HMS Indefatigable - Guide 116 (Extended)

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The HMS Indefatigable, a razee frigate of the British Royal Navy, is today's subject.
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@Drachinifel 5 лет назад

Pinned post for Q&A :)

@abhijeetsutar5259 5 лет назад

Hey could you please make a video on anti submarine warfare?

@zaqpak9391 5 лет назад

Could you please talk in detail about every ship and landing craft that would have been used in Operation Sea Lion? That would be great!

@warrenlehmkuhleii8472 5 лет назад

If the US went to war with Napoleon and sent the navy to help the British, how would they have preformed in a alternate Battle of Trafalgar?

@Fronzel41 5 лет назад

Would targeting the superstructure of a ship be an effective way to render it combat ineffective? The ship wouldn't sink but could it do much of anything if everything not protected by armor was wrecked?

@Tank50us 5 лет назад

Not really a Drydock question, but would you do a video on the USS Constitution? I'd like to hear how you describe her War of 1812 battles, including her 2v1 fight at the end of the war.

@snakes3425 5 лет назад

HMS Indefatigable (1784): Unstoppable war machine that ate enemy ships for breakfast HMS Indefatigable (1909): Blown to pieces after one hit

@yeetmaximus4856 3 года назад

Seems to be a trend with the Royal Navy

@hionmaiden663 3 года назад

HMS Indefatigable (1944): Blowing others to pieces.

@emadbagheri 2 года назад

"They don't want make them like before" type of thing? Ir maybe the difference was the Capt&crew?

@samlawts1193 2 года назад

@@emadbagheri massive difference in weaponry. Back in 1784, ships were designed to basically pummel each other into submission. Since Cannon balls didn’t explode upon impact, you were unlikely to hit a magazine or a key area and sink a ship in one hit. In 1909, since ammunition was far more destructive, that was more of a possibility.

@emadbagheri 2 года назад

@@samlawts1193 ty

@billbolton 5 лет назад

Those French shipyards must have been working flat out making prizes for Indefatigable.

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

This is not a miracle. The noble french captains or admirals were killed by the french revolutionary freemazons. Viceadmiral Villaret-Joyeuse was a post-captain before the war. There was no educated french officer corps, so in the total the education of french naval forces suffered, and bottled up in harbours, moral was drownded. Additionally Boney made often a bad choice appointing fleet-commanders, he appointed complete losers as Villeneuve. Additionally Boney lacked the technical understanding. So this imperial fool sent Robert Fulton away. And before the Napoleonic wars, there was no real political will to beat Britain. During the war of independence, France and Spain had the opportunity to conquer Britain. Both nation's fleets were superiour against the Royal Navy at this time.

@KroM234 5 лет назад

@@hajoos.8360 You're right, times around the American Revolution saw the British Army and Navy in one of their worst states in their history in my opinion. The Army was spread out too thin in a gigantic becoming empire and was out of supply and recruits poorer than before. Meanwhile the French Navy was at one of its pinacle (the only last one was during the reign of Louis XIV after the late 1660's in my opinion), and the British Navy really struggled in this conflict like they rarely did, probably because of a lack of overhaul strategy.

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

@@KroM234 This is not only your and my opinion. Numbers are obvious. To evalue the history we have to check political intentions. The Brits, incorporated by the RN, followed the real imperial strategy (copied from the Romans) to destroy all enemy forces. Till today, continental forces, at this time the Frenchies and Spaniards, except the admirals Suffren and de Bazán, saw warfare at sea more as a political instrument, as a noble hobby, and comparable to the Germans in WWI and II. The fatal error was to underestimate the brutal atrocity of anglo-american policies of permanent warfare, which was fairly copied from Augustus, who was famous for his pax romana, but who waged permanent war in reality. The big french fleet, which gave the US independence, ruined the french economy, which led to the French revolution with it's well known outcome. What guys as de Grasse never understood was, with a sunk Royal Navy the brit colonies would had become automatically french ones. The deGrasse' made useless enterprises and adventures instead to bottle up the RN in british ports and to kill John Company.

@doug6500 5 лет назад

@@KroM234 The Battle of Saintes gave a sure-fire indication of which way the contest would swing in the coming wars. A vastly underestimated battle.

@KroM234 5 лет назад

@@doug6500 Yeah well, the French Navy was winning on the Indian theater and if you take into account the consequences on land, the Indian theater was close to become a disaster for Britain by the end of the war, while in the Caribbeans, the French Navy maintained a presence, but this area was never a focus. So yes, the British in the Caribbeans most of the time had twice as much heavy ships than the French, but they overcommitted in this area in my opinion, while they were checked in India. I agree with you on Saintes though, it's a painful defeat for France and sets the overhaul naval doctrine for the napoleonic wars I guess.

