The Barbary States - The Final Yarrs 

I'm sure someone has already asked this, but in the intro, the gun shot near the end where something is seen to burst from the turret- any idea what is going on there? It seems like the canvas cover around the gun ruptured. If this is a FAQ, please forgive me.

Could Japan have made landings in India to bypass Burma during WW2?

Source of the thumbnail pic? Thanks a lot.

In the unlikely scenario that the United States and Canada were on opposite sides of World War One, what would Great Lakes naval buildup and fighting look like if it went on several years? Does Canada, even assuming British backing, stand any chance?

Do you think Popov's rounded ships could have had promise if that line of thinking had been more thoroughly explored? The Livadia's problems seem to have come more from her flat bottom then her rounded design, and her stability and maneuverability didn't come at the cost of speed or efficiency. If the answer is no, are there any other unorthodox ship design ideas from the end of the nineteenth century that could have held promise, but never took off?

Problem is the bullies historically had plenty of boot to kick yo ass. Stand them down at your own Risk.

If you want peace, prepare for war.

@@mitchellhawkes22 And historically paying them off only ironed their boot so they could kick yo ass harder. Many an Empire was brought to the brink by subsidizing their neighbors' militarization.

Seems like people did just fine paying them off though, by and large, and maybe they were right to shy from outright invading and attempting to build friendly new nations.

@@tieck4408 What kind of utterly cuckolded way of thinking is this? "Yes, it's just fine we're paying these people who are attacking us and taking our people into slavery just so they don't attack us for a little bit - you know, until they do it again and demand more tribute". Tribute is what weak states pay to strong states, not the other way around. Those that attack you deserve your ire, those that _take your people into bondage_ deserve nothing less than complete eradication. Everything beyond that is a mercy you afford them out of the benevolence of your heart.

From the halls of montezuma to the shores of Tripoli. And that’s all I remember

"We Fight Our Countries Battles on the land, in air and sea."

They fight for Crayons

@Christopher Ridle, Quite picky, about details. One example, I left out some "colorful loud language" Two Highly motivated Drill Instructors at the same time explaining that recruit's lack of attention to certain details perhaps was a failing on their part that would be squared away right now, if it took until recruits enlistment was up.

Who cares lol

So now everyone knows USA first war abroad wasn't in Central America, or south America. The old new reliable, the Middle East.. Over 200 years ago.

@@declanfitzpatrick6747 technically speaking North Africa is not in the Middle East, or even particularly close

How can the grips be made of ivory? Certainly they switched to a replacement material.

@@gobblox38 as he stated, it's the pattern for the current Marine officer's sword. It's no longer ivory, just as the blade is no longer fighting sharp. The original Mameluke sword belonged to the Pasha of Tripoli, and was presented to Presley O'Bannon when the Marines deposed the Pasha's brother, who had wrongfully usurped the throne. So says the legend, anyway. Semper Fidelis.

When you geek over a dead painters colour choices of a single painting they did , almost certainly without references......He was a marine, and wounded... (sucker and loser for sir Mr still our president),

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USS Enterprise also took part of the war of 1812 and engaged against the HMS Boxer and captured her. Let's make sure history never forgets the name... Enterprise! - Jean-Luc Picard

:-) I'm a USS Enterprise vet. Served on her almost 5 years. Never involved in any wars though, but my ship was involved in the Vietnam war before my time. I'm happy a new one will be built. It's got quite the legacy.

@@jimmym3352 I very recently saw the cvn-65. So sadly to see it sitting there.

@Israel Hands yeah we, Americans, stole the HMS Enterprize from the Brits in revolutionary war. Well Benedict Arnold and his soldiers did and they were Americans so it still fits, and we Americans made Enterprise not only a legend but a name of honor for all. Btw there’s no such thing as American words. We speak English here, well some or most of us do. Regardless it matters not where a word originated.

Putting down such a wide-spread issue is difficult on the tactical level, a painful slog strategicaly and a logistical nightmare. There was a lot of coastline, many fortified harbours and hiding places and lots of Hinterland to cut and run to if the shit hit the fan. Putting the Barbary Pirates down for good would have required a complete subjugation of the entire nort african coast and effectively indefinete occupation. Not fun. Playing a prolonged game of whack-a-mole was often the best they could do given the strategic situation.

Yes and it is still happening in one way or another. Pan Am #103 comes to mind.

