... Feel sorry for youngsters missed what's real... Paid costs other than obvious... Self-defined social outsider: THANX EXPLAINS ALL!
@TuvalMusicOfficial
@TuvalMusicOfficial 2 месяца назад
What confuses me is personally, I can see the naivety/ contradiction of the hippie ideology and am not attracted to the idea of having to confirm to the so called rules of the "non conformists". yet my favourite music that sparks the flame in me is the 60s psychedelic music (and modern psychedelic) embraced by the hippies, I find the style and colour of the fashion and art enchanting, and I value nature, love, peace and compassion above most other things. Where does this leave me? I'm also sober in recovery. What always puzzled me about the counterculture that if you're so natural and in touch with nature and your authentic self, why do you need copious amounts of drugs as a requirement? Theres nothing more natural and in tune with nature then not altering the brain chemistry chemically.. Would be interested to hear if anyone has any thoughts on these musings haha. Somehow I do consider myself a bit of a hippie even tho i often dont fit in with it.
@user-dj6hu9gq4t
@user-dj6hu9gq4t 8 месяцев назад
H.I.P.P.I.E. It means happy individual permanently pursuing intense enlightenment. We are still here. ✌️
@CapnSnackbeard
@CapnSnackbeard Год назад
This is what my friends and I are doing now. Building houses, raising animals, growing food. Voting once every two years and recycling isn't enough. Protesting isn't enough. If humans want different, they must do different.
@otto_jk
@otto_jk Год назад
What makes you so sure that you have escaped the simulacrum by simply living a rustic lifestyle? Voting every two years and recycling sure isn't enough, but what is? There's never enough, one can always do something more. The death of god was followed by the death of sincerity and it was followed by the death of authenticity. It's profiles all the way down baby!
@CapnSnackbeard
@CapnSnackbeard Год назад
@@otto_jk because we are building a self-replicating, diasporating, non-hierarchical, organizational structure that operates using real resources in the real world to teach people how to live outside of that system, and under radar. We use the electric grid, but we don't need it. We buy food with money, but we need neither of them. We build tools that build tools. Creating a real-world critter that duplicates itself, houses and feeds itself, and can survive in the dystopia as well as the apocalypse. We will be cockroaches. Or we can dream about refoming the democrats. At this late date, for me, only one of these options seem practical.
@otto_jk
@otto_jk Год назад
@@CapnSnackbeard I'd rather be a human than a cockroach and live instead of survive. By trying to escape from a system you are just creating a new system. It's like an infinite onion no matter how many layers one peels theres always a new system there. You may prefer your system rather than the old system, but philosophically there's no difference when it comes to authenticity, you are simulating a fictitious rural lifestyle that never existed thus being a copy without an original. I'm not American your politics don't mean much to me one way or the other.
@CapnSnackbeard
@CapnSnackbeard Год назад
@@otto_jk of course we are creating a new system. Is the goal systemless existence? What we are also doing is we are feeding ourselves. Where does the food you eat come from? Your notion of what is real is odd. It seems to me worshipping the hyperreal during the death rattles of Late Stage Capitalism is a risky bet. Will systemlessness suffice for you when this one stops serving?
@Torgrim11
@Torgrim11 Год назад
This video is looking a little bit superficial on the surface. What exactly is the difference to the 1980s? Instead of one style, it splits up, but at the core most of the prominent people becoming what is today called liberals. Some are becoming right wing. Wasn't this just a breakdown of pre war society? Western societies controlled the world markets and some of the wealth was invested into education and infrastructure. The demand for academics in industry and government made university for a middle class possible. The resulting contradictions in societies caused some protests. But some symptoms like the opinion of an individual is property of the said individual began to surface. Critique became a war against the individual. As the quotes in the video showed the uniformity of fashion is very visible. The antagonism between the red east and free west was nothing else than the choice of style in the east was not that great, while in the west the franchises dictated the style resulting in the 1990s into the mass robbery of Nike shoes by children to raise their self esteem. The idea the 1960s were different from the 1980s after 200years of capitalism is not quite comprehensible. What changed was technology. Clothes became now mass manufactured in the Americas or Asia. Profilcity is in the first place the attempt of the individual to adapt to forms of communication. It is a phenomenon of capitalism which has already made an abstraction from human as citizens, employees and politicians. The human is not longer an individual.
@joaoboechat7637
@joaoboechat7637 Год назад
Do a video on Adorno!!!
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