@isaacshultz8128 4 года назад

"The Frenchman is still a Frenchman whatever mask he chooses to hide behind." Lol

@emadbagheri 2 года назад

..." and we'll beat him, like we have always beat him ..." lol even better

@simonolsen9995 5 лет назад

Great explanation of the Prize System. It throws an entirely fresh light on understanding the incentives to pursuing a naval career in those days. I'd always wondered why otherwise sane men would take on the hardships and risks. Bravo.

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

Since admiral Byng was shot, court-marshalled, on his quarterdeck no British officer dared not to attack. This motivates more than prize-money.

@firestorm165 4 года назад

There's also the "It can't suck any more than this" factor as well. Also the main driving force for defectors of communist regimes

@CorePathway 2 года назад

Have you seen the bar wenches in Bristol? Most men stood a better chance of survival rounding the Horn…

@angrydragonslayer 2 года назад

@@CorePathwaythen look at the wives and know that those who stayed with wenches were lucky

@Nebris Год назад

@@CorePathway 😅😅😅😅

@monochromaticlightsource9153 5 лет назад

The Beatings will continue until morale improves.

@hionmaiden663 3 года назад

Please sir may I have another?

@RadioactiveSherbet 5 лет назад

Horatio Hornblower FTW! Props for using the clip from the TV series.

@taggartlawfirm 5 лет назад

Kurtis Boyer the books are so much better. Though frankly, I prefer Jack Aubrey.

@NoirChat138 5 лет назад

Even a chance

@Hiiiiii74 5 лет назад

That was one of the most British clips I have ever seen

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

@@taggartlawfirm Jackass-frigate Jack is a clever swashbuckler .... Hornblower is a cultivated thinker. Both have nothing to do with Nelson, the profit-taker of Duncan, more with Cochrane and Sidney Smith.

@taggartlawfirm 5 лет назад

HaJo Os. Jack Aubrey modeled his career after Nelson, and had a letter from him. And don’t sell Jack short, admitted he needed a keeper when ashore, but in his later years he learned to love mathematics and astronomy. But yes, Hornblower is a bit wooden. I vastly prefer Aubrey.

@oliver8928 5 лет назад

Notice how all the satire and criticism of the system of naval prize money came from outside the Navy. Within the navy, it was seen as sacred.

@empath69 4 года назад

Yeah; you might ONLY share 1/4 of the prize money with hundreds of your crewmates, but with a good ship, and a canny, aggressive captain, you could become a rich man off an ordinary sailor's prize payouts alone! (just gotta avoid the tropical disease on posting to the Indies, ague from winter blockades in the Channel, splinters and shot during action, enemy swords, pikes and bayonets during boarding, losing your footing aloft, etc. etc. etc. ...

@SephirothRyu 3 года назад

A more civilized system, from a more civilized time.

@Finderskeepers. 3 года назад

Its still law today

@NathanDudani 3 года назад

@@SephirothRyu cIvIliZeD

@Thepancaketoaster 5 лет назад

"Its the Indy!"

@rollosnook 5 лет назад

"Your days of idling are over..."

@pauldrive7243 5 лет назад

"For there is no power on earth that can withstand the might of the British Navy!"

@Gruoldfar 5 лет назад

aaand music!

@jamiengo2343 3 года назад

@@pauldrive7243 “GOD SAVE THE KING!”

@DannyHeywood 5 лет назад

''But with Substantially more French, and substantially less 'Fish People'' - Yeah. if you can tell the difference...

@iskandartaib 3 года назад

I was going to make a comment about "amphibians" but thought better of it.

@sergarlantyrell7847 3 года назад

So what he's saying is that there WERE no fish people (only frogs), so there's no need to guard the chest, and if there were no chest, we wouldn't need to be there to guard it...

@druballard8929 5 лет назад

I love when you do a video on the age of sail. All your videos are excellent but these are a real treat!

@robertf3479 5 лет назад

I wholeheartedly agree!

@ieuanhunt552 5 лет назад

All his videos are great but The Age Of Sail is an oft neglected topic on the channels I frequent. It's a nice change of pace from the WW1 era and onwards that most people focus on.

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

If the French would have had more Suffrens your opinion might differ.

