Imho the joker is a bit too overused, taking away the spotlight from other great Batman villains.Sure Joker might be Batman’s best villain, but Batman is known for having the best rouges gallery of all time and that can’t be just because of the joker.(scarecrow, deathstroke, penguin, Deadshot, killer croc, Clayface, bane, etc)
yeah wish they would dip into the rogues gallery a bit more. would love to see deathstroke get more time and maybe more obscure villains like the ventriloquist in movies and TV
I don't like how the New 52 turned him from a sympathetic villain who just wanted to save his wife to an obsessive creep. It just ruined an underrated character. I hope they'll fix that at some point in Rebirth.
Mr. Freeze was possibly my all time favorite Batman villain. He did it for love. There's something magically powerful about good men who do evil, romantic deeds for love. Like cryogenically freezing his wife and breaking all moral and ethical boundaries in the hope of bringing her back to life. That sort of love is eternal, like a rose that never dies.
Yea except it is revealed your partner actually used you (no matter how) whilst telling you he/she loves you for the whole relationship, to then for example reveal that "he/she can not imagine you two to spend time together without having sex" Betrayal kills love
Agreed. Mr. Freeze is not completely different from Darth Vader in Star Wars. Both characters did terrible things to try to save their wives, but it had the opposite effect and ruined their lives both physically and mentally. I hold a great deal of sympathy for Mr. Freeze and Darth Vader.
@@planatano_ Anakin Skywalker was a jedi knight. but then his desire to save his wife, Padme, was manipulated by Palpatine to turn him into Darth Vader.
While Mr. Freeze is one of my favorite Batman villains, I can't help but think his super villainy could be put to an end if Batman just told him he was Bruce Wayne and helped him with his research. Just fund the damn invalids research on curing his diseased wife and stop kicking his ass.
Well to be fair in some arcs he did save Victor's wife using his company. Never told him who he was but he did save her but vengeance never dies and years later Mr. Freeze came back and was angry about something else.
I love Scott Snyder, but New 52 Mr. Freeze's origin is the worst thing I've ever seen. It turns this beautifully tragic story of a man doing everything in his power to save his wife and still failing to Victor being an obsessive, creepy, necrophiliac who has fallen in love with the frozen body of a woman who could be his grandmother. I hope that they bring the original origin back because that drive to save the one he loves is why I love Victor.
This is the guy that cut off Jokers face and made him toss HQ into a basement of dead ex-Harley Quinn's despite the fact her real name is Harleen Quinzel, so I'm not sure how that's supposed to work. This man clearly had issues with Timm/Dini.
I mean, I've met the man. He seems well enough. Though, you're probably right. No. Definitely right. It's a shame that one of the best Batman villains has to suffer for it though.
@@samuelwilliams1619 He did? Funnily enough, I met Scott at a signing for ASB and Metal. I should've asked him about it there. Thanks for letting me know, I look forward to reading through ASB.
Did the chemicals lower or increase his body temperature? It would make more sense for it to be increased, which would explain why he needs to be in a freezing temperature to survive... I think that's how it was in that Batman Beyond episode.
Lower. He's basically Jack Frost where he has to stay cold or suffer for it like he can run around in a Hawaiian shirt and shorts if he's in the arctic since it's cold all around, but he needs the suit to basically maintain a cold environment while out in normal temps, hence his jail cell always being cold and even the ridiculous lair in Batman and Robin being icy and cold. In Batman Beyond, his cloned body was basically failing/reverting so the lady scientist said fuck it and increased the temp in his room to just kill him while his last suit was just a more powerful version of his classic suit.
Every crime he commits is to get something to help make a cure for his wife, either money to fund his research for a cure for his wife, equipment for said research or ingredients for said cure.
Very ICE video, this gave me CHILLS down my spine. Sorry that there are SNOW many puns but they are really COOL. ICE-talavista, baby. -Mr Freeze, Arnold Schwarzenegger
Jeez, imagine if the Animated Series never created the new origin for Mr. Freeze and we'd still have the Silver Age version. Essentially the Batman & Robin Arnold Schwarzenegger Freeze with the ice-puns without the Nora backstory.
