[OUTDATED (slightly?)] HIT OR MISS PATCH? | 2.4 Pull Value Analysis - Honkai: Star Rail 

🔴 Yes, sorry, the dreamers didn’t dream correctly 😭😭. It is not Black Swan, rather it is Sparkle on the second half. And honestly, it’s better, so go ahead and pull for her, you won’t regret it.

Rip Jiaoqiu.. when he first released, i was considering pulling him.. i never would've predicted the waves of nerfs

Sorry Jiaoque, Black Swan is the nihility I'm taking home 🏡

I want to see Jiaoqiu supporting Hook. He has permanent Burn DoT for Hook to deal more damage & generate more energy. It also makes building Hook much easier as she no longer have to go for EHR.

They nerfed Jiaoqu because 1. He’s male 2. He’s male and his best dps partner is a waifu, thus waifu lovers would hate that their waifu’s best support is a male 3. He’s male

definitely gonna be going for huohuo as i skipped her banner before lmao, im on guaranteed so its a win

Honestly, I have no clue why they nerfed Jiaoqiu so hard, if Hoyo wanted to make money, making him Acheron's best support would've made a lot of sales, but no, all the nerfs came. (Random theory, but did they drop him because Firefly's banner ended up making more sales than Acheron? And then they decided to go for a break effect meta since Feixiao is supposedly tied to break, and Lingsha is leaked to be an amazing sustain for break teams?)

I have a hypercarry team, a FuA team, and a breakness team. That's why Black Swan is all I need for the DoT team since I don't have a single one of them. Wish me luck for her's pulls, guys.

BLACK SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN I WILL GET U HOME WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT. MY ACHERON CAN WAIT FOR JIAOQIU

hsr making limited 5*s tailor made for other limited 5*s is crazy

I am pulling Yunli no matter what

The fact I was going to break f2p for Jiaoqiu but i saw the massive nerfs so I'm just going to pull for Black Swan

- Yunli is great and all but you don't need her if you have Clara and March/Lynx. If you are still fixated, just pull her LC for Clara for the taunt - Huo Huo have great cleanse, but CC(s) and Speed Debuff will still affect your allies. Plus we have Lingsha in 2.5 who has AoE cleanse, follow up atk, can reduce toughness, is skill point neutral and have emergency heal - JiaoQiu is 5 stars Guinaifen at this point, he works the best with Acheron but only in Pure Fiction not really great for MoC or AS. You can use Universal Market LC on Preservation character for alternative - Black Swan is a must if you are building DoT team. She has def shred in her kit too for Acheron

That masked fool will come home.

jiaoqiu is a massive victim of the nerfs.. even when he initially released he wasn't that massive of an upgrade of pela, he was good for a 5 star and could replace pela, but nowdays he's probably not that worth it to roll unless your acheron is massively struggling yunli on the other hand has gotten buffed as of V5 and looks really good (if you can time her counters properly that is) which makes her probably one of the strongest dps'es in the game now that I think about it

I’m going for e1/e2 s1 jiao qiu (e0, e1, light cone, e2 is my order) even if they keep nerfing him just because I love his design and animations so much I don’t even have Acheron but I just want him because he’s so cute and I need supports

Yay, Huohuo’s coming back! I mostly started the game because of her 🥰

Yunli's release might become an indirect buff to clara considering the similar playstyle. That's if counter fua become part of the meta. We've already seen it with firefly and himeko tho that was also mostly because of harmony tb and the superbreak meta.

Feels like they want to make more middle of the road characters for now. Acheron, Firefly and Ruan Mei in particular were mistakes, kinda like the situation with genshins 1.0 4-stars that were so absurdly busted that they're still meta to this very day.

Looks like we're not getting BS this time.

imma try pulling JQ only, if i lose the rate off then i'll save my jades for another char like Acheron rerun..might as well E2 her if possible & stick with either SW/Pela

Despite of the nerfs, I am still going to pull for Jiaoqiu. He still provides more stacks despite of the trigger limit in pf compare to using only Pela/Guinaifen/SW. Also helps that I have S1 Aventurine. I think going hyperfast Jiaoqiu with er rope and vonwaqc will be the go-to build, which is how I will build him. The faster he is, the sooner he can get his next ult which resets the trigger limit.

i need people to stop comparing every dps to firefly and acheron because if they arent better they're automatically bad to 99% of people

Waiting for feixao and lingsha

I was thinking about pulling for jade but I need black swan and huo huo. So jade has to wait.

i want Black Swan for Kafka. Im already farming all the stuff she needs.

As someone who enjoys both huohuo and sparkle I am screwed....need to choose between one of them 😂 cauae i have neither currently on my account I have super strong dps characters like kafka, firefly, acheron and topaz already. So either huo huo or sparkle is super good for me...meta persons might say sparkle would be much better and I really like sparkle too her character but the thing is ive been waiting for huo huo rerun cause i like her too...so this is a very tough decision for me...😢😢

Huahua is tempting but the 5* Tingyun leaks is the MUST pull for me.