@peterblood50 4 года назад

@@hajoos.8360 Not as long as the prevaling winds and the English blockade kept the French crews from getting the experience they needed to beat the English. English pre-1801 British post-1801

@hajoos.8360 4 года назад

@@peterblood50 Suffren served before the french revolution and he waged war without a real base in the Indian ocean for 2 years, a top performance. It is less a question of seamanship and more a question of attitude. Suffren, unlike his subordinated captains or officers, fought like staying under the same verdict of John Byng as his british opponents did it. And Suffren let fire his artillerie into the british ships, not in their masts. He was more british than Hughes.

@iroscoe 5 лет назад

The difference of total guns might not seem that great between a 64 and 74 but the main (lower) guns on a 64 would have been 24 pounders rather than the 32's mounted on a 74 so the weight of shot was markedly inferior , despite the recognition before the Revolutionary War with France that 64's were no longer really viable ships for the line of Battle not only would existing 64's soldier on into the Napoleonic War some new ones were even added to to the fleet (Agincourt , Ardent , Monmouth , York and Lancaster) not the first time nor probably the last that British sailors would be required to tackle the enemy using obsolescent equipment .

@deeznoots6241 5 лет назад

Edward Corran 64’s were however slightly more manoeuvrable

@JoJeck 5 лет назад

The 64 did have some advantages over larger ships in shallow and confined waters and were useful against enemies in the North Sea and Baltic so the RN still had a use for them. They were used against the Danes and Dutch.

@adamdubin1276 5 лет назад

Yes, but with a skilled captain and crew as well as the fact that the 64 third rates were slightly faster and more maneuverable than a 74, wouldn't they easily be able to make up the difference between themselves and the newer designs?

@Wolfeson28 5 лет назад

@@adamdubin1276 In a one-on-one fight where both ships could maneuver freely, maybe. But in a line-of-battle engagement between two fleets, the 64's advantage in speed and maneuverability wouldn't matter, whereas a 74's extra firepower very much would. As an example, the Indefatigable in its original 64-gun incarnation had a broadside weight of 497 lbs, whereas a contemporary British 74-gun ship's broadside would have been 780-790 lbs (over half again as much). While a 64 with a very well-trained crew might still be able to beat a 74 with a poor crew, it would nonetheless have been a huge disadvantage to overcome. A 64 could also function well as a flagship for a squadron of mostly frigates on an overseas station where there were few (if any) enemy ships of the line to threaten them. Although you could argue that they would be even more effective in that role if they were razeed into heavy frigates first.

@Gruoldfar 5 лет назад

Weren't the french 74's not bigger then the british 74 on top of that?

@kennethdeanmiller7324 2 года назад

What a LEGEND of a ship. It's a shame that the Indefatigable launched in 1909 did not have such a legendary career.

@Halinspark 5 лет назад

Thank you for doing the math for the prize system.

@sawyerawr5783 5 лет назад

"Not unlike that whirlpool battle in Pirates of the Caribbean 3, but with substantially more French and substantially less fish people:" Your humor is possibly the best I've seen.

@taggartlawfirm 5 лет назад

Drach my recollections was that the Spanish ships, as not having been at war when the action took place, were “droits of the Admiralty” as opposed to “droits of the Crown.” The captains received an ex gratia payment (a pittance by comparison) and the treasure was impounded by the govt.

@johnjephcote7636 3 года назад

I like that matelot's prayer about enemy shot being as equally distributed among the officers as would be the prize money.

@1Korlash 5 лет назад

That was a great video. It's really sad that the Droits de l'Homme's crew suffered such a tragic fate. They fought bravely even as the storm was snapping their masts, and they apparently had the good heart to release the prisoners they had on board even as their ship was breaking up. (In fact, one captive English prisoner on board, a Major Pipon, erected an inscribed menhir on the coast in 1840 in remembrance of the lives lost.) I know that's just one of the hazards of sailing, and war is full of such stories, but that doesn't make it less sorrowful. On a slightly different note, since there are plenty of stories of British underdog victories against the French, would you ever make a video about the duel between HMS Ambuscade and MNF Baïonnaise, AKA the only underdog French naval victory against the British in the entirety of the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars? It's a fun fight with facepalm-worthy moments on both sides and it showed clearly that good luck in war only matters if you have the insight to recognize it and the skill to seize it.

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

As in the video mentioned Droits de l'Homme was a failed construction. Her lower gunports could rarely been used even in fair weather. But as always the major mistake was done by the french captain. He had to win luv into the atlantic away from the Brits. And with his draught this should have been no problem.

@sawyerawr5783 5 лет назад

You have intrigued me with this battle: I must read more. and if it is even half as amusing as you say, I'd love to see Drach talk about it in his usual dry wit.

