Hit The Lights (Ron McGovney's Garage Tape, 1982) 

Wrong, dumbass. James was trying to sound like Diamond head.

James learning 😅 already written 3 metallica songs before Dave joined...

@@deletedhero5579 He's speaking of their talent. Mustaine was clearly ahead of the curve as a guitarist.

@@seinfan9 As a lead player maybe But James was more than capable as a rhythm player and wasn't learning here, Lars perhaps was

Seems to me Ron was at a higher level than the rest of the band at the time this tape was made. The rest of them are sloppy as hell but Ron’s just laying it down

Steve Harris

@@johnniehaygood1 no

@@johnniehaygood1 yesss!!agree

Well let's say he was a decent bass player playing tighter than a swiss watch

@@Lynchpin2010 YES!!

A lot of NWOBHM bands had clean guitars at the start, listen to iron maiden soundhouse tapes and Diamond Head and even metal massacre hit the lights Lloyd Grant’s guitar is pretty much clean, which doesn’t matter as much for soloing

Not only the guitar, but the Bass as well. The drums cut through pretty good too. This tape HAD to have been done on a 4 Track (If they were readily available). Even the vocals come through NON DISTORTED.

@@rayjingloryproductions3770 Don't know if 4-track cassette recorders were available back then. I got mine in the early to mid '90s. It sounds like a single mic room recording (I've done enough of those to know how they sound) but it still sounds damn good.

this could have been a mic-ed boom box recording too?

@@SRMoore1178 Yeah, sounds like a "single mike in room recording". If you have reasonable acoustics, and are lucky enough to put it in the right spot then these recording can sound quite good. Yet, they always have that characteristic of the "one mike sound". In the late 1980's - early 1990's VHS camcorders were becoming more common. Often the room sound from one of these recordings was pretty good as they handled the audio better than cheap cassette recorders.

@@markusaurelius777 ye

They may have made a few mistakes to start with...but once these guys got going, there was no stopping them! These songs from this practice tape are something else! Some changes were made later on, of course, but this practice tape gave us all just a teensy little bit of a taste of what was to come! Now, many many icons later... (Whoops! I was starting to channel some 'Crue there! Sorry!), I should say many many years later, this group has grown up and has become the stuff of legends! With well over 125,000,000 albums sold, according to Wapedia (I actually think that the number of Albums sold by Metallica is a lot higher than that, personally)! The moral of the story is:It only takes a spark, to start a raging fire! Metallica has done just that!

@@ronaldshank7589 Its many many "life times" later.

@@ericbrewer2409 Oh! Ok. It's just that I thought that Aliester Fiend, when he was speaking, said the word Icon. My bad.

@@ronaldshank7589 They had that in the lyrics sheet. Although some words don't follow it exactly. With the actor's accent and dictation, its easy to mishear something.

@@ericbrewer2409 I never saw the lyrics sheet to Motley Crue's Shout At The Devil Album. Some groups weren't printing the lyrics to their songs, if I remember correctly. That didn't start happening until after the 1985 P. M. R. C. meetings. After that, everybody had to print lyrics sheets, stating what was being said in the music, and the more objectionable albums had to have an Explicit Lyrics kind of a sticker on their albums. Guess what? It backfired on the P. M. R. C. BIG-TIME! More and more copies of certain albums from certain groups actually sold better with those stickers on them, than those who didn't have to have a sticker of that type on them! Believe it or not, I've actually found more truth in some Metal Songs, than I have in many "Churches," that I've attended in my lifetime. I definitely believe in God and going to Church if you want to, but after all the stuff that I've personally experienced in some of those "Churches"...I think I'll just stay home!😆🤣😆🤣😆

lol

Yeah, this is basically just NWOBHM style. The singing style is 100% NWOBHM and the instruments almost sound funky, a complete lack of aggression.

Slop. Thank God that Kirk made some melodic sense out of that mess when he redid Dave's leads on Kill 'Em All.

@@hinjurock70 ....lol... your one of those guys...

Dave is a little sloppy in spots, especially in the long lead towards the end. And there's no rhythm guitar to fill out the weak spots.

@@rodjohnson3045 "A little sloppy" is a slight understatement 😄

@@hinjurock70 might need to adjust your hearing aid

Jix 33 who is Sean?

Thunderheart Steel Sean Harris from Diamond Head

You can

I have the album

With "METTALLICA"

There is nothing stopping you or anyone from hearing the Metal Massacre version

There is 2 versions

🤣

And risk

If you can’t appreciate st anger then idk what’s wrong... it’s a great ass album

@@JohnnieVega20 since 03 the only reason people dont like the album its the snare sound! Yep it's great like all their albums

:_D

Death Magnetic and Hardwired To Self Destruct were both very bass heavy. Even the two records from the 90s where their jizz was the album art had some decent bass on it. I'll even say that most of their material has solid bass. Master, justice and st. abomination are the only 3 I can think of that were seriously lacking bass

Why they did this? I don't get it. The bass is very important. The bass is the foundation, it's your ground. Why would you make it virtually non-existent? I really don't understand.

