Zeus sees literally any living creature walking around, minding its own business Zeus: *"THERE ARE NO WORDS ON GODS GREEN EARTH THAT CAN DESCRIBE HOW SPECTACULAR ERECT I AM!"*
I wish gamology would explain to the people reacting what the game is about. I wanna see their reaction to Adam and Eve being the first Humans and how the Mythologies are the "ones that came before"
Yeah it would be nice if they got like a quick debrief of what they are about to see. I’ve noticed it with other videos where alot of experts react go in blind and dont really understand what a game is about and misinterpreted some aspects.
In gamology’s defense it wouldn’t be a genuine reaction if they did tell them stuff. Yea it would clear things up but their reaction wouldn’t be 100% so it’s give and take.
@@ryankirkpatrick3771 perhaps because the one on the right is influenced by its excited identity and does not take into account the ancient culture or the laws that were in force at that time, against such a free identity, if they had had to talk about ``some of quest`` the two would have quarreled
Loved this video. I just wish they showed the “fake Minotaur” of Leiandros to contrast with the one shown in this video. Would have been fun to see their reaction.
Fun fact: The mythological creatures from AC Odyssey are in fact, abominations created by Project Olympus, an attempt from the Isu ( aka Those Who Came Before ) to harness and control the evolutive properties of the Apples of Eden.
Yes, they're basically here to create game hype, more than historical accuracy at anything. It would have been more interesting to have them react to the settings, the places, the political/historical figures etc. Everyone knows that the boss fights, weapons and armors in AC games are not accurate, they've never been and the devs never pretended they were.
Gamology, you know this means we want them to basically react to every assassins creed game if possible lol. Its nice to see historians react and give there opinion on one of the best history games franchise there is
Maybe a little bit downhill after the ezio saga, or the one who simulate him in animus (i can't remember his name, it's been so long after my last gameplay)
Being an avid fan of Classic Civilizations, I absolutely LOVED this react. Both of them have a really great chemistry and understand the mythology aspect and the fact that it's just a game. From the little details to the full on historical details and myths, it was amazing! If any of them know about Egyptian Mythology and Ancient Egypt a reaction to AC Origins would be neat!
Main Errors : The Λ was not adopted and standartised to every spartan shield till the Peloponnesean war . The spartans didnt call their city Lakedaimonia but the whole region of Sparta from the area of Lakonia , the city was called Sparta by them and the rest of the world . Thermopylae is located near the North Evoian Bay (and at that time compared to now it was even nearer which is why the path was narrow and used by the Spartans in the first place , so what you see is a sea where the Persians land their ships , not a river/lake . The army of Xerxes in Thermopylae was not 1 million(thats an exaggerated myth) but 180000-300000 . Ephialtes was not deformed nor a spartan but from the land of Malis , a region in the borders of Thessaly at the time . Also not a single comment was made for the vambraces that everyone seems to wear in the game . Are we sure that these guys are historians and didnt just saw 300 and said yes now I am qualified to spread my knowledge to the world??
well spoke brother .also they didnt comment about how Leonidas throw his shield on the the battle of Thermopolis intro and how important is the shield on the the greek warfare. no Greek threw his shield unless he dies they also critisized very like mocking Herodotus writing. The father of history... Maybe i didnt understand correctly what he said about him amazons werent greek women were scythians originaly tribes that contact with hellenic world and some of them hellenized and had greek names by settle on greek populated areas like Anatolia, Pontus , Thrace , Lesbos island the guy that said he played the game said that the first civilazation artifacts are form the early bronze age people... yeah sure historian...
Probably a little late, but they also talked about the incorrect version of Medusa’s story. In the correct story, Medusa was always a gorgon, and was eventually killed by Perseus. The version where Athena turned Medusa into a gorgon is a version written by (I forgot his name) to spite Greece because he was kicked out, so he wrote stories insulting the Greek Gods
If I'm remembering correctly, I'm pretty sure when Leonidas went to the Oracle he was actually told something along the lines that in order for Greece to be free (or to achieve victory) a King had to die or something similar along those lines.