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

@@sawyerawr5783 concerning the Constitution (old ironsides) vid of Drach, the question occurs, whether Razee-constructed ships would have been the better ships of the line or not. 2 or 3 deckers had obviously more drift and slower speed. And stability enforced small calibers on the upper gun-decks.

@AnvilAirsoftTV 5 лет назад

The action with the Spanish treasure fleet is nicely fictionalised in Patrick O’Brians book Post Captain.

@wierdalien1 3 года назад

Going to read post captain

@davidmurphy8190 2 года назад

The whole series of Aubrey-Mathurin books kept me sane while recovering from a minor stroke and injury.

@jimmiller5600 5 лет назад

The Royal Navy -- a shining example of success through free enterprise & profit sharing.

@gyrene_asea4133 5 лет назад

and don't forget conscription!

@diabeticalien3584 5 лет назад

Yeah back when people were abused in factories and slave labor was used in it's colonies. Yes, by the 19th century Britain was against slavery but it's colonies were not for the longest time and the British Government had no issue with that.

@LarS1963 5 лет назад

Hahahaha! Through forced conscription, malnutrition, abuse, coorporal punishment and death. Service in the RN in this period was avoided by any means possible. Very, very few captains were as successful as Pellew and no ship was a succesful as HMS Indefatigable.

@diabeticalien3584 5 лет назад

@@LarS1963 Yeah being on any ship up until the late 1880s would have been horrible

@patricklenigan1650 5 лет назад

well, you know, that was why Privateers were also so successful in war!

@Deevo037 3 года назад

Now that's a ship they could make a movie out of.

@badcarbon7624 5 лет назад

Speaking of a " cunning plan ". This old Yank has always thought they should have had a Mid- shipman Blackadder on the HMS Victory with Stephen Fry as Nelson series. One more thing. Have you considered doing something on the great Atlantic liners?

@jelkel25 5 лет назад

Yes, a lot of this was used by Patrick O'brian in his Aubrey and Maturin series, great stuff!

@SgtSoda 2 года назад

The “Hornblower” series is always a good rewatch

@timonsolus 5 лет назад

Can you imagine all the British sailors on board the British frigate that inadvertently blew up that Spanish treasure ship bursting into floods of tears and weeping unashamedly at the sight of the huge explosion? Oh, all that gold on its way to the bottom of the sea, and their fortunes with it! Their piteous cries of dismay: "Oh Lord, why have You forsaken us?" Just as well even a frigate had a fair few guns in a broadside, so it could not possibly be determined which gun captain had fired the fateful shot - otherwise, his life would not have been worth living after his 'lucky hit' sent all his shipmates' prize money down to Davy Jones' locker! :D

@taggartlawfirm 5 лет назад

Tim Smith well, when it turned out that the Spanish ships and cargo were not to be considered prizes, the grief abated somewhat.

@jobdylan5782 4 года назад

This comment feels psychopathic. Oddly semitic.

@timonsolus 4 года назад

Job Dylan : How so?

@johnfisher9692 5 лет назад

That was incredibly interesting and well done. The Indefatigable must have been a much sort after berth for many crewmen given her success in capturing ships. I can just imagine a sour faced Franch shipyard manager telling a new ships captain to not damage the ship before he turned it over to HMS Indefatigable. It's a question of pride in his workmanship to hand over a ship worth keeping.

@ForceSmart 5 лет назад

Lovely video! The Indy has an amazing story. Thanks for the detailed insight into the prize money system too. I also want to note that anybody who has not seen both the Hornblower and the Sharpe TV series should fix this major error ASAP!

@davidmurphy8190 2 года назад

Will try. Read all of the Hornblower books when in grade school.

@Gingerbreadley 5 лет назад

Love the age of sail stuff. It’s so interesting to see how much things changed from back then.

@dianeswift 5 лет назад

Fascinating description of payouts of prize money.

@tonyjames5444 5 лет назад

Very informative, the general consensus at the time was that French ships were actually better designed and as such greatly valued by the RN, (although that's debatable). The story of the captured French ship Duguay Trouin, renamed HMS Implacable, is interesting and if things had worked out differently she could be today sat in the drydock near to HMS Victory: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Implacable_(1805) Aware costs to preserve her would have been huge but it would have been great to have a 74 gun ship, (and veteran of Trafalgar albeit on the French side), alongside Nelsons flagship.

@Nebris Год назад

French ships designs tended to be better that British ones and the RN stole them shamelessly. But British ships tended to be of a better quality of construction, in both materials and technique.