Why did they change Mr. Freeze's origin from a husband whose supervillain motivation is to cure his dying wife to a creep who wants to cure a woman he barely knows personally
Mr.Freeze is one of my favorite Batman villains, he’s not just a sympathetic character, thanks to writer Paul Dini, but I always found him to be the most sci-fi with his cryogenic suit to his weapons.
Doesn't Deadshot do a buncha crazy evil stuff just to be with his daughter? Like Freeze does crazy evil stuff for his wife? Maybe it's different because Deadshot's more of a dick. But yeah, nearly all Super Villains or just Villains have a tragic backstory that makes it seem like they're screwing reality's morals because they're mad, hurt, or doing it for a justified reason. Most of a these idiots just need a hug. And a pair of handcuffs. And possibly the electric chair.
I'm almost into tears seeing how Nora in the comic was "smiling" going into the chamber. Not so much that she was happy to go in, but she trusted Victor with her life. They really loved one another. "Will you stay with me while I sleep?" "I will never leave your side." Heartbreaking.
Should also watch Batman Beyond which brought a nice and sad conclusion to Victoes Fries' life. Was just an awesome episode with Batman Vs Mr.Freeze and Villain on Villain fight scene.
I say that Paul Dini deserves a lot of credit for re-introducing the character to DC. Not to mention that Mike Mignola designed the look for the character in The Animated Series as well. The character of Mr. Freeze is among my favorite Batman villains. But I will say this though when it came to Arnold Schwarzenegger's take on the character in the disastrous Batman & Robin movie, that 'they' just didn't explore his backstory more than what was seen, and that the 'too many' ice-puns were among the many criticisms towards that awful movie. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have included Mr. Freeze in the Batman films of the 90s since he was still a 'new' character at the time.
I am not fan of how they changed his origin in the Batman 2004 show I love the show though the only thing I Don’t like About the show is they changed MR freezes origin and they changed pretty much everyone else’s origin
DC needs to have Victor Freeze on the Big Screen again because I really feel like he is an important character that Fans can connect with on an emotional and human level.
Fun fact: the villain Man Bat, commits crime for very similar reasons that Mr.Freeze does, but instead of trying to get a cure for his wife, he is trying to get a cure for him self, and commits basically the same crimes as freeze does, such as robbing banks for research money, from labs for equipment and chemicals.
If they ever make a 4th Nolan batman it should be with Robin (Blake) trying to fill the boots of batman and trying his best to prevent Gotham from falling into depression/hopelessness/despair since bane left it in ruins. The main theme would be hope, with robin hoping he can be as good as batman and trying to prevent people from giving up as well as preventing himself from giving up. The 3rd film already takes place during winter, which I think is more than enough foreshadowing. The villain would be Mr freeze trying to turn Gotham into a place overrun by depression, suicide and hopelessness as he wants to project the misery he feels onto others and get revenge for the pain society has caused him. He would be born with a condition that causes him to overheat uncomfortably and uncontrollably all the time, with constantly red skin and heavy breathing he was made fun of at school and work, he could also maybe have Aspergers (high functioning autism/autism without any learning disability or cognitive impairment), which would give him social awkwardness, bizarre posture, possible development of depression and anxiety, a lack of empathy (on the surface but deep down there is more empathy than the average person, it is just expressed poorly.), little ability to form friendships, one-sided conversations, intense absorption in a special interest, clumsy movements and a dead and monotone voice. The special interest being becoming a doctor so he can one day cure his condition for himself and others as he understands the lifelong misery that comes with it. He would also have strict parents, meaning until he met his wife not a single person really loved him or saw him as a man with human emotions. He would go on to work at a terrible medical company that uses inmates from Arkham asylum as test subjects and produces medicine as an expensive privilege to be sold for a profit as much as 10x as much as the production cost. After developing a suit to regulate his temperature by covering his skin in a mild, diluted dose of a freezing substance he would be told to stop work on it due to his condition being so rare that manufacture of the suits is not profitable. His wife would also have become sick with dementia and so he would spend as much of his free time as possible working for a cure and with her, the only other human who he ever loved, and who ever loved him. After begging his superiors to let him keep the suit for free as reward for the ground-breaking new technology he has developed he has a meltdown, trashing the entire laboratory, stealing the suit and being fired from his job as well as being hunted down by the police. After fleeing from his job he turns to crime to get enough money to continue his research in secret, as he can't get a real job or he will be caught, and finds crime also allows him to express his misery and pain onto others without any consequence. He modifies his suit to allow him to project a concentrated dose of his freezing substance from his suit. Once exposed to skin, the freezing substance passes through it and freezes everything, skin, muscle, organs, blood, and is also being circulated through the entire body via the circulatory system. His victims are then completely paralysed from it, and since the substance can't be washed off them due to passing through the skin, they have no choice but to slowly freeze to death in absolutely miserable agony. It can be compared to a sort of freezing napalm, with napalm being considered one of the most horrific possible causes of death. Edit: I actually only knew a little about Mr freeze before writing this, such as the fact he has a dying wife, so it was funny seeing how similar the official backstory is to my made up one. 6:31-6:45 would 100% be in this new movie.
