Historical Naval Wargaming Kit Demo (US Naval War College Museum) 

If you think about it, a DnD-style pen-and-paper game makes the most sense as a wargame, since it allows a lot more flexibility than a standard wargame. It's fairly brilliant.

@@PitterPatter20 Indeed! Though with the resources of these wargames they apparently had entire support staffs for number crunching. Would love to have that as a DM.

The creators of DnD played wargames but wanted something similar on the individual level. Thus over the years they built Dungeons and Dragons.

@@InvictaHistory wargaming on land, could that also available?

@@aruthorcarly they did this one, plus a podcast about it that's also posted on the RU-vid channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--seIA9tukDs.html

That's awesome! Cool to hear about all this behind the scenes wargaming

@@ryankerper3289 By the Admiral

I don't wanna pray to a cruiser now

@@Hammadz-li thats heresy

@@carso1500 says to emperor?lol the first thing i probably will do after leaving wheel chare is burn the inquisition to ground

@@Hammadz-li yeah man i feel you, that entire universe needs to burn to the ground, but it's fun

yep! love it! so navy commanders are basically nerds in disguise.

"Alright, that's 2d8 doubled to the dreadnaught's munitions deck +5, and a percentage die roll less than or equal to 30 for secondary fire spread."

Glad you enjoyed it. Great channel by the way, loved watching your Teebia battle. If you guys want I can put you in touch with the museum and war college.

Yes please

Have you ever heard of the game Harpoon? Check it out it’s a great game and very in depth. I believe it was used at the naval college but of course I’m sure the stats that we get aren’t quite the same for craft and weapon systems.

It's called Tabletop Miniature Wargaming.

Jane's fleet command

@@vaele723 what games tho? Like which rule set

Wargamevault has a lot of different naval rule sets. Maybe you can find a similar one on there. You gotta make or get your auxiliary items for a lot of miniature wargames though.

The audio may be a hair off since I had to align two different devices for audio and video.

The majority of high level command training, think majors and above, battalion command and above, and practical command and control exercises are mostly wargaming. The work of officers and staff officiers in the field is also mostly calculations and paper work. I remember reading about a military history professor teaching at military academy experience of incorporating strategic level wargaming into the curriculum; the result was astounding. He pointed out that once you force students into trying to solve a strategic problem with the historical ends, ways, and mean, suddenly what we found to be stupid and disastrous decisions made perfect sense. His examples were failed ancient Athenians invasion of Sicily (idle historians would said: it's a bad idea. 70% of wargamers invaded Sicily in that scenario to secure a food supply for the war). The American Civil war was decided on the wargaming table and real life, in the West (supplies, again). People who wargamed the seminal tragedy that led to WWI walked out shaking their heads: they did exactly what the German, Russian, French, British, and Austrian heads of states were doing.

@@InvictaHistory That's what clapboards are for. Or you can just clap your hands in front of the camera.

Qiaho Liu I have Rome TW and naval battles are so annoying bc there is no strategy, it’s all simulated.

@@akshatthakur6167 y TW naval battles are far from realistic, i always blamed it on the fact that the maps are way to small for proper naval battles.

@@greenfox3010 napoleon wasn't that bad, I mean, yeah it was a bit bugged, awkward and chaotic, but wasn't bad

@@AJTHAxx I really enjoyed it

@@akshatthakur6167 There were no naval battles in RTW -- and yes , naval battles prior to gunpowder was chaotic but there was still strategy. And wargames are simulations so I don't know what you mean.

1963.....

Blows up in the missile silo

"Your weapons officer slips on lands on his ass, and as he goes down, he accidentally hits the launch command for a missile currently in a closed silo. Your missile silos take 2d10 explosive damage."

Get a copy of Fletcher Pratt's naval game. I'm sure this game drew heavily on Pratt's, although there will be differences in detail, of course. Or, if you want something simpler, get a used copy of Avalon Hill's _Jutland._

@@michaelsommers2356 thanks a bunches good internet goer.

they have done that in the past. just watch the first video. there they even mentioned it.

I've been asking that for weeks now. He gave some excuse that he has been busy. You know like making vids on glorifying tax funded navy board games

Unfortunately we do not. If you have a copy to donate, please let me know ;-)

_"... it sounds like a by-hand strike at a paper target, ..."_ That's basically how the artillery in H.G. Wells' _Little Wars_ (1913) worked: You used toy cannon that fired actual projectiles, which knocked over the enemy's toy soldiers.

There are numerous naval wargames available for purchase, and the commercially available ones are often more detailed. Depending on what era you wish to wargame, there are different titles. 'Harpoon' is a fairly current/modern one, recently released in a Fifth edition. Similar rules set with 'Command At Sea' for WW2. I quite like 'General Quarters 3' from Old Dominion Gameworks for WW2 as it's a good balance of usability and simulation, plus a lot of extra detail & variety that can be optionally added. There are numerous others for various wars and eras. You'll generally need to get miniatures or card flats for the ships separately from various possible places but the buy-in isn't as expensive as some other tabletop wargames can be since there is little to no terrain required for naval battles. Just the rules, a few ships, tape measure, and printing whatever ship forms and turn template that comes with the game rules (or protractor if specified instead). Definitely recommend getting the rules in physical format, or printing them off, for easier referencing at the table.

Don't worry, I think they're adding it as DLC.

@@TheChappa paradox interactive style

Oh yes. The US army and navy both. The army called them "map exercises" because they thought that "war game" might sound a little frivolous to the taxpayers. Not sure what the navy called their equivalent.

@@sotros1 I remember the MAPEX's from my time in the CAV, but wasn't sure if they were used in conjunction with ongoing military operations as the Germans did in France.

Yes of course. USNWC had some fairly advanced games, and Fred Janes game comes to mind.

@@schlirf Interesting. TDY. I didn't know that the Germans used their system operationally. I do recall that a running German war game became useful during the American attacks towards the Huertgen forest, in November '44. The exercise happened to be simulating pretty much what the Americans actually were doing, and the results of the game, continually fed back to the commanders on the ground, were said to have greatly improved German decision making and shortened reaction time. My impression has been that this degree of utility was somewhat unexpected. But there's no reason the Germans couldn't have used their system in other situations, given the right conditions. Do you know of any others? As to an equivalent American use of their own system, I just don't know. There were sand-table dioramas, sculpted in clay, which were intended to familiarize amphibious assult forces with the appearance of the coastline they were attacking, but I don't think there was any simulation involved. And, since the Western Allies were mostly on the strategic offensive, they may not have had the time or opportunity to set up a "game board" for a particular zone they intended to attack.

The British also used wargaming to help with in real time decision making in the Atlantic during ww2.

Good catch, that was a mistake on my part. Some of the d20s in our collection do have 1-10 printed twice while others have 1-20. I'm not aware that the Navy tried to standardize the dice for these kits - they probably just bought whatever was available at the time. At any rate, I obviously didn't notice that I had grabbed the wrong one when we shot this segment.

I noticed that as well. I thought it was odd to see a 'modern' d20 rather than an icosahedral d10 in a set from the 60's. This article from Zenopus would seem to imply that true 1-20 numbered dice didn't appear in the D&D world until the early 80's. zenopusarchives.blogspot.com/2017/04/marked-20-sided-die.html Wonder if someone like Jon Peterson might have some more detailed information on how that evolution occurred

The grid was there to give the coordinates of the ships, not to regulate movement. Movement was analog: if your ship was going 16 knots at 23 degrees, you moved 2.5 inches in that direction (or whatever the scale was).