I'm pulling Yunlis LC for my e2 Clara who already has her weapon but Yunlis seems like a really nice upgrade over Clara's LC

Classic hsr economy, Always releasing new characters then putting old characters that synergize with new ones, No pattern on reruns, The only pattern is we are broke

I think I may skip this patch, but I'm tempted to pull for E1 BS+LC because I love her as a character. Unless Yunli and Jiaoqiu are characters I grow to like, I'm skipping those two. And I don't need HuoHuo since I have Aven and Luocha, or Gallagher and Lynx which are both E6. So for now, I don't need any more sustains.

The good news is, you don't need to spend any jades till an amazing 2.5...

Hmm im thinking of either huo huo or blackswan

Hope with my 50pulls to get both hwehwe and yunli

Skipping them all. Waiting for a male buffy character.

didn’t they just say Sparkle the one running with him? I’m not Black Swain

I think Swan might be my target for this patch. I have enough sustainer and shielders and I have a good DPS in FF .

I don’t have kafka but BS Acheron is a pretty solid duo for me, then Gui for a little more dot oomph

Is black swan good with acheron without Kafka?

They had to make jiaoqiu this bad if they want literally any dps they make in the future to be appealing. If he was even v3 strong, the only dps any player would EVER need would be acheron for meta reasons. She just does too much.

I didn’t have enough pulls for Kafka on her rerun but I’ll get BS first

As someone who don't have e6 Gui or Pela, and don't even have one copy of Pearls, and also wanted to use hypercarry Acheron in the future, Jiaoqiu gonna be my next pull

okay now we know that black swan aint in 2.4 but still can you tell whos more f2p without their lcs ?? her or jiaoqui . bc i aint pulling for lcs for none of them , keeping my savings for ratiorine's but i do consider a chance to get support for my acheron

Sorry baby pinkboi Jiao, but mother BlackSwan is coming home with me 😅🙏🏻

For me it's just E0S1 Yunli and then just skip the rest of the Patch depending on how 2.5 Interests me. If 2.5 doesn't interest me then I may either get E1 Huohuo or E1 Blackswan depending on how my Yunli pulls go. Want both Yunli and Jade but gonna prioritize Yunli then Start saving for Jade's Rerun alongside new Characters/3.0

I have to get the light cone for HuoHuo and try to resume from E2 to E6. Skipping 2.4 part 2 as I'm not much of a dot person.

Yes, Yunli LC for my E2 Clara incoming ^^

I'm going to pull Black Swan's LC over Jiaoqiu now since I already have her.

huohuo the only one im considering, though i don't actually need her since I can clear endgame. Very skippable patch for me.

Can that gameplay stop attacking their Jingliu enhanced ultimate on Argenti's SHIELD? IM IRRITATED.

Going for HuoHuo, i need an extra sustain ( my limited sustains are Luocha & Aventurine ).

sadly none of the new characters interest me and i own the rerunned characters, ill probably either save for feixiao or get e1 swan

I want yunli because bare feet but at same time shes too young why they have to do this

I JUST GOT JADE YESTERDAY AND TURNS OUT BLACK SWAN IS RERUNNING????? NAAUUURRRRRRR 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

both reruns are a skip for me. I already have both Huohuo and Sparkle. I even have Sparkle's LC. And both of the new banners are skips too. Yunli is not a big enough upgrade over Argenti for me to justify pulling her. And Jiaoqiu got nerfed so hard that he isn't even worth pulling anymore even for people who have Acheron, and especially for someone like me who has Acheron at E2 and E6 Pela. It would genuinely be more beneficial for my Acheron to get her LC on her rerun instead of Jiaoqiu LMAO.

Shoot I just realise I want all 4 of them I’m cooked with about 110 pulls

is black swan rerunning with jiaoque confirmed ? I NEED HER AND KAFKA WHEN SHE COMES BACK

Huohuo first part of the patch... So sad because I wanted to get eidolon for her but wanted to get E0 Black swan before that and then spend all the remaining for HuoHuo... Can't do that with this order

I was waiting for this! NOW I CAN GET JADE FOR NOW AS DR. VERITAS RATIO ISN’T COMING YET!!

i absolutely NEED black swan to complete my DOT set up, its not even funny

Ima save for black swan then

Finally Huhuo come back home.

IMO the new characters are kinda mid and the reruns are strong but you don't really need them either unless you like dot and since i have Loucha i am skippingthat foxian again, easy skip for me unless dome good 4* are one the banners

umm, should I go for e1 black swan or s1? For DOT premium😢

Jade, Argenti & JQ..... Also, is there any point in getting Huohuo when that new support is coming out in 2.5?

I only have gepard and aventurine as a sustain rn, should I pull Huohuo??

people yall need to wait the new programs and then concider ho to pull. stop beliving in leaks!!

I want yunli E0S1 and Huohuo with 100 pulls and 40 pity and no guarantees It's gonna be a hard patch

I will get black swan cuz i want kafka anyways so easiest decision for me

Full skip. It's either silwerwolf of Acheron lightcone that will make me pull at this point.