@garytredwell5649 5 лет назад

Fascinating story over Sunday morning coffee. Thank you!

@spookyshadowhawk6776 5 лет назад

Fish People? I suppose the French would qualify as snail people in this case, desperately clinging to the walls that had become floors after their ship turned on its side. The Indefatigable crew were richly experienced by the end of their tour, having persuaded many French ship's to join the Royal Navy by every means possible. While worn out before it's time, the Indefatigable definitely paid for it's construction many, many times over! Great Story, as always!

@MarcStjames-rq1dm 3 года назад

I highly recommend the Hornblower series of books..... for anybody who enjoys Drachinifel's stuff....they would make a best gift ever.... well, especially if they be younger.

@captundies1107 5 лет назад

Please do more videos about sailing ships. This was a great video!!

@Jon.A.Scholt 5 лет назад

4,000 cannon balls fired! Think, if those were all from 24s that would be 96,000 lbs or 48 TONS of cannon balls. That is insane!

@lexington476 5 лет назад

I like when you do ships from the Age of Sail.

@jacktattis Год назад

The paintings of these ships are magnificent

@Trek001 5 лет назад

You should have used the clip where he takes the Indie to within one mile of a shore and BROADSIDES the beach!

@CalvinStewart 5 лет назад

Great channel I always look forward to your new shows thanks and keep up the great work I really appreciate your work :).

@jefffradsham2297 5 лет назад

Yes cal, it is good stuff, but it looks like Lord Drach is slacking. I can't find any videos that I have not already watched.

@markdavis2475 5 лет назад

Thanks for the info about prize money. As per other comments it’s worth reading O’Brien,s books. I think it was also common for Captains to get into debt with their prize agents prior to capturing a ship!

@chrisnorman1183 5 лет назад

Loved that Horn Blower scene added in :D Topped it off!

@ferhomme96 5 лет назад

Love to see a video about the Temeraire. Saved Nelsons arse by all accounts.

@adventussaxonum448 5 лет назад

Not really. He died anyway and the battle was good as won. Might, stress might, have saved the Victory. (Helped keep a clean sheet, in football terms). If the French had boarded, they would still have had to face the sweepings of the Pompey gutters. Not a fight I'd fancy!

@geraldtonjjeeper 5 лет назад

Fantastic detail and pictures. Your descriptions of the battles during the years she spent in service was wonderful!Thank you! Excellent!

@dougm5341 Год назад

Loved the Hornblower series. Very entertaining.

@roykliffen9674 5 лет назад

Good ole' Indy

@panchoamd 5 лет назад

The Action of 5 October 1804 was very significant for the history of my country, Argentina, because aboard Mercedes was travelling the family of Carlos Maria de Alvear, one of the early leaders of our Independence, while he and his father where aboard Fama and where imprisoned in England for a while. Sorry for my english!! More info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_of_5_October_1804 and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Mar%C3%ADa_de_Alvear

@mikesummers-smith4091 4 года назад

I often put my feet up of an evening and idly skim old copies of the London Gazette.

@99IronDuke 5 лет назад

Really good video. Most interesting. Anyone who is interested in the Nelson era would like the Hornblower books and TV series and also the excellent Patrick O'Brian historical novels and the film Master and Commander (2003) based on them.

@CommanderJonny 5 лет назад

I'd suggest the Nathaniel Drinkwater series of novels as well.

@vollelektrolysierer5773 5 лет назад

Hornblower is the most famous, but not the best and certainly not the largest, contentwise. Alexander Kent/Douglas Reeman's Bolitho on the other hand spans a larger time frame with way more novels.

@w8stral 5 лет назад

Add in the Honor Harrington books by David Weber.

@CommanderJonny 5 лет назад

@@w8stral The Honor Harrington series is Sci-Fi, not Historical Fiction. I don't exactly see the connection here...

@w8stral 5 лет назад

So, you did a tiny google.... and have not read them. They are naval books. Styled directly upon the age of sail and Her majesties service except in space. The names of the ships are even pulled directly from the RN and many of the battles in the books are near 100% replica of real battles if you know your naval history. Honor Harrington IS Horatio Hornblower .... in space. @@CommanderJonny

@Alex-cw3rz 3 года назад

6:50 just a quick correction it was not about "getting away", it was so you could out maneuver your opponent.

@Jon.A.Scholt 5 лет назад

@5:01 Poor midshipman tried to throw his hat and catch it but missed....

@panzermacher 4 года назад

It's a crime against humanity that A & E's Hornblower series was discontinued.