@@Bird_Dog00 Yeah, but there's playing whack-a-mole and then there's building them more warships by way of tribute than you're currently building for your own navy.

@@Ensign_Cthulhu That's the US Govt. Your original Comment was about european powers.

@@Bird_Dog00 Were they still under the nominal protection of the Ottoman Empire? There's always the risk that this protection would be more than nominal if they pushed too far.

Just because your a pirate does not mean you can't look good.

I thought the Barbery Pirates would take ships and give the crews new haircuts.

excellently funny"

I'm sure they've been on the cover of Vogue circa 1690 🤣

@@colbypupgaming1962 Barbering is a cutthroat business

I'm wondering if "Berber" comes from the Greek "Barbarian", meaning "somebody who says bar bar", aka literally anyone who wasn't Greek (Or Roman, once Rome had invaded Greece).

@@dylantowers9367 Yeah I think it is. What is also a fun fact in amazigh the language of the berbers europeans are called Arome wich i know comes from Rome.

@@zekbaker4727 because it's not about slavery at all

You're treading on the delicate feelings of The Religion of Peace. The alleged history, of taking Slaves from both Europe and Sub Saharan Africa, is surely just a conspiracy theory.

Muslim, there I said it for you! To Hell with the modern fascists, their cancel culture and their assorted despots in DC and in gewgle.

Karma for vikings lmao

Facts

You noticed that too

“And then a minute passed…..”

Wow American living here in Morocco that's so amazing

@@HTProducer Unfortunately the end has come after 4 years. I cannot meet the requirements for a Resident card and have booked a flight to JFK on October 4. I am curious, where do you live?

@@warren2052 How don't you could meet the requirements for Residency ? I thought it was easy for Western citizen to come and stay here. I live in Rabat in the old downtown I hope you enjoyed these 4 years

@@HTProducer I must have my retirement funds (US Social Security) deposited into a Moroccan account, and then wait three months for the records. A bit of a Catch-22, I must stay here illegally for 3 months waiting for the bank records to accrue. My financial advisor back home and a CPA - Certified Public Accountant, my best friend, advises against it. Maroc has limitations on Dh to $ reconversions, and I must not get caught up on that. Four years in Maroc and I too no better. Meanwhile, I appreciate your skill in writing English. I cannot do the same for Arabic, French, Spanish nor Berber…

Barbary Pirates: Please give us chwia (few) tiknoulougia

I suspected that was where the word Berber was derived from. IIRC, "bar bar" was originally Greek for "literally anyone who wasn't born Greek". It later expanded to "literally anyone who isn't Greek or Roman" only after Rome conquered Greece. The RU-vidr Metatron covers a lot of Roman stuff and has a video on the subject. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iFddizRJRE0.html

Derka derka

It means bearded and was originally used to describe the Germanic tribes. The Berbers were originally Germanic and later became a mixed Islamic race. The Moors, vandals, and Normans were also originally Germanic tribes that invaded north Africa..

@abdennour O Numidians were the mixed race Berbers.They were originally Germanic or Scythian dependig on how far you want to go back..

Wrong, barbare from berbère

@Andreas Glad How you know you're on the naval channel; a zero tolerance policy for Piracy.

It’s ok you guys had Carthage

Argus and Enterprise are both well traveled names

In many towns in Majorca still celebrate moor and Christian festivities celebrating local victories on Barbary pirates.

We sense a prequel in the offing

Thanks for that. I had heard about this but I did not know any details.

@@bigblue6917 no problem, part of a corpsman FMF pin is to learn every meaning of the marine corps, so I had to learn every part of the their hymn and its historical meaning. The marine corps landing and March on Mexico city isn't well taught and hard to find but Santa Anna tried to fight them off at the shores and his retreat back to the capital, which he fortified the halls of the capitol building, and it turned to very bloody hand to hand fighting. The landing at tripoli, I think was the US marines with support from the Swedish navy, the Dutch navy, and I think it was also a few gun boats from the russian navy

@@Robert53area Oorah!

Libya 1811-2011

NCO's lead the way!

Silly Person ! It was funny because the U.S. declared independence from Britain, yet somebody thought it was reasonable to ask the U.K to keep protecting their ships. It's like a kid saying "F you mom & dad - I'm an Adult now ! By the way, could you take care of that Bully for me ?"

Having the black heart of a pirate was a usually requirement for joining destroyer. Which is what made them so good. And not just the Royal Navy. The US navies Taffy 3 had their share as the Japanese found out.