According to Herodotus yes, Because I’m the Spartan oligarchy there were two kings, one as head of government while the other could act as general in war, meaning if one was lucky enough to have a warriors death then the political vaccum they left wouldn’t be so dire
Love seeing these two talk about everything, the history, scenery and accuracy of some things in Assassin's Creed, would love to see that with the other games Edit: wish they had shown the Steropes boss fight right after would've been funny
I remember getting most of my history lessons from playing the old Assassin's Creed games. It's great to see that historians are finally doing their reactions about it 😂
I expected a Skallagrim-level meltdown at the lack of phalanxes and Leonidas literally throwing his shield away, breaking formation, and performing wu-shu spear dancing against his foes. These two clearly had other concerns. :-P
greek here actually we greeks have a lot of similarities in the looks and traditions from the middle east because we lived there for almost 2000 years we are more similar to them than the europeans
The Spartans didn't have Lambdas on their shields in 480 BC. This practice originated with the Perioikoi in the 420s BC and was subsequently copied by the Homoioi. Ephialtes being a deformed Spartan exile is purely a creation of the graphic novel and film 300.
"Was there a river in Thermopylae?" The battle took place on a narrow coastal path in Thermopylae called "The Hot Gates", so no, there wasn't a river, it was the Mediterranean sea. Something you would expect a historian reviewing a game that takes place in ancient Greece to know.
Appreciate this new perspective with historians and mythology experts! They seem really dark on the actual details/context of the scenes they watch, but still, lots of cool insight! Also as a request, PLEASE bring back some martial artists to take a look at Sifu! The game drops on February 8th. We don't get many games primarily focused on martial arts, and I'd love to see Gemma, Noah, or RJ check it out!
Love these react videos, just wish they showed more of the actual history and characters involved in the peloponnesian war to see the experts reactions (for example King Archidamus, Brasidas, Alkibiades, Perikles, etc). But it's still a pretty great video! ;)
Okay, though fictional, I want to explain something about the First Civilization, which in some other games is known as the Precursor Civilizations. They were a race of god-like beings that were on this planet before any of us, and was the most advanced civilization of all time, including even inventing laser shields. Unfortunately, the fall came when the sun screwed up their inventions basically, and a lot of the cryptic warnings was about a similar event happening again. Adam and Eve, if you go by what was said in the Assassin's Creed 2, were slaves essentially to this civilization..something like that, may have to look that one up again. But yeah..wish they'd do a game specifically on them, but the games just get so vague about them, and that's all we have..
For being historians these guys can actually piece together the mythological stuff from the ac games really good! Especially that one guy assuming the pieces of Eden came from an earlier civilization! Great vid 👏
Just realized that guy played the game too 😂😅 still, great job explaining things to the other guy who wasn’t as informed, especially the cultists and stuff
Some points for anyone wandering: Thermopylae was actually at the coast of the Greek world so the "river" was actually the gulf of Malis. The Greco-Persian wars didn't entirly set up for the peloponessian wars. A common mistake is the misunderstanding between the first and second Peloponnesian wars whcih sandwiched the Greco-Persian wars. There was actually a peace treaty that was signed between the Peloponnesian states and the attik area within at the beginning of the Greco-Persian wars. Ephialtes wasn't kicked out of Sparta. This is another misconception that stems from the movie 300. He was a local man from trachis (where the persians set up camp). Everything else from the mythology parts seemed right but these are just things i randomly picked up
I'm at around 230 hours, spent around 180 on my first playthrough getting the good ending, and now on my second trying to be as much of an a**hole as I can so I can get the worst ending. Been wanting to chill in the Discovery Tour and learn all about ancient Greece, but always got distracted by the game itself.
One thing I would like to point out in the cinematic for the battle of Thermopylae, during the part when Leonidas gets overwhelmed by the Persians, the arrows would not penetrate his chest armor so cleanly, it would take a lot more than that
Finally getting historians to react to AC but you choose the most fantasy one lol. I’m not complaining but I was hoping for Unity honestly since I’m biased towards it.
Pretty sure the entire Athena (or Minerva as Ovid wrote) punishing Medusa with her being turned into a monster is written down by Ovid and thus more part of Roman mythology than Greek.
I Hope they read this, there waas a missinformation here, Athena cursing medusa with her body is of Roman writers to discredit her (same as erechne) in Greek mythology and Greek sources Medusa always looked liek this, she even had two sisters who looked like her.
I was hoping you'd show them the actually historically accurate stuff. I don't need experts to go "yup the Minotaur was a myth and not real." Let them discuss the day to day life of the background of the game.
There is a river at Thermopylae, but what irks me as a geologist & geographer is the entire scene is fantastical. The landscape is a lot less rough and you actually have a stretch of farmland decently wide sandwiched between marshy coast and smooth hills.
Yes, accuracy in a video game about two secret orders fighting down through the ages for the fate of the world using ancient, highly advanced technology from a lost civilization… there’s good accuracy and there’s pointless accuracy, which do you think this series applies too?