You forgot about Legends Of The Dark Knight: Snow. Still I don't see that as a bad thing I just thought you might mention it. I still love your History Of Mr.Freeze. Keep making videos, man.
because Gotham sucks now that they jumped the shark with all the supervillains while Batman is still a pre-teen. They should have just stuck with the mob and made it a cop drama with Jim Gordon trying to break of the crime syndicates.
Love the animated series Mr. Freeze backstory better. This backstory made Mr. Freeze' s crimes and actions relatable AND made him more of a tragic character, than a villain.
Both the Batman villains Mr.Freeze, Man-Bat as well as the Spider-Man villain The Lizard, all share very similar backstories and motives for their crimes: All three of them were scientists who had something bad happened themselves (In Mr.Freeze’s case himself and his wife), that messed with their body, and commit crimes in hopes of making a cure to save them (in Mr.Freeze’s case his wife), and the hero takes pity on them keep trying to convince them that crime isn’t the only way to help them, and they all try their hardest to not put people in harms way, and their crimes are usually robbing banks and labs or kidnaping scientists, and they would all stop their life of crime if they obtain the cure.
I always thought Orlando Bloom would make an excellent Mr. freeze. I feel as though he can exercise that elegance and coldhearted-ness in a beautiful simultaneous fashion
I feel the comic adaptations screw up Mr Freeze, just to different degrees (heh). The animated series is my favorite portrayal. Having him specialize singularly in cryogenics brings up the question of why you'd be upset at the cryogenics person doing cryogenics. Or heck, how he managed to alter his own biology, or how he made the freeze ray, or the suit. The animated series didn't reveal much, and therefore you can make more inferences. Imagine if he instead focused on sustaining life, whether through life support, modification or suspended animation. Consider the chemicals that altered him, those are not part of simple cryogenics research, those are mutagens. He was likely trying to find a cure for Nora. Then when the accident happened, he focused primarily on cryogenics.
Did D.C. Rebirth change Freeze's backstory to the original, good version or are they still pushing Snyder's new 52 version? I'm with Arris, I love Scott Snyder but I felt changing Freeze's backstory kind of ruined the entire emotional appeal of the character. He just became another generic madman.
But in the gotham tv series its more depressing u know.His wife refused to be put on cryogenics and then his wife died.Overwhelmed with guilt he tried to kill himself with the cryogenic solution from his freeze gun but then he used the wrong solution,he used his wife's cryogenics solution making him immortal.
Aries: it made him basically immortal Victor in Batman Beyond: *actively wishes death to visit him already * Well, probably most realistic immortality right there
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One of my all-time favourite lines from Batman the Animated Series: Bats: Freeze! (ordering the then unidentified perpetrators to stop) Victor: That's Mr. Freeze to you. =)
I actually liked the new 52 origins of mr freeze. The fact that he fell in love with the first woman ever to be cryogenically frozen and he never actually knew her was a crazy eye opening plot twist.