The price of not uniting. Same as the Ottoman Empire failed to unite into a single cohesive "united states" speaking with a single voice, neither did Europe, so the USA could pick them apart piecemeal... First to "go" was Spain. First the USA came for Spain, but the rest of Europe was like "I don't care, I'm not the Spanish Empire..."

*Lastly, they came for the British Empire, but there was nobody left to speak for them...* "What actually occurred was that Britain and other countries became hopelessly indebted to the United States once again (edit: during World War 2) ... *“We have profited by our past mistakes,” announced Roosevelt in a speech delivered on September 3, 1942. “This time we shall know how to make full use of victory.” This time the U.S. Government would conquer its allies in a more enlightened manner, by demanding economic concessions of a legal and political nature instead of futilely seeking repayment of its wartime loans (of World War 1).* The new postwar strategy sought and secured foreign markets for U.S. exports, and new fields for American investment capital in Europe’s raw materials producing colonial areas. Despite Roosevelt’s assurances to the contrary, Britain was compelled, under the Lend-Lease agreements and the terms of the first great U.S. postwar loan to Britain, to relinquish Empire Preference and to open all its markets to U.S. competition, at a time when Britain desperately needed these markets as a means by which to fund its sterling debt. Most important of all, Britain was forced to unblock its sterling and foreign-exchange balances built up by its colonies and other Sterling Area countries during the wartime years. Instead of the Allied Powers as a whole bearing the costs of these wartime credits to British Empire countries, they would be borne by Britain itself. Equally important, they would not be used as “blocked” balances that could be used only to buy British or other Sterling Area exports, but would be freed to purchase exports from any nation. Under postwar conditions this meant that they would be used in large part to purchase U.S. exports." (page 115/116) "By relinquishing its right to block these balances, Britain gave up its option, while enabling the United States to make full use of its gold stock as the basis for postwar lending to purchased generalized (primarily U.S.) exports. *At a stroke, Britain’s economic power was broken. What Germany as foe had been unable to accomplish in two wars against Britain, the United States accomplished with ease as its ally."* (Page 117) "Furthermore, under the terms on which it joined the International Monetary Fund, Britain could not devalue the pound sterling so as to dissipate the foreign-exchange value of these balances. Its liability thus was maximized - and so was America’s gain from the pool of liquidity that these balances now represented." ("Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire." -- Michael Hudson, 2nd edition 2003) In case that seems a bit technical, here is the "nutshell version": Just like the bank takes your house if you don't pay up in the real world, the British Empire was run into the ground by the "best friends" USA, who stole the Empire's markets; hidden behind a whole lot of "technical jargon", thereby taking the means London had to pay its debts. A suitable micro level example would be the bank having an eye on your house, then making sure you get fired so you can't pay your debt. On the macro level the term is "debt trap diplomacy", and on the (privatized) propaganda level the means is "projection: accuse somebody else of being something which one is oneself", and that "being" has started waaaaaay earlier as a matter of own policy. A "debt trap" the Allies walked into after 1916, after they had spent all their own money, and squeezed as much out of their colonies as they could get away with, but refused to come to terms at the negotiating table: another factor usually associated with the Central Powers. ----------------------------------- "At the end of the war [WW2], Britain, physically devastated and financially bankrupt, lacked factories to produce goods for rebuilding, the materials to rebuild the factories or purchase the machines to fill them, or with the money to pay for any of it. Britain’s situation was so dire, the government sent the economist John Maynard Keynes with a delegation to the US to beg for financial assistance, claiming that Britain was facing a "financial Dunkirk”. The Americans were willing to do so, on one condition: They would supply Britain with the financing, goods and materials to rebuild itself, but dictated that Britain must first eliminate those Sterling Balances by repudiating all its debts to its colonies. The alternative was to receive neither assistance nor credit from the US. *Britain, impoverished and in debt, with no natural resources and no credit or ability to pay, had little choice but to capitulate. And of course with all receivables cancelled and since the US could produce today, those colonial nations had no further reason for refusing manufactured goods from the US. The strategy was successful. By the time Britain rebuilt itself, the US had more or less captured all of Britain’s former colonial markets, and for some time after the war’s end the US was manufacturing more than 50% of everything produced in the world. And that was the end of the British Empire, and the beginning of the last stage of America’s rise."* [globalresearch(dot)ca/save-queen/5693500] §§§footnote If you wish to know more about exactly how the British Empire was "being dismantled," please respond...

ye Inshallah. But Algeria is kinda quiet today

The French Foreign Legion was founded in 1831 in Algeria, after the fall of Algier and the end of most Barbary piracy. The Legion played a prominent role in subduing inland Algeria and parts of french second colonial empire (indochina, madagascar, morocco, ...), but they didn't fight the pirates.

