Historical and Biblical Arguments for the Papacy (w/ Trent Horn) 

I was an atheist, then eclectic agnostic, then occultist /mystery religion/ new age spirutality dude, then God opened my eyes to the truth of good and evil, and the pure goodness of life and death of Jesus. Then i gravitated to Protestans and then Calvinist because of John Macarthur and his great speeches, but after learning allot from Jimmy Akins site and books and listening to Catholic Answer i just can't deny Catohlicism is the way annymore. :) PS btw is was raised Catholic so it was a full circle back home lol

I am 21 in RCIA right now, and am graduating from college soon, and I just have to say that seeing someone else my age doing similar investigations into the legitimacy of Catholic claims is so refreshing. Love your videos!

I’m a convert to Catholicism. I used to be evangelical. It was a very difficult transition due to anti-Catholic relatives. I appreciate your search for truth. Trent Horn is very helpful!

I am a Catholic, following Austin since the day I discovered the channel. Impressed by a protestant openness in exploring. I love the Orthodox church tour. Thank you Austin. Hope you will share your faith journey too

Austin, you have so much of my respect for how charitable you are.

You dropped this 👑... king of an ecumenical attitude

I see the name TRENT anywhere I just tap it lol

WOW! Another home run hit out of the park! Your interview skills are top notch, especially being able to keep pace with Trent Horn. I love being a Patreon subscriber and getting early viewings of great videos like this. This one, by far, is my favorite. Thank you for this! And thank you to Trent Horn for letting the Holy Spirit use you to guide so many of us, myself included, into the Catholic faith through your books, radio programs, podcasts and debates. You are both such a blessing!

Another great point made by Catholicism I found fascinating was the claim that Christ overcame the enemy of Israel Pagan Rome by establishing His Church there and turning a pagan nation into one who worships the God of Israel. That's a really solid and true argument. He was truly victorious in His death and resurrection.

If only more Catholics be like you, bringing the intellect down to your heart.

As Catholic, I respect and admire your communication, your respect and genuine interest.

I love how you are open to exploring Catholicism...and I hope you become a Catholic ♥️

Try to get on Brant Pitre, pH.d, author of at least three books on the OT and Jewish precedents of the Papacy, The Eucharist, and the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Next up: Scott Hahn

Austin, I am a young man discerning the Latin Rite Catholic Priesthood(only will be offering the Tridentine Mass) I am here for your journey and love your channel and unbias, humble search of the truths of Christianity. One day I hope you come home to the Roman Apostolic see. God bless brother

Austin, I would love to see Steve Ray in your channel. May God and the Holy Spirit guide you to this journey to the Truth and the Catholic Church.

I can see God working in your soul Austin. It would be wonderful to have you in the fullness of faith. God is watching over you in your journey. God bless.

I'm a Catholic and a follower of this channel since I saw your video touring to a beautiful Catholic church in Chicago ❤️

Wow Austin, you defiantly got a heavy hitter with Trent Horn. I cant wait to see this episode

This was so awesome! Thank you Austin and Trent!!! Sharing!

Hey Austin, Protestant here very interested in discussing the papacy. I live in central IL - I've got a lot of friends at Moody! Awesome work, great to see a guy my age faithfully and respectably discussing this with someone as intellectually skilled as Horn. Really enjoyed this conversation man, you've got a new watcher!

Bravo, Austin! Thank you for having this interview. You rock!

Yayyyy Blessings all around. I was psyched when I saw you were interview Trent, he is so awesome God bless y'all

FINALLY! I have waited so long for this videoo. God bless brother

Literally was listening to Trent's newest podcast... looked up your youtube channel... and saw that you were currently live with Matt Fradd and caught the end of it. SO RAD. Hahaha! I'm a cradle Catholic with many many nondenominational friends and I'm so grateful for public conversations like these. Happy to follow along. Thank you for this! Praying for you!

The name change concept (e.g. Abram, Jacob, et al) -> had not even occurred to me. Wow 😀

Brilliant as expected from Trent, and also yourself Austin. Great work! Thank you both. It's a shame though there wasn't enough time for Trent to answer the 300 questions! I could have listened all night. 🙂 Take care and God bless. 🙏

Can't wait to listen, Trent horn is the best and it will be so cool to see the dialogue!!