​@@CalebePriesterThe reasoning (flawed tho it may be) is that as James and Lars are the driving force and it is primarily a guitar and drum band, that those 2 instruments should be front and centre.

Absolutely. I think there's even a Diamond Head song with a similar title.

Nah he could already play. Interview from Dave. I think it's the recent one from Gibson. He says he was really impressed at how good James actually was at guitar.

@@CM-ng9kv Maybe he could play guitar, but not thrash. Dave is the only one playing on this tape.

@@ericbrewer2409 I didn't say he was playing on this tape. It clearly says hetfield on vocals, mustaine on guitar. Dave didn't teach James, he could already play thrash.

@@ericbrewer2409 hit the lights isn't thrash

@@CM-ng9kv Keep telling yourself that. James was a poser until Dave introduced him to the thrash style. Then they stole Daves riffs to make an album.

definitely james

No

Kirk destroys him.

@@hinjurock70 no

@@hinjurock70 no absolutely not

@@ArturHedlund You clearly know nothing about guitar playing. Dave's leads on early Metallica were nonsensical slop.

@@hinjurock70 he is a much better player overall. He can solo good and make awesome riffs. He id clearly better

I don’t think Lloyd grand ever recorded anything with even with the earliest Metallica. I could be wrong, but through the years of watching countless Metallica interviews, the only involvement he ever had with the band is one live gig with them.

@@invisiblekid7374 Lloyd played a solo on first studio version of Hit the lights, which is on Metal Masscre album.

@@oz1330 ahhh that’s what it was. I knew it was something along those lines. I knew that there was only one mention of him playing guitar with Metallica. They did however have him come up and jam with them at the 30th anniversary shows and he looks like a Rastafarian guy. They played a version of hit the lights with Ron Mcgovney, Lloyd Grant, and Dave Mustaine!

Lil Wayne

james on vocals

AjaxDieTurner Jesus, how old was he at the time? He sounds nothing like himself, his voice has none of the grit of late 80s James.

@@nastylittlecritter at this time he was 19 years old

Doesn’t sound like James at all

I thought it was Dave

Yes with sloppy live solos filled with wah

@@epicmonkey5672 still better than this solos

@@ThePzycho1 yeah overall better sound quality and a lot less rough but still these aren't daves best solos

Ive been listening to both bands for more than 20 years, a big fan of RIP and Dystopia, dave s solos are great but his style couldn't get along with the Metallica songs, especially the ballads and the heavy ones. Hammet did a really great job to make Metallica songs solid

@@ThePzycho1 well the way I view it is we have 2 great bands with their own style and both are cool

Dave played a raw solo by feeling, all Kirk had to do was make it better by perfecting some bits, polishing the thing. Had Dave not been fired he would have done the same. This is just a demo, man. You can't compare a demo made by amateurs in their garage with a finished product made by professional engineers in a professional studio with professional equipment and stuff.

Kirk pretty much pays the same few style of solos on every fuckin metallica song. Did he sell his sole to ymthst stupid wah wah pedal too. What a shame. Been in the game for many many decades, and yet, still the same. Kirk, go to India or China or whoever and learn and grow..

Solo: Usually a temporary, singular lead guitar excursion that showcases not only the particular artist's instrumental/technical prowess but also their ability to build upon and add to the overarching melodic theme and emotional impact of the song itself.

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He didn't play "horribly". He was making it up as he went and it's amazing.

@@CalebePriester Compared to him playing Chosen Ones in 1984 or even this same song in 1983, he's kinda dog shit here. Out of key bends everywhere and sloppy muting and just overall playing when it comes to lead, on rhythm though he's fine.

​@@maplesalt1482 Go listen to the RTL demo tapes. Kirk does the exact same thing, out of key bends, wrong notes, guitar out of tune... It's a demo, dude. Dave was improvising the solo on the fly, the polishing comes later.

@@CalebePriester At the same time Dave played alot better on the No Life 'Til Leather demo and the first Megadeth demo. This was a time when demos were very important in underground metal circles. Has nothing to do with Kirk Hammett that guy was taught by Joe Satriani and doesn't have anything to show for it.

@@maplesalt1482 I was just pointing out that Kirk also did the same things you were complaining about Dave doing. That's normal when you are developing a song, improvising, getting the feel for the song and stuff. It's raw playing and that's what makes it so awesome, because it's spontaneous.