It's a good story. The reason it's not taught is probably because the sense of mounting anger over having to deal with the pirates and enough never being enough. School children might come away with the impression that the people in those countries are assholes.

The capital was legally situated in a federal district located on the shores of the Potomac in 1790, and relocated from New York to a temporary seat of government in Philadelphia, by the Residence Act of 1790. That's Washington's first term. Congress held its first session in Washington, D.C. in 1800; the First Barbary War broke out in 1801. Moreover, "Washington" as a metonym for the government of the United States is perfectly acceptable, even anachronistically.

Little acknowledged fact...In 1865 100,000s of White Americans fought to free Black slaves. The freedom fighters were lead by President Lincoln, First Republican President. Of course that war had some significant naval engagements, some very well covered on this channel. The 1800s were a time of ending slavery in the Western world, hopefully for good. Of course the West still buys goods from red china, so the West is still complicit in some slavery. That needs to end.

@@dave8599 Wake up son, you are late for skool

And today Berbers?

​@CreedOfHeresy my goodness you have tied quite the Gordian knot for yourself with this wall of words. So let me cut through your specious arguments and justifications. Slavery was not inherited, it was a choice. The first African slaves brought here were not here when the Virginia colony was founded, they were brought here. Any other argument is simply starting from an intellectually dishonest standpoint. And by raping his slaves do you mean Jefferson treated them better? They were an economic commodity to him, and he treated him as well as a farmer today would treat a tractor or harvester. They were things. And how do you excuse Southern slavery economically when the northern states managed to do just fine and actually were economically more successful than South which didn't try to shed slavery but doubled down on it? Unavoidable necessity? Please. That is dangerously close to advocating for it. And please do not throw indentured servitude, it's not remotely the same thing, nor was it a major economic factor. Bottom line, Jefferson had many hypocrisies throughout his life. Preaching the equality of man while raping black women he owned, and keeping generations of slaves cannot be excused under any lens. This was morally abhorrent already in the 16th century, and he knew it. Yet he continued to try to profit from it. So yes, his hypocrisy towards advocating a war and then fighting against the means to wage that war make perfect sense in the context of the whole man.

@CreedOfHeresy One can not inherit what one's parents don't have or do or be.

Why are you fighting their wars (Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen) then?

@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 The spice must flow.

@@wardkerr2456 Karma will fight back...

@@Endgame707 you mean from the amusement Park?

Quite rightly.

I think it was valid. RN was at war and it paid crew less than what the USN sailors were paid (RN sailors pay was to be propped with prize bounties which encouraged daring and aggression).

@@ElGrandoCaymano Quite right and it worked well, RN sailors were well fed and looked after too.

The Only connexion is that they are hot blood in their charge

Who says Decatur won't have his own video at some point? :D

Agree. Everyone from Philly is fed the whole story at a young and impressionable age, Ask me how I know.

@@Drachinifel I would really like to see your recounting of this story. It is pretty epic.

@@Glo00n Hi five from a former resident of Sydney.

The destruction of the Philadelphia and the marines at derna were both amazing stories to me when I was a teenager. The fledgling new USA with all it's political bickering and lack of money actually built up naval forces to try to do something about the pirates across the Atlantic, at a time when the European powers seemed content to pay tribute, hard to believe... between that and the quasi-war the us finally realized it had to maintain some sort of navy, like it or not. I vaguely remember reading years ago that one of the rulers told the Americans this is our way of doing things and the Koran justifies it because you are unbelievers lol

Somewhat ironic as many of the Icelanders ancestors were Vikings and not above piracy.

I remember reading something when I was a teenager and seeing a reference to Iceland being raided by barbary pirates, I was shocked but other sources online also mentioned it. I think that was back in their heyday or golden age around 16th and 17th centuries, I think in later times as in this video they weren't going up there anymore but were still very problematic around Mediterranean

That would be Murat Rais, spelling optional. Actually a Dutchman who conveniently converted to Islam. Also occupied the island of Lundy in the Bristol Channel. Supposedly an ancestor of Humphrey Bogart and Jacky Kennedy.

@@bigblue6917 Nobody is above piracy.