I’m so happy you’ve reached a point where you can attract a Trent Horn. It was really insightful!

One of the things that stood out to me at a protestant before I became Catholic was Christ's prayer for unity in the church. I saw the relative unity of the Catholic Church compared to the myriad denominations and even churches within my own denomination and even members of my own congregation. Not that everyone in Catholicism agrees on everything but we do agree on what we may not disagree on

Shocks me that you only have 10k subscribers! Your content is awesome,keep it up!

Wow, really looking forward to this! Trent Horn is such a brilliant and kind man. I've been thoroughly enjoying your content, thank you for your efforts!

You don’t disappoint with all this amazing content !

Austin! Thanks for this episode. Your humility to dialogue and be open stands out to me. God can do so much with simple humble souls! Peace be with you!

This is a great interview! Thank you Austin!

This interview is knowledge pack and I learn many things... Thank you Austin

Thanks Austin🙏👍 Trent Horn, brilliant brilliant apologist👍👍👍

Glory to God for the time and energy to invest in thoughtful conversations. Glory to God for the apostolic church! Their Holy Traditions give life and hope to the world! However, it gives life and hope through practice. In experience. In tradition and community. And what hurts my heart is that my Catholic family don't have the gifts of prayer, fasting, and almsgiving that my Orthodox conversion has provided. God bless your journey. I enjoy watching it. God will give you what your heart and mind yearns for: the perfect union of Truth and Love. If you're brave enough to embrace it. ☦️ God bless you and keep you!

I love how you reply to many comments! I really appreciate your work, keep doing what you are doing.

Oh I loved this, this was amazing. I think i already knew about most of the things Trent brought up (as a relatively new Catholic), but I enjoyed the format and listening to a discussion or interview that is not being done in a hostile manner. Regardless, you do protestants a favour Austin, I sort of feel like maybe we can discuss things without one side having their heads chopped of, when listening to this and that there is hope after all. Thank you for that and for inviting Trent I really like that guy. Now, next up you should invite Jimmy Akin :D -- he is a nerd like me.

I'm running so fast for this!

Thank you both! ❤️

This is good man, I will pray for you my dear Brother!

Austin, you're on a roll! Keep going!

Also just remembered this is my birthday... 😂😂😂 What better gift... GS talking with a famous Catholic apologist... But for real what more could I wish for???

Really enjoyed this. Watching from Philippines

Oh heck yes I seriously can’t wait for this one!!

Wow! This was fantastic! I would love to see Trent come on again... :D and Fr. Danial Dozer!

Amazing explanation of papacy ....thank you

Dude you are awesome for this talk with Trent Horn. I appreciate you to the max for this. I really hope to see more videos like these. Great topic by the way. Thank you Austin 👍

Will have to watch this one again!

I really enjoyed this interview...thank you! I was one of those people that had your video's show up on my feed when you went to the Latin Mass! Since then I have been drawn in to your journey. I have to say...I have seen this story before...and the more you educate yourself...and the more arguments you hash out...you are going to come to the same conclusion as Dr. Scott Hahn, Kimberly Hahn, Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples, Steve Ray, Dr. Peter Kreeff, Dr. David Anders, etc...and soon we will be adding Austin's name to the list! May I welcome you home early...because you are well on your way! 🌷

Austin, you are becoming my model in the way you gently throw questions on the subject you believe you disagreed, which is very amazing. I started to appreciate Jesus'wisdom to place his successor on earth for His Church.

I listened to this whole thing on my smart tv on RU-vid, for some reason it did not show the video but only the audio, I’m now seeing there was a video. I will probably watch it now and hear it a second time. Good stuff. I’m a recent convert to Catholicism. Trent is like a Catholic rockstar! I’m enjoying your channel too Austin. Thanks God Bless.

Such a good interview, thank you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Great job austin , you have something special here

I would love to see a video about Eastern Catholicism, especially with you Austin. You ask great questions and are incredibly respectful. Looking forward to all your future videos. Keep up the great work!