These guys are a joke, Spartans didn't throw off children down the cliff, just because they were weak. To this day nobody found children's bones down the cliff. Only Adult bones. Also the story they told about Medusa being the victim was made by a Roman years after Rome conquered Greece, because he felt sad about her, so making her look hideous is fine.
Yeah, Spartans just handed off children to Spartan warriors to be "trained" (read raped) as a part of the agoge, since Spartan warriors weren't allowed to get married until they were 30.
This game has several different stories to follow. There is one with the war. There's one where you meet Xerxes brother (DLC). There's the mythical aspect to it. There's the family part of it. In the political part of it, Alkibiades , Aristophanes, Brasidas, even Herodotos and Sokrates (and so many more)... I wish you guys had concentrated on that storyline with it LOL. There's A LOT going on.
Great reaction I loved this! A great idea would be historians react to Hades, absolutely love everything about Hades. Although it might be kinda difficult on what to show the historians exactly.
"They made her really ugly, of course they did"... uhm... they made her look evil and dangerous but they didn't make her ugly. I really liked that part of the design because you can still see the beautiful woman she was before but it also undeniably communicates the monster she is now.
Greek mythology is my favorite real world religious stuff because it just seems more... Real in many ways. Not so much how the gods came into being with some of them just being ocean ball juice or popping out of people's heads and weird stuff like that, but the portrayal of the gods as being very human like with flaws and insecurities and jealousy and punishing whimsically based on their anger, etc. It just feels very human of them, which I enjoy. Then you have things like Christianity where absolutely nothing makes sense. It is full of contradictions and nonsense that make no sense, especially when done by a supposedly all knowing god. You can really tell from the narratives woven in the bible they were all made up by men of the era and focused on things men of the era cared about and saw. Not to mention being amalgamations of multiple other religions and their stories baked into it, and adapting more things as history went on. Modern christianity is nothing like it was originally, having adopted so many additional pagan beliefs and practices and holidays especially. It just feels like a poorly written book meant for kids to try to teach what the author thinks are good morals. But the greek stuff all seems plausible. Zeus is horny and goes around having sex with women because that is exactly what some men would do if they had super powers. Even modern wealthy men have special contacts for sleeping with all sorts of different women, everything from prostitution to sex trafficking. Hera being mad as hell about all the bastards her husband kept making and wanting to murder them all, that is true to life, especially for that time period where women were INTENSELY jealous and hating of their spouse's kids that weren't theirs. And their stories make a lot more sense because they ARENT omniscient and they ARENT omnipotent, so if they make mistakes it makes sense. Unlike Christian god that supposedly knows everything but oops, created lucifer, created pride, gave him too much of it, knew he'd betray him and fall but did it anyway because.... Reasons? And then oops threw a tree in the garden of eden and said "dont touch it!" knowing that they would, like who the fuck does that? That is dickish behavior that makes no sense from a supposedly loving entity. Then everything that happened after adam and eve really doesn't matter at all until you get to Noah and his Ark because god apparently just decided the world had become too sinful (by the way, should've seen this coming and also made them that way..) and decided to murder everyone on earth except one family who then had to incestuously repopulate. So if god is all knowing and all powerful, why didn't he just START with Noah? Why even have a rough draft version 1 that he ends up erasing because he would've known how it ended. It's all just so stupid that, much like modern movies and tv shows, ridiculous and nonsensical things have to occur purely to justify the existence of the plot. But anyway. Greek Mythology has always been my favorite because the gods are powerful, but not omnipotent, wise, but not omniscient, and they behave in very human-like ways. It's easy to visualize and imagine the various greek myths actually happening and could actually work in sort of a modern real world setting without "breaking anything". You could think of them like Marvel Super Heroes more or less, just a handful of people with super powers that exist in an otherwise unchanged world. Then you look over at shit like Hindu where its like "yeah, the earth is flat and is being carried through space on elephants and turtles" and you're like :| yeah okay buddy. The only part of the mythology that doesn't sit well with me is all the weirdness with how some gods were created and some of them alien-style chest bursting out of each other and weird shit like that, but as far as religions go, it is the most plausible of them all.
This game is absolutely fantastic! Amazing story and characters and I love how they weave the Isu stuff into Alexios’ story during the Peloponesian war. Having some parts with Leonidas was super cool too!
Why do you show these historians reacting to the mythological aspects of the game? We would benefit more from their insight over the culture and visual details in the game.
if they are talking about real ancient greek culture they are obligated to say that kassandra is out of historical context as is free sexual behavior, this is not in favor of the politically correct agenda
Isn't the quote from the cave "and the cyclops dashed the men's skulls against the rock like puppies..."? I remember being a child and thinking, dam, that's cool ;)
Should see if you have them see the Assassins Creed from the first game. There’s a lot of historical figures and places in the original triad with their companion games. Not to mention Black flag with pirate history and lore.