@javier1zq 5 лет назад

I'd love to see more first rate ships of the line, like Nuestra Señora de la Santisima Trinidad, or L'Ocean. Naval Action could provide some footage also.

@paulwillson8887 5 лет назад

I highly recommend CS Forsters Hornblower series, the first couple are set in HMS Indefatigable. Also a good series read is Dudley Pope' Ramage series

@tomriley5790 5 лет назад

Thanks for this didn't realise the Pellew and Indefatigable were real!

@craigtupper103 5 лет назад

Beyond excited to see the flower class in the list!

@albundy9597 5 лет назад

what an adventurous life you must live, your honeymoon was a failure I take it.

@waynecooper6431 5 лет назад

Hi Love your guide series, but have to say you are slightly out re your talk on prize money. The prize money as you described for the ships and cargoes shared out by eigths is correct, however the money paid for the prisoners was called either head money or gun and head money. This was paid at the rate of a pound per prisoner and unlike prize money was shared equally between the crew.

@simonpotter7534 5 лет назад

That is not Sir Edward Pellew, its Woolfy from Citizen Smith....Power to the people!

@fourthdrawerdown6297 5 лет назад

Simon Potter Freedom for Tooting!

@jakeyaboi6824 5 лет назад

Please cover some modern cruisers destroyers and frigates. From all different nations. Their systems, sensors, crew structure, aviation etc.

@mehusla 5 лет назад

Remarkable courage and achievements. Staggering sums of money. Thanks for sharing.

@henningstermark9241 5 лет назад

The first Ship of the Line made into a frigate was the French 74 gun Brave (1781) rebuild into a Razée in January 1794 - 8 month before the Indefatigable!

@williameddlewis4625 5 лет назад

Thank you for the video i enjoyed it very much. I know you have a schedule and are very busy, but if you're planing to do a video on the HMS Victory at any time could you include the battle damage she sustained at the battle of Trafalgar? How in the hell a ship can sail to a port for repairs with nothing but three pocket hankies for sails? Again thank you for the grate video!

@LionofCaliban 5 лет назад

And it makes some battles really hard to follow, when people read formations. Is that a French ship in French service? When in doubt, assume it's the Royal Navy.

@gazlink1 5 лет назад

You've done it again Hornblower!

@gazlink1 5 лет назад

Saved the honour of His Majesties navy, and oh, what's that, a lovely French maiden needs to be saved and wants to join us on the way home, well if you must Hornblower!

@dobypilgrim6160 5 лет назад

Defatigable was indefatigtible. Thanks for this video!!!

@zero_one4056 5 лет назад

British heavy frigates were the true first battlecruisers.

@bigblue6917 5 лет назад

I did come across some information that prize money can still be paid out by the navy but the number of people who would receive a payment has expanded to include a large number of the naval personnel.

@LHRStormKeeper 5 лет назад

I can't be the only one that, after having watched the clip starting at 4:13, wonders what would have happened if Mr. Fantastic were a sailor in the Royal Navy at the turn of the 19th century. Imagine what sort of work he could do as part of a boarding party!

@richardw2566 5 лет назад

Another excellent and informative video. Thank you for your efforts, sir.

@jacktattis143 5 лет назад

82 ships and there has been boasting of a certain Navy whose best was 2 frigates, 2 schooners and 10 Merchant

@thegaminggecko1255 5 лет назад

It's the Indie!

@rollosnook 5 лет назад

"God save the King!"

@matthewmitchell5617 5 лет назад

with a pay out like that, I would have harbored rebellious feelings and would have probably became a pirate. Damn the Admiralty!

@wildcolonialman 2 года назад

Fabulous fabulous, fabulous narration.

@Scarheart76 5 лет назад

It's a shame ships like this one aren't preserved considering how well they served their nation's navy.

@99IronDuke 5 лет назад

In Britain, in addition to HMS Victory of course, there are also the frigates HMS Trincomalee in Hartlepool England and HMS Unicorn in Dundee Scotland of this era. Both well worth a visit.

@rollosnook 5 лет назад

I'm not sure if it is Trincomalee or Unicorn, but one of them is the oldest floating sailing ship in the world. The big problem with these ships is hull-sagging and I think this is happening to Victory.

@watcherzero5256 5 лет назад

Triggers Broom, if you have to replace all the planks and all the beams on a ship over the years, is it still the original preserved?

@bufferbuffer7320 5 лет назад

@@watcherzero5256 I mean, you don't really have a choice other than replacing the rotten wood over time. But I would love to see (and sail) a replica of HMS Indefatigable. Wouldn't be the first one of it's kind (L'Hermione, Götheborg, Shtandart).