Pulling yunli because why not

Should i get BS as a replacement for pela or JQ in acheron team? (i have a kafka too so BS even more value )

Going for yinlin for that fun counter gameplay!

i'm pulling for swan i need her to complete my dot team (i have kafka, ruan mei, and huohuo who i'm currently rebuilding) and jiaoqiu on my alt bc i have acheron there and i want an upgrade bc i don't like having to wait for pela's ult to apply a single crimson knot stack jiaoqiu is the upgrade i need since he debuffs enemies in more ways than 1 i won't go for him on main tho since like i said i have ruan mei

Big miss in terms of new characters, especially when looking at the characters for the patch after.

nooooo, i'm at 50/50 with 30 pity and less than 20 pulls but i need Huohuo and BS, why this game banners hate me so much?

Black swan

I already have aventurine and Gallagher e6, i was planning to get huohuo to complete my dot team, I ain't interested in any character in the 2.4 and possible leak said that in the 2.5 we will have feixao with bs and in the second face lingsha with dr ratio, i already have bs and ratio of course and i ain't interested in the news one too, so i will just save to get robin and acheron in theirs rerun, u guys think its doable or i shouldn't pull for huohuo to guarantee them because i already have enough sustains?

Nothing will stop me from pulling for Yunli ✊✊ people complaining she powercrept Clara but nobody said a word when Aven did it to Gepard..

i dont care that huohuo isnt needed on my account. i friggin love her too cute to not pull

I wonder how Yunli LC would work with Clara

Can u please give me advise? As new player who only have FF, himeko, welt, gepard, ratio, without any 5star sustain only have galagher E6, do i need to pull any character on the next banner? Or keep it until next patch for better banner / re run.

pulling for huohuo bc i got disappointed for jiaoqiu and i don’t want him anymore

if you are a dot dps jiaoqui(E0S1) is still not worth it your better off using sampo or guinaifen thats how bad jiaoqui is for dot(imo)

Hi! I just want to ask for some help here if possible. I played the game a bit in release, but I dropped it and took it again a couple of times. My characters are not very well built as of right now, so I'm trying to improve that, but it's very expensive, so I wanted to know which characters you guys think I should go for. Last banner I got Firefly (e0), Ruan Mei (e0) and Gallagher (e6), so one team I want to make is the Firefly break comp. The other comp I'm more interested to make is the DoT one, as I already have Kafka and I use her a lot. That's why I think Black Swan will be a must next patch. I don't really have too many gems, though, as I lost my 50/50 in Ruan Mei at 90 pity and I got her after like 70 rolls (so 160 rolls total). I literally don't know how to get more stellar jades right now. I do not have any 5★ sustains. Natasha was my main sustain before Gallagher. I've used Fire Trailblazer more than I'd like to admit for preservation units. As for other supports (apart from Ruan Mei and H Trailblazer), I don't have a good Tingyun, but I do have an e4 Bronya and an e2 Welt (which I used to use as more of a carry with Bronya). Which characters do you think I should go for in future banners? And which characters do you think I should build? I don't have Lynx btw. My idea is to skip Huohuo for the upcoming fire abundance character and to try and get Black Swan, but maybe I should just steak to Gallagher for my break team and get Huohuo for my DoT team instead of the new character. I don't know if I'll be able to get enough stellar jade for both Houhuo and Black Swan, though. Maybe I should get some other support for the DoT team and replace Bronya. It's hard, because I spent a lot of resources on Bronya already Thank you in advance (I'm a bit late to the video, so I might repost this comment somewhere else)

I'm contemplating if I should pull for jiaoqiu to complete my acheron team with pela and aventurine or black swan to use her with acheron and start building a dot team at the same time (double benefit). Help me out y'all

Okay so should i bother getting him E0S0? I have E0S1 Acheron and a Kafka/Swan team. It would definitely make pf less of a bother if i put the herta lc on him. But I'm not sure if its worth it over other characters (e1 swan or e1 Lingsha for example)

E1 bs more worth than jiaoqiu😂

don't have Kafka but I might get Black swan for my Acheron since my current Acheron team is Acheron + Aventurine + lvl. 55 Sampo and Guinaifen 💀 (man I seriously need an upgrade for my Acheron team)

I'm struggling in Pure fiction so I was about to get jade. But I think e1 Black swan might be more worth it.

Guys, could you help me, please? What do you think is better? Jiaoqiu E2S1 + Black Swan E0S0 or Jiaoqiu E0S1 + Black Swan E0S1? (I don't have Kafka. I have Acheron E0S1 and Ruan E2S1)

was going for Yunli but i need Black Swan for my Kafka

Bruh with feixiao, I don't know anymore🙁

I already got argenti so i might just might skip All for any healer

just gonna snatch Yunli's lc for Clara

As someone who has Huohuo, Kafka, and Black Swan already, this is going to be a long and dry patch... Already sitting on 300 saved up pulls, this is only going to accumulate even more.

easiest skip patch for me i'm going for the 2.5 patch leak spoilers Fei Xiao (FUA Wind Hunt) and Lingsha (Break Abundance)

not sure if ill pull for yunli but want to try a team of Clara, yunli, robin and aventurine

lol, lmao even

In a DoT team who is more likely to get replaced with another unit in the future?? Kafka or Black Swan?