The minotaur was THE HARDEST BOSS FIGHT in all of AC history, it took me 2 days of banging my keyboard to bring this monster down, last time I was that frustrated, I was fighting a level 1 boss in DARKSOULS 3!
``return with the shield or on it``, the shield was called a hoplon, hence the name Hoplite, no soldier would have thrown it away, it would have been a shame a sacrilege
The first civilization were called "The Isu", they had advanced tech also they had a sense of time a bit like Casandra from Greek mythology where she had the ability to predict the future. However, while having advanced physiology, they lacked empathy and prone to making evil decisions. There were some who were good and corrupted. I will not go into detail so as yo not spoil it for anyone.
Cool video. I wish they would’ve showed them Herodotus around where they were showing the combat. I would love to see this on all of the games. I think Unity did the best job
2:42 I wish they would’ve let the historians watch the whole scene for context first so that they would get that the cultists were making the Pythia say out of pocket stuff
Some inside baseball: Ubisoft not only took pains to bring a bunch of the history to this game, but they also hired many Greek v/o and PCAP performers to do the voices and performances of the characters. They continue this trend in Valhalla by hiring Scandanavian actors. Good eggs over there at Ubisoft.
2:25 About Masks in Sparta; Masks hung in temples, like the temple of Artemis Orthia were there to remind young Spartans of the ugliness of failure and was a life-long duty to avoid. These Cultist masks remind me of that.
The monsters were more of a sidequest. The actual game proper, you hunt down the cultists, exterminate them to the last man, reunite your family, and have lots of adventures along the way. The "prior civilization" is less of a Greek thing, more of an AC lore thing. Basically the gods were real, but they're just advanced aliens. (The mythical figures you fight are humans corrupted by their tech.)
and no one even asks why a man died falling from the Taygetus, but not the children, one of which is a newborn, it's the most absurd and unreal thing I've seen in the game
There is a lot of the war in the game you just chose the four mythological beasts you fight to react to. Also the reason he's taking parts of the beasts is because the mythological beasts are explained as being precursor/isu constructs designed to protect artifacts with great power (it's all part of the assassin's creed lore as the the isu are an ancient race with advanced technology that went extinct but were viewed as gods to early humans)
I stumbled upon this video because I looked at the preview and wondered aloud, "what the hell is Jay from Red Letter Media doing on this vid talking about history and video games" lol. BUT...luckily, this video ended up super interesting and now I have subbed! :D
Umm we don't say malaka all the time 😶 Im from Greece and the characters from mythology is pretty much close 😊 Not the part with alexios 😬 The part with Leonidas they didn't done it right He said to Herxes μολόν λαβέ And the wife of Leonidas said to him Defeated u will come on top of the sheild or Winner under the sheild she said it like that but is defrerent how we say it in Greece 🙂
I never actually the knew the Cyclops in the game were actual cyclops in mythology, so when he listed off Argos and Steropes after Brontes was surprising
Love It, Assassins Creed bring mithology and science fiction for human históry, Glad to see that the experts became interested for the plot, Hope that they dont be desapointed with the Isu lore influencing the human mitology
I don't consider odyssey as an ac game but I have honestly enjoyed it as an rpg set in greece. I'm an rpg nerd so it doesn't really bother me how bloated this game is for stuff to do
EPHIALTES WAS NOT SPARTAN! He was a local from Malis who knew of the path and thought betraying the greek position would make for some easy money. The Delphian Amphiktyones put a bounty on him for the Betrayal and Athinadis of Trachina was the one who killed him.
why they were shown almost only the things about mythology and legends? why didn't they show them freaking athen reconstructed?? i crazed away when you get maieuthicized by socrates the first time you meet him! that's what i want an historian to comment, not the fantasy aspects of the game!
exactly, the scene of the Taygetus is a lie, as it is a lie that a Spartan woman, (supposed to be the daughter of a king) opposed the law of Sparta, making that whining, is unthinkable
there are many things missing from this that the historians would have know if they watched the whole game instead of just clips, like with medusa. she knows how to fight because she is indeed, an amazon here. the curse gets pass down to different victims who become the vessel and this one in particular was an amazon. And Kassandra/Alexios go to different islands because the Peloponnesian conflict is not the only adventure/quest they embark into, that is why we see them in Crete. It is disappointing that they only reacted to the mythological aspect and not the actual historical figures we see like Socrates