@alganhar1 5 лет назад

@@bufferbuffer7320 Problem is getting the wood. The ships you mentioned were all smaller, lighter designs than Razees to begin with, even the Gotheborg would have been smaller, with smaller timber frames than the later 64's. The L'Hermione and Shtandart were both purpose designed frigates both of which carried a much lighter main battery than Razee such as Indefagitable, or one of the purpose built USN Heavy frigates such as Constitution, both of which carried long 24's, in contrast to L'Hermiones 12 pounders. This is important, because the much larger guns required a much heavier hull in order to withstand the tremendous stresses of those big guns firing, especially in a broadside. The problem lies in supplying these timbers for a modern replica. I am not talking the external planking here, but the timbers that actually make up the frame of the ship. As much as possible they literally selected trees that had grown (or been trained to grow) in directions that suited the shapes of the timbers they were to become. Obviously something like a 64 would have required MUCH sturdier timbers than a purpose designed 6th Rate (such as L'Hermione), naturally this requires larger, more mature trees.... Such trees are rarer these days, and MUCH more expensive than they would have been in the 18th Century to procur, not only that but many of the skills required to build such a vessel have been more or less forgotten. Personally I think if us British were to replicate one of these wonderful ships we would be better off trying to do what the French did with L'Hermione, to replicate a smaller 5th or a 6th Rate, rather than something that requires the massive timbers of a Razee or Constitution type Heavy Frigate.

@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084 2 года назад

A Great Story of a Great Warship!!!

@christopherwatton1257 5 лет назад

Could you please do a video about the little brig sloop Speedy and Cochrane?

@mikeholton9876 5 лет назад

good of you to feature the Hornblower series, they are quite entertaining in their own right.

@theamericangamer2696 Год назад

Love your videos. Would love to see a video on HMS Endymion and her career. Thanks.

@vipertwenty249 5 лет назад

Great to see this video - one could be forgiven for thinking that one of Britain's greatest naval captains and his ship had been well and truly forgotten so well done you! One of the direct decendants of Sir Edward Pellew is a customer of mine, and had been only marginally aware of the naval connection in his family let alone his famous ancestor until I had the opportunity to alert him to it. Sir Edward (Lord Falmouth) was a contemporary of Nelson and of similar ability, but was posted to the India theatre at the time of Trafalgar so faded unfairly into obscurity.

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

Yes, the good times are gone, and the empire wasted by the alc-master Churchill himself. Against Villeneuve or Bruys every british midshipman would have been able to lead the brits into battle. At this time actors acted as french sea-officers.

@vipertwenty249 5 лет назад

@@hajoos.8360 True indeed! To be strictly both fair and practical however, there was no way Britain could hang on to its empire after the second world war, and the writing was very much indeed on the wall after the first world war. Churchill's biggest fault - and he did have many as he himself seems to have been aware - was his unwillingness to see Stalin as the true evil he really was. Had he been able to face up to that before or during the war things might have been very different. Whether for the better or not is open to speculation, but at least the Poles would've had a better chance.

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

@@vipertwenty249 Churchill was one of those politicians in the 19th century who promoted "Made in Germany", Lloyd George was not even better in his statement, a war could be cheaper than to compete in the markets. I am not a friend of the Nazis, but how do they came to power? Both wars Britain inflicted, destroyed or weakened Europe and it's prime position on the planet in favour of the US. Now Europe, including Britain, is depraved to a poor vasall status. So European naval forces are facing desaster. Miserable British carriers, miserable destroyers/frigates and good german submarines nearly all out of action. And those Scandis could not even steer a frigate without GPS. And for your info, the new Poland (1919) attacked every neighbor-state and developed into a military-dictatorship in 1926. The german invasion of Poland caused the declaration of war against Germany by France and Britain, but not against the invading Sovietunion. So moral standards were obsolet.

@vipertwenty249 5 лет назад

@@hajoos.8360 I think I get where you're coming from, but English isn't your first language? Moral standards always gave way to political expediency in all countries, and still does really. Humans are like that. High tech weaponry such as ships and submarines are incredibly expensive items so if a country finds itself without any operational ones sometimes then that is no surprise. The US Navy holds the Scandinavian submarines in very high regard - they even hired one Swedish sub for 2 years complete with crew!

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

@@vipertwenty249 I beg pardon for my miserable english. Hope, you will understand me.