I have been looking forward to this since I heard about it

Love this episode and God bless your honesty and bravery Austin.

Excellent video! Thanks so much!

Regardless, you're channel is on fire 🔥 you are a non-stop

I will keep you in my prayers

Interesting to hear your viewer mix. I think for many of us Catholics, Orthodox, and Eastern Catholics, it is fascinating to basically watch you go through the same conversation we went through. I think you will bring many with you to the historical true faith.

I am a traditional catholic. I love your channel.. May God bless you all ways as you continue on your good journey of sharing information .🙏 ✝️ ♥️

Trent Horn is Popular so I'm not surprise te see this Video with 19 commercial ads. 😁😁😁

I can’t wait to watch two of you guys talking about catholicism so that I can learn more about my faith. Catholic church it has the fullness of truth, founded by God Himself

Wow. Good to see Trent . Thank you brother.

Trent Horn, Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples, everybody at Catholic Answers filled in the dots for me, which completed my journey to the Holy Catholic Church. Thank you guys! Oremus!

Awesome dialogue!

This is a GREAT interview! You should interview Steve Ray, Tim Staples & Scott Hann next.

Thank you for this Austin!

Great discussion important questions intelligent answers this is really good thank you and God bless you both

So bummed I missed this live. 🥺

As a Catholic I have to say this was a great interview. I recently started getting interested in the defence of the faith and doing a bit of work on that with non-Catholic friends and of course in the current situation the Pope and papacy is a hot topic. So this is really helpful in that regard. Thank you both🙂

Absolutely awesome!!!!! Great Job!!!

Excellent explanation. I believe Austin is on his way home. Austin God bless you, Church is waiting for you likewise all our separate brothers and sisters

Your audience is awesome sir!

Firstly, thank you for having Trent on, and thank you Trent for being on. Now for my grievance and other things I would like to add. I wish Trent made more Patristic connections here, but of course, we can spend all day doing that. Take the thing about all the Apostles getting the Keys but Peter in a special manner, this is discussed by Pope Leo in Sermon 3 & 4 where he sets Peter up as a prototype for all people (clerics) but he is specifically Peter being the Shepherd of Shepherds. That Peter confirms the others. Take the issue of who is the Rock in Matthew 16. No one, not a single Father distinguished between the Rock in Peter. No Syriac Father does absolutely (see Cyril Benni's book on the Apostolic traditions and Robert Murray's book on the Symbols of the Kingdom) See John Chrysostom on this in Homily 54 of Matthew and Homily 3 on Acts. That Peter is the rock via his confession, it is always both. Augustine even says this and fine-tunes it in his retractations. I also wish he touched on the Epistemic substantial issue, especially compared to the Eastern Orthodox. That what you have Prima Facie in Scripture is a Governance with an Epistemic nature to rule. You have the College (Apostles) and then the Head of said College (Peter), so when it is asked "Does this reflect the modern Papacy" it's a yes and no. In anything that Develops it gets more smoothed out in its application and discussion. A deeper meditation on the Mystery and Teaching. I always like to think of it as a Ball of Dough. The dough is the same but you take it to its goal, so it's the same but not. We see that the same Substanial Government is set up, so then why does it change? This needs justifying, If there is a College with a Head in the Early Church witnessed by Scripture then it would logically and fittingly continue. With the Eastern Orthodox, it changes to just a College, and with most Protestants, it's just no College. Here we then face an Epistemic issue (Trent touched on briefly) That we have all these definitive things, but no definitive application. The last thing I wish was touched on more is "First among Equals" is such an oxymoronic statement it has to be said. 'First among Equals" is exactly what we teach! In Vatican I Pius IX said, "It is just not the Pope who is the Church but the Pope in accordance with the Bishops". The Pope is Equal as he is in the College, but First as it's Head. The Body must always listen to it's Head. In a grouping, you cannot have a First who is equal in all manners or it becomes not a FIrst, so by the very accusation of a First, we admit the premise that there is some who is Prime or "Supra-" someone else, or a group of others. Due to this admission then you have prerogatives of the First lacking in others. If all have the same prerogatives then there is no First. In history we can see this in the Patriarchs, how does the First differentiate itself from the others? Seems to be by a special jurisdiction the no other has. Of course, this takes justifying and I think it can be best done by historical proofing, but this is already too long. I believe what echoes this so well is how John Chrysostom describes the Apostles as coryphaeus and singles out Peter sort of as THE coryphaeus. Dom John Chapman goes over this beautifully in his book on the Papacy. In Short, one must have a distinction to be First and only the Catholic Church makes that Distinction, even though Greeks through history tried to give this to Constantinople. Thanks for reading! Hope this helps!