@@brianensign7638 to paraphrase one man's privateer is another man's pirate

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Also, get bitch-slapped with a fly whisk, proceed to invade and occupy a country for over a century.

@Andreas Glad It's the same thing if your terms are "fkn die already"

Starboard batteries, in ripples, from the fore, FIRE AS SHE BEARS! Or, in the words of a fictional warship captain 30'000years later: *"FIRE THE URSUS CLAWS"*

Royal Navy is paid by the people. Call it the People's Navy?

And today is called a business model for Amazon and Uber.

@@delurkor spot on

Nah, not likely but attrition rate must have been high because of sanitary issues.

@@808bigisland No , it was a deliberate policy , row them to death and get some more , whole regions in the Mediterranean coast were depopulated , slaving raids was the most profitable source of income for the Barbary coast pirates ,some were ransomed some were sold some were worked to death

That was a commmon practice that was used by almost all the mediteranian countries. Since the day the galley was invented. Most rowers did not do so voluntary its a shit job lol.

Everyone was at it at the time, the Turks and Europeans both hated each other as slavers. The abolition of Slavery by Britain was globally revolutionary.

Seldom spoken about? More like never spoken or talked about, mainly because we live in a time that everything is, somehow, America’s fault. Slavery? America started that. Sadly a lot of teachers don’t know this and are busy spinning a b.s. narrative. Personally history should be taught completely, not fitting one narrative or the other. Hell all subjects should taught that way. Sorry fir the mini rant.

@@tarn1135 slavery is the oldest business of man, predating metal. America has done many things wrong, but I don't think they are to blame for this one. And if you mean the Atlantic slave trade, it would probably be the Spanish, though everyone else immediately followed suit.

@@josephlongbone4255 You're 100% correct, however in many American schools (because of politics) slavery is taught as a western invention & the worst perpetrator is the USA. It's bull, but it is what is taught.

@@josephlongbone4255 Its kinda amazing how bad your comment is and that 3 people were ignorant enough to like it. Most of the Europe abolished slavery few centuries before the British made the decision to do it. So first part about "everyone was at it at the time" is a false statement as majority of Europe were not at it for a very long time. My country in the midle of Europe abolished it over a century before America was disovered and betwen that and the period you are talking here about we got plenty of wars with Turks... So the second part is just some attempt by you to project your almost complete ignorance of geography onto Turks. The third part is a false statement because British empire was not the centre of the world and the whole slavery bussines was more and more economically unjustified for British so even for them it was not a revolution but simply an evolution and industrial revolution was the main reson for it. You need to hire educated people to operate complex machines, you would need to provide food, home and cloths but also an education and then to protect that investment you would need to provide medication/treatment to your slave... so hiring a normal citizen was simply cheaper!

HD should be available soon :)

Jefferson was Governor of Virginia when the British invaded during the Revolutionary War... He absolutely agreed that they had to build up a military force to protect themselves, but then continually found excuses NOT to raise money to support this military force.

Sounds like he'd do well today.

Remember this the next time someone tries to tell you the founding fathers were genius who made the best government ever.

@@blastermanr6359 I can imagine a few that I know who might stop blindly worshipping him if you told them he was in favor of defunding the military...

@@andrewgause6971 defend the the military. Don't you have to fund it first

Yes he crucified them

Wherever you have a reliable presence of merchant shipping, you will have pirates. It’s a fact of all maritime shipping, through all time

@@Deadxman616 good man, understood how to speak pirate.

The Roman Caesar did his share of piracy, Although it was mostly land based piracy. The riches of Rome funded by the looting of his victims. Nations and cities even had to pay tribute tax to Rome under the threat of the sword. Real nice guy that Caesar dude is, yeah?

Pompey organized several fleets and systematically swept the whole Mediterranean and destroyed over 1300 pirate vessels in the summer of 66. He ended up resettling a whole bunch of them because he recognized the problem of desperation.

ABSOLUTELY! LOL...All those times I heard someone say "Morrocco was the first nation to recognize the USA"... Well, I guess now I got a reply to them lol.

meanwhile, the British Empire: No taxation, no escort for navigation.

Doesn't the line go "Nice ship youse got der, to bad if sumin happened to it."

@@MarkVrem Morroco: "Nice nation you got there ... Now give me your money!"

@@CanalTremocos And then the US built a navy and marine corps, and proceeded to reject the Barbary States' tribute system and kick the Barbary States' ass.