@chrislong3938 5 месяцев назад

Indefatigable... every time I hear or read that word, Monty Python and the Holy Grail pops into my head!

@giannisg3387 5 лет назад

Hey Drachinifel , could you please do a video about the submarine Katsonis? There is some info about it in the English page of Wikipedia, however is it only a glimpse compared to the Greek one. Sadly, I cannot help you by translating the info because I have a pretty hectic schedule, so if you decide to go ahead you will have to use Google translate. The sub went down fighting to the very end, and I believe it deserves a bit of recognition.

@argyrisperiferakis6404 5 лет назад

I may be able to help in translation depending upon my schedule

@jebise1126 5 лет назад

oh wait so hornblower actually had some real existing people and ships there. nice

@stephenbritton9297 5 лет назад

The battle of the Spanish treasure fleet was featured in one of Patrick O'brien's Jack Aubrey books where he was a relief captain on the LIVELY. Also, when you said "nearby" for if a ship shared in prize money, it was any ship within sight - even if hull down. Finally, could you imagine how much money even the lower ranks shared after a major fleet success like Trafalgar???

@iroscoe 5 лет назад

Trafalgar wasn't quite the fortune maker it might have been , some of the prizes were lost in the subsequent storm others were reduced in value by the large amount of damaged they had sustained in the fighting .

@merafirewing6591 Год назад

@@iroscoe I wonder how much would Nuestra Señora de la Santísima Trinidad would be worth in prize money.

@JohnSmith-nz4bn 4 года назад

Drachinifel: The French like to aim at rigging so they can run. Me: Sounds about right. That French flight or flight instinct 😂

@swiftmatic 9 месяцев назад

Robert Lindsay was awesome as Sir Edward Pellew. He totally projected the absolute paragon of naval virtue. Edit: @10:32 Successful captains could indeed grow quite wealthy from prize money. No wonder privateering was so popular.

@seancrowe3353 Год назад

What a capital stroke it was that Aubrey was acting captain of the Lively 😊

@ficklefingeroffate 5 лет назад

Great work.

@ToddDunning 3 года назад

Superb as always Drach

@stephen7740 5 лет назад

Can you imagine a certain president saying the the word,,,,,,, Indefatigable.

@pseudonym9599 5 лет назад

So glad to see a long video on some tall ships.

@garyduff8739 5 лет назад

The razee frigate sounds like what Reagan did in retrofitting Iowa class battleships that did so well in the middle east wars.

@Mtlmshr Год назад

No wonder that shop is talked about all the time!

@tokul76 5 лет назад

April 1st was five days ago. People asked for other HMS Indefatigable :)

@misterjag 5 лет назад

Between 1793 and 1812, the British impressed more than 15,000 U.S. sailors. American outrage with this practice was one of the causes of the War of 1812.

@buzjimbo2128 5 лет назад

And ....?

@adventussaxonum448 5 лет назад

Ah, but we stopped once Napoleon was defeated. Shame we had to fight a pointless war with the States, though.

@hughbarton5743 Год назад

Great job as always, sir.

@typograf62 5 лет назад

A suggestion, a small ship with a not very glorious carrer: The Danish armoured battery Rolf Krake. It was a 2 turret monitor type ship (4 guns), possibly the most advanced ship in Europe in 1864. It took part in the failed defence of Als against Prussian rowing boats. The captains orders were precisely vague so that he would get the blame and the situation was somewhat hopeless.

@farshnuke 2 месяца назад

I adore Hornblower great video.

@01ZombieMoses10 3 месяца назад

The razee concept is almost a proto-battlecruiser to the 2nd-rate's proto-battleship

@IMarcaI 5 лет назад

When you say "she immediately" in a slow way, I always follow it up with "ran aground" in my head. Think I might have been watching too many of your videos.

@belliott538 5 лет назад

Yes, Loved the Hornblower reference... Love and Own the Books, Series and Movie... Howdy from Texas!!!

@zaqpak9391 5 лет назад

Could you please talk in detail about every ship and landing craft that would have been used in Operation Sea Lion? That would be great!

@zaqpak9391 5 лет назад

@Doge Maverick Why not? Nobody has really done it, and it's an interesting topic and some interesting conversions of barges where made, so I think it would make a good video

@durhamdavesbg4948 5 лет назад

From what I have heard, there wasn't much the Germans had in terms of specialist equipment, more normal transport ships and barges.

@zaqpak9391 5 лет назад

@@durhamdavesbg4948 That's why I suggested a video, didn't suggest in any way that a barge would cross the English channel and win the war. I simply suggested a video that's all ;)