Hey Austin! Thx a lot for your videos! I love the concept of an open-minded protestant interviewing other christians. I like the videos on catholic faith, but the ones on orthodoxy too since I'm "on both sides" (here greek catholic from France ;) ) I'm praying for you and your channel!

Realy realy Nice ! Thanks so much!

Dr. Brant pitre is on the way

Love trent horn!!

Love your content. God bless 🙏🏻

God bless you Austin

I love hearing how the RU-vid algorithm accidentally blew up your channel in Catholic and Orthodox spheres

Trent is the perfect apologist to just make his argument and "drop the mic"

Amazing interview. I'm so proud to be a Catholic. May God bless you and your work.

Can’t wait

This reminded me of the joy it is to be Catholic!

Hope you see my comment soon as I love your content and would love to hear from you! I wanted to ask if you had heard of the Maronites. They’re a religious entity that has existed since 300AD and they are in many ways the last major bastion of Christianity in the Middle East, most especially in Lebanon. If you haven’t you should definitely look into them, and in tandem I’d highly recommend visiting Saint Sharbel Maronite Catholic Church in Illinois if you’re ever up for a road trip. Hope this will be fruitful to your journey, God bless!

Hello good sir, this is the first I am seeing of you channel and wanted to say I appreciate your openness on your journey. I myself am a convert to the Catholic faith, but my journey had a couple stops along the way. I basically went from culturally Mormon, to devoutly Mormon, to Calvinistic Evengelical, then to Catholicism. If you, or really anyone would like to talk about my journey or any questions about/difficulties with Catholicism, I am more than happy to chat.

Thanks for this. Love to see Brother Trent. Thank you Trent for explaining Papal Infallibility according to The Sacred Scripture n Catechism.

Thank you Austin for this video! That was really interesting, learned a lot, didn’t know that even in our Supreme Court there is one of the nine that is the Chief Supreme Court Justice. That seems most logical to me.

Hi Austin, great video! I'm curious, what from this interview most impacted your view of the papacy?

Great video!

Austin, God bless you on your journey and reward you richly for the love and mutual respect you share with all your guests. Forgive me for asking, but...why so many advertisements? Please consider the impact it has on your viewers’ ability to hear and absorb the discussions. Maybe this was unintentional?

Congratulations on another good episode with a great speaker. I like how you allow the person to speak and make their point without continual interruption. This shows you are a thoughtful person and seek the truth. As far as the primacy of Peter, this is not only in the Gospel of Matthew, but in John 21: 15-17 Jesus gives Peter the chance to affirm him three times after denying him three times. He also tells Peter to "Feed my lambs", "Tend my flock", and "Feed my sheep". No other apostle was told this. As far as Papal Infallibility, we don't think a person is automatically a saint because they were elected Pope. Also, unlike the Dalai Lama, we don't think the Pope is somehow the reincarnation of Christ. Or unlike the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt, or how the Japanese emperor used to be regarded, we don't believe him to be a living god. As Mr. Horn points out, over the centuries there have been Popes who were terrible human beings. There are probably some Popes burning in Hell and deservedly so. However, as bad a people as they were, they never corrupted the dogma of the church. They never said Jesus was just a man, that he never rose from the dead etc. Thus no matter how corrupt the person holding the office of Pope, the office itself was preserved from error.

Excellent interview. Do Tim Staples next.

Great Talk!

Love Trent!!!!!! I am also a convert❤